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snark
Forum Administrator User ID: 1050548 United States 01/24/2011 09:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Last Edited by snark on 01/24/2011 09:07 PM T For Texas, T For Tennessee! The virtue of courage is a prerequisite for the practice of all other virtues, because otherwise one is virtuous only when virtue has no cost. There are times when something needs to be done, and yet we know that if we step up and do this needful thing, we will pay a heavy personal price. -C.S. Lewis |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 979547 United States 01/24/2011 09:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I love the ending of that.... Quoting: FatalWishesBecause the last thing the Lion King needs is a bunch of gazelles getting all pissed off over so-called inequality. “Can you hear the love tonight?” “No, sorry, I have the antler of an angry gazelle shoved so far up my ass it punctured my eardrum.” Now… would that be fair? Not for the Best Parent Ever. That blog is priceless! When you get a chance, read some of the other entries. I literally LOL'd when I first found it. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 717934 United States 01/24/2011 09:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Sports for kids that are ORGANIZED BY ADULTS need to stop. Let kids alone. Let them organize their own pickup games with their own rules. If I were a coach for either of the teams in that blowout, I'd resolve the situation simply by doing what we would do in a pickup game. After the score got to be 40-0 or so, it would be pretty obvious one team was very outmatched. At that point, I would have stopped the game and awarded the leading team the victory. Then I would have had half the players on the winning team trade places with half the players on the losing team. Swap uniform tops and everything. Now you have two somewhat more BALANCED teams. Now play a casual game for two quarters. This is what we did in schoolyards. We would choose up sides but if one team was clearly kicking the other teams butts, after a while we would just adjust the teams by swapping a player or two to make for a more competitive game. How freakin' difficult is this????? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1141021 Sweden 01/24/2011 09:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's been called unsportsmanlike. It's been called ugly. Quoting: FatalWishesThe winning coach mentioned that he did not have enough players to pull all the starters. That is one way a blow out can be handled shittily. When you cannot lose a game, that is a perfect time to give your bench a chance to get real play time and learn and this will probably slow down the blow out. I do think teams can be pressed to crush opponents, but it doesn't sound like this happened here, given the situation. And I wonder where the controversy is coming from. People here are using this article as an example of the problems of liberalism. But where in this game or in that article is the liberal? Who complained? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1242332 Australia 01/24/2011 09:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You know what? They SHOULD apologize because that will embarassed the other team even more :) "we beat you so bad we had to apologyse for it!" hahaha :) "this was a victory without honor because there is no honor in taking a candy from a baby" hahaha do it :) |
FatalWishes
(OP) User ID: 626707 United States 01/24/2011 09:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ^--- i didn't suggest the winning team did anything wrong Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1242314it was up to the losing team to concede Yes, and I agree. I think forfeit would be a viable option. They should take the warning labels off of everything and let stupidity sort itself out. |
FatalWishes
(OP) User ID: 626707 United States 01/24/2011 09:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Seriously? What's the point in calling the game unless everybody has someplace else they need to be? Do you think the losing team is gonna feel better getting waxed 75-3 vs 108-3? Not. Do you think the losing team is gonna feel better about their skills if the game gets called? Not. All this PC stuff in kids sports is bullshit and burns me up. I played sports in Jr. High and High School and this stuff never happened. We were good too!! Quoting: snarkYer my new friend. They should take the warning labels off of everything and let stupidity sort itself out. |
FatalWishes
(OP) User ID: 626707 United States 01/24/2011 09:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I love the ending of that.... Quoting: FatalWishesBecause the last thing the Lion King needs is a bunch of gazelles getting all pissed off over so-called inequality. “Can you hear the love tonight?” “No, sorry, I have the antler of an angry gazelle shoved so far up my ass it punctured my eardrum.” Now… would that be fair? Not for the Best Parent Ever. That blog is priceless! When you get a chance, read some of the other entries. I literally LOL'd when I first found it. LOL, yeah I was reading the Recession Guide. Funny stuff. They should take the warning labels off of everything and let stupidity sort itself out. |
I Want To Know It All
User ID: 1149260 Canada 01/24/2011 09:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Don't get me started on the self esteem bullshit. Failure is what drives us to do better. Might as well say "go ahead and fail because thats great!" Quoting: *scooter*^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ What scooter said..... You are going to fail 8 out of 10 tries......and succeed 2....that's just life.. I Work --- I Party --- I Live :title222: [link to www.youtube.com] My Theme Song [link to www.youtube.com] How I Define Living |
ajk
User ID: 1114631 United States 01/24/2011 09:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Don't get me started on the self esteem bullshit. Failure is what drives us to do better. Might as well say "go ahead and fail because thats great!" Quoting: *scooter*^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ What scooter said..... You are going to fail 8 out of 10 tries......and succeed 2....that's just life.. Hell in baseball, if you succeed 3 out of every 10 at bats, you bat .300 and that's actually deemed good! No one is perfect. A babe before walking will first stumble and fall many times but NEVER gives up until he succeeds. Always remember, ultimately, to never follow any person's belief. Your relationship with God is between you and God. If nothing else, remember this: religion = subservience, control and conformity, the same template as EVERY government "Most believers would kill truth if truth threatened their religion." L. K. Washburn "This crime called blasphemy was invented by priests for the purpose of defending doctrines not able to take care of themselves." Robert Ingersoll "If anyone wants to know how God feels, it's a warm light as if the sun is poking through dark clouds and lifting your spirits with pure joy." |
FatalWishes
(OP) User ID: 626707 United States 01/24/2011 09:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's been called unsportsmanlike. It's been called ugly. Quoting: FatalWishesThe winning coach mentioned that he did not have enough players to pull all the starters. That is one way a blow out can be handled shittily. When you cannot lose a game, that is a perfect time to give your bench a chance to get real play time and learn and this will probably slow down the blow out. I do think teams can be pressed to crush opponents, but it doesn't sound like this happened here, given the situation. And I wonder where the controversy is coming from. People here are using this article as an example of the problems of liberalism. But where in this game or in that article is the liberal? Who complained? [link to www.google.com] They should take the warning labels off of everything and let stupidity sort itself out. |
FatalWishes
(OP) User ID: 626707 United States 01/24/2011 09:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You know what? They SHOULD apologize because that will embarassed the other team even more :) "we beat you so bad we had to apologyse for it!" hahaha :) "this was a victory without honor because there is no honor in taking a candy from a baby" hahaha do it :) Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1242332hee hee They should take the warning labels off of everything and let stupidity sort itself out. |
Smilin' Irish Eyes
User ID: 656642 United States 01/24/2011 09:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I love the ending of that.... Quoting: FatalWishesBecause the last thing the Lion King needs is a bunch of gazelles getting all pissed off over so-called inequality. “Can you hear the love tonight?” “No, sorry, I have the antler of an angry gazelle shoved so far up my ass it punctured my eardrum.” Now… would that be fair? Not for the Best Parent Ever. That blog is priceless! When you get a chance, read some of the other entries. I literally LOL'd when I first found it. LOL, yeah I was reading the Recession Guide. Funny stuff. It really sucks sometimes having little kids right now. Ours are 5 and 7 years old. My husband and I are the "tough" parents, if they lie, cheat, or hit they get punished. The punishment varies with what they did and their attitude. That blog "the best parent ever" pisses me off; it is the whole touchy feely, never tell your child you're disappointed in them because of their actions, never punish your child, the whole positive reinforcement, ignore the bad action by explaining why they're bad actions. I tell our kids I love them more than all the blades of grass all over the earth, more than all the snowflakes that fall BUT when they do something wrong, we do explain why it is wrong and they are punished. I explain I love them, but I don't like their actions. If they do something good, they are rewarded. But to never punish a child, only do positive reinforcement....grrrrrr...my two oldest nephews were raised by my EX sister-in-law that way...she insisted that they were never told "no", only redirect them, never punish in any form any negative behavior. I still think that the oldest one will one day surpass Jeffrey Dahmer/Charles Manson/Ted Bundy (insert name of whomever you think had no conscious). Even from 2 y/o up to 9 y/o he was an uncontrollable, evil little conniving brat. Now at 22 y/o he hides it better but there is absolutely no light in his eyes. The whole PC thing is most likely to break down the family unit and parental authority, empowering children to make the rules (oops, yes that was another thing my ex SIL did) instead of the parents. Last Edited by Smilin' Irish Eyes on 01/24/2011 09:34 PM Common sense in an uncommon degree is what the world calls wisdom. -- Samuel Taylor Coleridge In seeking wisdom thou art wise; in imagining that thou hast attained it - thou art a fool. -- Lord Chesterfield |
FatalWishes
(OP) User ID: 626707 United States 01/24/2011 09:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I love the ending of that.... Quoting: FatalWishesBecause the last thing the Lion King needs is a bunch of gazelles getting all pissed off over so-called inequality. “Can you hear the love tonight?” “No, sorry, I have the antler of an angry gazelle shoved so far up my ass it punctured my eardrum.” Now… would that be fair? Not for the Best Parent Ever. That blog is priceless! When you get a chance, read some of the other entries. I literally LOL'd when I first found it. LOL, yeah I was reading the Recession Guide. Funny stuff. It really sucks sometimes having little kids right now. Ours are 5 and 7 years old. My husband and I are the "tough" parents, if they lie, cheat, or hit they get punished. The punishment varies with what they did and their attitude. That blog "the best parent ever" pisses me off; it is the whole touchy feely, never tell your child you're disappointed in them because of their actions, never punish your child, the whole positive reinforcement, ignore the bad action by explaining why they're bad actions. I tell our kids I love them more than all the blades of grass all over the earth, more than all the snowflakes that fall BUT when they do something wrong, we do explain why it is wrong and they are punished. I explain I love them, but I don't like their actions. If they do something good, they are rewarded. But to never punish a child, only do positive reinforcement....grrrrrr...my two oldest nephews were raised by my EX sister-in-law that way...she insisted that they were never told "no", only redirect them, never punish in any form any negative behavior. I still think that the oldest one will one day surpass Jeffrey Dahmer/Charles Manson/Ted Bundy (insert name of whomever you think had no conscious). Even from 2 y/o up to 9 y/o he was an uncontrollable, evil little conniving brat. Now at 22 y/o he hides it better but there is absolutely no light in his eyes. The whole PC thing is most likely to break down the family unit and parental authority, empowering children to make the rules (oops, yes that was another thing my ex SIL did) instead of the parents. You bring up a good point. The parents of the losing team have an opportunity to teach. Seems like everybody is a victim in this society. I agree this PC is bad and has gone too far in my book. They should take the warning labels off of everything and let stupidity sort itself out. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 957551 United States 01/24/2011 09:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Holy shit. To me it is not a girl or player problem. Someone had a horrible coach. That coach should be down the road kicking horse turds. Quoting: Ricfly52Unless there's someone that can kick the turd farther... That would just be unsportsmanlike. Everyones the best turd kicker! Everyone gets a trophy! |
He Might Be Right?
User ID: 1194853 Canada 01/24/2011 09:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | difference between a winner and a loser...winners never quit!..I hope the coach gave them shit for not getting 110... Quoting: He Might Be Right?never take your foot off the gas!! 2nd place is the first loser. I like the way you think. Hey FatalWishes I got to thinking about this thread while I was out chopping wood...you know who would be a real winner, the Kid who managed to score the basket to get the other team finally on the board, what was it...like the fourth quarter?...now that kid never gave up!...awesome post 5 stars cause nobody can stop me! Last Edited by He Might Be Right? on 01/24/2011 10:05 PM |
ajk
User ID: 1114631 United States 01/24/2011 10:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | difference between a winner and a loser...winners never quit!..I hope the coach gave them shit for not getting 110... Quoting: He Might Be Right?never take your foot off the gas!! 2nd place is the first loser. I like the way you think. Hey FatalWishes I got to thinking about this thread while I was out chopping wood...you know who would be a real winner, the Kid who managed to score the basket to get the other team finally on the board, what was it...like the fourth quarter?...now that kid never gave out!...awesome post 5 stars cause nobody can stop me! This is exactly what is being lost out when you stop games early and nonsense. Even in a losing effort there can sometimes be a silver lining, in never quitting and playing hard to the end. I particularly hate it in baseball and softball more than the others, because once the score reaches a certain limit, the game flat out ends. And being that this sport is unique being untimed, you rob the losing team of a chance to comeback or at the very least make the score a bit more respectable and give them something to build on for the next game. Further, in a sense you also even rob the winning team since they don't get the chance to really play as much as they should with the garbage time as it were, so as such it can hurt them in tighter games. Less experience for their pitching for example means a greater chance they may falter in a big situation when they're needed badly. The same could be said of lesser used hitters as well. So everyone loses in that aspect. No one is perfect. A babe before walking will first stumble and fall many times but NEVER gives up until he succeeds. Always remember, ultimately, to never follow any person's belief. Your relationship with God is between you and God. If nothing else, remember this: religion = subservience, control and conformity, the same template as EVERY government "Most believers would kill truth if truth threatened their religion." L. K. Washburn "This crime called blasphemy was invented by priests for the purpose of defending doctrines not able to take care of themselves." Robert Ingersoll "If anyone wants to know how God feels, it's a warm light as if the sun is poking through dark clouds and lifting your spirits with pure joy." |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 902829 United States 01/24/2011 10:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | How about the most lopsided college football game ever? It was my school--score is out of control. (222-0) [link to gtalumni.org] Best part: Tech's legendary coach John Heisman fielded two teams, which played alternating quarters against Cumberland. Heisman promised a steak dinner to the team that scored the most points. At halftime, Tech led 126-0; each team had scored 63 points. "You're doing all right, team," Heisman told his players in a rousing, halftime pep talk. "We're ahead. But you just can't tell what those Cumberland players have up their sleeves. They may spring a surprise. Be alert, men! Hit 'em clean, but hit 'em. hard!" |
FatalWishes
(OP) User ID: 626707 United States 01/24/2011 10:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | difference between a winner and a loser...winners never quit!..I hope the coach gave them shit for not getting 110... Quoting: He Might Be Right?never take your foot off the gas!! 2nd place is the first loser. I like the way you think. Hey FatalWishes I got to thinking about this thread while I was out chopping wood...you know who would be a real winner, the Kid who managed to score the basket to get the other team finally on the board, what was it...like the fourth quarter?...now that kid never gave up!...awesome post 5 stars cause nobody can stop me! Yeah you know....even I didn't think about that person that scored on the other team. What an interesting observation. They should take the warning labels off of everything and let stupidity sort itself out. |
ajk
User ID: 1114631 United States 01/24/2011 10:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | How about the most lopsided college football game ever? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 902829It was my school--score is out of control. (222-0) [link to gtalumni.org] Best part: Tech's legendary coach John Heisman fielded two teams, which played alternating quarters against Cumberland. Heisman promised a steak dinner to the team that scored the most points. At halftime, Tech led 126-0; each team had scored 63 points. "You're doing all right, team," Heisman told his players in a rousing, halftime pep talk. "We're ahead. But you just can't tell what those Cumberland players have up their sleeves. They may spring a surprise. Be alert, men! Hit 'em clean, but hit 'em. hard!" Amazing nobody had any hard feelings, imagine that.....we've fallen a long ways in 54 years. No one is perfect. A babe before walking will first stumble and fall many times but NEVER gives up until he succeeds. Always remember, ultimately, to never follow any person's belief. Your relationship with God is between you and God. If nothing else, remember this: religion = subservience, control and conformity, the same template as EVERY government "Most believers would kill truth if truth threatened their religion." L. K. Washburn "This crime called blasphemy was invented by priests for the purpose of defending doctrines not able to take care of themselves." Robert Ingersoll "If anyone wants to know how God feels, it's a warm light as if the sun is poking through dark clouds and lifting your spirits with pure joy." |
FatalWishes
(OP) User ID: 626707 United States 01/24/2011 10:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | How about the most lopsided college football game ever? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 902829It was my school--score is out of control. (222-0) [link to gtalumni.org] Best part: Tech's legendary coach John Heisman fielded two teams, which played alternating quarters against Cumberland. Heisman promised a steak dinner to the team that scored the most points. At halftime, Tech led 126-0; each team had scored 63 points. "You're doing all right, team," Heisman told his players in a rousing, halftime pep talk. "We're ahead. But you just can't tell what those Cumberland players have up their sleeves. They may spring a surprise. Be alert, men! Hit 'em clean, but hit 'em. hard!" Things were certainly different back then. It's cool they met 40 years later. These days those players would be seeing a shrink after a rout like that. They should take the warning labels off of everything and let stupidity sort itself out. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1141021 Sweden 01/24/2011 10:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Quoting: FatalWishes OK. I follwed the link and got lots of hits for what seemed like discussions sites. People on the internet will barely read links and say whatever. I am still trying to get at who in the article complained. The other coach didn't seem to. I didn't see any parents complaining. I see nowhere where IN THIS PARTICULAR INSTANCE someone said the team should have done something else.If I was coaching a team and they were slaughtering another team, of course I would bring in subs. I might also try tricky plays or mix up positions - if I thought these experiences might be valuable for my team. The winning coach specifically addressed the sub issue. The controversy seems hallucinated, here with the idea of attacking liberals. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1242374 United States 01/24/2011 10:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | instead of competition we could use more drugged up hippies peace comes through wanton sex not violent basketball games lets all hold hands and chant the name of our beloved leaders competition only makes people go agro and whacko we should all stop just before the finish line and cross over together as one, and then fuck our sox off |
FatalWishes
(OP) User ID: 626707 United States 01/24/2011 10:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Quoting: FatalWishes OK. I follwed the link and got lots of hits for what seemed like discussions sites. People on the internet will barely read links and say whatever. I am still trying to get at who in the article complained. The other coach didn't seem to. I didn't see any parents complaining. I see nowhere where IN THIS PARTICULAR INSTANCE someone said the team should have done something else.If I was coaching a team and they were slaughtering another team, of course I would bring in subs. I might also try tricky plays or mix up positions - if I thought these experiences might be valuable for my team. The winning coach specifically addressed the sub issue. The controversy seems hallucinated, here with the idea of attacking liberals. Did you watch the video? They should take the warning labels off of everything and let stupidity sort itself out. |
FatalWishes
(OP) User ID: 626707 United States 01/24/2011 10:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | instead of competition we could use more drugged up hippies Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1242374peace comes through wanton sex not violent basketball games lets all hold hands and chant the name of our beloved leaders competition only makes people go agro and whacko we should all stop just before the finish line and cross over together as one, and then fuck our sox off Kinda where we are heading. They should take the warning labels off of everything and let stupidity sort itself out. |
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FatalWishes
(OP) User ID: 626707 United States 01/24/2011 10:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The only legitimate question is how in the hell can a team score only 3 points. As they so eloquently say on the GLP forum: WTF???? Quoting: The Professor 660063More at link. [link to www.nbcdfw.com] Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1188695They scored 0 on this one lol Last Edited by FatalWishes on 01/24/2011 10:39 PM They should take the warning labels off of everything and let stupidity sort itself out. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1141021 Sweden 01/24/2011 10:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Did you watch the video? Quoting: FatalWishesIn some instances a blow out could be unsportsmanlike, but here, naah. If you have a seven footer in junior high school and you are ahead 50 points in the fourth quarter and no one on the other team can stop him and you do not put in your back up center, that's fucked up. If you play a very rough physical game against another team when you are already crushing them - basketball that is - that's unsportsmanlike. There is no need to put injuries on the table if you cannot lose. Here they played well and kept playing well. |
FatalWishes
(OP) User ID: 626707 United States 01/24/2011 10:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Did you watch the video? Quoting: FatalWishesIn some instances a blow out could be unsportsmanlike, but here, naah. If you have a seven footer in junior high school and you are ahead 50 points in the fourth quarter and no one on the other team can stop him and you do not put in your back up center, that's fucked up. If you play a very rough physical game against another team when you are already crushing them - basketball that is - that's unsportsmanlike. There is no need to put injuries on the table if you cannot lose. Here they played well and kept playing well. The video did mention the losing coach did accept the apology. Why would he accept it if there was no complaint? They should take the warning labels off of everything and let stupidity sort itself out. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1141021 Sweden 01/24/2011 10:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | instead of competition we could use more drugged up hippies Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1242374peace comes through wanton sex not violent basketball games lets all hold hands and chant the name of our beloved leaders competition only makes people go agro and whacko we should all stop just before the finish line and cross over together as one, and then fuck our sox off Kinda where we are heading. 1) hippies are not liberals. Liberals all support the system, work, clean clothes, rent, ownership, conspicious consumption and the list goes on and on. 2) liberals love competition. There are just as many ex jock congressmen from the left side of the fence as from the right. Liberals are not calling for the end of college football or any other ludicrous misallocation of interest and funding. They are out there cheering for their alma mater and screaming to get losing coaches fired just like your beloved conservatives. Sure, many hippies were against competition. Are we now afraid of whatever small cliques of aging hippies and young imitators there are out there? I mean, if you are going to feel victimized and predict your demise, at least pick an victimizer with some clout. Man up! |