Why would you believe that the Primitive savages had any wisdom?

Quincy? Wasn't he a pathologist that worked in the coroner's office? If you are lying on Quincy's table, then you are bad shape.

thats not wisdom but a philisophical objective. Given todays population so called crude science will be needed to achieve this.

I agree through sustainability is important regardless of what climate change scienctist you listen to

We have mobile cranes that can lift thousand or so tons. We can acomplish wonders the old world could not even dream of.

[link to www.cranestodaymagazine.com]

Channel tunnel?
Twin towers sky scrappers.

We have moved beyond stone, but could still do that stuff now. I'm not saying that old engineering is not amazing though. To have built some of the worlds wonders with nothing more than stone, wood, rope and people is nothing short of astounding. Again primitive technologically but sophisticated engineering and undertanding of maths and more importantly the newtonian lever (before newton though)

Thats actually really easy. count days between equinox that is easy to detect if you pay attention.

Ha...so they knew about the newtonian lever even before newton was born. That sounds pretty advanced to me

radial symetrical city, it not a plan of the higs detector now is it come give me real challenge. You definition of exactly the same is allot broader than mine but then again as a scientist I can't afford to pedle bullshit

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

common knowledge amongst christianity that world is round circa 400 AD, ha easy one down more to go NEXT

All hail wiki

A Mayan Witch Doctor anyday

Wow you are a dick. What I find offensive about your post is that for even a fraction of second you think I give a shit about you or your bullshit. You are nothing to me.

As for your claims of knowledge of cause of death for 120 year old ancestors well its clearly shit. In the past cause of death was never really determined for many cases.

That said some families are really long lived. People around Osaka and some places in Italy where there is a long life mutation last for ages and do Yoga on the beach in their ninetees.

Regarding your claims of superiority etc I would assume you are some, well, dick for want of a better word and I hope you enjoy your Ignorance. Oh before I forget a national stereotype you fat bastard! you fat bastard! who ate all the pie's.

HA!!!!! awesome I forgot the counting thing!!

Without reading all the posts, and to answer your original question, the unfamiliar and exotic seem to hold mystical power in people's eyes. It's the same reason westerners will buy some strange herb concoction off an old Chinese man or believe that all native americans (red indians to you, Dickie) lived in complete peaceful harmony and had an idyllic existance. Maybe some of the Asian herbs are good. Maybe some Indians led an ideal existance.
But familiarity breeds contempt, so we want to think there is something better than what is before us. I suppose it is a human weakness to think in absolutes.

A little bit of a ramble and hastily written.

Exactley Moley. It's also a hypocracy.They dis the modern world and its intense knowledge, whilst mooning back to some fairy tale land that time forgot.

radial symetrical city = armillary sphere

:armillary:

Hmmm, let's see.. evidence that ancient civilizations had intelligence and wisdom beyond our current consumer society....

Tiahuanaco, Pyramids, Chichen Itza, Puma Punku, Sacsayhuaman, ..

Need I go on?

No surgeon can repair you where they can.

You are such a simpleton.

How did the tribe know of the planetary bodies before us?

How did they build them? Where did they get the man power? The motivation? The reasoning? What was the purpose of the stonework? How long did it take? Where did they get the resources? How did they transfer them? Who did the designs/architecture? Why is the architecture perfect? Why is there not similar perfect architecture built by similar means now? Why does the stonework correlate with astronomical cycles? What is the connection between astronomy and the stonework? Why do you consider yourself smarter, but have no clue about any of this?

That's the easy part, my friend, quit fooling yourself, you'll feel much better when you give in to those impulses telling you you don't know anything.

Because if you fail to do that after the transition, then there will be virtually no chance for you.

What's rubbish about the fact that they did not need telescopes?

You are making things up and becoming emotional to prove your point? Then your point is not intellectual in nature.

The current humans are definitely too stupid to live harmoniously with the nature they love and are a part of.

So where did the primitive ones of the past make the same mistake? You think because they're not here they failed?

Guess what. They finished early.

Why do clocks and calenders have to be adjusted?

How would you adjust a calendar made out of stone many years ago?

Again, why are you using words like dopey and talking about squatting in loin cloths?

Do you feel you have a bone to pick with these people?

If so, they have matured and intellectually dominated you beyond anything you can intellectually match.

There is not one bit of difference between the brain capacity of humans during the time of the Mayans and us.
We both also seem to suffer from the same level of arrogance.

They in predicting events thousands of years in the future, and we in thinking that we would see it coming now with our evolved intelligence.

A few thousands of years is nothing in human evolution.

Why would YOU believe in "Primitive Savages"?

What makes you so sure the people back then were primative savages???

The ones who have to kill others to get their point across are called "terrorists", I believe.

Why do modern people kill themselves with firewater?

Why was this not a problem in the past? They definitely knew how to induce altered states.

What if these savages had entertainment, which was more like exercise compared to today?

What if the entertainment of today was more like moral degradation?

What if the "load" is determined by it's sustenance, and the information regarded here is actually a pathway to higher and more stable consciousness and harmony with the universe?

What if you call things you don't understand fables, don't even mention WHAT about them is symbolic, and consider yourself right without even beginning to learn?

Who's smarter?

All your hard intellectual work has resulted in you acting and thinking like a child.

Trust me, you have many more times to go until you get it.

When you get it, none of that will matter to you how it does now. IE: your ego will have healed.