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To those who think no one is harming Christians in Egypt.... UPDATE eyewitness accounts

 
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the article in Pravda about Putin worrying about Christians in Egypt was weeks before this event in Egypt happened.
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So you believe that the United States of America is a Christian country right? I mean we have God splashed all over our money and our national anthem and our holidays are christian, and our national polls show that the majority of people in the country consider themselves Christian, Right? So I would like to have you consider something for one moment. Lets pretend if you can, that you were born in oh I don't know, another country like the middle east or Vietnam. And most of your life you live simple, work hard have a nice family, go to religious services and generally try to be a good guy. Suddenly you hear that your country is going to be invaded by a Christian country, a very powerful Christian country. You have heard of Christians and known a couple pretty good people, but you know that their beliefs are in another God that is false, that they are deceived by the great Satan. The next thing you know soldiers are shooting people, bombing your neighbors and friends, and all you can think is, it is true, they do want to take over the world and implement their ways on us, their believes, their laws......

Oh btw, it came out not long ago that many of our guns we were using had actual scriptures on the gun sites. Oh believe me, you may not think that Christians are killing, but from a Muslim perspective, the view is much, much different. We a Christian Nation, are killing Muslims. Ask a Jew about the Nazi soldiers singing Christmas songs at the interment camps, everyone thinks they are innocent.

Oh and just for the record, I am on the side of none. I think all killing is shit, and wish people could truly find love in their hearts.
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That's a nice story. You should publish it. But it does not truthfully represent the situation at hand.

This is not a Christian nation. Not for some time. And not all the Founders and original settlers were Christian either.

"Thou shalt not murder". Remember that? That's a commandment. I think the killing is shit too.
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For those who pray, please pray for the safety of those in Egypt and throughout the world - no matter the religion.


But right now, I am most worried for the Christians and missionaries in the Middle East.
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If these missionaries would stay home and not try to force their religion down the everyone's throat we wouldn't have to worry about thier safty. They should get their house in order first.
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SHut up idiot.

The time of people with your attitude and understanding leading the world is quickly coming to a close.
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OP still doesn't get the concept of false-flag ops as in the burning of the churches he refers to. It was regular Muslims that surrounded a Christian church service a few weeks ago to PROTECT them from supposed-Muslims and any false-flag attack.
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Well you need to tell that to all the evangelical Christian Arabs that say Allah meaning the god of the bible, oh I also guess that I should let you know while were at it that the name Jesus is totally made up, it bears more resemblance to Zeus than the the dude you worship in the bible. Oh and look at Christians worshiping on pagan holidays like Christmas and Easter, they eat pork and all kinds of other shit that is forbidden by their own bible. The average Christian no more resembles the worship in the bible than the ancient pagans....Pointing fingers might make you want to look at yourself first. Pleaaaase people, go do serious research, I mean leave the country and go live with real live people in other countries to see how they talk, live, love and work.....Learn other languages, stop reading shit on the internet that someone made up.
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His name is Yeshua. And the pagan holiday worship is not the tradition of every confessing Christian. Have you ever heard of Messianics?
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peace and protection

hf

hope you are ready for the storm Riker!

We are supposed to get all ice here in Maryland. Won't be going to see Punx. Phil this year!
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Thank you !!! hf

It hasn't started here yet but it's supposed to soon. Right on time too; my bday is Thursday and it's always cold and blustery weather :-)
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The religion of Islam has as its focus of worship a deity by the name of "Allah." The Muslims claim that Allah in pre-Islamic times was the biblical God of the Patriarchs, prophets, and apostles. The issue is thus one of continuity. Was "Allah" the biblical God or a pagan god in Arabia during pre-Islamic times?

Archaeologists have uncovered temples to the Moon-god throughout the Middle East. From the mountains of Turkey to the banks of the Nile, the most wide-spread religion of the ancient world was the worship of the Moon-god.

In the first literate civilization, the Sumerians have left us thousands of clay tablets in which they described their religious beliefs.

The pagan Arabs worshipped the Moon-god Allah by praying toward Mecca several times a day; making a pilgrimage to Mecca; running around the temple of the Moon-god called the Kabah; kissing the black stone; killing an animal in sacrifice to the Moon-god; throwing stones at the devil; fasting for the month which begins and ends with the crescent moon; giving alms to the poor, etc.

The Muslim's claim that Allah is the God of the Bible and that Islam arose from the religion of the prophets and apostles is refuted by solid, overwhelming archeological evidence. Islam is nothing more than a revival of the ancient Moon-god cult. It has taken the symbols, the rites, the ceremonies, and even the name of its god from the ancient pagan religion of the Moon-god.
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Well you need to tell that to all the evangelical Christian Arabs that say Allah meaning the god of the bible, oh I also guess that I should let you know while were at it that the name Jesus is totally made up, it bears more resemblance to Zeus than the the dude you worship in the bible. Oh and look at Christians worshiping on pagan holidays like Christmas and Easter, they eat pork and all kinds of other shit that is forbidden by their own bible. The average Christian no more resembles the worship in the bible than the ancient pagans....Pointing fingers might make you want to look at yourself first. Pleaaaase people, go do serious research, I mean leave the country and go live with real live people in other countries to see how they talk, live, love and work.....Learn other languages, stop reading shit on the internet that someone made up.
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And that is exactly what scares away serious thinkers from the religion.I am in no way a serious thinker and even I notice this and choose not to become a part of it or any other religion.
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Geez, don't let the mistakes of people who don't take the Truth seriously keep you from searching for it!
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the article in Pravda about Putin worrying about Christians in Egypt was weeks before this event in Egypt happened.
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It is a valid worry.
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For those who pray, please pray for the safety of those in Egypt and throughout the world - no matter the religion.


But right now, I am most worried for the Christians and missionaries in the Middle East.
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If these missionaries would stay home and not try to force their religion down the everyone's throat we wouldn't have to worry about thier safty. They should get their house in order first.
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THEY ARE EGYPTIAN CHRISTIANS MORAN
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You've purposefully changed the issue into something pointless. The whole thing you've worked hard at distorting in all your idiocy is your saying - "The crusades kill them so now it serves them right" my counter point was- if you're going to justify that, then you should feel fine about native american indians massacring people for what happened to them. - not a point of how well they would fare in war( you mindless stupid fuck) because there aren't enough in numbers to kill everybody in the u.s.a. And you think your stupid self smart. Pfffft....suck on..
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(this is the husband of the one you've been arguing with, hence the same IP, but a different person)
What I find most laughable about all your arguing here is how you can't seem to post anything without trying to help your cause by childishly calling names. It's as if you're a 3rd grader trying to make yourself look tougher by using 'big-kid words' to help your cause, when in fact it just makes you look like a childish bully.

Ah well, whatever makes you feel superior...
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hi this is Iron's wife. Same ip- different person. I want to tell you that since he/ Iron can't punch you in the mouth as he would like to or kick your kidneys and make you piss blood, and he isn't going to scream and yell disrupting his household, he's going to type some harsh foul words. Please try to understand. Ok? Thank you!_________________________________ Hello sir. This is Iron's neighbor. I just come over to borrow some eggs. ----------------------------------------------- well hello. This is loke's grandmother. That boy better not be cussing up the place. He got the tar whipped out of him as a little boy for that. I'm 96 y/o and I'll tear that boys ass up with a whip if I hear it!---------------------------------------------- Good evening sir. This is his parole officer. I would like to know what the hell is going on here so I can send his ass back for good this time._______________________________ Hi this is Ron Jeremy. If you think he types foul here, you should hear his mouth during filming.---------------------------------------- hello I'm Al Sharpton and I think I'm on the wrong thread.


chuckle

I've been staying out of it but that was freaking funny.
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Last Edited by Riker on 01/31/2011 08:00 PM
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Never EVER let that happen again. See why people get so mad?
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Thanks for the trip down memory lane. No seriously. Great song... great decade. Here is the original video from back when MTV actually played music.


"God forbid we should ever be 20 years without such a rebellion. The people cannot be all, & always, well informed... If they remain quiet under such misconceptions it is a lethargy, the forerunner of death to the public liberty... Let them take arms... What signify a few lives lost in a century or two? The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots & tyrants. " - Thomas Jefferson in 1787
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 Quoting: Riker

Never EVER let that happen again. See why people get so mad?
 Quoting: 69Ironfinish

hey, step back a moment.

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01/31/2011 10:21 PM
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 Quoting: Riker

Never EVER let that happen again. See why people get so mad?
 Quoting: 69Ironfinish

hey, step back a moment.

What does your heart desire?
 Quoting: Shamar

Lol that was a joke.
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OP, you are a tool, and a stupid one at that.
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For those who pray, please pray for the safety of those in Egypt and throughout the world - no matter the religion.


But right now, I am most worried for the Christians and missionaries in the Middle East.
 Quoting: Riker


If these missionaries would stay home and not try to force their religion down the everyone's throat we wouldn't have to worry about thier safty. They should get their house in order first.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1241193


THEY ARE EGYPTIAN CHRISTIANS MORAN
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+100
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 Quoting: Riker

Never EVER let that happen again. See why people get so mad?
 Quoting: 69Ironfinish


chuckle
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OP, you are a tool, and a stupid one at that.
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Received an update today:

Eye-Witness Account from Egypt

Dear Friends,

Egypt is finding its way towards more freedom, but please don't believe what the international media is saying! There is a plot to topple the president, and Egyptians do not want that. I have been on the streets with many hundreds of thousands, probably even millions, who want stability, dialogue, and change with Mubarak until the elections in September. There are forces taking advantage of the situation and twisting facts and figures to portray to the international community a distorted image to topple the government. The vast majority of people in the streets in peaceful demonstrations (I speak as an eyewitness because I took to the streets myself) are carrying banners saying things like:

- yes to stability, yes to Mubarak

- give change a chance

- we are sorry Mr. president

- we accept dialogue, we trust you

- no to El-Baradei, no to the muslim brotherhood (many like this one)

- we are the Egyptians, where is Al-Jazeera, let them come and see

- no to corruption, no to vandalism

- we got what we asked the president for, so why are people still in Tahrir? Who are they? What do they want? etc., etc., etc.

We met with people who were in the original protest in Tahrir square who decided to join us saying: we got what we asked for, and now we accept Mubarak's changes and proposals. I left the street with my wife around 4:15 pm, and the numbers in the neighbourhood of Mohandessin where the crowds were gathered had swelled to easily over a million. As we drove home we saw the same slogans on banners all over the city, on cars, on walls, on shop windows. We learned that similar demonstrations are taking place ALL OVER THE COUNTRY, IN MANY DIFFERENT CITIES. THIS IS THE CRY OF THE PEOPLE OF EGYPT THAT IS BEING TOTALLY IGNORED BY THE INTERNATIONAL NEWS MEDIA. Is this on purpose??!!! I am perplexed!!!

I am wondering: How come CNN, the BBC, and others are reporting ONLY the anti-government protests as the voice of the people? This is not JUSTICE, this is not the TRUTH. There have been reports that these people are being paid by the government. NOT TRUE! I was there with many, many others. I SAW THE STREETS. Now to the situation in Tahrir square. Only a few people (hundreds?) are still there from the original protesters. They have been slowly replaced by other HIGHLY ORGANIZED GROUPS. They all have the same model of cell phones. They all have the same blankets (eye witnesses). THESE ARE NOT THE PEOPLE OF EGYPT.

Some witnesses claim that they don't look Egyptians, and don't sound Egyptians (different accent, different dialect). THIS IS A BIG ORGANIZED COUP TO TRY TO CONVINCE THE WORLD THROUGH THE MEDIA THAT EGYPT WANTS MUBARAK TO GO, AND THE MEDIA IS PART OF THE DECEPTION. People in Tahrir square are escalating the situation on purpose to topple President Mubarak FOR THEIR OWN HIDDEN AGENDAS. This is TYPICAL OF THE MUSLIM BROTHERS, AND EVERYBODY IN THE STREETS OF CAIRO KNOWS THIS. We heard people on the streets saying that the plot to take over the country is now clear. THE INTERNATIONAL MEDIA DOESN'T WANT YOU TO KNOW THIS.

The escalation of violence in Tahrir square is because of this. Egyptians who love Egypt, the millions that took to the streets yesterday, want this to end. They fully understand that president Mubarak is between a rock and a hard place, that he cannot quench the unrest in Tahrir through the army, so the people want to go to Tahrir to disperse the crowds there by themselves. People in Tahrir are vastly outnumbered. If Egyptians go the Tahrir square to take control of the situation, more chaos will erupt, giving a chance to the international media to blame the President even more.

Don't believe an opportunist like Mohammed El-Baradei who is deceiving the international community into putting pressure on president Mubarak to leave immediately so they can fulfill their own agendas. Franklin Roosevelt said, "Nothing happens by accident in politics. If it happened, somebody made it happen." And this is NOT what Egyptians want! I am an Egyptian. My wife and I were on the streets on Tuesday and Wednesday in support of the current regime, and we saw millions on the streets. If Egypt falls, then neighbouring countries are going to fall one after the other. Someone is behind this!

Please help us uncover the deception and spread the truth. Please share with everybody.

XXXXXXX



Dear Intercessors,

We have been following the events carefully as they unfold in Egypt and across the Middle East. As usual, things aren't always as they seem in political circumstances. Below you'll find an email that I received from a witness on the ground in Egypt. This is a grave situation. Leaders from Egypt have been calling and beseeching us for intercession for their nation. From their perspective, the Christians are in grave danger if Mubarak leaves, as they feel he has kept the radical extremists at bay.

Here are some prayer points:

1. Pray that God will reveal every secret plot the Muslim Brotherhood has in Egypt.

2. Pray that every scheme that is Al Quaeda backed will be exposed in all levels of Egyptian culture, including the police.

3. Pray for protection of Christians across the Middle East

4. Pray for a smooth transition to a secular government.

5. Pray that the military of Egypt will not stand with pro-Muslim Brotherhood factions.

6. Pray that factions will not blow up the oil pipeline and that the Suez Canal will stay open for international commerce.

7. Pray that this Islamist revolution will not be successful and that they will not be able to establish an Islamic Caliphate.

8. Pray for protection for Israel from the terrorists that would sneak across the border into Gaza while the borders are unguarded.

9. Pray for comfort and peace for those who have been caught up in the midst of their nations being destabilized.

10. Pray for a movement of unified fasting and prayer to sweep across the believers in Jesus and powerfully impact the Middle East.

11. Pray for an Isaiah 19 highway of holiness to be established.

12. Pray for a Great Awakening to take place, with thousands of souls swept into the Kingdom of God.

Standing in the gap!

XXXXXXX
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ISIAIh 41 BRING forth your IDOLS did they PREACH to you see they can’t speak they can’t DO ANYTHING all they do is cause confusion. spalms 115 and spalms 135 thier IDOLS are FALSE cant speak can't hear cant smell and those that make them shall become like them. Jeremiah 10 they nail their IDOL down like a scarecrow it can’t move can'...t speak can’t move must be carried these are nothing but the WORK of CON men.john 10 jesus christ sais his sheep hear his voice and another voice thy will not follow and if another person tries to preach to them they WILL FLEE from him. jeremiah 5 the priests bear rule on their own authority what will you do when your judged my word is not inside them. Now here is the kicker john 5 son of man voice goes back in time mathew 16 jesus christ claims to be the son of man.‎1 cor2 mind of CHRIST preached internally and john 16 sais the spirit of truth comes in the future. Ezekiel 13 lying prophets of ISRAEL my word is not inside them saying god sais god sais god sais wrote hoping mankind would CONFIRM their WORDS. all of this is EASILY verifiable.





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