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To ALL THE TRAITORS WHO VOTED FOR CAFTA : DONīT FORGET THAT YOU ARE VISIBLE

 
We KNOW who you are
07/27/2005 11:34 PM
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To ALL THE TRAITORS WHO VOTED FOR CAFTA : DONīT FORGET THAT YOU ARE VISIBLE
If you think your puppetmasters are
to be feared...

You ainīt seen nothing YET.

Just wait until you FACE your
constituants!!!

TRAITORS!
Anonymous Coward
12/08/2005 10:13 AM
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Is there a list somewhere that shows who voted for it?
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12/08/2005 10:13 AM
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yeh, you OP should also know that threatening them is against the law and you can be tracked.

goodnight.
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12/08/2005 10:13 AM
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traitors for sure.
duh
12/08/2005 10:13 AM
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WTF is CAFTA?

Man! Am I living in a cave or what?!?!???
Iīm serious though. What is CAFTA?
cow
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12/08/2005 10:13 AM
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1004

They WILL have to FACE their constituants.

If you construe this as ANYTHING other
than what it is: YOU TOO ARE A TRAITOR and
one of the PROBLEMS. NAZI?? Or do you just
HATE AMERICA??

Just outed YOURSELF.
Now go back to sleep.
And sleep. And sleep.

And donīt EVER threaten ME again.
Anonymous Coward
12/08/2005 10:13 AM
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Central American FREE Trade Agreement

Giving away what is left of America.
Out sourcing ANYTHING thatīs left.
They even SNEAKED vitimin supplements into it.

C-span.org will list the TRAITORS.
Very happy you asked.

Itīs time to make them account for selling out.
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12/08/2005 10:13 AM
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vitamins (sorry)
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12/08/2005 10:13 AM
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12/08/2005 10:13 AM
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Itīs going to ruin sugar beet farmers in Minnesota.
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12/08/2005 10:13 AM
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[link to www3.capwiz.com]
(just enter your zip code)
You can check to see how your reps voted.

This bill was sponsored by Tom DeLay.
This, in and of itself, is a cry for
oversight.
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12/08/2005 10:13 AM
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All but 15 republicans voted for Cafta. Letīs vote all republicans out and vote dems and independents in .
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12/08/2005 10:13 AM
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OOOOH ...scary threat, O.P.!
WIO
12/08/2005 10:13 AM
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nUMBER 100 4= i am empty.. z eeeeeeeeze

what a number to have for one who is SS.. and can also be tracked.. and attacked..

ah ho WIO
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12/08/2005 10:13 AM
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" [link to www3.capwiz.com]
(just enter your zip code)"

Anyone else notice that it requires the 9-digit zip code, EVEN THOUGH IT WONīT TAKE IT?!?!?!?!?

Any other URLs for checking the vote? (Hey, at least it wasnīt a voice vote)
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12/08/2005 10:13 AM
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Central American labor doesnīt have a chance within this arrangement. This is a set-up.

Itīs not just that Central American workers will lose their collective bargaining power under CAFTA, the Central American states will lose their sovereignty over the terms and conditions of work of their population either to the US or to the "experts" (whores mostly hand-picked by the US) on the dispute settlement panel.

The only way for the workers to defend their labor rights is to act outside of the law because under CAFTA, the U.S. and its "experts" will become the law. Behind the US, and its panel of "experts," stands a costly and elaborate arbitration procedure under the auspices of the World Trade Organization, which is also loaded against Central America.

Please donīt overlook the detail that under CAFTA, the US supervises the enforcement of labor law in Central America. If the US believes that the Central Americans are not " īEFFECTIVELYī enforcing its labor law" drafted in accordance with CAFTA predatory principles, the US can demand a cabinet level meeting and if that meeting doesnīt work out, call in its stinking, lying panel of "experts.
By "effective" the US means brutal and savage, like the atrocities the Guatemalan "Party" recently committed to disperse the protesters against CAFTA.

Chapter Seventeen uses the exact same trick -- dispute settlement by a panel of "experts" -- to destroy the sovereignty of the Central Americans over their environment. Once Central America sells or otherwise loses control over its environment, there isnīt very much left to govern.

Chapter Eighteen supplies additional lies from the Bush regime about transparency.

Whatīs with these Central Americans and Dominicans?

Donīt they know the Bush lied the United States into war with Iraq, using the WMD and the Iraq and 9/11 falsehoods. So, the Bush regime is a confirmed liar. Transparency is impossible with such people, because everything they say is suspect. But on the other hand, if Bush can lied the United States into war, he may be able to lie Central America into CAFTA.

Is that transparent?

Chapter Nineteen sets up a Free Trade Commission, comprised of trade ministers (the US minister and his puppets) to supervise the implementation and overall operation of the agreement. This farce meets once a year and makes decisions by consensus.

Chapter Twenty supplies a detailed discussion of dispute settlement mechanism -- the panel of "experts" trick -- that robs the courts of the Central American countries of the judicial power the hear and decide what is or is not just with regard to labor, the environment, and everything else pertaining to the agreement. This chapter also discusses the links between the CAFTA and the World Trade Organization.

"LEVEL THE PLAYING FIELD," THE IMPERIALISTS DEMAND
Everybody in the world knows that the playing field between the US and Central America isnīt level, but only a few ... if that many ... know about the nonsense that this unleveled field favors the Central Americans, not the US.

You see, back in the ī80s, the US imperialists gave Central American exports tariff free access to the US market in a deal known as the Caribbean Basin Initiative. Thatīs when the playing field supposedly became unleveled, according to the US imperialists, because, donīt you see, the Central Americans could get their products into the US without paying tariffs, but the US imperialists couldnīt get their products in Central America without paying tariffs.

Since the 80s, access to the US market grew even more important to the Central Americans as a result of the stimulus that the Caribbean Basin Initiative gave to their exports to the US.

The Bush regime has threaten to level the paying field by canceling the Caribbean Basin Initiative for Central America, if the Central American countries turned down the CAFTA agreement. Bush believes that if the blackmail or extortion of the Central America fails, the US economy will not be hurt because the status quo will prevail with regard to US exports in Central America and competing US products sold within the United States will be spared the competition from tariff-free Central American imports.

However, Central America may be seriously hurt economically if the extortionist Bush regime restore the tariffs that the Caribbean Basin Initiative removed.

Donald Rumsfeld ... the mad dog of US imperialism ... said recently that US and Central American "cooperation" in many fields will come to a halt if Central America refuses to go for CAFTA "In my view, a rejection of the Central American Free Trade Agreement would do more than simply bring this cooperation and much of the regionīs progress to a halt. Our neighbors do not live in a vacuum and they are facing many pressures to turn away from a pro-American stance. Cuba and Venezuela -- no friends to the United States -- are promoting radicalism and attempting to subvert the democratic governments in the region. Indeed, Venezuela is actively lobbying local legislators in Central America to vote against CAFTA."

The difference between Caribbean Basin Initiative (CBI) and CAFTA is that the CBI is a tariff removing deal ... but CAFTA is a fake tariff removing deal AND a sovereignty-destroying deal for the Central Americans. CAFTA does not level the playing field, rather it makes the playing field more unleveled to the benefit of the US and to the detriment of Central America and the Dominican Republic.

The deal doesnīt make sense on economic grounds for the Central Americans, Mexico foolishly sign a softer or milder trade deal than CAFTA ten years ago with the US. Since signing, the wages of industrial workers have fallen 25% and over 700,000 small farmers in Mexico have lost their land. During the same period, migration from Mexico to the US has doubled.

US imperialism is extremely pleased with all three developments, including the increased migration because it helps the imperialists to "in-source," that is, replace higher-paid US workers with lower-paid foreign workers inside the US and "out-source," that is, replace higher-paid US workers with foreign workers abroad.

Years ago, undocumented workers in the US from Central America or wherever mostly did work that US workers refused to do. But times have changed. Today, the undocumented workers also do work on a large scale that the US workers want to do, but not at the wage that the undocumented will do it.

"Insourcing" is an rapidly growing and spreading phenomenon.

The GOP bosses tell the US workers to lower their wage demands or they will be either insourced or outsourced.

There is a lamentable tendency in some liberal and even left circles to sneer at the "greedy" or the "overpaid" US workers in this predicament until the same imperialist trick is used on other workers who are closer to home, such as the Central American workers who may find jobs in their own countries in the promised textile industry. The US imperialists will tell the Central American workers to lower and lower and lower their wage demands because they must compete against the cheaper Indian and Chinese labor. Thatīs why industrial wages in Mexico have dropped drastically during the NAFTA, the deal between Mexico, US and Canada.

In addition to leveling the playing field, CAFTA is supposed to provide something called "sustainable development." The development, if any, is sustainable only because its benefits, if any, are obtainable by less than 20% of the population. Development that includes the scorned 80% of the population is deemed too costly or is denounced as squandering. The slave wages that the US imperialists will pay the Central American workers under CAFTA will leave the benefits, if any, of CAFTA-related development unobtainable to the workers. The small farmers ... already impoverished ... will be wiped out by heavily subsidized US agricultural imports that under CAFTA face no retraining tariffs and the landless will be driven into immense shantytowns of Central America ... unless they migrate to US or somewhere ... to watch from afar the wonders of the glorious "sustainable development" exclusively for the privileged 20% of society.

Corruption and extortion, as usual, are the main tools the US uses to get CAFTA ratified in Central America. The corruption (paying and taking bribes for political favors) of government officials outside of the US is the main -- but not the only -- responsibility of the US State Department, US Agency for International Development, Central Intelligence Agency and the US Department of Defense. All the core institutions of a foreign state, especially those in Central America, are corrupted -- the military, police, civil service, legislature, judiciary and senior executives. All of them are on the take.

In addition to public officials, US imperialism in the ī80s … about the same time the Caribbean Basin Initiative was launched … decided to corrupt "civil society," not just public officials. So, US imperialism set up the US National Endowment for Democracy (NED) which promotes corruption and which divides "civil society" into four categories or "institutes" -- the rightwing, the liberal wing, the bourgeoisie and labor -- and corrupts all of them with bribes until it gets about 20% of population who will support the US over and against the government of their own country. Then the US tries to strip the country of its sovereignty.

This is what CAFTA tries to do.

In 2005, NED will get $80,000,000 from the US Congress to corrupt "civil society."
That doubles what it got in 2004. A good portion of that money will be spent corrupting Central America.

Francisco Villagran de Leon, the former Guatemalan ambassador to the Organization of American States, the United Nations, Canada, Norway and Germany, seems to be NEDīs point man on the CAFTA operation. Villagran is also a former NED "fellow" or endowee.

We should not overlook the detail that NED in addition to promoting corruption also performs a very important money laundering role for US imperialism.

CONCLUSION

"The coming vote on CAFTA is a national-security vote. Let there be no doubt." -- Donald H.Rumsfeld, US Secretary of Defense, writes in his June 8 ed-op for the Miami Herald.
Well, I have no doubt about the CAFTA vote being a national security vote ... the Central Americans under CAFTA wonīt have any national security.

Rumsfeld titled his piece "CAFTA good for the US"

If so, the US is the only country CAFTA is good for ... and I doubt that it is, in fact, good even for the USA.


This is one of the numerous US national security provisions of CAFTA, the busy US spies will be given easy and ready access to the communications of the Central American people.

After CAFTA, US-sponsored death squads, trained at the savage and barbaric School of the Americas at Fort Benning, Georgia, may be more precise in their murder operations against leftist, liberals, and other progressives because the USA Patriot Act "REQUIRES" telecommunications companies to rat out their customers to US spies and their professional murderers.

Central America, especially El Salvador and Guatemala, have a lot of experience with the murderous operations of US-trained and US-sponsored death squads.

The most barbaric and genocidal provision of CAFTA is found in Chapter Fifteen which "complements and enhances existing international standards for the protection of intellectual property and the enforcement of intellectual property rights, consistent with US law." This one is designed to assist the physical removal of potentially a million people living with terminable diseases, especially HIV/AIDS, in the CAFTA region.

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