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ATTENTION CALIFORNIA GUN OWNERS.!

 
Trench
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ATTENTION CALIFORNIA GUN OWNERS.!
Just a reminder..

California AB 962 is scheduled to go into effect February 1, 2011.

Among other regulations, AB 962 will:
*Ban all mail-order and Internet sales of ammunition
*Require drivers license and thumb print for purchase of ammo
*Require face to face transaction


So if you intend on ordering ammo, now would be the time..
“The difference between combat and sport is that in combat you
bury the guy who comes in second.”

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Hey Trench, I was wondering what the stipulations are in going from Las Vegas to Cali with a firearm on vacation. Thought you may know a little bit of incite on this.
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rant
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Re: ATTENTION CALIFORNIA GUN OWNERS.!
There are still gun owners who live in Kalifornia?
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Re: ATTENTION CALIFORNIA GUN OWNERS.!
Hey Trench, I was wondering what the stipulations are in going from Las Vegas to Cali with a firearm on vacation. Thought you may know a little bit of incite on this.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1137636
I think this will help you out,
[link to www.calgunlaws.com]
“The difference between combat and sport is that in combat you
bury the guy who comes in second.”

"The more skills you have,the less shit you need"

Philosophy of Liberty: [link to illuminati-order.com]

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Tyranny is afoot...
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Re: ATTENTION CALIFORNIA GUN OWNERS.!
Hey Trench, I was wondering what the stipulations are in going from Las Vegas to Cali with a firearm on vacation. Thought you may know a little bit of incite on this.
I think this will help you out,
[link to www.calgunlaws.com]
 Quoting: Trench

Thank you and this is what I found:
With certain exceptions, a concealed handgun can legally be transported within a motor vehicle without a permit only by carrying it: 1) unloaded and 2) locked in the vehicle's trunk or in a separate locked container other than the utility or glove compartment. If the vehicle does not have a trunk, it must be carried in a locked container separate from the utility or glove compartment. Ammunition cannot be attached to the handgun in any manner.
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Re: ATTENTION CALIFORNIA GUN OWNERS.!
Thank you and this is what I found:
With certain exceptions, a concealed handgun can legally be transported within a motor vehicle without a permit only by carrying it: 1) unloaded and 2) locked in the vehicle's trunk or in a separate locked container other than the utility or glove compartment. If the vehicle does not have a trunk, it must be carried in a locked container separate from the utility or glove compartment. Ammunition cannot be attached to the handgun in any manner.
 Quoting: Dark Jedi 1137636
You can legally open carry but the handgun must be unloaded ,while you carry the mags for it on your belt or where ever (IMO, one of the stupidest fucking gun laws i've ever heard of)..AND i have no idea where you are vacationing , maybe you intend to camp or something BUT if you decide to carry a fixed blade knife on your belt and run into a law enforcement officer,make no insinuations or inferences of any kind connecting the concept or idea of "self-defense" to the knife.It's a TOOL.And NO double edged blades.. And if you are carrying an EDC folder make sure it cant just be flicked open with a snap of the wrist, make sure it takes a firm thumb assist to open it..Just my .02
“The difference between combat and sport is that in combat you
bury the guy who comes in second.”

"The more skills you have,the less shit you need"

Philosophy of Liberty: [link to illuminati-order.com]

email anytime: [email protected]
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Re: ATTENTION CALIFORNIA GUN OWNERS.!
bump
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Re: ATTENTION CALIFORNIA GUN OWNERS.!
*Require drivers license and thumb print for purchase of ammo

Just to purchase ammo?
Are you fucking serious?!

California is the most fucked up state in the US...
Milk.Man.

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Re: ATTENTION CALIFORNIA GUN OWNERS.!
Just a reminder..

California AB 962 is scheduled to go into effect February 1, 2011.

Among other regulations, AB 962 will:
*Require drivers license and thumb print for purchase of ammo
 Quoting: Trench

Wouldn't this violate the 4th amendment as the purchase of ammo doesn't give probable cause for search or seizure?

"The gathering of fingerprint evidence from 'free persons' constitutes a sufficiently significant interference with individual expectations of privacy that law enforcement officials are required to demonstrate that they have probable cause, or at least an articulable suspicion, to believe that the person committed a criminal offense and that the fingerprinting will establish or negate the person's connection to the offense. See Hayes v. Florida, 470 U.S. 811, 813-18 ('85); Davis v. Mississippi, 394 U.S. 721, 726-28 ('69)."

"The Fourth Amendment does not bar the fingerprinting of a properly seized person. "Fingerprinting involves none of the probing into an individual's private life and thoughts that marks an interrogation or search." See Davis v. Mississippi, 394 U.S. 721, 727 (1969). So long as the initial seizure of the person is reasonable, as in a lawful arrest, subsequent fingerprinting is permissible. It is also possible that the requirements of the Fourth Amendment could be met through "narrowly circumscribed procedures for obtaining, during the course of a criminal investigation, the fingerprints of individuals for whom there is no probable cause for arrest." See Davis v. Mississippi, supra, at 728; see also Hayes v. Florida, 470 U.S. 811 (1985)."
[link to www.justice.gov]

Now, as far as I know buying ammo is still NOT considered a criminal act...this is bullshit.
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Re: ATTENTION CALIFORNIA GUN OWNERS.!
Thank you and this is what I found:
With certain exceptions, a concealed handgun can legally be transported within a motor vehicle without a permit only by carrying it: 1) unloaded and 2) locked in the vehicle's trunk or in a separate locked container other than the utility or glove compartment. If the vehicle does not have a trunk, it must be carried in a locked container separate from the utility or glove compartment. Ammunition cannot be attached to the handgun in any manner.
You can legally open carry but the handgun must be unloaded ,while you carry the mags for it on your belt or where ever (IMO, one of the stupidest fucking gun laws i've ever heard of)..AND i have no idea where you are vacationing , maybe you intend to camp or something BUT if you decide to carry a fixed blade knife on your belt and run into a law enforcement officer,make no insinuations or inferences of any kind connecting the concept or idea of "self-defense" to the knife.It's a TOOL.And NO double edged blades.. And if you are carrying an EDC folder make sure it cant just be flicked open with a snap of the wrist, make sure it takes a firm thumb assist to open it..Just my .02
 Quoting: Trench

Good to know on the knife too, thanks man.
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Re: ATTENTION CALIFORNIA GUN OWNERS.!
*Require drivers license and thumb print for purchase of ammo

Just to purchase ammo?
Are you fucking serious?!

California is the most fucked up state in the US...
 Quoting: Milk.Man.




And always remember. Kalifornia is usually the testing ground for the rest of the country.
Trench  (OP)

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Re: ATTENTION CALIFORNIA GUN OWNERS.!
Wouldn't this violate the 4th amendment as the purchase of ammo doesn't give probable cause for search or seizure?

"The gathering of fingerprint evidence from 'free persons' constitutes a sufficiently significant interference with individual expectations of privacy that law enforcement officials are required to demonstrate that they have probable cause, or at least an articulable suspicion, to believe that the person committed a criminal offense and that the fingerprinting will establish or negate the person's connection to the offense. See Hayes v. Florida, 470 U.S. 811, 813-18 ('85); Davis v. Mississippi, 394 U.S. 721, 726-28 ('69)."

"The Fourth Amendment does not bar the fingerprinting of a properly seized person. "Fingerprinting involves none of the probing into an individual's private life and thoughts that marks an interrogation or search." See Davis v. Mississippi, 394 U.S. 721, 727 (1969). So long as the initial seizure of the person is reasonable, as in a lawful arrest, subsequent fingerprinting is permissible. It is also possible that the requirements of the Fourth Amendment could be met through "narrowly circumscribed procedures for obtaining, during the course of a criminal investigation, the fingerprints of individuals for whom there is no probable cause for arrest." See Davis v. Mississippi, supra, at 728; see also Hayes v. Florida, 470 U.S. 811 (1985)."
[link to www.justice.gov]

Now, as far as I know buying ammo is still NOT considered a criminal act...this is bullshit.
 Quoting: Milk.Man.
I don't really know, being as the law passed but i can tell you this . Collapsing societies/empires always try to assert the most control over their citizens that they can before the final death throes. Draw your own conclusions
“The difference between combat and sport is that in combat you
bury the guy who comes in second.”

"The more skills you have,the less shit you need"

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Re: ATTENTION CALIFORNIA GUN OWNERS.!
bump for the day crew
“The difference between combat and sport is that in combat you
bury the guy who comes in second.”

"The more skills you have,the less shit you need"

Philosophy of Liberty: [link to illuminati-order.com]

email anytime: [email protected]
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Re: ATTENTION CALIFORNIA GUN OWNERS.!
Thank you and this is what I found:
With certain exceptions, a concealed handgun can legally be transported within a motor vehicle without a permit only by carrying it: 1) unloaded and 2) locked in the vehicle's trunk or in a separate locked container other than the utility or glove compartment. If the vehicle does not have a trunk, it must be carried in a locked container separate from the utility or glove compartment. Ammunition cannot be attached to the handgun in any manner.
You can legally open carry but the handgun must be unloaded ,while you carry the mags for it on your belt or where ever (IMO, one of the stupidest fucking gun laws i've ever heard of)..AND i have no idea where you are vacationing , maybe you intend to camp or something BUT if you decide to carry a fixed blade knife on your belt and run into a law enforcement officer,make no insinuations or inferences of any kind connecting the concept or idea of "self-defense" to the knife.It's a TOOL.And NO double edged blades.. And if you are carrying an EDC folder make sure it cant just be flicked open with a snap of the wrist, make sure it takes a firm thumb assist to open it..Just my .02
 Quoting: Trench



If you're an out of stater passing through, make sure your magazine does not exceed the CA limit, which I believe is 10. Better leave those hi cap mags at home.
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This is what they want for the whole US and most blue staters think this is awesome.
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Re: ATTENTION CALIFORNIA GUN OWNERS.!
If you're an out of stater passing through, make sure your magazine does not exceed the CA limit, which I believe is 10. Better leave those hi cap mags at home.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1177801


LOL
High Cap is like 30. A 10 rnd is less than normal. So you mean leave those "regular" capacity mags at home :)
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Re: ATTENTION CALIFORNIA GUN OWNERS.!
If you're an out of stater passing through, make sure your magazine does not exceed the CA limit, which I believe is 10. Better leave those hi cap mags at home.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1177801
+1 i forgot to mention that.
“The difference between combat and sport is that in combat you
bury the guy who comes in second.”

"The more skills you have,the less shit you need"

Philosophy of Liberty: [link to illuminati-order.com]

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WRT A/C

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Me thinks there a little late.....

We be all set!

minkey

Last Edited by WRT A/C on 01/18/2011 01:19 PM





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