Rifle Scopes

Maybe for a .22.

as you increase magnification eye relief goes from less critical abt 13" to more precise abt 8"

most people on here didn't understand the scout rifle part

Guess you can't afford a "normal" scope mount for the m1a? If so, I understand. They're expensive. Personally, I'd rather go with a normal scope. The LER scopes are pretty limited on high-end magnification.

This one sound interesting, thanks

eye relief way too short for scout rifle

Pfft...people have been convinced by marketing departments that they need 20 power scopes to shoot beyond 100 yards, but there are guys shooting 1000 yards with iron sights every weekend at high power matches.

I haven't turned my 3-9x on my .308 past 4x in years.

You are correct, I only want to go out to about 1000 yard max.

This is the first time I have really decided to buy a scope. I use to shoot up to a 1000 yards with iron sights.

good for you

It takes max loads of 7.62x54r all day long (more than 308) SOLID

I was kidding.

LOL this thread was already done on this board long ago...

State your eye relief requirements in inches please.

Under 3.5-4 inches?? And priced around 300 bucks or less?

Bushnell Elite 3200 or Nikon Buckmaster.

On a .308 I'd go with the Bushnell- its tested at .375 H&H recoil levels.


I own both-they get the job done on a budget- Bushnell built tougher better turrents-Nikon slightly better glass.

Thanks Omega, I guess I did not look far enough back. lol

I know a few people around here that use 4-12x's in a long eye relief situation with quick release rings:

1. Use 4-8 power on the rifle.
2. Remove and use 12 power for spotting.
3. The scope can be moved to another rifle where the base is on the receiver.

Options.

is this how you're mounting it ?

[link to www.ultimak.com]

you need abt 10" of eye relief

Well that thread didn't cover longer eye relief requirements-I don't know what that is on your Scout rifle although in general longer eye relief means more expense. Also, you'll need an adjustable objective at the ranges you stated both scopes I stated have that feature.

I imagine if Lester see's this thread he'll jump on in with his detailed recommendations.

Thanks, I need 8 to 13 inches eye relief. It came with a forward rail scope mounting system.

Yes, except this looks like a longer scope rail than mine.

OK, in that case the best place I can think of to get this question definitively answered is here:

[link to www.snipershide.com]

In the scopes forum.

this

Nikon Prostaff for me as well, I use the 3-9x40.
[link to www.nikonsportoptics.com]

My dad has a Bushnell Banner Dusk & Dawn 3-9x40, it's a nice scope and costs a little less than the Prostaff.
[link to www.opticsplanet.net]

Both are well worth the money and are good choices if you don't want to spend a fortune

If you are mounting it down on the barrel like a scout, you need a pistol scope, or scout rifle scope that has enough eye relief.

I would go with a 2-7x leupold.

I will have to check out the Leopuld again and I was just looking at Busnell from Omega's reply.

I will have to go check them out a little later, thanks.

Last Edited by Rooster on 01/18/2011 03:51 PM

An M1a Springfield Scout?
Original type with side-folding stock?

Nice rifle.

Need to investigate scope base mount systems.
Sadlak, ARMS #18, Smith Entps all make a good sight base.
There are others with even more forward mounting long rails.

Not like you need a scout scope.
The M1a is not the best choice for deliberate aimed fire using any kind of scope, UNLESS you obtain a cheek-riser.

Have owned Sadlak base. Very Good. Mounts semi-permanently to the base where your stripper-clip guide slot is now attached. You won't need the stripper guide.

A Leupold 4.5-14x is a great all-around scope for the M1a. The 3-9x mark 2 w/mil-dot is also a decent choice. Nikon Buckmaster 4-14 side-focus w/mil-dot at about $275/$325 is really decent as well.

For good rings, TPS TSR are about the best value.


Your M1a could be setup with National Match sights and be extremely quick responding plus capable of good accuracy. Not like it will be a bench rifle, but I bought NM sights for my plainjane M1a and a match gas cylinder kit from Fulton Armory in the early 90s. The rifle groups under an inch easily. The scope mount situation was why I bought AR-10 rifles, yet the M1a remains a fast reacting rifle when you get used to the aperture sights.

Try SWFA.com and their sample list for pricing and to see what's out there. Fulton Armory and snipershide.com are also good resources to read.

If you have an original side-folding stocked Springfield Armory rifle, as built in the late 80s early 90s, think twice before you shoot the hell out of it. They are quite valuable. Check Gunbroker.com for rifle values or gunsamerica.com

Good luck and congrats on owning a nice rifle!

Thanks Lester, I will check them out. Oh and by the way it is not the side folding stock, I only wish.

Last Edited by Rooster on 01/18/2011 04:00 PM

^This. Told ya. ;>)

Lester be the resident expert round here.

Good luck finding a LER riflescope that is of any quality and actually works. I finally settled on an NCStar for my Mosin and it works great. Cheap but i ordered a $200 scope and it was so dark i couldn't see anything. Also, don't even bother looking for a LER scope that has Mil-dots, they do not exist for some reason. The only one i found was an Osprey, which was another higher priced POS. Good luck.

Lester sounds very knowledgeable on the subject, not that I would dismiss what you say either.

Thanks for the suggestion and as you can see there have been some very good suggestions on here.

Does the Mark 4 have a long enough eye relief for him? That was my problem LERs that were 4-5 inches. i needed a pistol scope to scout scope the Mosin. Hard to find a good one.