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It seems the peoples of the world are finally getting tired of gov't corruption. Iceland last year, Greece with their riots, then Tunisia toppling their gov't, now Egypt...who will be next

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..."It is the end of silence, acquiescence and submission to what is happening in our country. It will be the start of a new page in Egypt's history - one of activism and demanding our rights."

The BBC's Jon Leyne in Cairo says the event is a direct response to the campaign that ousted President Ben Ali of Tunisia, in which the internet also played an important part. ...

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Re: Egypt planning through Facebook Tunisian style "day of revolt against torture, poverty, corruption and unemployment".
So what had really started the unrest in Tunisia?

Here is an article:

[link to www.bbc.co.uk]

...A desperate act by a young unemployed man on 17 December triggered a much wider series of protests and clashes with the police.

Mohamed Bouazizi set fire to himself when officials in his town prevented him from selling vegetables on the streets of Sidi Bouzid without permission.

This set off protests about jobs in the town, which has an agriculture-based economy in one of the poorest regions of the country....
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It would be nice if we stopped propping up the Egyptian Government but I cant see that happening somehow.
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Re: Egypt planning through Facebook Tunisian style "day of revolt against torture, poverty, corruption and unemployment".
Sorry OP, I had to vote 'no' for the moment. Not because I don't think other countries will, but right now the lives of most GLP visitors are still very comfortable.
That I am very sure is going to change in the near future. Give it 6 to 12 months & poll again.
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It would be nice if we stopped propping up the Egyptian Government but I cant see that happening somehow.
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Is it propping up or trying to keep a government stable? 1dunno1


Amazing that as an American, I have to read the BBC to find out what is going on around the world. Our media is muzzled in what they report.

Here is another link from the BBC about the possible domino effect on other countries in that region. They break down the countries with the possible likelihood of them repeating what happened in Tunisia. [link to www.bbc.co.uk]
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Re: Egypt planning through Facebook Tunisian style "day of revolt against torture, poverty, corruption and unemployment".
Amazing that as an American, I have to read the BBC to find out what is going on around the world. Our media is muzzled in what they report.

Here is another link from the BBC about the possible domino effect on other countries in that region. They break down the countries with the possible likelihood of them repeating what happened in Tunisia. [link to www.bbc.co.uk]
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"President Hosni Mubarak, 82, has an almost complete monopoly on power, has been in office for three decades and is seeking re-election this autumn."


Elections in September may act as a focal point.

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Re: Egypt planning through Facebook Tunisian style "day of revolt against torture, poverty, corruption and unemployment".
Sorry OP, I had to vote 'no' for the moment. Not because I don't think other countries will, but right now the lives of most GLP visitors are still very comfortable.
That I am very sure is going to change in the near future. Give it 6 to 12 months & poll again.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 948502


Sadly have to agree with you, many are still too comfortable; unless most people are pushed beyond their endurance they will sit back and allow corruption to continue until it effects their lives.
Common sense in an uncommon degree is what the world calls wisdom. -- Samuel Taylor Coleridge

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Amazing that as an American, I have to read the BBC to find out what is going on around the world. Our media is muzzled in what they report.

Here is another link from the BBC about the possible domino effect on other countries in that region. They break down the countries with the possible likelihood of them repeating what happened in Tunisia. [link to www.bbc.co.uk]
 Quoting: Smilin' Irish Eyes


"President Hosni Mubarak, 82, has an almost complete monopoly on power, has been in office for three decades and is seeking re-election this autumn."


Elections in September may act as a focal point.
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Whoa, he has been in office for 30 years? wtf

Maybe this will be another summer of rage.
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Sorry OP, I had to vote 'no' for the moment. Not because I don't think other countries will, but right now the lives of most GLP visitors are still very comfortable.
That I am very sure is going to change in the near future. Give it 6 to 12 months & poll again.
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I second that - actually, although there are protests, these protests have always taken place, especially around election time. The people here aren't united enough to do what happened in Tunisia. And you are correct, too many people are still very comfortable...riots don't happen until people start to starve.
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It would be nice if we stopped propping up the Egyptian Government but I cant see that happening somehow.
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Is it propping up or trying to keep a government stable? 1dunno1


Amazing that as an American, I have to read the BBC to find out what is going on around the world. Our media is muzzled in what they report.

Here is another link from the BBC about the possible domino effect on other countries in that region. They break down the countries with the possible likelihood of them repeating what happened in Tunisia. [link to www.bbc.co.uk]
 Quoting: Smilin' Irish Eyes


Hi Smilin' - I for one think, like most of my egyptian friends, that although yes, Mubarak has been in office for a long time and surely it is no Democracy here and more of a Dictatorship. But he kept the country stable, compared to other arab and african nations. If he gets removed through some kind of revolution (which won't happen, at least not in the near future), then what will follow would be worse.

The corruption in Egypt lies mostly with people in the Ministries and the Police...those should be removed. But then again, if things get totally screwed up and they really do something similar to Tunisia, I'm outta here...just like all the other expats and tourism will collapse, and then the country will see the difference and really suffer...then wish back the old days under Mubarak. He's not the real problem imo.
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It would be nice if we stopped propping up the Egyptian Government but I cant see that happening somehow.
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Is it propping up or trying to keep a government stable? 1dunno1


Amazing that as an American, I have to read the BBC to find out what is going on around the world. Our media is muzzled in what they report.

Here is another link from the BBC about the possible domino effect on other countries in that region. They break down the countries with the possible likelihood of them repeating what happened in Tunisia. [link to www.bbc.co.uk]
 Quoting: Smilin' Irish Eyes


Hi Smilin' - I for one think, like most of my egyptian friends, that although yes, Mubarak has been in office for a long time and surely it is no Democracy here and more of a Dictatorship. But he kept the country stable, compared to other arab and african nations. If he gets removed through some kind of revolution (which won't happen, at least not in the near future), then what will follow would be worse.

The corruption in Egypt lies mostly with people in the Ministries and the Police...those should be removed. But then again, if things get totally screwed up and they really do something similar to Tunisia, I'm outta here...just like all the other expats and tourism will collapse, and then the country will see the difference and really suffer...then wish back the old days under Mubarak. He's not the real problem imo.
 Quoting: Babsi



Thank you for your input. I was really hoping you would see this thread and give your take on what is happening where you live.

So how would your country be able to remove the people in the Ministries and Police? Do you think that Mubarak would be willing to clean up his own government and listen to what the ordinary people are complaining about?
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It would be nice if we stopped propping up the Egyptian Government but I cant see that happening somehow.
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Is it propping up or trying to keep a government stable? 1dunno1


Amazing that as an American, I have to read the BBC to find out what is going on around the world. Our media is muzzled in what they report.

Here is another link from the BBC about the possible domino effect on other countries in that region. They break down the countries with the possible likelihood of them repeating what happened in Tunisia. [link to www.bbc.co.uk]
 Quoting: Smilin' Irish Eyes


Hi Smilin' - I for one think, like most of my egyptian friends, that although yes, Mubarak has been in office for a long time and surely it is no Democracy here and more of a Dictatorship. But he kept the country stable, compared to other arab and african nations. If he gets removed through some kind of revolution (which won't happen, at least not in the near future), then what will follow would be worse.

The corruption in Egypt lies mostly with people in the Ministries and the Police...those should be removed. But then again, if things get totally screwed up and they really do something similar to Tunisia, I'm outta here...just like all the other expats and tourism will collapse, and then the country will see the difference and really suffer...then wish back the old days under Mubarak. He's not the real problem imo.
 Quoting: Babsi



Thank you for your input. I was really hoping you would see this thread and give your take on what is happening where you live.

So how would your country be able to remove the people in the Ministries and Police? Do you think that Mubarak would be willing to clean up his own government and listen to what the ordinary people are complaining about?
 Quoting: Smilin' Irish Eyes


Well, just to get it straight, it's not my country...I can only say what I see with the people around me, mostly business men and women, all educated and either upper middle class or high class. They all agree with me that Mubarak is not the cause or the solution for all the problems. A lot of it has to do with the people themselves. It's a bit complicated and you'd have to live here to see.
The corruption I would say is a large part the police, laws would have to be changed and certain people would have to be removed. I don't know how much Mubarak is still involved in all these little details, he does seem too removed as a President. He's not the President for the people, more for the country and how he's perceived by the west. That is why Tourism is booming. So there's a pro and con to Mubarak - just like any other President.

Oh, and to try to answer you actual question if Mubarak would listen to the people. Well...I can't say for sure, but if he runs again for President, which he will, something will happen anyhow and business will always continue as usual. If his son takes over, Gamal, he seems more like the guy who would actually try to listen to the people and try to make a change. I get flamed by my egyptian friends for saying that because none of them want his son to take over. I (as a foreigner) feel more comfortable with the idea of keeping Mubarak and then his son in power, just to keep things stable. I'm worried of some islamic regime that could make life hell for people like me...and I would have to leave the country then, I can adapt, but I wouldn't want to be suppressed and right now Cairo is very comfortable and very open minded. I wouldn't want that to change.

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From what I could gather, a couple of people I have called, that there are large amounts of people at the Parliament Building, but not any riots. Some stones were thrown but police is on the defensive and not really any clashes what could be considered serious.
Another friend in another part called Mohandaseen said things are quite peaceful, people singing the national anthem. The only thing amazing, that the crowd is quite large. Traffic is moving slower than usual in some parts of Cairo.

We'll see how it develops further - but I think most people will start leaving soon as it's getting dark and more cold now.

So far no Tunisian type revolt.

UPDATE: My friend who was on his way downtown said traffic is being diverted, so nobody can drive downtown due to the large crowds and police presence. He didn't get a look at anything tho.

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Latest: Water cannon used against protestors in Cairo.
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Latest: Water cannon used against protestors in Cairo.
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What is your source for that info? I am now watching CNN and they are saying tear gas has be fired at protesters in front of the parliament bldg. Seems now things are getting more serious in the downtown area.
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Latest: Water cannon used against protestors in Cairo.
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What is your source for that info? I am now watching CNN and they are saying tear gas has be fired at protesters in front of the parliament bldg. Seems now things are getting more serious in the downtown area.
 Quoting: Babsi

[link to www.msnbc.msn.com]

picture and good article -mentions water cannon....

"CAIRO — Protests by thousands of anti-government demonstrators in Egypt's capital are turning violent with police firing tear gas and a water canon to disperse the crowds.

Protesters attacked the water canon truck, opening the driver's door and ordering him out of the vehicle. "
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Latest: Water cannon used against protestors in Cairo.
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What is your source for that info? I am now watching CNN and they are saying tear gas has be fired at protesters in front of the parliament bldg. Seems now things are getting more serious in the downtown area.
 Quoting: Babsi

[link to www.msnbc.msn.com]

picture and good article -mentions water cannon....

"CAIRO — Protests by thousands of anti-government demonstrators in Egypt's capital are turning violent with police firing tear gas and a water canon to disperse the crowds.

Protesters attacked the water canon truck, opening the driver's door and ordering him out of the vehicle. "
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Heilige Scheisse - thanks for that article. I'm completely isolated and have to rely on GLP or CNN for my news.

Thanks for the updates!!

hf
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What is your source for that info? I am now watching CNN and they are saying tear gas has be fired at protesters in front of the parliament bldg. Seems now things are getting more serious in the downtown area.
 Quoting: Babsi

[link to www.msnbc.msn.com]

picture and good article -mentions water cannon....

"CAIRO — Protests by thousands of anti-government demonstrators in Egypt's capital are turning violent with police firing tear gas and a water canon to disperse the crowds.

Protesters attacked the water canon truck, opening the driver's door and ordering him out of the vehicle. "
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 568981


Heilige Scheisse - thanks for that article. I'm completely isolated and have to rely on GLP or CNN for my news.

Thanks for the updates!!

hf
 Quoting: Babsi


Thanks everyone for posting info. Babsi, stay safe and report what you hear locally. Thanks.
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bump Wow, take a day and a half off from GLP and look what happens.

Hoping that Babsi is safe.
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