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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1199672 United States 01/18/2011 01:19 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to www.youtube.com] I notice the bags under his eyes, "too". |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1199672 United States 01/18/2011 01:29 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You all wanna see some CRAZY SHIT?! Watch the above video. At the end when they show Loughner's mugshot and then go back to Zamudio, freeze it on Zamudio and look at the earlobes on Loughner's mugshot and the earlobes on Zamudio. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1199672Maybe i jumped the gun on that one.. But i still think Loughner's mugshot was messed with. What does Roger Salzgeber look like? Links/pics, please, i don't have a TV. |
Plautus
(OP) User ID: 933740 United States 01/18/2011 01:42 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Tucson Shooting Hero Joe Zamudio Sets Ed Schultz Right On Owning A Pistol Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1199672[link to www.youtube.com] I notice the bags under his eyes, "too". Bags under his eyes, the cold, emotionless delivery, all the attributes that he attributes to Loughner, he exhibits himself, including the black hoodie and wool coat witnesses described. |
Plautus
(OP) User ID: 933740 United States 01/18/2011 01:44 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Salzgeber: [link to morrisonworldnews.com] |
Plautus
(OP) User ID: 933740 United States 01/18/2011 01:50 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to azstarnet.com] "He had volunteered for Giffords in the 2010 race, signing on after the plate-glass door to her congressional office was smashed back in March. He hadn't seen her since her victory party, but a phone call on Friday inspired him to head to the Safeway for 'Congress on Your Corner.'" This is in regards to Salzgeber. He volunteered for her campaign just after her office door was smashed in March of last year. He also claims a phoned invitation was the reason he was there. Maisch makes a similar claim as to her presence there, as did the late judge Roll. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 343019 South Korea 01/18/2011 02:21 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I've noticed virtually everyone seems to have accepted that Lougher was the trigger man in the mass murder in Tucson. I've compiled all the witness statements and I'm not convinced that's the case. The main reason is one of the 911 calls indicates the shooter fled the scene. All of the witnesses hit the pavement or took a bullet when the shooting started. Many of them claim to remember nothing. Virtually all of them report hearing the shots but not seeing the shots. I think there was another shooter there, that Loughner is just a patsy. There are many other reasons that I think this but the initial reason was the 911 report and fact that initially the police were looking for an accomplice, as they were unconvinced Loughner had carried out this attack alone. Quoting: PlautusIt's natural to have questions. Most people would have them if they thought about what happened. It may have happened in a minute or less. That's the impression I got from reading some of the press. Much of what the bystanders did was by reflex. Nobody had a lot of time to think, observe, and detail what was going on at the time. Without photos or video footage it would be real hard to reconstruct what happened based on the eyewitness reports. The details that might clear up some of your questions are being held back by the officials Much more information will be presented at the trial. Until then, all one can do is speculate. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1173076 Japan 01/18/2011 02:27 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'm sure it was a chaotic scene with people panicing and running in many directions. Propbably people thought they saw all kinds of things that might not have even happened. So please take that into account. For example, suppose you heard gunshots and screams, and saw a man with a gun run by heading south? You'd probably think that's the shooter -- but what if it was just another guy who was there who coincidentally happened to have a gun (not so implausible in a state like Arazona) and pulled it naturally when he heard the shots. I'm not sayin that's what happened, but it seems more likely to me that witnesses were confused or in some kind of shock themselves rather than there being this baroque conspiracy. Just look at Loughner's videos and writings...the guy is batshit insane. |
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Plautus
(OP) User ID: 933740 United States 01/18/2011 02:45 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'm not sayin that's what happened, but it seems more likely to me that witnesses were confused or in some kind of shock themselves rather than there being this baroque conspiracy. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1173076I find the "lone nut" character rather baroque, now that you mention it. I don't find the idea of setting up a patsy to take a fall for a political murder to be anything other than mundane. It's happened over and over again throughout history. Just look at Loughner's videos and writings...the guy is batshit insane. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1173076You might ask yourself why that stuff is still online, given that Loughner's Myspace account was terminated. It quite likely the police anticipate somebody else possibly logging on to those accounts. The video produced by the junior college where Loughner was walking around the school talking shit was very different than any of the inane rantings attributed to Loughner on the YouTube channel. The flag burning video is almost certainly not Loughner. That flag was burned the way a soldier would burn it. Notice the person in the video went to great lengths to demonstrate the flag was worn and tattered before he burned it. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1227301 United States 01/18/2011 09:54 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | BUMP. I still think Loughner was setup big time, pumped full of drugs, brain-washed and completely manipulated. Maybe in 10 or 20 years his memory will come back to him and people will just say he's even more nuts and just wants out of prison.. Well who the eff doesn't want out of prison, but the memory blockers taking that long to ware off seems familiar to me, just not sure from where. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1227301 United States 01/18/2011 10:02 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | In this photo it shows Zamudio with rays coming from him and rays going on Salzgeber; [link to www.nydailynews.com] |
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User ID: 745407 United States 01/18/2011 10:14 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Bags under his eyes, the cold, emotionless delivery, all the attributes that he attributes to Loughner, he exhibits himself, including the black hoodie and wool coat witnesses described. Quoting: PlautusIf that was "emotionless" in your world, you really need help... "Hold my cat while I bring in my tomato plant. That chemtrail looks like an earthquake chemtrail" deanoZXT-07/20/2014 07:48 PM |
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User ID: 745407 United States 01/18/2011 10:16 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The video produced by the junior college where Loughner was walking around the school talking shit was very different than any of the inane rantings attributed to Loughner on the YouTube channel. The flag burning video is almost certainly not Loughner. That flag was burned the way a soldier would burn it. Notice the person in the video went to great lengths to demonstrate the flag was worn and tattered before he burned it. Quoting: PlautusFFS Please seek help now, before you harm yourself or others... "Hold my cat while I bring in my tomato plant. That chemtrail looks like an earthquake chemtrail" deanoZXT-07/20/2014 07:48 PM |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1084175 United States 01/18/2011 10:20 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I tend to believe Loughner wasn't the shooter or was very controlled. How does he hit all those people with one (extended) magazine? The magazine is known to fail, too. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1112675The official story never made sense from Day 1. I have a 30 round clip and a Glock. "Known to fail"? Sure...in about 1 out of every 1000 shots |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 745407 United States 01/18/2011 10:44 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I tend to believe Loughner wasn't the shooter or was very controlled. How does he hit all those people with one (extended) magazine? The magazine is known to fail, too. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1084175The official story never made sense from Day 1. I have a 30 round clip and a Glock. "Known to fail"? Sure...in about 1 out of every 1000 shots Never had a Glock 'fail', and never seen one stovepipe no matter what it's eating... |
Plautus
(OP) User ID: 933740 United States 01/18/2011 11:14 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I came across this from the day of the shooting: "Of course because there is a pending investigation we're trying to make sure that everything that we talk about is just details regarding the events after the shooting." - Daniel Hernandez [link to www.youtube.com] This is a comment made by Daniel Hernandez following the FBI taking over the investigation. If the FBI intimidating witnesses? Hernandez says he's not going to talk about the shooting because of the "investigation", yet the same day we have Zamudio, Badger and Maisch giving television interviews describing their participation in this crime. Salzgeber figures high in all those accounts but he's peculiarly unwilling to talk about his role. So it would seem only some of the participants are allowed to talk about the shooting. |
LunaLu
User ID: 1227305 United States 01/18/2011 11:17 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I've noticed virtually everyone seems to have accepted that Lougher was the trigger man in the mass murder in Tucson. I've compiled all the witness statements and I'm not convinced that's the case. The main reason is one of the 911 calls indicates the shooter fled the scene. All of the witnesses hit the pavement or took a bullet when the shooting started. Many of them claim to remember nothing. Virtually all of them report hearing the shots but not seeing the shots. I think there was another shooter there, that Loughner is just a patsy. There are many other reasons that I think this but the initial reason was the 911 report and fact that initially the police were looking for an accomplice, as they were unconvinced Loughner had carried out this attack alone. Quoting: PlautusI think Laughner is innocent but thats just me Without truth, history will certainly repeat the same wars in time of universal deceit. Telling the truth has become a revolutionary act, so let us salute those who disclose the necessary facts |
Plautus
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User ID: 745407 United States 01/18/2011 11:22 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | FFS Quoting: PlautusPlease seek help now, before you harm yourself or others... I think you have me confused with Zamudio. Oh, also, eat my shit. I sincerely hope you get the help you need... "Hold my cat while I bring in my tomato plant. That chemtrail looks like an earthquake chemtrail" deanoZXT-07/20/2014 07:48 PM |
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User ID: 745407 United States 01/18/2011 11:27 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I sincerely hope you get the help you need... Quoting: PlautusI don't need any help, particularly not from the likes of you. Stop wasting my oxygen. Is there an adult there I might be able to chat with for a second? "Hold my cat while I bring in my tomato plant. That chemtrail looks like an earthquake chemtrail" deanoZXT-07/20/2014 07:48 PM |
Plautus
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SnakeAirlines
User ID: 745407 United States 01/18/2011 11:35 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Is there an adult there I might be able to chat with for a second? Quoting: PlautusIs there an adult who might be able to change your diaper? Clam up, chowder head. Latchkey kid, huh? "Hold my cat while I bring in my tomato plant. That chemtrail looks like an earthquake chemtrail" deanoZXT-07/20/2014 07:48 PM |