First Light of LUCIFER estimated for spring of 2006

Anyone got info on Father Malachi Martin?

Alright, answered my own question -

Fr. Malachi Martin affirms:
Satanism practiced in the Vatican

[link to www.tldm.org]

Interesting.

I remember Fr. Martin on Art Bell´s old show, talking about "something" coming towards earth from elsewhere. I seem to recall that he was tying this event in with the 3rd secret of Fatima (but my memory is spotty at best these days).

I´m sure there´s a ton of info about Fr. Martin on the ´Net for those interested in pursuing this.

Catholics. Lucifer. Astronomy. Very curious indeed.

Inside the vatican there is evil presences since about 1980, even Jhon Paul II talked about these dark presence s in side the vatican that happeared suddenly a few decades ago.

I think the new pope when was cardianal talked once about these as a result of some exorcism praticed there.

There is a possibility that a restrict group of high priest in fact pratice a sort of cult in the covert of the church state.

But I higly doubt that this is applicable to the whole grearchy.

Very curious indeed John!

Have you read the Third Secret of Fatima Roman?

[link to www.tldm.org]

I forgot to type something!

I kind of like the idea that on one hill, there is a Vatican observatory and LUCIFER project... funny, ain´t it?

I knew the vatican owned a scope in AZ, but I certainly didn´t know it was called LUCIFER.

Alice, I believe this hole is rather deep. You first.

Yes Rev. I have read it long time ago.

I alway tought the high rank in the catholic church know much more than what they tell.

In fact i can tell you one thing i have 2 close parent that are both in the church one is a monsignore and the other is a priest, one of them wich i dont want to precise who o fthe two once told me that the raffiguration of the secret of fatima could be resumed in a painting where the earth is in the middle of two angels the angel in the left wash the earth with wather the angel of the righ spread fire on the earth.

I undesrtodd a few year later what this really mean.

won´t let them do anything TOO BAD

and don´t forget the MOST HIGH rules in the affairs of men.

In the Urantia Book it says time limited EVIL can have beneficial results if it is allowed to suicide itself OUT OF EXISTENCE

read the urantia book here

www.ruantia.org

check out the lucifer rebellion chapter

ummmm, L.U.C.I.F.E.R. is in arizona, USA not at the vatican?
or is the vatican observatory also on mt.graham?
they´ve been watching for oh...what´s that called...not silver mound the plant but the other name for it...ummmm...wormwood...for years.

I always seem to stumble into rabbit holes like this Strangiato!

I had no idea about a Lucfier/Vatican connection. I was simply searching for info on the old Lucifer Project theory - igniting Jupiter - when I ran across the site. When I saw it was at Mt. Graham, I remembered Father Malachi.....

Mt. Graham observatory is owned by the Vatican, salimandr.

My last post for today

This story circulated for quite a few years and there as been interview with padre Ernetti that now i cannot find in this moment, but well he alway affirmed to have found an ancient manuscript in the vatican wich when traslated and realized in a concrete machine was capable to see events of the past and of the future, not a time machine but more like a screen where you could see these events.

For the story:

[link to translate.google.com]

Rev.StarGazer,
yep, knew that, which is why i also knew they had been watching for "wormwood" for years. didn´t know about the lucifer/software deal though.

i thought this interesting..."Satan, Lucifer in human form, entered into Rome in the year 1972. He cut off the rule, the role of the Holy Father, Pope Paul VI. Lucifer has controlled Rome and continues this control now.
"And I tell you now, My children, unless you pray and make My counsel known to all of the ruling fathers of the Eternal City of Rome, My Son´s Church, His House, will be forced into the catacombs. A great struggle lies ahead for mankind. The eventual outcome is for good of all, for this trial in My Son´s Church will be a true proving ground for all the faithful. Many latter-day saints shall rise out of the tribulation." - Our Lady of the Roses, September 7, 1978
[link to www.tldm.org]

wonder what they really do in the catacombs? anyone know?

Wow! Thanks Roman! I´d never heard that. This whole thing is very curious and intriguing.

Ciao!

the Roman,
a stargate machine?

our own kent steadman has hosted the Malachi Martin / Art Bell interview portion that mentions the Graham Observatory owned by the Vatican...fascinating listen:

[link to www.cyberspaceorbit.com]

"?...... In 1956 was indeed possible a return to the past?
According to one publication of 1987 of the same Ernetti Father from the title it: " Bible, Theology; Magic and Science "it was possible - without a shadow of doubt - to reconstruct the facts of the past and to move in the time! "

hmmmm. imagine being able to go back and forth in time and change things?...hmmmm

"that the far events have been able to leave "a trace" in the atmosphere "

why not? what is in the "static" that we hear on radio´s and tv´s? hmmmmm.

{The Roman, thank you for the website)

OK - now this is really creepy!

This is refering to the catacombs in Malta.

reports of humanoid creatures at the malta hypogeum?

This was taken from the Malta Independent recently.. I´ve heard the stories before, wondering if anyone else knew anything about this strange sounding place as it relates to missing people/strange creatures?

Local News

Web posted on April 11, 2004 at 9:30:00 AM CET
The mystery of the Hypogeum

Staff Reporter

The following excerpt, taken from an obscure webpage favoured by the searchers of the esoteric, speaks about the mysteries of the Hypogeum in Malta. We offer this as an interesting provocation, in the mode of the Von Daniken books, exhorting those who have any clues to add to points made, to write in reply.

The burial place known as the �Hypogeum of Hal Saflieni�, was so named after the street under which it was discovered in the early years of the last century. Hypogeum is the Latin name for an underground structure. (Many experts believe it was orginally built as a temple of worship and should be recognised as the eighth wonder of the ancient world.)

Near the floor of the last chamber, in the third and last (officially recognised) sub-level of these ancient catacombs, there are a small number of so-called �burial chambers�. These are only a few feet square and situated right next to the floor. In fact one must get on one�s knees to look into them. These �burial chambers� are just large enough for one to crawl through. It has been rumoured for years that one of these �burial chambers� does not end, but continues into deeper and unexplored caverns beyond.

This, according to certain sources, was the subterranean passage and chamber referred to in an article which appeared in the 1940 August issue of the National Geographic magazine. The article stated the following concerning several people who disappeared in these catacombs without a trace:

�Many subterranean passageways, including ancient catacombs, now are a part of the island�s fortifications and defence system. Supplies are kept in many tunnels; others are bomb shelters. Underneath Valletta, some of the underground areas served as homes for the poor. Prehistoric man built temples and chambers in these vaults. In a pit beside one sacrificial altar thousands of human skeletons were found. Years ago one could walk underground from one end of Malta to the other. The government closed the entrances to these tunnels after schoolchildren and their teachers became lost in the labyrinth while on a study tour and never returned.�

The story, however, goes much �deeper� than the National Geographic article indicates. Other sources say that about 30 children vanished in these catacombs on a study tour, and when the �Hypogeum� was first discovered nearly 30,000 human skeletons of men, women and children (victims of ancient sacrifice to the �underworld gods�, performed by an old Neolithic race) were discovered as well.

One article written by a -, at the time an employee of the British embassy and later secretary of the New York Saucer Information Bureau (better known as NYSIB), appeared in an old issue of Riley Crabb�s Borderland Science magazine, published by the Borderland Sciences Research Foundation (B.S.R.F.) and was later reprinted in full in Dr Allen�s book Enigma Fantastique.

Miss - claimed that she visited Malta and also the Hypogeum � once before the tragic disappearance of the children and shortly after. She described how on her first visit to the catacombs she finally convinced the guide to allow her to investigate one of the so-called �burial chambers� near the floor of the last chamber in the third sub-basement, the supposed �end� of the Hypogeum tour.

He seemed to know something she didn�t, but finally consented and told her that she could enter at �her own risk�. As she did so, candle in hand and her loosed sash used as a guide rope for her friends who followed behind, she crawled through the small passage and eventually emerged into a large cavern, where she found herself on a ledge overlooking a very deep, seemingly bottomless chasm.

Below, and on the other side of the chasm, was another ledge which appeared to lead to a doorway or tunnel in the far wall. We realise that what happened next might sound unbelievable to many who read this, but we ask them to draw their own conclusions as to its validity. Miss - swears that what follows really happened.

She claims that out of this lower tunnel on the far side of the chasm emerged, in single file, several very large creatures of humanoid form but completely covered with hair from head to foot. Noticing her, they raised their arms in her direction, palms out, at which point a violent "wind" began to blow through the cavern, snuffing out her candle. Then, some �thing� wet and slippery (apparently a creature of a different sort) brushed past her.

This all happened just as the person behind her was beginning to come out of the passage and into the cavern. They could not understand her panicked attempts to get back to the �Hypogeum� room, but they consented after she insisted. When they found themselves back in the Hypogeum chamber, the guide saw her expression and gave her a �knowing� look.

About a week afterwards, news about the disappearance of the children and their teacher(s) broke out. On her second visit she saw an entirely new guide who denied that the other guide had ever worked there, and surmised that this new guide was hiding something.

She learned from more cooperative sources however, that this was the tunnel which the children and their teacher(s) and possibly the old guide, had entered. She also learnt that after the last child had made it through, the walls of the small tunnel just �happened� to collapse or cave-in.

Although the official version stated that the walls caved-in on the students, search parties were never able to locate any trace of the teacher(s) or the children, although the rope they had used to fasten themselves to the lower Hypogeum chamber was found to have been cut clean by something sharp (not falling rock).

It was alleged that for weeks afterwards the wailing and screaming of children was heard underground in different parts of the island, but no-one could locate the sources of the cries.

As for the catacombs under Malta itself, there are some ancient accounts which say that deep caverns under the island continue underground beyond the shore, and, according to one source (that is, the ever elusive �Commander-X�), part of this labyrinth stretches hundreds of miles northwards and intersects with catacombs underneath Rome (the hill Vaticanus?) or at least did so in ancient times...

[link to www.abovetopsecret.com]

[link to web.genie.it]

I told you Rev that the hole was deep.

Father Malachi Martin and his followers, ie. Father Wingate, who frequent Art Bell´s show, were proclaiming false prophecy.

They claimed that Pope John Paul II was going to go through an attempted assassination, would flee to Canada and carry on from there.

The Vatican would be destroyed.

It didn´t happen. John Paul II is dead and buried.

So don´t put alot of weight into what they may say.

Bring him on!

I asked the trance psycic what the Third Prophecy of fatima was over 20 years ago.
Any who were slain or martyred in the name of the Lord will return one day to rule.And indeed some are evident at this point."

It alludes to reincarnation.

Because of reincarnation,the Church made all this fuss about it.Any harm done?

Not really a stargate Salimander but more than a screen on where past events and sound could be seen.

I have another document wich is traslated with google but it get truncated as he is very long so i will try to traslate it in a few pieces.

I post it since i think you would not find anything very detailed in your language.


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A machine in a position to observing the events of the past that appear in holographic shape in a small cubical space. This the discovery attributed to monaco the Benedictine Travelling Father Ernetti with to 12 scientists, between which Twin Enrico Firm and Father founding Augustin of the catholic University of Milan, in first years ´ 50 of the past century. A news that had entered in the oblivion if it were not for a book of Peter Krassa in March of 2000 and of Tawny Francois Father in the February of this year who ignite the reflectors on a vicissitude still wrapped in the mystery and that he would be involved also the Vatican.
A book review "on generis" of the book in French "the new mystery of the Tawny Vatican" of Francois Father, a theologian a lot known in France, published from the Albin Michel of Paris that ce has sended it end to the August.
Year 2002, towards the end of the month of July. I receive one telephone call from a friend of the Veneto. Knowing my interests of investigator, the friend communicates to me that news of a book bounces on newspapers veneti on Travelling Father Ernetti, written from Francois Father Tawny, published from the Albin Michel of Paris from the title stimulating it: "the Nouveau to mystere du Vatican".
Already, Ernetti Father.
Around to 1997, with other investigators, I was collecting information on endowed persons of the ability to vision at a distance and the temporal vision.
Naturally we were interested also to the equipment that could have rendered possible to observe and to record events of far places in the time and the space.
In this context, also I had documented on the searches many particular of Giuseppe Calligaris (13). The Prof. Calligaris had uncovered that, speeding up some precise points of the human body, could be lived again not only events of the personal past, but also historical events not directly riconducibili to the personal experiences.
Between the investigators, in this field of frontier, I had come to acquaintance of the searches of Travelling Father Ernetti. The monaco Benedictine, in the decades passed, had been dragged to the heavy honor of the ideatore report because thought and constructor, with other scientists, of an apparatus that would have been in a position to observing and recording events of the past. I made searches on he for being able to meet it.
I knew that, being monaco Benedictine, it lived near the Benedictine monastero of the island of Saint greater George to Venice, where was died in you open them of 1994.
Name from the Ministry of Education, it had been also teaching of Prepolifonia, only chair in Italy instituted in 1955, near the conservatory Benedict Marcello of Venice.
Being involved two friends I found the way to bring to me with they to Venice with the objective to speak with some its confratello in the monastero. It was, in fact, my intention to know if they existed, on the issue of the machine of the cronovisore time then called, documents or notes of which it had been able to take vision.
It accompanied us to the Monastero a journalist of the Gazzettino of Venice that Ernetti Father knew well and of it great esteem had one; but it did not know null on regarding the scientific searches of the Benedictine Father the machine of the time.
Joints to the Monastero, we were received, with much availability, from a confratello of Ernetti Father. The Benedictine Father lead to us in what he introduced to us like the study of the same Ernetti Father, where conversammo to along.
The study of Ernetti father was found near the door of entrance of the Convent, before thinks, because of its public activity and of exorcist then.
The Benedictine Father put delicately in doubt that this great uproar, around to Ernetti Father could, to the end, to have a truth bottom.
Com´ was in the program, asked for having greater information on the argument and to take scientific document vision it leaves you from Father Ernetti on its machine of the time, by now world-wide famous. The Father answered that he could not it are us of aid because near the monastero incartamenti did not exist on "hypothetical" the searches of Ernetti Father.
Of other part, you will understand that we were not the single ones to have crossed the threshold of the Convent attracted from these news.
I exposed how much I had read on an interview rilasciata from Ernetti Father to Sunday of the Courier, published 2 May 1972, of which I had procurato one copy.
The Father denied that appeared how much on that article could have a any concrete scientific reply. And therefore, aware of the "turn" to empty, we dismissed ourselves.
But what said this article published in 1972 in order to trigger the general interest, beyond that ours, nearly trent´ distance years.
It said, through not name Mr. X, than the machine invented from Ernetti father, with to a group of 12 physicists, it would have been in a position to photographing the face of Christ while it was still alive on the cross. Not only but, creating the maximum of journalistic boom, it introduced an image of Christ, in many points combaciante, was declared, with the Sacred Sindone. An image that Mr. X, and not Ernetti Father, declared coming from from this machine of the time that therefore existed and worked.
But com´ it was made this machine, like it worked and with which principles?
From the reading of the interview of Sunday of Courier n. 18 of 2 May 1972, than who it wants can be read integrally between present documents in appendix (1), I directly extract the following coming from answers from Ernetti Father:
- the machine is formed from one series of antennas in order to allow
sintonizzazione of the single voices and images.
- the procedure of operation of the machine is the same one used from the astronomers who, calculating the year-light, succeed to reconstruct the aspect of one star extinguished from migliaia of years.
- the operation system is based on the principle of physics, commonly accepted, according to which the sonorous and visual waves, once emitted, are not destroyed, but they are transformed and they remained eternal and omnipresent around to the earth; therefore they can be reconstructed, as every energy, in how much they are energy.
- the sound and the light are energies
- the light can be transformed in sound and viceversa.
- the sound, once emitted, begins a process of disintegration in other types of sonorous waves that the human ear is not in a position to hearing.
- From the disintegrated sound it can be returned to the sound original, therefore as from the disintegrated matter its original shape can be reconstructed, second the principles of the atomic theory.
All part from the study of the sounds through the analysis of the oscillografia electronic.
Every to be human it leaves behind of himself a double wake, sonorous and a visual one, they are only, as the digital prints are only them.
In the interview it is spoken also about the recording originates them, with the machine of the time, of an ancient teatrale work attributed to Fifth Ennio from the title it "the Thyeste" that was represented in the 169 a.c. near the tempio of Apollo, than found between the Hole and the Flaminio Circus. In this way the entire work came reconstructed. All these declarations are attributed, from Journalist Vincenzo Maddaloni, always to Mr. X and not to Ernetti Father who, also is sped up, does not answer.
Moreover, Ernetti Father, in the interview, considers its dangerous invention because he could put in danger the thought and action, word freedom. In fact, he declares that, with its machine, the thought can be picked up also, being the same thought an emission of energy. It would be therefore possible, and this comes considered most dangerous, to know is the thought of the house neighbor that the thought of an adversary.
Ernetti father, but, specifies that its studies do not have null to that seeing with the parapsicologia or the metapsichica and, much less, they can be equiparati with the studies that try to give an explanation to all that that it is coming from voice, sounds or figures from the afterlife.
In the first one understood it of the Tawny book of Father entitled "Papà Ernetti Father helps" tells me of the first experiences recorded in Twin the physical laboratory experiences them of Father, near the Catholic University of Milan, regarding the coming from voices from the so-called afterlife, but also of the construction of the cronovisore.
Father Twin had the habit of forehead to some difficulty to say "Ah! Papà helps me ". A day, september 1952 was the 17, after ennesima the esclamazione of Father twin, on the magnetofono recorded the voice of the Twin papà of Father who said: "But sure that you aid, I am always with you".
The first Twin instinct of Father was to extinguish the apparatus but Ernetti Father convinced it to relight it in order to verify how much had listened. Riudirono the Twin voice that Father recognized like that one of its father who added: "But, zuccone, you do not see that they are just I".
The term "Zuccone" was just the term used from the father of Binoculars while he was while still alive in addressing in some occasions to the son still child.
From this Twin episode Father, that he was also specialist in quantica physics, it began, with Ernetti Father, a series of searches in the field of applied physics in order to go to bottom of the possibilities that they were opened.
It is necessary also to keep in mind Twin that Father was, in those years, president of the papal scientific academy. Twin assignment that Father used in order to obtain, with to Ernetti Father, Devout a classified audience with XII which two pushed i to study the issue accurately.
Ernetti father, using its chair near the conservatory Benedict Marcello of Venice, begins to work on the plan of the temporal visore, taking advantage of the collaboration of one dozen of scientists between which Fermi and Werner Von Braun.
The visore comes, to the end, put to point and appears the images and the sounds of the event of the past to the center of a small space; they appear in.bianco and black and like ologrammi, three-dimensional.
All the experiences come filmate.
Through a regolator of waves, for tried, it was attempted to take contact to you with the specific waves of the personage on which the search was wanted to be developed.
Mussolini, Napoleone, Guide. The markets of Traiano to Rome,


(Probably this machine, if existing, came capacity on the place where it had to recall the event of the past, famous mine) Naturally, being priest, Travelling Father wants see again the passion, dead women and resurrezione of Jesus Christ. All she comes filmato. We are in years ´ 50. But we return to 1972. After some time, on the photography of the Christ, published from Sunday of the Courier, feracious controversy is born one. The controversy is primed in n. the 17 of the Newspaper of the Mysteries. In this number, in the rubrica of correspondence cured from Sergio Conti, letter of a reader of the GdM comes published one that accusation Ernetti Father of mistificazione. In this letter, that found in appendix (2), a reader of Rome writes one opened letter to Ernetti Father. This reader asserts that the face of Christ appeared on Sunday of the Courier, and resumed from the Newspaper of Mysteries nr. 16, is the same face of the ligneo Crocifisso, operates of the artist Cullot Valera, venerato in the Sanctuary of the Merciful Love of Collevalenza (Todi). Exactly a copy of the santino is attached in which the face of the crocefisso appears ligneo. To flank of the santino it is published, from the GdM, one copy schiarita invert and of the image of the Christ appeared on Sunday of Courier (1). Sergio Conti, in its comment, asserts, for sure, than the photo published from Sunday of the Courier it has been delivered from the same Ernetti Father to the curatore journalist of the article. While we know, from the documents that we have, than it is not true. Or Sergio Conti has invented the circumstance, or has received this information, not true, directly or indirectly from Vincenzo Maddaloni. Ernetti father does not take part in the controversy. Its estimative ones make to understand that it has been reduced to Hush from its advanced ones, on pressure from the ecclesiastical authorities Vaticans. On review Mysterious n. 25 of june 1974 an article of Teresa appears Pavian. E´ an article-interview from the title it "Cronovisore - the matter tells" in which it comes introduced the search of Don Luigi Borello in the field of neutrinica physics. (3) the article is proposed to render notes the searches of Don Luigi Borello. Searches, also those of Don Borello, tending to recover and to render the events of the past visible and audible. In the same article it comes communicated that the same Don Borello is preparing a book on turns out you of its searches. Always in 1974, on n. the 24 of the review Mysterious, Don Luigi Borello, than you it holds one rubrica in its quality of clergyman, sped up from a reader, it holds to us to rimarcare the difference between its search and that one of Father Ernetti (4). Ernetti father thinks of being able to fish the events around to the earth, Don Borello thinks instead that the events fix on the matter. Don Borello, in an other answer, published in the number with which it stops to hold the rubrica for review Mysterious (5), synthetizes the theoretical elements of its search in the field of the "cronovisione". It declares to base its theories on those of Renato Palmieri on physics of the antigravitational field. The theories of Palmieri stretch to frame all the phenomena of the physical universe in a precise "geometry of field". Possible what only if a "plenum exists alternative continuum" to the theory of the empty space; that it is, instead, a theory that joins many of the modern ones cosmologi. Personally I do not find contradiction between the Ernetti hypothesis and the Borello hypothesis: the turning out energy of the events space-thunderstorms of the past can be found accumulated in the matter, around which the same events have been carried out, or, the same turning out energy can be bundled up in motion around the earth. But this is other thing from single the every possibility of being living to be connected with the events that are carried out in the present, the past, the future. Various years pass. On the cronovisione, in spite of the hopes ignited with the article of 1972 on Sunday of the Courier, not are more news. Eight years after, on the Newspaper of Mysteries n. 114 of 1980 (6), same journalist Sergio Conti who cures the rubrica of correspondence from the title it "the readers us write", enter in hard controversy with a defender of Ernetti Father: Mr. Annunziato Gandi. The title it of the article is: "Ernetti Father and the cronovisione". Mr. Gandi is President of the Foundation George Gandi Museum of the Grammophon of the Disc and of the voices he celebrates, former Oratory Of the Fava that is found to Venice (from 1991 the museum has been closed), the Gandi writes a letter from the title it "Because the Travelling Father Ernetti has not participated to the Conference of Detention (October 1979). In this letter, Mr. Annunziato Gandi tries to explain the lacked presence Father Ernetti, the its most expensive friend, to the Conference of Detention. The Gandi asserts that the organization of the conference of Detention was more work its that of the Conte Mancini. The Gandi asserts that he was exactly he to convince Ernetti Father to participate to the conference of Detention. In this letter, one joins that Ernetti Father is the depositary of the secret ideas of Marconi, of Strict and of father Twin, of which he was collaborating student and. It was with Father Twin who took place itself, the 17 september 1952, the recording of voices from the afterlife (the voice of Twin the defunct papà of Father, famous mine). In its letter it adds famous following: P.S. - P. Pellegrino does not make some mystery of its secrets: it has given some public of the tests, last has been the conference of 17 last February in the classroom magna of the University of S. Tommaso to Rome where spoke on the topic "Nobody dies" present physicists and scientists (I cite also a friend of Mancini, the Prof. Marasca), in which it revealed the physics principle clearly is for the Voices of the afterlife is for the "cronovisione". (About the Prof. Giuseppe Marasca teaching of literature near the Amedeo college of Aosta di Jesi, Father Tawny in understood it "the Fifth Ennio speaks also returns on the scene"). Sergio Conti, in its answer, puts in argument that they have been introduced of the tests on the possibility to record images from the past, (the return in the mass medium would have been immediate). As Ernetti Father can - he asks Accounts - in order to participate to a conference of Parapsicologia, to expect that not there were parapsicologi, ("Says a po ´, Mr. Gandi, what would think if to a Biology conference the participation of the biologi were excluded") Conti makes also reference to the photo of the Christ appeared on Sunday of the Courier, testualmente what wrote here: "I personally do not know Ernetti Father, therefore I cannot allow some judgment me on its person, but on the facts I can express an opinion. Until this moment on this its "machine that photographer the past" we have only a great amount of "it says", but concrete tests nobody. The only fact officially disclosed from the press and guaranteed he like concrete test, turned out to be colossal a false one. I refer to the image of the face of Christ who Ernetti Father delivered to the journalists declaring to have obtained it with its "machine". Such photo to the examination did not turn out to be other that the reproduction, turned upside down, of a sacred image that comes sold to one hundred Liras in the Sanctuary of the Merciful Love of Collevalenza, neighbor to Todi (Perugia), reproducing a lignea sculpture of Cullot Valera, than it is found exactly in that Sanctuary (we gave some specifies and documented relation on n. the 17 of the G.d.M., inviting the Father to clear the thing to us. We did not have some signal from part of the interested one)." Sergio Conti declares that the same Ernetti Father would have delivered to the journalists the image of the Christ, proposing it like coming from from the cronovisore. This circumstance, to onor of the true one, does not correspond to truth. And the presence to the conference of the Professor Giuseppe Marasca: "... also being an alive supporter of Travelling Father Ernetti, it has declared more times to me that also it has not never seen the mysterious apparatus cronovisivo." Accounts still chase the Gandi, finding that beyond "it is said" never have not been produced concrete tests on the existence of the cronovisore: "It has seen it, Mr. Gandi? She has seen to work ". Of this controversy it makes Tawny mention also Father in its book, in the understood one them: "blow of theatre" and "who is truly Ernetti Father". As far as prof. the Giuseppe Marasca Father Tawny it reveals, always in understood it "the Fifth Ennio returns on the scene", that he was same he to ask Ernetti Father and its work group to find again the text of the Thyestes. Ernetti father made it to have the text and music. Still nine years pass. In 1989, Don Luigi public Borello its book, from years announced, the title it "the stones tells". In the introduction (7) Teresa Pavians attacks Ernetti Father hardly calling it "sedicente inventor". The same Don Borello to pag. 83 of the book defines the news of the construction of the machine of the time "a peculiar idea". (8) Naturally the answer of Ernetti Father is not made to attend. In fact, in a letter written in November 1990, four years before its dead women, the religious one ribadisce its far affirmations with inequivocabili terms. "the machine of the time is a truth sacrosanta", writes. to Don Borello, which it speaks about the letter, received from Ernetti Father, in an interview rilasciata to the weekly magazine "Who" (9). In that letter, Ernetti Father enters in the merit of the issue of the image of the Christ, for which it had been accused of mistificazione, writing: "our Christ was picked up in 1953, while that one of Collevalenza came after realized approximately six years; and when mother Hope saw in our photo, it made knows you of joy, because he corresponded to that one of its vision: these are made historical ". Also about this Tawny episode Father in the Understood one it speaks: "confratello a not just brother". But on the issue of the image of the Christ, than much denigration it had attracted towards Ernetti Father, Father Tawny has something to say in its book, just in understood it "the Ernetti Father is explained". In this understood it Francois Father it remembers like a day, being of passage to Venice, went to find Father Travelling and, without average terms, to cost to seem hard and discourteous, the churches what had to say on this hard press campaign that attributed to the spread of one false image to it of the Christ. Here of continuation the answer of Travelling Father: "Ernetti Father explains to Father Tawny whom the crocefisso in issue is the work of one scultore Spanish and that it had been realized the indications of one religious second also Spanish. This religious one, Mother Hope, had of the mystical experiences. It was stigmatizzata and, like the greater part of the stigmatizzate ones, it not only lived again the main episodes of the passion of Christ, but it had, at the same time, of the visions. It existed, like always, the same problem and that is that these mystical different visions did not coincide never completely between they. This mystic came to live in Italy, to Collevalenza, and Ernetti Father had known it much good and he had continuation until its dead women. And ´, evidently, the realized image of the crocifisso after its visions that Sunday of the Courier and other reviews they had published, but that image did not come from the cronovisore." "Of the rest, with the cronovisore - Ernetti Father explains me - we have also the movement, that we have filmato. What it is true, rather, it is that the rassomiglianza between the image that we have seen and the sculpture of Cullot Valera is narcotic. But then because this Hush? Why you have not answered on this argument to all those who asked you explanations? The fact is that they are not free. I have already spoken too much. I have had the absolute impediment from part of my advanced ones of giving to new explanations, to answer to the accusations, to reaffirm the truth of the cronovisore and of it turns out to you caught up. I cannot not say that they are my advanced ones that prevents me to speak; because, then, the pressure of the journalists or the foreign intelligence agencies would have practiced on they. I would have them puttinges in danger. In a sure sense, the accusations moved against of me thought useful. Since I could not answer, I discredit little discouraged little all the onlookers. And it was just what they wanted, after the decision to take apart the apparatus and to maintain the secret." This answer, than reaches to us posthumous, would have to convince to us to throw in the trash all the accusations of mistificazione launch on Ernetti Father and to allow us, therefore, to less estimate with other attention the issue of the existence or of the temporal audiovisional machine. But we return to Don Borello which, in the interview over mentioned (9), it declares it are met with Ernetti Father and to have from he received the information that the machine had been taken apart and capacity in one it knows it of the Viminale (the Ministry of the Insides Italian). (Not, therefore, like asserted to the same Father Tawny and to others, in Vatican). It goes without saying, that he remains not credible who a similar machine has been delivered to the Vatican from the Ministry of the Insides Italian; but he equally remains incredible that the Vatican has delivered it to the Viminale. In March of 2000, a book exits in the United States on Ernetti Father written from Peter Krassa, the title it "the cronovisore of Ernetti Father - the construction and the passing of the first machine of the time of the world". In this book testimony of the Prof. Giuseppe Marasca is contained one. In fact it declares to have received from Ernetti Father the text of the Thyeste. That text whose authenticity, in the book of Krassa "the Cronovisore di Padre Ernetti", is put in argument from University professor Katherine Owen Eldred given a degree to in classic literature to the University of Princeton. Father Tawny had been, previously, contacted from John Chambers director of the editions "New Paradigm Books" who was preparing one edition American of the book, in German, of Peter Krassa. To Father Tawny the documentation came demanded to put to disposition all of which it could decide. In the occasion, it came sended to a copy of the edition American to it in preparation that turned out rimaneggiata very regarding the German edition. Father Tawny becomes account that the edition American has an attached explosive. An Italian who, come to acquaintance of the new edition in English, had sended a letter in which declared like one risen of "spiritual son" of Ernetti Father.


The Italian wanted absolutely to remain anonymous and asked for this purpose forms them guarantees, before allowing the publication of its letter. Naturally the director of the "New Paradigm Books" leads one its small inquiry, to the term of which, he thinks of having good reasons in order to consider the reached document authentic. The document comes accompanied from a perfect translation in English, that it is exactly that one used in the edition American of the book of Krassa. The letter, published in the Tawny book of Father, in understood it "the bugiardo collapses to the end", it contains, or it would want to contain, one true bomb; the confession of Ernetti Father who tells the truth approximately the cronovisore, the face of Christ, the Thyeste. (a teatrale work attributed to Fifth Ennio of which Ernetti Father it would have recovered with its cronovisore the rappresentazione held to Rome in the 169 a.c.) (10). Here synthetically the content of the letter: Ernetti father would have confessed to the son of a its beloved friend, than since child Travelling Uncle called it, than: - the reconstruction of the Thyeste had been imagined from he and it did not come from the machine of the time - the image of coming from Christ from the machine of the time was a lie - the machine had constructed it alone, Firm entered not there null, indeed every time that met it took it in turn. Insomma, the events records to you from the machine would be all one montatura. But the machine was not a fantasy, had truly constructed it, but alone. Here what says to the young person on the cronovisore: "It leaves that it says to you to what resembles my cronovisore. E´ a sphere, as an apparatus from immersion or a submarine characterizes them, with openings to the height of the eyes in all the directions. E´ suspended to a cable with a system that from the complete freedom of movement. Made E´ of material much light one, one aluminum alloy. Moved E´ the single power of the thought "is something Here that does not go. Bringing back of continuation: - the interview with Vincenzo Maddaloni, than has not shone for informative deontologia, in 1972, (1) - the written letter to Don Borello in 1990 (9), recalled from Father the Tawny ones in the interview rilasciata to the review "Who" of July 2002 (12): in the interview with Maddaloni of 1972 what it said here of the machine: Maddaloni: To pick up, but like? Ernetti Father: With the use of equipment adapted. Ours èquipe has been before in the world to construct them. The equipment is formed from one series of antennas in order to allow to the sintonizzazione of the single voices and images. It knows that every human being from when are born to when it dies leaves behind of himself like one double wake one sonorous and one visual, one species of various identity card for every person. E´ based on this identity card that can be reconstructed the single person in all its facts and its sayings, for this reason is in degree today of risentire and see again the larger personages of the history. Then this machine is a sphere attacked to a thread or is with of equipment connected to one forest of antennas? And still, when Ernetti Father writes to Don Borello (9) "the existence of the apparatus (the machine of the time) is sacrosanta a truth", than one has been picked up (with that machine) many things of the pure past is truth; that between these things picked up is also the image of Jesus and the Thyeste di Ennio is a truth, and that the supreme authorities of it have forbidden the use are also a truth "These declarations, written to Don Borello, they come remembered and strengthened also in the interview rilasciata to" Who "from Father Tawny (12) and naturally are brought back in its book. The contradiction between the false confession of and these declarations is more than evident. In means to this skillful fog, dov´ she is the truth. If the "confession" is true then also the machine has existed, it does not have importance that form had. On this equivalence the Tawny consideration of Father is based who this letter, also having disparaging attempt, admits that the machine has existed. The fact is that the machine, if never it has been constructed, has been very hidden. And without tests the angels waver also. In synthesis. This letter, than from Italy has crossed the ocean, we do not know if it has been written and sent for love of the truth. It would be opportune that who hides in the anonymity introduced, before that someone traces it. It can are given, in fact, than, between these lines, documents it encloses to you, there is the thread that could lead to the drafter of those words that tread on the honor of a clergyman a lot loved and respected, beyond that deriso and contrasted. That letter (10), that it exits from the shadow, instead clearing, renders all confused. That friend, than "spiritual son" would be $R-he who renders a confession public, if you he has never been, rendered from one person, incontestably, not in the full possession of the own mental faculties. Creed that its detractors would not have rallegrar of this "confession", quand´ also inhabitants on a hill, neither would have rammaricarsene its estimative ones. Approximately a year after this dramatic turn of events, in the February of 2001, in its Varazze, Don Borello dies. In the Gazette of Dawn of 7 March 2001 (11) Don Eugene Fornasari, remembering its activity of clergyman and scientist, of trace a lusinghiero profile. (Father Tawny who tries to take contact with Don Borello in the second half of 2001 still does not know of its dead women.) In the article of the "Gazette" (11) he points out himself also to monaco the Benedictine Travelling Father Ernetti and of its searches similar to those of Don Borello. Famous worthy E´ of the fact that, in Italy, the machine of the time, that is the possibility to record the events of the past, is tied, as far as the not scientific press, to two figures of clergymen: Don Luigi Borello and Travelling Padre Ernetti exactly. The reaction of Father Tawny, the most expensive friend of Ernetti Father, is decided and without hesitations. One reaction synthetized in the title it of the 9° understood it of its book: "a contre-feu" that I have translate: "one answer to the aggression". A title it of ninth understood it that the true one would want to be tito it of the book, being some the true motivation. In fact, with this titolato book: "the new mystery of the Vatican", Father Tawny tries to lead back the search of the truth where, perhaps, still there is someone who knows it. Father Tawny rilascia to the weekly magazine "Who" a long interview that comes published the 29 July 2002 in which speaks exactly about its last book (12). "I have the certainty that that machine has been truly invented from Ernetti Father and that hour hidden in Vatican is found". A certainty that is based: "On a friendship with Ernetti Father who is duration trent´ years, from 1964 to its dead women, happened in 1994. During all this time there are often meets to you and we have passed entirety tens of hours to speak about the cronovisore. In some occasions they have gone to find Ernetti Father also with of the friends scientists and also they have listened to its confidenze. I do not have some element in order to think that Ernetti Father was bugiardo or was a liar, for which I I believe blind to how much has reported to me ". This book is the passionate defense of a friend who takes the defense of the friend scomparso, while on he they flutter, posthumous, swindle accusations. Father Tawny tries with great determination, not omitting no indication, someone, a friend, a sister, that he has collected the confidenze of Travelling Father, but is a search that sventaglia the hand to the buio and in the empty one. Perhaps, it would have to try to speak with the pupils about the conservatory Benedict Marcello about Venice or with students who have had it like teacher to the university or Rome, near the Conservatory about Cecilia Saint. Possible E´ that Ernetti Father has not never said null to its pupils on its searches and the machine of the time? If someone of the pupils of Ernetti Father had something to say, after to have read these lines, will gladly accept a contact to means of my e-mail. Also maintaining the confidentiality, if demanded. Francois father is therefore friend of Travelling Father not to become account that the true and only friend of Travelling Father, the only one to which has said all the dicibile and with which truly it has confidato itself, it lives in the same place in which he it lives. Francois father sees it every day, when specchia. Beloved Francois Father, is she only, true it, friend for the skin Travelling Father, and who would not want to have a ready friend to defend to you also after that six died. A friend who is ready to make long travels, to speak with many persons; having like only scope that one to defend the good memory of the friend scomparso. Beloved Francois Father, its book would have to be read, also only for the hymn to the true and lose interested friendship that he represents. I would want to recall the affirmations, express in several interviews, is of Ernetti Father who of Don Borello. Ernetti father in the interview of 1972 says: "Ernetti Father: This machine can provoke one universal tragedy Maddaloni: Why? Ernetti Father: Because he removes the thought and action, word freedom in fact, also the thought is an emission of energy, therefore he is captabile. He will be able, that is, for means of the machine, knowledge which the neighbor or the adversary think. The consequences would be two: - or a eccidio of the humanity - or, difficult what, would be born one new moral. Here because it is necessary that these apparatuses do not become to the capacity of all, but remain under the direct control of the authorities. Maddaloni: Until when? Ernetti Father: Until when the man learns to act well for the good ". Don Borello, in the interview rilasciata to the weekly magazine "Who" (9), speaking about the letter that it had written the monaco Benedictine, in various points of the interview says: "and if instead, through that machine, one will discover that the regarding prodigiosi facts the life of Jesus have been it invents to you from its disciples? ". "If the father discoveries You emit had been authentic, they could become one" devastating bomb ". They could have carried to the demonstration that fundamental events for the history and the religions are not never are existed with unimaginable social consequences ". "It is clearly that an invention of the sort" upsets "the world. If it is succeeded to reconstruct how much is happened, is possible to resolve all the doubts, all the crimes, all the conspiracies. Not there would be secrets, private life. Every action, for the fact that becomes energy, would ramble in the space and could be picked up from anyone has a "cronovisore" ". Substantially they assert that this apparatus: - it is dangerous because it is in a position to reading the thought and therefore in a position to rendering every secret visible, - it is dangerous because it could demonstrate that the extraordinary events attributed to Jesus have been invent to you from its disciples, - it is dangerous because it could demonstrate that events consider you fundamental in the written history and in the birth of the religions they are not never you exist yourself.

That to say of these reasonings. In the ecclesiale field, for how much especially it concerns to the Catholic Church, we would have to remember that the same Church is the body of Christ. The searches of Giuseppe Calligaris, (published from the Aquarius Association), contained in the volumes "the linear chains of the body and spirit" (13), demonstrate that ognuna of the single parts of the human body it contains, also, the information of all the rest of the body. In order which reason, to the inside of the Christian vision, the body of Christ would not have to work, in how much great concrete body, in the same way. The principle of the free circulation and total of all the information, also in every single member of an organism, would not only motivate the same cristico body, but it would be base, irrenounceable, of the same one to slide of the life. From here, the consequent deduction that a body is died when the information does not slide you, because the life does not slide you. Here because a Christian must not have fear of the truth. He would have, instead, to augur itself that he slides free, also without strange blots some to the horizon. In explicit way, in the words said during the interviews, he seems to pick a reflected, coming from fear from the high authorities of the Vatican. One assumes, between the lines, than the high authorities of the Vatican they fear that a machine as this can exist, work and be used. Which could be these relative information to the past that do not have to be known. Perhaps, it could be discovered that the roman catholic Christianity does not have the two thousand years that it boasts, but, to mala pain, the passed century could arrive to cinque/sei centuries, adding as soon as. This menzogna would be more serious than eventual scritturali alterations, if it were accompanied also from alterations in I compute of the time. They could have been completed chronological alterations that, if discovered, would carry to behind, and a lot, the real one I compute of the years till now passed. We admit, only for some second, than how much it has been said and written, in these last thirty years, on the machine of the time it was, also minimally, true. And still we assume, always and only for some second, than di.là.dal Tevere they think of having something to hide, reported to the past. Would be credible silenzi, assilentimenti, traps, shunting lines do not import as motivated? They could be credible. But we are in the field of the conjectures you will convene some. Always in the field of the conjectures, what we could say of one seed-secret organization, than, discovered the technique of the cheat (brilliant: you write today what you want is true yesterday), had used it in its turn, in last the three centuries. This organization would have had the certainty of Hush from part of that, they in spite of I hope, were finds again accomplices to you of the large one dramatized constructed against the entire humanity. A small, agguerrito, group that, hardly if of it they created the conditions, could have in program to get rid of scomodo the accomplice. An accomplice in meat and boneses, subject to mortality. In the course of the generational reciprocations to you concern to us of the power, someone, covering the maximum charge, it could suffer from repentance crisis, could be pushed to say the truth on the technique used of makes documents antichi. But also this seed-secret organization, that it is forced to mainly stand on mortal men them, could, a day, to begin to lose pieces because of one new sensibility in the new human alternations in the charges of the pyramidal power. All condition them of obligation naturally. If you had the patience to read, without he knows to you, all the documentation collection in appendix, relative to the history of the existence or less than this machine, of its ability to see and to feel the events of the past, also you, like me, could believe that some lightning bolt of truth could be visible in all this history. You could, like me, to think not therefore incredible that he can himself be activated, in the last cinquant´ years, one risen of operation "sands you furnish". A complex and coordinated operation in the time, with a twofold objective: to lead, slowly, all the issue of the cronovisore towards the dimenticatoio and, parallel, to wrap the most exposed between the been involved persons (Ernetti Father) in "fumus" of not the reliability. The documents that I have collected can help who want to more know some. Of sure I will gladly send Francois Father. These pages do not want to be, naturally, an exaustive participation on the vicissitude of the cronovisore. Being be in some way been involved in this vicissitude, it is pure in quality of investigator, is natural that in these pages you walk indisturbato my point of view. These pages are mainly one book review, even if "on the generis", of the book of Tawny Francois Father. I invite therefore, and gladly, for who knows the French, to the direct reading of the book "the nouveau to mystere du Vatican", published from the Albin Michel of Paris. Dismissal the readers who do not know the French to one sperabilmente next Italian edition. As far as me that I write, if pits successful, at least in part, to dissolve some small shadow and to illuminate, also little, those buio died them that this vicissitude encircles all, I will think myself, momentarily, satisfied. We would have to be grates to the investigators of the truth like it is Francois Father Tawny and like sure it he was Travelling Father Ernetti. An only sorrow, to the end of this written that it has been, like intuirete, also a research work, than the thoroughness of all the information available, for himself, does not render the truth automatically visible.

Alberto Roccatano

Milano, 14 ottobre 2002

Documenti in appendice:

1 - DOMENICA DEL CORRIERE n. 18 del 2 Maggio 1972
Servizio di Vincenzo Maddaloni
2 - Il Giornale dei Misteri n. 17 - I lettori ci scrivono Rubrica di corrispondenza - a cura di Sergio Conti
SCOPPIA LA POLEMICA SULLE FOTOGRAFIE DEL PASSATO
Le rivelazioni di un lettore di Roma - Lettera aperta a P. Ernetti
3 - Articolo di Teresa Pavese - sulla ricerca di Don Luigi Borello
Pubblicato sulla rivista ARCANI n. 25 del giugno 1974
Cronovisione - LA MATERIA RACCONTA
4 - Arcani n. 24 - maggio 1974 - Don Luigi Borello tiene una rubrica intitolata "La posta di Padre Borello" - IMMAGINI E SUONI DEL PASSATO
5 - Arcani n. 29 - ottobre 74 - Con questo numero Padre Borello cessa per un periodo indefinito la sua collaborazione con il giornale per inderogabili impegni professionali
La posta di Padre Borello - il Mistero e la Fede è per il momento sospesa - TEORIE COSMOLOGICHE
6 - Giornale dei Misteri n. 114 - ottobre 1980 - I LETTORI CI SCRIVONO - Rubrica di corrispondenza a cura di Sergio Conti
Padre Ernetti e la «cronovisione»
7 - pagina 5 e 6 dell’introduzione del libro “Come le pietre raccontano”
INTRODUZIONE di Teresa
8 - pagina 83 del libro di Don Luigi Borello: “Come le pietre raccontano”
9 - CHI (Rivista italiana) n. 45 del 10 novembre 1999 - incontro con Don Luigi Borello, lo scienziato che sostiene la possibilità´ di vedere nel passato - articolo di Renzo Allegri
10 - Dal libro "Il nuovo mistero del vaticano" di Padre Francois Brune
Un capitolo esplosivo – “le fradeur craque enfin” – “il bugiardo crolla alla fine” – traduzione in italiano con testo francese a fronte
11 - ”Gazzetta d´Alba” n.10 del 7-3-2001 - di Don Eugenio Fornasari - Il sacerdote langarolo ha teorizzato la possibilità di leggere i "ricordi" della materia inanimata
12 - CHI (Rivista italiana) - del 29 luglio 2002 il giornalista Renzo Allegri intervista padre Francois Brune sul libro che ha scritto su Padre Pellegrino Ernetti e sulla sua scoperta e costruzione della "Macchina del tempo"
13 - Aquarius – Cenni biografici sulla vita di Giuseppe Calligaris



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