THE PERFECT GENETIC STORM - Synthetic DNA & the Gulf Blue Plague | |
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Marquis
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1052871 United States 01/20/2011 11:52 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to thetruthnews.info] "I don’t know about you but when I hear things like designed in the computer, chemically made in the laboratory, transplanted into a recipient cell and self-replicating cell controlled only by the synthetic genome it raises my eyebrows, red flags begin waving and bells and whistles go off, silly me. I just have little concerns such as, what if this get’s out of control and mutates itself into a self- replicating super bacteria/organism/microbe and wipes out everything on the planet." |
Oiled in Florida
(OP) User ID: 1228510 United States 01/20/2011 12:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Any connection to this National Geographic story about some Zombie virus? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1052871[link to news.nationalgeographic.com] Yes. The simplest way for me to explain the connection is to have you read The Gulf Blue Plague is Evolving - Part II: Corexit + Bacteria = Mutated Viruses at [link to worldvisionportal.org] |
Oiled in Florida
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1235854 United States 01/20/2011 12:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The article, I think was removed from the web ( I could be wrong ), but I have a saved copy Scientists say Gulf spill altering food web Jul 14, 8:24 AM (ET) (originally by MATTHEW BROWN and RAMIT PLUSHNICK-MASTI (Below is just a section from the article) "Chemical oceanographer John Kessler from Texas A&M University and geochemist David Valentine from the University of California-Santa Barbara recently spent about two weeks sampling the waters in a six-mile radius around the BP-operated Deepwater Horizon rig. More than 3,000 feet below the surface, they found natural gas levels have reached about 100,000 times normal, Kessler said. Already those concentrations are pushing down oxygen levels as the gas gets broken down by bacteria, Kessler and Valentine said. When oxygen levels drop low enough, the breakdown of oil and gas grinds to a halt and most life can't be sustained. The researchers also found dead pyrosomes covering the Gulf's surface in and around the spill site. "There were thousands of these guys dead on the surface, just a mass eradication of them," Kessler said." The rest of the article I have copied. [link to mentaljudo.blogspot.com] The interesting thing I noticed is that Valentine's paper was received for review on August 23, around 40 days after the statements in the quoted article, a seemingly 180 turnaround from what he had said. Now, I isn't a microbiologist or anyting like dat But I do like to follow things as closely as possible, permitting my limitations of understanding, and things just never added up. |
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Marquis
User ID: 1236174 United Kingdom 01/20/2011 12:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Care to explain why Swiss trained Dr. John Waterman's statement is BS? Quoting: Oiled in FloridaViruses can't turn into bacteria because they don't have the molecular machinery to effect any change in their own structure - they're just DNA or RNA sheathed in a bit of protein with none of the requirements for self-replication. No ribosomes, no nothing. They rely on taking over other cells and hijacking their machinery to live. Bacteria can't turn into fungi because they're as different from one another as plants are from animals. More so, actually, in a genetic sense. Many bacteria are even prokaryotic, meaning they don't have cell organelles that fungi need for reproduction. Even exposed to powerful mutagens it would take hundreds of millions of years for that large an evolutionary leap. Imagine how unlikely it would be to spill some oil on yourself and suddenly turn into an oak tree. That's slightly more likely than bacteria turning into fungi. |
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Oiled in Florida
(OP) User ID: 1228510 United States 01/20/2011 12:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Soon after the Deepwater Horizon inferno, U.S. government scientists – with grant funds supplied by British Petroleum – started giving us solid clues as to what they were doing with all that crude oil and gas. In May 2010, National Geographic quoted Dr. Terry Hazen from the U.S. government’s Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory who said, “…we could introduce a genetic material into indigenous bugs via a bacteriophage – a virus that infects bacteria – to give local microbes DNA that would allow them to break down oil. Either that, he said, or a lab could create a completely new organism that thrives in the ocean, eats oil, and needs a certain stimulant to live…” There were two possible solutions according to Dr. Hazen, who is considered to be the foremost crude oil bioremediation expert in the world. 1. Either use synthetically engineered viruses called bacteriophages, or ‘phages’, to infect and alter the genetics of indigenous Gulf bacteria; or, 2. synthetically create an entirely new organism, i.e. a new species of bacteria, to eat up the oil and/or gas and introduce it into the Gulf of Mexico. [link to blueplague.net] |
Mercy143 User ID: 1174250 United States 01/20/2011 12:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Just some of the thoughts that go through my head when I read stuff like this about the things going on in the Gulf. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1052871 United States 01/20/2011 12:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | New York Times article from June 17, 2010: Will Bacterial Plague Follow Crude Oil Spill Along Gulf Coast? [link to www.nytimes.com] |
Oiled in Florida
(OP) User ID: 1228510 United States 01/20/2011 12:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'm not up to date on the science of all this, but how possible would it be for these nasty little crude and methane eating bacteria to get into our oil and methane deposits? What would happen if they did? Could it cause those deposits to disappear? Could they do it without help or would they need someone to put them there? Quoting: Mercy143 1174250Just some of the thoughts that go through my head when I read stuff like this about the things going on in the Gulf. Since there are fissures and cracks in the Gulf ocean floor now, perhaps as some of the crude oil and gas is coming out and relieving the reservoir pressure, other cracks could allow the synthetic genome bacteria to enter into the reservoir. But without the needed earth elements like iron and copper these syn-bio bacteria need to multiply, that might not be able to happen... unless the earth structure surrounding the oil reservoir has its own deposits of iron and copper. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1052871 United States 01/20/2011 12:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | buy some seafood mother fuckers Quoting: Anonymous Coward 992442eat up! Yup, Red Lobster is offering a complete seafood dinner for two for $29.99! [link to www.redlobster.com] |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1237193 United States 01/20/2011 12:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'm not up to date on the science of all this, but how possible would it be for these nasty little crude and methane eating bacteria to get into our oil and methane deposits? What would happen if they did? Could it cause those deposits to disappear? Could they do it without help or would they need someone to put them there? Quoting: Oiled in FloridaJust some of the thoughts that go through my head when I read stuff like this about the things going on in the Gulf. Since there are fissures and cracks in the Gulf ocean floor now, perhaps as some of the crude oil and gas is coming out and relieving the reservoir pressure, other cracks could allow the synthetic genome bacteria to enter into the reservoir. But without the needed earth elements like iron and copper these syn-bio bacteria need to multiply, that might not be able to happen... unless the earth structure surrounding the oil reservoir has its own deposits of iron and copper. There are some who think that the oil and gas gushing from the reservoir under the sea bed is allowing sea water to flow into the reservoir, and that the flow will continue until an equalibrium has been reached. If there is such a mix of oil and sea water happening in the reservoir under the sea floor, then the synthetic bacteria is infecting the oil reservoir. Apology, no link. Just something for consideration. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1052871 United States 01/20/2011 01:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | When was this video taped? When did it happen? That one was from September 2009, sounds like he might've been working on whatever they were working up to unleash in the Gulf of Mexico in Spring 2010. [link to www.stevequayle.com] Also see [link to www.stevequayle.com] and [link to www.Gas_oven.com] |
mr...bojangles
User ID: 1173371 Mexico 01/20/2011 01:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Microbes can morph, they can change. Viruses can turn into bacteria and bacteria can turn into fungi. Quoting: Oiled in FloridaCare to explain why Swiss trained Dr. John Waterman's statement is BS? don´t feed the trolls. Beyond one's own mind there is no dazzling light to come shining in from outside to wake one up. If one recognizes one's own intrinsic State as pure from the beginning and only temporarily obscured by impurities, and if one maintains the presence of this recognition without becoming distracted, then all the impurities dissolve. This is the essence of the Path-namkhai norbu. Why is there a legend about the descent of Christ into hell? The Teacher addressed the lower strata of the astral world, saying: �Why, by cherishing earthly thoughts, bind oneself eternally to Earth?� And many revolted in spirit and rose higher. Thread: I shot video of the earth from my spacecraft, enjoy! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 854887 United States 01/20/2011 01:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | buy some seafood mother fuckers Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1052871eat up! Yup, Red Lobster is offering a complete seafood dinner for two for $29.99! [link to www.redlobster.com] |
mr...bojangles
User ID: 1173371 Mexico 01/20/2011 01:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Care to explain why Swiss trained Dr. John Waterman's statement is BS? Quoting: MarquisViruses can't turn into bacteria because they don't have the molecular machinery to effect any change in their own structure - they're just DNA or RNA sheathed in a bit of protein with none of the requirements for self-replication. No ribosomes, no nothing. They rely on taking over other cells and hijacking their machinery to live. Bacteria can't turn into fungi because they're as different from one another as plants are from animals. More so, actually, in a genetic sense. Many bacteria are even prokaryotic, meaning they don't have cell organelles that fungi need for reproduction. Even exposed to powerful mutagens it would take hundreds of millions of years for that large an evolutionary leap. Imagine how unlikely it would be to spill some oil on yourself and suddenly turn into an oak tree. That's slightly more likely than bacteria turning into fungi. can the same be said for designer bacteria, synthia? Beyond one's own mind there is no dazzling light to come shining in from outside to wake one up. If one recognizes one's own intrinsic State as pure from the beginning and only temporarily obscured by impurities, and if one maintains the presence of this recognition without becoming distracted, then all the impurities dissolve. This is the essence of the Path-namkhai norbu. Why is there a legend about the descent of Christ into hell? The Teacher addressed the lower strata of the astral world, saying: �Why, by cherishing earthly thoughts, bind oneself eternally to Earth?� And many revolted in spirit and rose higher. Thread: I shot video of the earth from my spacecraft, enjoy! |
mr...bojangles
User ID: 1173371 Mexico 01/20/2011 01:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | buy some seafood mother fuckers Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1052871eat up! Yup, Red Lobster is offering a complete seafood dinner for two for $29.99! [link to www.redlobster.com] that´s a bargain! count me in! Beyond one's own mind there is no dazzling light to come shining in from outside to wake one up. If one recognizes one's own intrinsic State as pure from the beginning and only temporarily obscured by impurities, and if one maintains the presence of this recognition without becoming distracted, then all the impurities dissolve. This is the essence of the Path-namkhai norbu. Why is there a legend about the descent of Christ into hell? The Teacher addressed the lower strata of the astral world, saying: �Why, by cherishing earthly thoughts, bind oneself eternally to Earth?� And many revolted in spirit and rose higher. Thread: I shot video of the earth from my spacecraft, enjoy! |
mr...bojangles
User ID: 1173371 Mexico 01/20/2011 02:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | When was this video taped? When did it happen? That one was from September 2009, sounds like he might've been working on whatever they were working up to unleash in the Gulf of Mexico in Spring 2010. [link to www.stevequayle.com] Also see [link to www.stevequayle.com] and [link to www.Gas_oven.com] there have been something like 30 micro´s been passed away, unvoluntarily me thinks, in the last ten years! what is wrong with this picture? Beyond one's own mind there is no dazzling light to come shining in from outside to wake one up. If one recognizes one's own intrinsic State as pure from the beginning and only temporarily obscured by impurities, and if one maintains the presence of this recognition without becoming distracted, then all the impurities dissolve. This is the essence of the Path-namkhai norbu. Why is there a legend about the descent of Christ into hell? The Teacher addressed the lower strata of the astral world, saying: �Why, by cherishing earthly thoughts, bind oneself eternally to Earth?� And many revolted in spirit and rose higher. Thread: I shot video of the earth from my spacecraft, enjoy! |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1187376 United States 01/20/2011 02:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What’s taking place in the Gulf of Mexico is not a regional problem just for those of us who live here. It’s a worldwide problem. Subtle viral and bacterial signs are beginning to show up everywhere. Quoting: Oiled in FloridaMysterious unexplained diseases affecting fish, sea mammals, animals, fowl, trees, plants and mankind are occurring because of the synthetic genomes that are changing and mutating the natural organisms in the oceans and in the air. As my RN friend with over 30 years of trauma and clinical experience in Louisiana put it, “This is like an opera where the main characters are Frankenstein and King Neptune. When the fat lady of the Gulf finally sings in the last act, there may not be much of an audience left to hear her.” In summary, all I can say is what I’ve been saying for many months… “Wherever the Gulf wind blows and the Gulf water flows” [link to blueplague.net] a Few years ago we had a space probe come back with samples - it was to parachute into the desert...instead the parachutes failed and the rentry probe with alien samples smashed into the desert at an incredible sped breeching the containment vessel and releasing the samples here on earth.... google it ....this is not a story |
mr...bojangles
User ID: 1173371 Mexico 01/20/2011 02:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | By 2005, we lost 40 micro-biologists in less than 4 years, all under suspicious circumstances, and during this time someone discovered that they were all working for the government, or government contractors, on projects related to bio-terrorism, flu pandemics, or anthrax. Obviously they weren't trying to find a cure for anything, or there would be no need to silence them.-quote. [link to stienster.blogspot.com] Beyond one's own mind there is no dazzling light to come shining in from outside to wake one up. If one recognizes one's own intrinsic State as pure from the beginning and only temporarily obscured by impurities, and if one maintains the presence of this recognition without becoming distracted, then all the impurities dissolve. This is the essence of the Path-namkhai norbu. Why is there a legend about the descent of Christ into hell? The Teacher addressed the lower strata of the astral world, saying: �Why, by cherishing earthly thoughts, bind oneself eternally to Earth?� And many revolted in spirit and rose higher. Thread: I shot video of the earth from my spacecraft, enjoy! |
ShadowDancer
User ID: 287857 United States 01/20/2011 02:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | water filtration is a wise idea and leaving the area where massive contamination is present is great if one can~ hemorrhage common Loss of Oxygen in air and water...and HAARP being jacked High trying to avoid their fears~ It is throughout the worlds waters IMHO and plenty of chemicals as well, pharmies, hormones...poisons of various kinds Corporations are going after waters-trying to own them and take them freely and gouge the public Plastic bottles form how many islands in the Pacific now??? And the plastic BPA is deadly and sterilizing everyone and even sea life dying from the plastic chips they break down into and they consume. dead areas throughout the ocean and large bodies of water all over the world, Nestle and corporations like them pirate the waters to their companies coca cola and pepsi Best protect water-living waters are being assaulted Made bitter for most-even the crabs evacuated on to the shore-leaving the water...even the CRABS! Recently before the disaster in the GOM there was a major study done on seafood weight Weights and measures...illegal ones were being used- They were spraying the seafood with freezing water and counting the ICE throughout and on the product as part of the weight When many were paying 5 dollars or more, some seafood even much higher like 12 dollars a pound-the people were paying about 40-50% for ICE- So in fact, the industry has been plagued by fraud-and FALSE WEIGHTS AND MEASURES a big no no- Now, that food chain has been thoroughly jacked-and now land animals dropping as well- If say a 'pesticide' killed many 'pests'(insects) then many animals will naturally starve to death and even beyond that: they are killing large groups of wild horses and burros(NV and other places)-as they did the buffalo in the 40s-and large populations of geese-in NY while wolf packs overtake Russia-best get a clue-and now with radicals surrounding many-one best protect their rights they assert- seems the world is gone insane-truly upside down, and speaking truthfully painted as radical while real radicals rage against the people of the world. ************************************ fortitudo et spes ************************************ When Japan happened I responded: "The Excrement Has Impacted the Rotary Oscillator." and clearly it has. Thread: The Excrement Is Striking the Rotary Oscillator +++++++++++++++ "Ego et Dominus sumus amici" +++++++++++++++ Ego et mea umbra +++++++++++++++ 'Man does not have the right to develop his own mind. This kind of liberal orientation has great appeal. We must electrically control the brain. Some day armies and generals will be controlled by electric stimulation of the brain.’ - U.S. government mind manipulator, Dr. Jose Delgado, Congressional Record, No. 262E, Vol. 118, 1974 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Realeyesrealizereallies. C. Thread: GIRD uP as GRID Collapses Thread: Eugenics 101 (Page 27) Thread: Frankenfoods for YOU (Page 2) Thread: I Do Not Consent Thread: FOOD Thread: Cern Power___Colder than Space Thread: Hempilation Compilation Contemplation Thread: Harmonics and Healing (Page 35) Thread: Sarah's Nightmare (Page 10) Thread: Destination Maccabees Thread: Let's Play a GAME Thread: Throat Singing |
ShadowDancer
User ID: 287857 United States 01/20/2011 02:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | John P Wheeler One with the highest clearance in this country and was involved with 3 presidents previously as staff He was in chemical and biological warfare...recently hired by Mitre(I think) and then involved with Cyber He was murdered and dumped in a landfill-pretty serious stuff... that was a week or so back...and some others died Ben Tyson an older Tyson fame died from cancer... and many other interesting things happening simultaneously-the better to keep most off balance and unable to grasp the implications as the data overwhelms many. ************************************ fortitudo et spes ************************************ When Japan happened I responded: "The Excrement Has Impacted the Rotary Oscillator." and clearly it has. Thread: The Excrement Is Striking the Rotary Oscillator +++++++++++++++ "Ego et Dominus sumus amici" +++++++++++++++ Ego et mea umbra +++++++++++++++ 'Man does not have the right to develop his own mind. This kind of liberal orientation has great appeal. We must electrically control the brain. Some day armies and generals will be controlled by electric stimulation of the brain.’ - U.S. government mind manipulator, Dr. Jose Delgado, Congressional Record, No. 262E, Vol. 118, 1974 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Realeyesrealizereallies. C. Thread: GIRD uP as GRID Collapses Thread: Eugenics 101 (Page 27) Thread: Frankenfoods for YOU (Page 2) Thread: I Do Not Consent Thread: FOOD Thread: Cern Power___Colder than Space Thread: Hempilation Compilation Contemplation Thread: Harmonics and Healing (Page 35) Thread: Sarah's Nightmare (Page 10) Thread: Destination Maccabees Thread: Let's Play a GAME Thread: Throat Singing |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1237260 United Kingdom 01/20/2011 02:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Soon come the deadly sores that dont heal as the bible warned of. Quoting: jonniequest 1233105Sure that's nor morgellons. [link to www.google.co.uk] |