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Plautus
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Plautus
(OP) User ID: 933740 United States 01/30/2011 10:42 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Interesting theory. How much does a brain transplant cost? Let's say I want one. Who do I go to? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1050857"TIRR Memorial Hermann has been designated as a Traumatic Brain Injury (TBI) Model System with funding by the National Institute on Disability and Rehabilitation Research (NIDRR). The NIDRR TBI Model Systems program began in 1987 and is the largest research program on recovery from TBI in the world. The TBI Model Systems study database is the largest database on traumatic brain injury. The overall goal of the TBI Model Systems program is to conduct research aimed at improving quality of care and outcomes for patients recovering from TBI. Within the program, individuals with TBI who consent to participate in the study are followed for many years after their injuries; some have been followed for more than 18 years." [link to www.memorialhermann.org] Call them, but be prepared for a long wait if you don't have a clone grown already. If you want a clone, find a surrogate mother and contact one of the many livestock cloning labs. They have all the required technology and skill as well as having labs that are virtually free of the dangerous "superbugs" you often find in human clinics. |
Plautus
(OP) User ID: 933740 United States 01/30/2011 11:01 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "Experts look to help heal Giffords' brain circuitry" [link to journalstar.com] "In rare cases, a bullet will track along the inside wall of the skull, following the curve like a bobsled until it bursts through the back wall. Those patients often recover with few problems. The path of the bullet that hit Giffords hasn't been publicly revealed." Last Edited by Plautus on 01/30/2011 11:01 AM |
domesticangel
User ID: 490896 United States 01/30/2011 11:13 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The govt has been cloning since the 30's. Quoting: domesticangelThey have all the spare parts and spare bodies they need. Link? You really think there's a link to that? They've tried really hard keeping that secret. Do you really think they'd put up a website or post a news article? Free your mind and the rest will follow. And be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God...Romans 12:2 BE the change you wish to see in the world. |
Plautus
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SnakeAirlines
User ID: 745407 United States 01/30/2011 12:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The govt has been cloning since the 30's. Quoting: domesticangelThey have all the spare parts and spare bodies they need. Link? You really think there's a link to that? They've tried really hard keeping that secret. Do you really think they'd put up a website or post a news article? But you're so supah kewel that you know allll about it, huh? Aint you special? "Hold my cat while I bring in my tomato plant. That chemtrail looks like an earthquake chemtrail" deanoZXT-07/20/2014 07:48 PM |
Plautus
(OP) User ID: 933740 United States 01/30/2011 03:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "The last time news organizations made a blunder of this magnitude was back in the ‘80s when television networks erroneously reported press secretary James Brady had been killed during an assassination attempt on President Reagan. Curiously, Brady also suffered a debilitating brain wound during the attack." [link to www.murfreesboropost.com] Brady was also 40, the established upper limit for an effective partial brain transplant. Brady was also the first one shot. Was a small caliber "devastator" bullet required to explain the massive damage in Brady's brain? None of the other "devastators" seemed to have functioned. Brady has worked for some pretty sinister mother fuckers, John Connally's press secretary in 1980, assistant to Defense Secretary Rumsfeld in '76-'77. Last Edited by Plautus on 01/30/2011 03:41 PM |
domesticangel
User ID: 6533 United States 01/30/2011 11:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The govt has been cloning since the 30's. Quoting: domesticangelThey have all the spare parts and spare bodies they need. Link? You really think there's a link to that? They've tried really hard keeping that secret. Do you really think they'd put up a website or post a news article? But you're so supah kewel that you know allll about it, huh? Aint you special? Well, I am pretty cool, but no more special than anyone else. We're all special to God. I just know alot of things that others don't and wish to share Free your mind and the rest will follow. And be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God...Romans 12:2 BE the change you wish to see in the world. |
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Plautus
(OP) User ID: 933740 United States 01/31/2011 03:11 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | How do you cut the spinal cord on both and reattach? Obviously the cord and brain can't be left together. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1249930So far as I've been able to tell the most successful method is to do a partial brain transplant, just the parts of the forebrain that govern memory and personality. The rest is redundant stuff that all people learn, how to talk, and walk, know what a bicycle or a toothbrush is, etcetera. Embryonic stem cells are used to "knit" the tissues together. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1202782 United States 01/31/2011 04:04 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The main problem with your idea is that Giffords is still alive and Green is dead...y wouldn't they kill Giffords and keep the kid alive...would be kinda weird to see that 9 yr old alive again... Also, why risk certain death of both for the sake of an extra 30 yrs or so???? There's still the possibility that they BOTH could have died...Giffords was fortunate enough not too, despite a major head wound. Point being: If Green is a clone meant to carry the 30yr old brain of Giffords then, Giffords should be dead and Green alive. And of course, Giffords is going to regress, she got shot in the head!! |
SnakeAirlines
User ID: 745407 United States 01/31/2011 06:14 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I just know alot of things that others don't and wish to share Quoting: domesticangelThen why make up shit about "cloning" that has absolutely no basis in fact? "Hold my cat while I bring in my tomato plant. That chemtrail looks like an earthquake chemtrail" deanoZXT-07/20/2014 07:48 PM |
SnakeAirlines
User ID: 745407 United States 01/31/2011 06:16 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'll grant you that this is possible.. but your still crazy..... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1202782The main problem with your idea is that Giffords is still alive and Green is dead...y wouldn't they kill Giffords and keep the kid alive...would be kinda weird to see that 9 yr old alive again... Also, why risk certain death of both for the sake of an extra 30 yrs or so???? There's still the possibility that they BOTH could have died...Giffords was fortunate enough not too, despite a major head wound. Point being: If Green is a clone meant to carry the 30yr old brain of Giffords then, Giffords should be dead and Green alive. And of course, Giffords is going to regress, she got shot in the head!! Dude...OPie is insane... Don't try to follow his 'logic', or he'll suck you down with him... "Hold my cat while I bring in my tomato plant. That chemtrail looks like an earthquake chemtrail" deanoZXT-07/20/2014 07:48 PM |
domesticangel
User ID: 15234 United States 01/31/2011 12:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I just know alot of things that others don't and wish to share Quoting: domesticangelThen why make up shit about "cloning" that has absolutely no basis in fact? I didn't make it up. If you want to find out for yourself, truck on over to the White House or Area 51 and demand that they let you go down into the underground facility. They might just let you in. But I doubt they let you out. Last Edited by domesticangel on 01/31/2011 12:36 PM Free your mind and the rest will follow. And be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God...Romans 12:2 BE the change you wish to see in the world. |
FatalWishes
User ID: 966335 United States 01/31/2011 12:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I've been exploring this idea a bit in another thread and I thought it was time for this go get its own thread. Quoting: PlautusI think it's possible Giffords has undergone a partial brain transplant into the body of a clone of Giffords born 9 years ago. We've been cloning animals since the sixties, so a human clone is no hurdle today, it's readily accomplished. Sheep farmers have been doing it since the nineties. As far as I know there are no laws against human cloning, but there was a federal funding ban in the United States. As for brain transplants, partial brain transplants have been successful in animals, so doing it in a human is plausible. The main hurdle to overcome is rejection. This rejection is mooted if you transplant into a cloned host. Throw in a few fetal stem cells to knit the brain tissue together and the rest is recovery. If you survive you become a walking advertisement for the service. If you were going to carry this out covertly you'd have some explaining to do. You'd have to explain why the little girl disappeared. Presumably she'd be given a different identity, an adult in a 9 year old's body, the classic "if I knew then what I know now" scenario. You'd also have to explain why the adult's body suddenly underwent massive brain surgery and started acting lobotomized (at worst) or like a 9 year old (if they transplant the child's brain tissue into the adult body instead of throwing it out). All of the technology described is well within our present medical capabilities, all that's required is the will to do so. If you were 31, and were given this option to radically extend your life at the expense of a clone grown just for you, would you take it? You'd have 9 years to think it over and 9 years to grow older all the while knowing that little clone of you is just starting its life. Like, wow man. They should take the warning labels off of everything and let stupidity sort itself out. |
SnakeAirlines
User ID: 745407 United States 01/31/2011 12:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I didn't make it up. Quoting: domesticangelIf you want to find out for yourself, truck on over to the White House or Area 51 and demand that they let you go down into the underground facility. They might just let you in. But I doubt they let you out. The rest of your post proves you did make it up... "Hold my cat while I bring in my tomato plant. That chemtrail looks like an earthquake chemtrail" deanoZXT-07/20/2014 07:48 PM |
Plautus
(OP) User ID: 933740 United States 01/31/2011 12:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Here's a picture of young Green next to a picture of young Giffords: Quoting: Plautusstashbox(dot)org/manage_file/1060776/green-younggiffords.png You don't have permission to manage this file. Sorry about that, I'll fix it: stashbox dot org/1061604/green-younggiffords.png Last Edited by Plautus on 01/31/2011 07:33 PM |
Plautus
(OP) User ID: 933740 United States 01/31/2011 01:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'll grant you that this is possible.. but your still crazy..... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1202782The main problem with your idea is that Giffords is still alive and Green is dead...y wouldn't they kill Giffords and keep the kid alive...would be kinda weird to see that 9 yr old alive again... Also, why risk certain death of both for the sake of an extra 30 yrs or so???? There's still the possibility that they BOTH could have died...Giffords was fortunate enough not too, despite a major head wound. Point being: If Green is a clone meant to carry the 30yr old brain of Giffords then, Giffords should be dead and Green alive. And of course, Giffords is going to regress, she got shot in the head!! How do you know the girl is dead? Your risk assessment is way off, as well. These transplants have been successfully done in other animals, it's very effective. You are viewing all of this through a glass darkly, assuming Giffords was actually shot in the head, assuming the girl was even on the scene or that she was killed. When you base your beliefs only on tabloid headlines and the editorial lies of a bunch of media whores, it's no wonder you fly so far from the mark. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1246824 United States 01/31/2011 01:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'll grant you that this is possible.. but your still crazy..... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1202782The main problem with your idea is that Giffords is still alive and Green is dead...y wouldn't they kill Giffords and keep the kid alive...would be kinda weird to see that 9 yr old alive again... Also, why risk certain death of both for the sake of an extra 30 yrs or so???? There's still the possibility that they BOTH could have died...Giffords was fortunate enough not too, despite a major head wound. Point being: If Green is a clone meant to carry the 30yr old brain of Giffords then, Giffords should be dead and Green alive. And of course, Giffords is going to regress, she got shot in the head!! Dude...OPie is insane... Don't try to follow his 'logic', or he'll suck you down with him... sNAKE, WHAT DO YOU BRING TO THE TABLE OTHER THEN YOURSELF? You still believe Muslims and razor knives? |
SnakeAirlines
User ID: 745407 United States 01/31/2011 01:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | sNAKE, WHAT DO YOU BRING TO THE TABLE OTHER THEN YOURSELF? You still believe Muslims and razor knives? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1246824Nope... I'm pretty sure it was Loughner... "Hold my cat while I bring in my tomato plant. That chemtrail looks like an earthquake chemtrail" deanoZXT-07/20/2014 07:48 PM |
domesticangel
User ID: 494863 United States 01/31/2011 06:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I didn't make it up. Quoting: domesticangelIf you want to find out for yourself, truck on over to the White House or Area 51 and demand that they let you go down into the underground facility. They might just let you in. But I doubt they let you out. The rest of your post proves you did make it up... How so? Since you know so much... Free your mind and the rest will follow. And be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God...Romans 12:2 BE the change you wish to see in the world. |
Plautus
(OP) User ID: 933740 United States 01/31/2011 07:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "But it was her subsequent rapid progress that caused most surprise: being able to bear her own weight; identify colours; scrolling through her husband’s iPad; and holding a pencil. How could the 40 year old through whose brain a bullet had travelled do so well?" [link to www.irishtimes.com] How indeed. "Because of a major crossover of nerve cables in the brain, the left side controls movement on the right side of the body. And while Giffords’ muscles on that side are weak, the fact that she can raise her right fingers is a sign that her dominant hemisphere has retained some function." |
Plautus
(OP) User ID: 933740 United States 01/31/2011 07:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "Weeks after the shooting rampage that left a congresswoman shot through the head, sellers at an Arizona gun show allowed undercover investigators hired by New York City to buy semiautomatic pistols even after they said they probably couldn't pass a background check, Mayor Michael Bloomberg said Monday. Bloomberg has authorized similar sting operations around the country as part of a push for tougher federal laws to help keep guns off the streets of New York." [link to www.google.com] |
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Plautus
(OP) User ID: 933740 United States 02/01/2011 09:58 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "Traumatic brain injuries afflict more than 1.7 million people every year, but the odds of having a recovery like that of U.S. Rep. Gabrielle Giffords’ are slim, according to reports by the CDC." [link to www.hollandsentinel.com] |