**Well Look At This!! Marines Training For Martial Law!** | |
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Mia
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1242428 United States 01/26/2011 10:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The tax money spent to build a 300 acre fake city for training to take over American cities, seize private property, and take american prisoners to FEMA camps. "Along with what they can plainly see, Marines in training will search for escape tunnels, hiding places, weapons caches and other dangerous spaces. The facility has almost 1,900 feet of underground tunnels, a manmade riverbed and dozens of courtyards and compounds... Similar immersion training facilities are slated to open this year at Marine Corps bases in North Carolina, Hawaii and Okinawa." [link to www.msnbc.msn.com] You can't run and you can't hide from martial law. Looks like a year or two away. |
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User ID: 1244853 United States 01/26/2011 10:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Not really. MOUNT training is keeping Marines alive when the President sends them into harms way. The problem is the President issues the orders. If you fear Marines patrolling your block, you trust your president about as much as I do. However, I do believe that you will see Marines refusing to obey orders that are unlawful & unconstitutional. It just made so much sense when the Marines were the good guys fighting to protect our country and our way of life. Unconstitutional wars by Bush and Obama are to blame. Leave my Marine Corp alone. Push the button light the match, Feel the fault lines detach; Crosshairs in the evening light, I sit and watch the city burn tonight. |
Mia
(OP) User ID: 1185503 United States 01/26/2011 10:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Not really. MOUNT training is keeping Marines alive when the President sends them into harms way. The problem is the President issues the orders. If you fear Marines patrolling your block, you trust your president about as much as I do. Quoting: .::HoLYWaR::.However, I do believe that you will see Marines refusing to obey orders that are unlawful & unconstitutional. It just made so much sense when the Marines were the good guys fighting to protect our country and our way of life. Unconstitutional wars by Bush and Obama are to blame. Leave my Marine Corp alone. No, not bashing the Marine Corp. I am Navy. I honestly don't think they know what they are training for, and if they did know, maybe they are just going along with the training.. but won't do what they're told in an unlawful situation. |
Gloomy
User ID: 1222777 United States 01/26/2011 10:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Not really. MOUNT training is keeping Marines alive when the President sends them into harms way. The problem is the President issues the orders. If you fear Marines patrolling your block, you trust your president about as much as I do. Quoting: .::HoLYWaR::.However, I do believe that you will see Marines refusing to obey orders that are unlawful & unconstitutional. It just made so much sense when the Marines were the good guys fighting to protect our country and our way of life. Unconstitutional wars by Bush and Obama are to blame. Leave my Marine Corp alone. Bullshit, they've done experiments with people torturing other people all because an authority figure told them to. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1242428 United States 01/26/2011 10:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If this training was necessary for the mission, they would have been built long ago. The mission is about to change, thus three new training facilities for 15,000 troops each with a 170 million price tag. If you are blinded to this I am sorry. Former AF, and I know when they build this many new training centers it is for a reason. Not just urban warfare, because there are many of those already. |
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User ID: 1244853 United States 01/26/2011 10:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I could not disagree with you more. MOUNT Training comes after hard lessons learned in Vietnam with house to house room clearing. Marines need this type of training to know how to stay alive if they are in these situations, which would more likely be NEO, rescue missions, since the first plan of attack to clear a building full of enemies would be to blow up the building and not risk lives. But that what Marines do, risk their lives. It's really sad that a brother in arms cannot see things for what they really are. Push the button light the match, Feel the fault lines detach; Crosshairs in the evening light, I sit and watch the city burn tonight. |
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User ID: 1244853 United States 01/26/2011 11:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If this training was necessary for the mission, they would have been built long ago. Quoting: JohntarazThe mission is about to change, thus three new training facilities for 15,000 troops each with a 170 million price tag. If you are blinded to this I am sorry. Former AF, and I know when they build this many new training centers it is for a reason. Not just urban warfare, because there are many of those already. Your crazy! When I was in 1st Bat 3rd Marines.. We had a big golf ball to train in. In Okinowa, we had a very small "combat town" covering now more than a couple acres, in Quantico.. nothing. They need a 170 million dollar combat town, give it to them. It will save lives. Compared to all the other shit govt spends money on. This is money well spent. Marines take Pride in protecting the country, alot of Blood was shed to protect our way of live.. After you have had some fucking draft dodging, flag burning, false flag, usurping socialist Presidents over the past 16 years, you distrust the Marine Corp? Last Edited by .::HoLYWaR::. on 01/26/2011 11:06 PM Push the button light the match, Feel the fault lines detach; Crosshairs in the evening light, I sit and watch the city burn tonight. |
Art Smass User ID: 1244697 United States 01/26/2011 11:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If anyone knows the location of the facilities for the, "Military-Coup-And-Violent-Overthrow-Of-The-Assholes-In-D.C." training program, let me know. I'd like to show up with some sandwiches and cold drinks. Just doin' my part as a good citizen. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1242428 United States 01/26/2011 11:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I could not disagree with you more. Quoting: .::HoLYWaR::.MOUNT Training comes after hard lessons learned in Vietnam with house to house room clearing. Marines need this type of training to know how to stay alive if they are in these situations, which would more likely be NEO, rescue missions, since the first plan of attack to clear a building full of enemies would be to blow up the building and not risk lives. But that what Marines do, risk their lives. It's really sad that a brother in arms cannot see things for what they really are. The training facility has mock-up hotels, businesses, homes, stores, etc. I don't see these in any current operations theatre. Did you read the source? They will be training for operations in modern cities. If they were doing mock-ups of mud huts and caves I might agree with you. 45,000 troops trained per 8-10 weeks at 3 facilities. If that isn't a gear-up for something I would love to know what it is. Nam was a long time ago, lessons learned? |
Operative
User ID: 711379 United States 01/26/2011 11:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Quoting: Mia Did you even read your own link?? Marines Training For Martial Law.... You Retards just make Bullshit up and act like it's real..WTF is that?? |
Mia
(OP) User ID: 1185503 United States 01/26/2011 11:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Quoting: Mia Did you even read your own link?? Marines Training For Martial Law.... You Retards just make Bullshit up and act like it's real..WTF is that?? Yeah I read it. I read between the lines too. It is MSN ya know. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1242428 United States 01/26/2011 11:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Quoting: Mia Did you even read your own link?? Marines Training For Martial Law.... You Retards just make Bullshit up and act like it's real..WTF is that?? "The fake markets, hotels and other businesses" [link to www.msnbc.msn.com] Great insults and analysis. Prove your point, or can you only react, not actually think. |
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User ID: 1244946 France 01/26/2011 11:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I could not disagree with you more. Quoting: .::HoLYWaR::.MOUNT Training comes after hard lessons learned in Vietnam with house to house room clearing. Marines need this type of training to know how to stay alive if they are in these situations, which would more likely be NEO, rescue missions, since the first plan of attack to clear a building full of enemies would be to blow up the building and not risk lives. But that what Marines do, risk their lives. It's really sad that a brother in arms cannot see things for what they really are. The training facility has mock-up hotels, businesses, homes, stores, etc. I don't see these in any current operations theatre. Did you read the source? They will be training for operations in modern cities. If they were doing mock-ups of mud huts and caves I might agree with you. 45,000 troops trained per 8-10 weeks at 3 facilities. If that isn't a gear-up for something I would love to know what it is. Nam was a long time ago, lessons learned? Lesson learned meaning there was a huge loss of life in Vietnam when the fighting went room to room. Room clearing & MOUNT operations are the last type of mission you want to go on. High death / casualties. The tactics have changed since Nam. In the end, training is needed to teach teams interlocking fields of fire, base fire, indirect fire, breaching, room clearing, hand and arm signals, ect, ect, ect. so that you do not have as many deaths as we had in nam. As for the facility itself...The buildings have four walls and some windows, you can imagine them to be anything you like. . . maybe if you try really hard, you could imagine one of the concrete building to be a luxury hotel and some fine hotty spread eagle waiting to take it like a bad girl.. Cave to cave fighting? Are you serious? Just shoot into the hole from 500 meters away. Last Edited by .::HoLYWaR::. on 01/26/2011 11:21 PM Push the button light the match, Feel the fault lines detach; Crosshairs in the evening light, I sit and watch the city burn tonight. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1237771 United States 01/26/2011 11:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Quoting: Mia Did you even read your own link?? Marines Training For Martial Law.... You Retards just make Bullshit up and act like it's real..WTF is that?? "The fake markets, hotels and other businesses" [link to www.msnbc.msn.com] Great insults and analysis. Prove your point, or can you only react, not actually think. The normal training a Marine takes MORE than covers any situation that would arise under marshall law. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 522752 United States 01/26/2011 11:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | That will probably start this year, and when politicians state they can say what they want to and infer their whims in either political party, it is time that the USA says "NO" no matter if some people think they can do what they want to with their anti-social agenda they state that it is not. B.S. and to the rest of them, go to Hell! |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1242428 United States 01/26/2011 11:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Quoting: .::HoLYWaR::. Lesson learned meaning there was a huge loss of life in Vietnam when the fighting went room to room. Room clearing & MOUNT operations are the last type of mission you want to go on. High death / casualties. The tactics have changed since Nam. The buildings has four walls and some windows, you can imagine them to anything you like. In the end, training is needed to teach team interlocking fields of fire, base fire, indirect fire, breaching, room clearing, hand and arm signals, ect, ect, ect. Cave to cave fighting? Are you serious? Just shoot into the hole from 500 meters away. I understand the need for a cohesive, skilled, platoon of troops. I know your devotion to the corps, my dad was a marine, believe me I know. I am not accusing the marines of being anything other than the bravest and most honorable. But this is a new development and it is very concerning. And my belief that this much training for that many troops is an alarm bell. These are preparations for a new or anticipated mission involving having at least a million or more troops trained for modern urban city patrol and combat in the next two years. |
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User ID: 1244946 France 01/26/2011 11:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "mock Afghan villages" Quoting: sum_peepsMaybe for martial law in Afghanistan, but not here. Reading comprehension fail. With fucking balconies on every roof. Shooting from a spire must suck. Push the button light the match, Feel the fault lines detach; Crosshairs in the evening light, I sit and watch the city burn tonight. |
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User ID: 1213463 United States 01/26/2011 11:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | From the article: "Along with what they can plainly see, Marines in training will search for escape tunnels, hiding places, weapons caches and other dangerous spaces." Well, there goes my plans to install a hidden bookcase in the house with an open snake pit! Back to the "drawing board"! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1047759 Canada 01/26/2011 11:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "mock Afghan villages" Quoting: sum_peepsMaybe for martial law in Afghanistan, but not here. Reading comprehension fail. I didn't think their villages were this large? [link to ourbabybehr.com] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1239815 United States 01/26/2011 11:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I like this part "The fake markets, hotels and other businesses are complete with actors who create scenarios that pose a full range of challenges from humanitarian relief efforts to peacekeeping to police work and direct combat, according to the Marine Corps." Humanitarian relief efforts? Since when has any urban city in the world ever benefited from marines storming the city buildings? |
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User ID: 1244946 France 01/26/2011 11:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Quoting: .::HoLYWaR::. Lesson learned meaning there was a huge loss of life in Vietnam when the fighting went room to room. Room clearing & MOUNT operations are the last type of mission you want to go on. High death / casualties. The tactics have changed since Nam. The buildings has four walls and some windows, you can imagine them to anything you like. In the end, training is needed to teach team interlocking fields of fire, base fire, indirect fire, breaching, room clearing, hand and arm signals, ect, ect, ect. Cave to cave fighting? Are you serious? Just shoot into the hole from 500 meters away. I understand the need for a cohesive, skilled, platoon of troops. I know your devotion to the corps, my dad was a marine, believe me I know. I am not accusing the marines of being anything other than the bravest and most honorable. But this is a new development and it is very concerning. And my belief that this much training for that many troops is an alarm bell. These are preparations for a new or anticipated mission involving having at least a million or more troops trained for modern urban city patrol and combat in the next two years. Then connect the dots. I think this undeclared war like the island hopping of WWII. As such, I never believed Afghanistan to be the goal. I have believed since 9/11 that there is at least 1 more target. Iraq to Afghanistan to America does not make sense. Iraq to Afghanistan to Iran makes more sense. Push the button light the match, Feel the fault lines detach; Crosshairs in the evening light, I sit and watch the city burn tonight. |