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Giffords Brain Transplant Into 9 Year Old Clone

 
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Interesting theory. How much does a brain transplant cost? Let's say I want one. Who do I go to?
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I have yet to find statements made by any of the paramedics on the scene. In particular I've looked for paramedics who "treated" Giffords and Green.
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Interesting theory. How much does a brain transplant cost? Let's say I want one. Who do I go to?
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"TIRR Memorial Hermann has been designated as a Traumatic Brain Injury (TBI) Model System with funding by the National Institute on Disability and Rehabilitation Research (NIDRR). The NIDRR TBI Model Systems program began in 1987 and is the largest research program on recovery from TBI in the world. The TBI Model Systems study database is the largest database on traumatic brain injury.

The overall goal of the TBI Model Systems program is to conduct research aimed at improving quality of care and outcomes for patients recovering from TBI. Within the program, individuals with TBI who consent to participate in the study are followed for many years after their injuries; some have been followed for more than 18 years."

[link to www.memorialhermann.org]

Call them, but be prepared for a long wait if you don't have a clone grown already. If you want a clone, find a surrogate mother and contact one of the many livestock cloning labs. They have all the required technology and skill as well as having labs that are virtually free of the dangerous "superbugs" you often find in human clinics.
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"Experts look to help heal Giffords' brain circuitry"

[link to journalstar.com]

"In rare cases, a bullet will track along the inside wall of the skull, following the curve like a bobsled until it bursts through the back wall. Those patients often recover with few problems.

The path of the bullet that hit Giffords hasn't been publicly revealed."

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The govt has been cloning since the 30's.

They have all the spare parts and spare bodies they need.
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Link?

popcorn
 Quoting: SnakeAirlines



You really think there's a link to that?


They've tried really hard keeping that secret. Do you really think they'd put up a website or post a news article?
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"Workers hang a tarp to hide an entrance from public view at TIRR Memorial Hermann rehabilitation hospital before U.S. Rep. Gabrielle Giffords is transferred to the facility Wednesday."

[link to www.statesman.com]

Why the secrecy in such a high profile case?
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The govt has been cloning since the 30's.

They have all the spare parts and spare bodies they need.
 Quoting: domesticangel


Link?

popcorn
 Quoting: SnakeAirlines



You really think there's a link to that?


They've tried really hard keeping that secret. Do you really think they'd put up a website or post a news article?
 Quoting: domesticangel


But you're so supah kewel that you know allll about it, huh?

Aint you special?

lmao
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"The last time news organizations made a blunder of this magnitude was back in the ‘80s when television networks erroneously reported press secretary James Brady had been killed during an assassination attempt on President Reagan.

Curiously, Brady also suffered a debilitating brain wound during the attack."

[link to www.murfreesboropost.com]

Brady was also 40, the established upper limit for an effective partial brain transplant. Brady was also the first one shot. Was a small caliber "devastator" bullet required to explain the massive damage in Brady's brain? None of the other "devastators" seemed to have functioned.

Brady has worked for some pretty sinister mother fuckers, John Connally's press secretary in 1980, assistant to Defense Secretary Rumsfeld in '76-'77.


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The govt has been cloning since the 30's.

They have all the spare parts and spare bodies they need.
 Quoting: domesticangel


Link?

popcorn
 Quoting: SnakeAirlines



You really think there's a link to that?


They've tried really hard keeping that secret. Do you really think they'd put up a website or post a news article?
 Quoting: domesticangel


But you're so supah kewel that you know allll about it, huh?

Aint you special?

lmao
 Quoting: SnakeAirlines



Well, I am pretty cool, but no more special than anyone else. We're all special to God.

I just know alot of things that others don't and wish to share peace
Free your mind and the rest will follow.

And be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God...Romans 12:2

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Are You some kind of sicko OP??

Obsessing over Giffords Brain is crazy shit!!
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well the issue of the missing girl wouldn't be an issue if they grew her underground.
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Maybe that's the "yearbook" for all the participants in a batch of cloning.

 Quoting: Plautus

bump
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How do you cut the spinal cord on both and reattach? Obviously the cord and brain can't be left together.
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How do you cut the spinal cord on both and reattach? Obviously the cord and brain can't be left together.
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So far as I've been able to tell the most successful method is to do a partial brain transplant, just the parts of the forebrain that govern memory and personality. The rest is redundant stuff that all people learn, how to talk, and walk, know what a bicycle or a toothbrush is, etcetera. Embryonic stem cells are used to "knit" the tissues together.
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Here's a picture of young Green next to a picture of young Giffords:

stashbox(dot)org/manage_file/1060776/green-younggiffords.png

 Quoting: Plautus

You don't have permission to manage this file.
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Interesting link:

[link to cindybythesea.wordpress.com]

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I'll grant you that this is possible.. but your still crazy.....


The main problem with your idea is that Giffords is still alive and Green is dead...y wouldn't they kill Giffords and keep the kid alive...would be kinda weird to see that 9 yr old alive again...

Also, why risk certain death of both for the sake of an extra 30 yrs or so???? There's still the possibility that they BOTH could have died...Giffords was fortunate enough not too, despite a major head wound.

Point being: If Green is a clone meant to carry the 30yr old brain of Giffords then, Giffords should be dead and Green alive. And of course, Giffords is going to regress, she got shot in the head!!
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I just know alot of things that others don't and wish to share
 Quoting: domesticangel


Then why make up shit about "cloning" that has absolutely no basis in fact?
"Hold my cat while I bring in my tomato plant. That chemtrail looks like an earthquake chemtrail"

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I'll grant you that this is possible.. but your still crazy.....


The main problem with your idea is that Giffords is still alive and Green is dead...y wouldn't they kill Giffords and keep the kid alive...would be kinda weird to see that 9 yr old alive again...

Also, why risk certain death of both for the sake of an extra 30 yrs or so???? There's still the possibility that they BOTH could have died...Giffords was fortunate enough not too, despite a major head wound.

Point being: If Green is a clone meant to carry the 30yr old brain of Giffords then, Giffords should be dead and Green alive. And of course, Giffords is going to regress, she got shot in the head!!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1202782


Dude...OPie is insane...

Don't try to follow his 'logic', or he'll suck you down with him...

chuckle
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I just know alot of things that others don't and wish to share
 Quoting: domesticangel


Then why make up shit about "cloning" that has absolutely no basis in fact?
 Quoting: SnakeAirlines



I didn't make it up.

If you want to find out for yourself, truck on over to the White House or Area 51 and demand that they let you go down into the underground facility.

They might just let you in.

But I doubt they let you out.

Last Edited by domesticangel on 01/31/2011 12:36 PM
Free your mind and the rest will follow.

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BE the change you wish to see in the world.
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I've been exploring this idea a bit in another thread and I thought it was time for this go get its own thread.

I think it's possible Giffords has undergone a partial brain transplant into the body of a clone of Giffords born 9 years ago.

We've been cloning animals since the sixties, so a human clone is no hurdle today, it's readily accomplished. Sheep farmers have been doing it since the nineties. As far as I know there are no laws against human cloning, but there was a federal funding ban in the United States.

As for brain transplants, partial brain transplants have been successful in animals, so doing it in a human is plausible. The main hurdle to overcome is rejection. This rejection is mooted if you transplant into a cloned host. Throw in a few fetal stem cells to knit the brain tissue together and the rest is recovery. If you survive you become a walking advertisement for the service.

If you were going to carry this out covertly you'd have some explaining to do. You'd have to explain why the little girl disappeared. Presumably she'd be given a different identity, an adult in a 9 year old's body, the classic "if I knew then what I know now" scenario. You'd also have to explain why the adult's body suddenly underwent massive brain surgery and started acting lobotomized (at worst) or like a 9 year old (if they transplant the child's brain tissue into the adult body instead of throwing it out).

All of the technology described is well within our present medical capabilities, all that's required is the will to do so. If you were 31, and were given this option to radically extend your life at the expense of a clone grown just for you, would you take it? You'd have 9 years to think it over and 9 years to grow older all the while knowing that little clone of you is just starting its life.
 Quoting: Plautus


bonghit

Like, wow man.
They should take the warning labels off of everything and let stupidity sort itself out.
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I didn't make it up.

If you want to find out for yourself, truck on over to the White House or Area 51 and demand that they let you go down into the underground facility.

They might just let you in.

But I doubt they let you out.
 Quoting: domesticangel


The rest of your post proves you did make it up...

lmao
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Here's a picture of young Green next to a picture of young Giffords:

stashbox(dot)org/manage_file/1060776/green-younggiffords.png

 Quoting: Plautus

You don't have permission to manage this file.
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Sorry about that, I'll fix it:

stashbox dot org/1061604/green-younggiffords.png

Last Edited by Plautus on 01/31/2011 07:33 PM
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Re: Giffords Brain Transplant Into 9 Year Old Clone
I'll grant you that this is possible.. but your still crazy.....


The main problem with your idea is that Giffords is still alive and Green is dead...y wouldn't they kill Giffords and keep the kid alive...would be kinda weird to see that 9 yr old alive again...

Also, why risk certain death of both for the sake of an extra 30 yrs or so???? There's still the possibility that they BOTH could have died...Giffords was fortunate enough not too, despite a major head wound.

Point being: If Green is a clone meant to carry the 30yr old brain of Giffords then, Giffords should be dead and Green alive. And of course, Giffords is going to regress, she got shot in the head!!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1202782


How do you know the girl is dead? Your risk assessment is way off, as well. These transplants have been successfully done in other animals, it's very effective. You are viewing all of this through a glass darkly, assuming Giffords was actually shot in the head, assuming the girl was even on the scene or that she was killed. When you base your beliefs only on tabloid headlines and the editorial lies of a bunch of media whores, it's no wonder you fly so far from the mark.
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I'll grant you that this is possible.. but your still crazy.....


The main problem with your idea is that Giffords is still alive and Green is dead...y wouldn't they kill Giffords and keep the kid alive...would be kinda weird to see that 9 yr old alive again...

Also, why risk certain death of both for the sake of an extra 30 yrs or so???? There's still the possibility that they BOTH could have died...Giffords was fortunate enough not too, despite a major head wound.

Point being: If Green is a clone meant to carry the 30yr old brain of Giffords then, Giffords should be dead and Green alive. And of course, Giffords is going to regress, she got shot in the head!!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1202782


Dude...OPie is insane...

Don't try to follow his 'logic', or he'll suck you down with him...

chuckle
 Quoting: SnakeAirlines



sNAKE, WHAT DO YOU BRING TO THE TABLE OTHER THEN YOURSELF? You still believe Muslims and razor knives?
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sNAKE, WHAT DO YOU BRING TO THE TABLE OTHER THEN YOURSELF? You still believe Muslims and razor knives?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1246824


Nope...

I'm pretty sure it was Loughner...
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I didn't make it up.

If you want to find out for yourself, truck on over to the White House or Area 51 and demand that they let you go down into the underground facility.

They might just let you in.

But I doubt they let you out.
 Quoting: domesticangel


The rest of your post proves you did make it up...

lmao
 Quoting: SnakeAirlines


How so? Since you know so much...
Free your mind and the rest will follow.

And be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God...Romans 12:2

BE the change you wish to see in the world.
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"But it was her subsequent rapid progress that caused most surprise: being able to bear her own weight; identify colours; scrolling through her husband’s iPad; and holding a pencil. How could the 40 year old through whose brain a bullet had travelled do so well?"

[link to www.irishtimes.com]

How indeed.

"Because of a major crossover of nerve cables in the brain, the left side controls movement on the right side of the body. And while Giffords’ muscles on that side are weak, the fact that she can raise her right fingers is a sign that her dominant hemisphere has retained some function."
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"Weeks after the shooting rampage that left a congresswoman shot through the head, sellers at an Arizona gun show allowed undercover investigators hired by New York City to buy semiautomatic pistols even after they said they probably couldn't pass a background check, Mayor Michael Bloomberg said Monday.

Bloomberg has authorized similar sting operations around the country as part of a push for tougher federal laws to help keep guns off the streets of New York."

[link to www.google.com]
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bsflag

get a grip man. get away from glp for a while, you need reality break.




wow
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Thank you. At first, I thought it was just me.
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"Traumatic brain injuries afflict more than 1.7 million people every year, but the odds of having a recovery like that of U.S. Rep. Gabrielle Giffords’ are slim, according to reports by the CDC."

[link to www.hollandsentinel.com]





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