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THE PERFECT GENETIC STORM - Synthetic DNA & the Gulf Blue Plague

 
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i tell u now so u believe me, 15 may ...... sick oil
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You have to be retarded to believe this.

Never mind on second thought I can actually see how laymen with no biology knowledge would buy this.
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OK, so PROVE him wrong.

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This is even more serious than the world wide financial collapse that just around the corner.
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synthia.
Beyond one's own mind there is no dazzling light to come shining in from outside to wake one up. If one recognizes one's own intrinsic State as pure from the beginning and only temporarily obscured by impurities, and if one maintains the presence of this recognition without becoming distracted, then all the impurities dissolve. This is the essence of the Path-namkhai norbu.

Why is there a legend about the descent of Christ into hell? The Teacher addressed the lower strata of the astral world, saying: �Why, by cherishing earthly thoughts, bind oneself eternally to Earth?� And many revolted in spirit and rose higher.
Thread: I shot video of the earth from my spacecraft, enjoy!
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google it!
Beyond one's own mind there is no dazzling light to come shining in from outside to wake one up. If one recognizes one's own intrinsic State as pure from the beginning and only temporarily obscured by impurities, and if one maintains the presence of this recognition without becoming distracted, then all the impurities dissolve. This is the essence of the Path-namkhai norbu.

Why is there a legend about the descent of Christ into hell? The Teacher addressed the lower strata of the astral world, saying: �Why, by cherishing earthly thoughts, bind oneself eternally to Earth?� And many revolted in spirit and rose higher.
Thread: I shot video of the earth from my spacecraft, enjoy!
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synthia.
 Quoting: mr...bojangles

No. It's not Synthia. It's Synthia's relatives and their mutations. Synthia was a different bacteria.
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synthia.
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[link to worldvisionportal.org]

SYNTHIA HAS A COUSIN

The only ingredient missing is a new and previously unknown genus of hydrocarbon-eating bacteria that can survive the cold water depths - where the lakes of oil and tar now sit - so it could degrade it faster than any known natural bacteria.

In a paper published in the journal Science, Terry Hazen and his colleagues at Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory discovered in late May through early June 2010 that a previously unknown species of cold-water hydrocarbon-eating bacteria have been feasting on the underwater oil plumes degrading them at accelerated rates. (11)

We can now understand why, on May 15, BP/Synthetic Genome’s CEO Craig Venter hinted of a new hydrocarbon-eating synthetic genome. Prior to that date, JCVI had already applied for numerous additional patents (we were able to find seven) regarding synthetic bio-remediation, such as bacteria synthetic genomes which provide unique DNA information required for “replication of a free-living organism”. In layman’s terms, this means the BP and Synthetic Genome scientists had already created self-replicating bacteria “wherein the assembled DNA molecule is a [synthetic] genome” back in 2007. (13)

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Plasmids - used for genetic engineering

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

HGT - horizontal gene transfer

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

Horizontal gene transfer was first described in Japan in a 1959 publication that demonstrated the transfer of antibiotic resistance between different species of bacteria. In the mid-1980s, Syvanen predicted that lateral gene transfer existed, had biological significance, and was involved in shaping evolutionary history from the beginning of life on Earth.

As Jain, Rivera and Lake (1999) put it: "Increasingly, studies of genes and genomes are indicating that considerable horizontal transfer has occurred between prokaryotes. The phenomenon appears to have had some significance for unicellular eukaryotes as well. As Bapteste et al. (2005) observe, "additional evidence suggests that gene transfer might also be an important evolutionary mechanism in protist evolution."

There is some evidence that even higher plants and animals have been affected and this has raised concerns for safety. However, Richardson and Palmer (2007) state: "Horizontal gene transfer (HGT) has played a major role in bacterial evolution and is fairly common in certain unicellular eukaryotes. However, the prevalence and importance of HGT in the evolution of multicellular eukaryotes remain unclear."

Due to the increasing amount of evidence suggesting the importance of these phenomena for evolution (see below) molecular biologists such as Peter Gogarten have described horizontal gene transfer as "A New Paradigm for Biology".

It should also be noted that the process may be a hidden hazard of genetic engineering as it may allow dangerous transgenic DNA to spread from species to species.

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Bacteriophages act by transduction

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

Bacteriophages

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

What's still very interesting too, is that BP is not releasing samples of oil captured from the wellhead to anybody except for a select few.
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is this what the green pulsing light was being pumped into the gulf?
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no that was a digit scrolling readout,it was out off focus so you couldn't read it properly.
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You have to be retarded to believe this.

Never mind on second thought I can actually see how laymen with no biology knowledge would buy this.


OK, so PROVE him wrong.


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first off, proving this bacteria is synthetic or not is not as easy as you may think, there are billions of bacteria out there, they are constatly evolving to break down "stuff" that humans produce, like plastics for exaple that has just happened recently. It's preety naive for this guy to believe that we have already collected all the bacteria that exist on earth and have decoded all their DNA "signiture" lol. So if there was an major oil spill in the gulf which is often exploited for oil and even leaks oil naturally, it's makes sense that bacteria that can break it down already exist, and that they would be unknown to scientists untill now, such bacteria exist everywhere on earth.

Secondly let's say this is a synthetic bacteria, first of all you could only know that it's synthetic if the creator included a water mark somwhere in the genome, that is if the watermark is still intact and hasn't mutated (since it happens to be in a irrelevant noncoding region that would readily mutate). You would also need to talk to the people that designed it and ask them what the watermark looks like.

when it comes to understanding the genome and genetic engeniering humans are preety infantyle, all Venter simply coppied and pasted the genome with little modifications (such as shortening some regions) nature is still most efficient at designing genes, all humans are doing do far is swaping them between species or breaking them to see how they work, intracellular signaling is too complex to create new pathways by ourselves (I know I deal with these problems every day in the lab)

and yes I do have access to a pcr machine and a sequencing core, but what he is asking is preety silly, prove to me that cats weren't genetically engeniered by aliens and placed on earth to watch over humans. Unless you know what to look for your can't prove or disprove this claim.

Lastly why are you so pissed? What if they are really genetically engeniered bacteria that are eating oil, do you want oil to polute the gulf? If anything nefarious I would say it's not genetically egeniered but instead selectively grown in a lab like they are trying to make algae that produce oil, or perhaps viruses to transmit oil breakdown genes to natural bacteria, I don't understand why that fightens you so much. Or how you make a leap from oil degrading gene to some sort of superhuman bacteria that kills billions of fish and birds nontheless.

But you know your probably going to ignore me like you ignored the other guy that tried to explain to you rationally that viruses do not "mutate" into bacteria and then bacteria into fungi, I don't know if that guy really said that but if he did, he should be stripped of his title of Doctor. Someone once told me that the first rule of GLP is not to let any evidence or rationalit explanation spoil a good conspiracy, I don't really know why I'm even explaining this to you perhaps I can naively hope to help you realize your claims are exagerated and you shouldn't worry, but I can't stop you from doing something you love, which is scarring yourself with silly doom that any person that knows biology can disprove.
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You have to be retarded to believe this.

Never mind on second thought I can actually see how laymen with no biology knowledge would buy this.


OK, so PROVE him wrong.




first off, proving this bacteria is synthetic or not is not as easy as you may think, there are billions of bacteria out there, they are constatly evolving to break down "stuff" that humans produce, like plastics for exaple that has just happened recently. It's preety naive for this guy to believe that we have already collected all the bacteria that exist on earth and have decoded all their DNA "signiture" lol. So if there was an major oil spill in the gulf which is often exploited for oil and even leaks oil naturally, it's makes sense that bacteria that can break it down already exist, and that they would be unknown to scientists untill now, such bacteria exist everywhere on earth.

Secondly let's say this is a synthetic bacteria, first of all you could only know that it's synthetic if the creator included a water mark somwhere in the genome, that is if the watermark is still intact and hasn't mutated (since it happens to be in a irrelevant noncoding region that would readily mutate). You would also need to talk to the people that designed it and ask them what the watermark looks like.

when it comes to understanding the genome and genetic engeniering humans are preety infantyle, all Venter simply coppied and pasted the genome with little modifications (such as shortening some regions) nature is still most efficient at designing genes, all humans are doing do far is swaping them between species or breaking them to see how they work, intracellular signaling is too complex to create new pathways by ourselves (I know I deal with these problems every day in the lab)

and yes I do have access to a pcr machine and a sequencing core, but what he is asking is preety silly, prove to me that cats weren't genetically engeniered by aliens and placed on earth to watch over humans. Unless you know what to look for your can't prove or disprove this claim.

Lastly why are you so pissed? What if they are really genetically engeniered bacteria that are eating oil, do you want oil to polute the gulf? If anything nefarious I would say it's not genetically egeniered but instead selectively grown in a lab like they are trying to make algae that produce oil, or perhaps viruses to transmit oil breakdown genes to natural bacteria, I don't understand why that fightens you so much. Or how you make a leap from oil degrading gene to some sort of superhuman bacteria that kills billions of fish and birds nontheless.

But you know your probably going to ignore me like you ignored the other guy that tried to explain to you rationally that viruses do not "mutate" into bacteria and then bacteria into fungi, I don't know if that guy really said that but if he did, he should be stripped of his title of Doctor. Someone once told me that the first rule of GLP is not to let any evidence or rationalit explanation spoil a good conspiracy, I don't really know why I'm even explaining this to you perhaps I can naively hope to help you realize your claims are exagerated and you shouldn't worry, but I can't stop you from doing something you love, which is scarring yourself with silly doom that any person that knows biology can disprove.
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FAIL
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'Cell Food'is now one of my every day essentials....It's a BRILLIANT HEALER ~And with all the shit TPTW are sending our way we need all the help we can get!!

Sending Love & Living light to you OP hf
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Below is one of my most precious quotes....thought it appropriate to this post ~

The spiritual warrior hides from nothing. We jump into the fire, we dive into the ocean. We become the sea.
~ Charlotte Kasl


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The Gulf Blue Plague (BP)
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THE PERFECT GENETIC STORM
SYNTHETIC DNA & THE GULF BLUE PLAGUE



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[link to blueplague.org]
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bump for the truth
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what an eloquent and convincing argument, you must be very intelligent

in light of this evidence i retract my earlier statements>

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From tomorrow's research paper regarding synthetic genome releases and Horizontal Gene Transfer now occurring in the Gulf of Mexico:

Horizontal gene transfer includes the transfer of genes by infectious viruses (bacteriophages). It has been used by genetic engineers (i.e., Synthetic Genomics, Inc.) to make transgenic organisms. While natural viruses and bacteria respect species barriers, this barrage of artificial genetics made by synthetic biology engineers to eliminate the crude oil and gasses in the Gulf are designed to cross species barriers. This has created NEW viral and bacterial pathogens, and is responsible for the spreading of drug and antibiotic resistant viruses and bacterial outbreaks along the Gulf Coast.

Stay tuned. This synthetic war of artificial genetics is just now showing its ugly face.

[link to blueplague.org]
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from the article:

“Oil-eating bacteria produce bio-films. Studies have found that bio-films are rapidly colonized by other Gram-negative bacteria - including those known to infect humans.”

staphylococcus lugdunensis

this is the diagnosis the lady in the video with the sores.

it is a gram-negative bacteria. and boy is it nasty...

it didn't APPEAR (emerge) until 1988

this isn't accidental.

this is an attempt at genocide.
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Nothing has changed. It's only become worse with Fukushima DNA changing radiation adding to the genetic syn-nano experiment in the Gulf.

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