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Breaking: SUPERSTORM! - California’s other "Big One" (USGS- FLOODS)

 
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Breaking: SUPERSTORM! - California’s other "Big One" (USGS- FLOODS)
This USGS press release was the lead story on ABC local news @ 5pm.

ARkStorm: California’s other "Big One"
Released: 1/14/2011 3:00:00 PM
[link to www.usgs.gov]

excerpt: "... scientists unveiled a hypothetical California scenario that describes a storm that could produce up to 10 feet of rain, cause extensive flooding (in many cases overwhelming the state’s flood-protection system) and result in more than $300 billion in damage." (the newscast said $1 trillion)


The way it was presented, it sounded like they except this hypothetical situation to be a reality.

edited title 1/18 from "Arkstorm" to "SUPERSTORM!"

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This USGS press release was the lead story on ABC local news @ 5pm.

ARkStorm: California’s other "Big One"
Released: 1/14/2011 3:00:00 PM
[link to www.usgs.gov]

excerpt: "... scientists unveiled a hypothetical California scenario that describes a storm that could produce up to 10 feet of rain, cause extensive flooding (in many cases overwhelming the state’s flood-protection system) and result in more than $300 billion in damage." (the newscast said $1 trillion)


The way it was presented, it sounded like they except this hypothetical situation to be a reality.
 Quoting: JaneDoeX0X

Well..thats because they DO.
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[link to www.usgs.gov]
excerpt: "We think this event happens once every 100 or 200 years or so, which puts it in the same category as our big San Andreas earthquakes. The ARkStorm is essentially two historic storms (January 1969 and February 1986) put back to back in a scientifically plausible way."
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The way it was presented, it sounded like they except this hypothetical situation to be a reality.


Well..thats because they DO.
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Well, yes, lol. I guess what I meant to say it that while they used words like hypothetical, it came across as a warning of something that is imminent in the near future - like this year.

They cited the 17" of rain in 3 days that fell in areas of Los Angeles last month as an example.
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Here's the website for ArkStorm:

[link to urbanearth.usgs.gov]
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The way it was presented, it sounded like they except this hypothetical situation to be a reality.


Well..thats because they DO.


Well, yes, lol. I guess what I meant to say it that while they used words like hypothetical, it came across as a warning of something that is imminent in the near future - like this year.

They cited the 17" of rain in 3 days that fell in areas of Los Angeles last month as an example.
 Quoting: JaneDoeX0X

We had 34.4 inches during this storm. The most ever for a SEASON was 134 inches...here in the mountains.

The hypothesis is RIDICULOUS!
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I just remembered the lead in for the ABC news report on this new doom scenario: they called it "California's Perfect Storm."
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I just remembered the lead in for the ABC news report on this new doom scenario: they called it "California's Perfect Storm."
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Crazy...I read about it today, I must say I love the name of ArkStorm. I wonder if they will create an Ark for us Californians, that would be so cool! I live in Los Angeles and have noticed that each rain season we have had our clouds look wierd like they are too low I have always paid attention to the sky even as a small kid and I don't remember them being so low.
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I just remembered the lead in for the ABC news report on this new doom scenario: they called it "California's Perfect Storm."

Crazy...I read about it today, I must say I love the name of ArkStorm. I wonder if they will create an Ark for us Californians, that would be so cool! I live in Los Angeles and have noticed that each rain season we have had our clouds look wierd like they are too low I have always paid attention to the sky even as a small kid and I don't remember them being so low.
 Quoting: ECLIPSE


I like the name, too, but not the scenario, lol! Maybe they'll bring in a bunch of those Green Arks (apparently each holds 10,000 people: Thread: The Green Ark To House 10,000 People. ).
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This is comforting ... NOT!!!


Catastrophic Storm Headed To California?

"I think Californians should be worried about this," USGS Director Marcia McNutt said.

more: [link to www.kcra.com]
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I've never, ever seen the weather people warn us of a potential freak super storm that has not formed... why now? Is it because of all the super storms across the world right now spewing chaos? Do they know these storms forming because we have entered a magnetic pole reversal?
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I've never, ever seen the weather people warn us of a potential freak super storm that has not formed... why now? Is it because of all the super storms across the world right now spewing chaos? Do they know these storms forming because we have entered a magnetic pole reversal?
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I'm guessing the scientific answer would have to do with the cycles for storms like this.

The less scientific answer is that it's their subtle way of saying yes to the questions you pose!

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I just remembered the lead in for the ABC news report on this new doom scenario: they called it "California's Perfect Storm."

Crazy...I read about it today, I must say I love the name of ArkStorm. I wonder if they will create an Ark for us Californians, that would be so cool! I live in Los Angeles and have noticed that each rain season we have had our clouds look wierd like they are too low I have always paid attention to the sky even as a small kid and I don't remember them being so low.


I like the name, too, but not the scenario, lol! Maybe they'll bring in a bunch of those Green Arks (apparently each holds 10,000 people: Thread: The Green Ark To House 10,000 People. ).
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1227560

Maybe we'll be one of the first to try out the Green Arks! I agree with USGS I know Los Angeles wont be able to handle a massive storm, we can barely handle our seasonal rain which cause major pot holes some huge and our streets get flooded so quickly.
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I live in Los Angeles and have noticed that each rain season we have had our clouds look wierd like they are too low I have always paid attention to the sky even as a small kid and I don't remember them being so low.
 Quoting: ECLIPSE


That's interesting. I'm going to pay more attention to them when I get back to L.A.!
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The way it was presented, it sounded like they except this hypothetical situation to be a reality.


Well..thats because they DO.


Well, yes, lol. I guess what I meant to say it that while they used words like hypothetical, it came across as a warning of something that is imminent in the near future - like this year.

They cited the 17" of rain in 3 days that fell in areas of Los Angeles last month as an example.


We had 34.4 inches during this storm. The most ever for a SEASON was 134 inches...here in the mountains.

 Quoting: ChuckE


Which mountains?
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They are in direct violation of the SCWXA Storm Scale system I developed. I've been in contact with them and will receive contact back after Monday on this serious matter.
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When I was moving out to the Central Valley I found documents in the library for risk factors for things like quakes, flooding, liquefaction, etc.

This sounds more or less like what was called the '500 year flood' a rare, but geologically recorded event where the central valley basically becomes a very shallow lake.

While our property extends halfway into the river outback, we are about 85-100 feet above the river on average. We have a steep - nearly a cliff - hill at the back of the property.

Considering the risks and looking at elevation maps, in order for water from the river to reach my door step the whole of Modesto would be under about 15 to 25 feet of water.

Yet my home sits in an area that does get flooded about every 500 years.

I can not imagine that much water flowing through the valley, it would completely wipe out Stockton, Sacramento, Modesto and all of the minor and tiny communities between.
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They are in direct violation of the SCWXA Storm Scale system I developed. I've been in contact with them and will receive contact back after Monday on this serious matter.
 Quoting: KevinMartinWx


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Happened before - 1860 and 1862 According to the video at News 3 (KCRA).
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Happened before - 1860 and 1862 According to the video at News 3 (KCRA).
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The way it was presented, it sounded like they except this hypothetical situation to be a reality.


Well..thats because they DO.


Well, yes, lol. I guess what I meant to say it that while they used words like hypothetical, it came across as a warning of something that is imminent in the near future - like this year.

They cited the 17" of rain in 3 days that fell in areas of Los Angeles last month as an example.


We had 34.4 inches during this storm. The most ever for a SEASON was 134 inches...here in the mountains.



Which mountains?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1227560

San Bernardino Mountains..From Lake Gregory to Lake Arrowhead.
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They are in direct violation of the SCWXA Storm Scale system I developed. I've been in contact with them and will receive contact back after Monday on this serious matter.
 Quoting: KevinMartinWx

Like YOU are an expert!! Why r u ALWAYS WRONG???? Why do you always copy NOAA???
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The way it was presented, it sounded like they except this hypothetical situation to be a reality.


Well..thats because they DO.


Well, yes, lol. I guess what I meant to say it that while they used words like hypothetical, it came across as a warning of something that is imminent in the near future - like this year.

They cited the 17" of rain in 3 days that fell in areas of Los Angeles last month as an example.


We had 34.4 inches during this storm. The most ever for a SEASON was 134 inches...here in the mountains.



Which mountains?

San Bernardino Mountains..From Lake Gregory to Lake Arrowhead.
 Quoting: ChuckE


Lucky! It's so beautiful up there! Did you get affected by the mudslides after that last big storm?
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This is comforting ... NOT!!!


Catastrophic Storm Headed To California?

"I think Californians should be worried about this," USGS Director Marcia McNutt said.

more: [link to www.kcra.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1227560


Thanks!
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They are in direct violation of the SCWXA Storm Scale system I developed. I've been in contact with them and will receive contact back after Monday on this serious matter.

Like YOU are an expert!! Why r u ALWAYS WRONG???? Why do you always copy NOAA???
 Quoting: ChuckE


m, I am the developer of the category system for storms in California and have used my scale since competition. They will be fighting a legal battle with me because it is a trademark of the SCWXA to categorize Pacific Storms.
IMPORTANT: any mention of NWS/InAccu/TWC gets deleted and banned, I do not like or care for their input.

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10 feet of rain



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This USGS press release was the lead story on ABC local news @ 5pm.

ARkStorm: California’s other "Big One"
Released: 1/14/2011 3:00:00 PM
[link to www.usgs.gov]

excerpt: "... scientists unveiled a hypothetical California scenario that describes a storm that could produce up to 10 feet of rain, cause extensive flooding (in many cases overwhelming the state’s flood-protection system) and result in more than $300 billion in damage." (the newscast said $1 trillion)


The way it was presented, it sounded like they except this hypothetical situation to be a reality.
 Quoting: JaneDoeX0X


Why are they calling the arkstorm the big one, this aint a porno this is a god dam storm
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Bump for SuperStorm long-term scenario discussion.
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More Arkstorm threads:
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More Superstorm threads:
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or just discuss it here.





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