The secret to escaping the cycle of reincarnation and be truly free.

Thread: I broke out of the Matrix last night! Ask away. (Page 21)

Reincarnation doesn't exist you idiot.

Mum???

Wow! this concept totally fits in my life! Because i hella hate the monetary system, because i can feel the evil in money! And I have invented a new religion: I have invented a religion called anti-life! Anti-life is the belief that it is wrong to reproduce and have children at this time because the world has too many challenges and hardships. Where did you get this info? and what is limbo???

Read Gita by Krisna.Almost same teachings.

I agree with this. several places I have read to not go into the white light after death... i have heard there is a soft blue light that one may otherwise chose to enter. I shall enter neither and become one with the void. I do not like this terrible place and shall not play their game, for good nor for evil.

we'll all meet in Limbo and start a new GLP...and try to enlighten those who come through by guarding the lights from anyone going into them...

You are close to being finished when you live a life of Neutrality, recognizing and honoring the paths of others and letting people be. Letting people have their 'stuff' without it affecting you. And, by living an Impeccable life.

However, wanting to finish up and never come back puts pressure on the game. So when it gets hard, really hard, kick yourself and remember, you picked it this way because something inside of you said you could be done this life. Finished! Basta! Never to return!

On children and karma: Ever feel like your partner is a child and you are raising them? See it at as gift, for perhaps you lost this child in an earlier life and are now being giving the opportunity to share in the learning and love that was lost. Now you get to heal your broken heart.

We are all being given an incredible opportunity to make things right. To get free of this sticky karma stuff. There are no mistakes in this vast universe. None.

Many people today are on their last life. Be happy for them. Do not get angry at them for not wanting to resist, fight, engage... Love yourself, and Love Them. By Loving Yourself, You Honor Divine Creator.

Soon, very soon you will be ready for a new experience!

When you get there you will be amazed at how brightly your light shines!!

So you're saying to get out of the reincarnation business one needs to spend foolishly, live recklessly, and be totally and ungratefully selfish? hmmmm, may i ask what are you smoking these days?

There is only one time through space, both bookends are eternity. While here if the Presence communes with you, that is the Door out from the soul structure locked in the current flow of all the past as it spherically floods down and inward toward the one infinitely kinetic, infinitesimal singularity.

you said that during your last life too.

sometimes I feel as though I am on GLP for a reason and that I read certain threads for a reason...

I cant believe this was posted... i was just thinking about this..


thank you.

Please restate this using more understandable verbiage. TIA.

+1

OP may be right. I've somehow known not to procreate and the money game seems incredibly ridiculous.

Wishful thinking.

HEBREWS 9: 27

27 And as it is appointed unto men ONCE to die, but after this the judgment:

28 So Christ was once offered to bear the sins of many;
and unto them that look for him shall he appear
the second time without sin unto salvation.

We will all die ONCE unless we are alive at HIS coming.

MANY will die twice. The second death.

If you are not written in the Lamb's book of life,
you will be among them.

No reincarnation.
No second chances.

If that were true, then Jesus Christ,
who created Heaven and Earth is a liar.

And He cannot lie.
There is NO darkness in Him AT ALL.

But Lucifer can lie.
And he does continually.
He is the father of lies.

So you decide where the notion of reincarnation comes from.

reincarnation is for heathens, flesh bodies die once. there are no elephant gods either, while were at it.

The procreation aspect is How they(Dark Forces) Trap Ones Soul in this Plane of Existance in this Universe/MultiVerse.

Then there are Those Souls that came from the OmniVerse Where God's Throne Exists to do the Will ofr God Almighty/The Creator.

The cosmos it said to have a fixed level of energy and matter ...that is active and interacts. So whatever you choose to believe in here, the reality is you can't really control or change the universal system to any great degree.

Think about it we and even the earth we live..represent a very small spec in the greater expanses of space, whether we live or die is not really of any great importance or significance...except to us, because we have the ability to pose the question and think we are.

It's strange to finally realise that none of us actually have great choice or freedom (as life energies), as it is often random probability. Only living in physical relms and dimensions do we have that small option, chance and ability of having both choice and control (to a small degree)..but only for a short perios of time (until we physically die). Then we are back to the fold again (and no that is not religious or controlled by higher beings).

Hope the truth makes sense to you all

Really now.

What if you're the REAL evil that needs correcting? Nevermind outside forces.




ALL addictions are a problem, including money.

Desire for power, control and rule over others are bigger hindrances. These are the causes of ALL the ills in the world if you care to look deep enough.



Not true, it's not that important. And believe it or not, you have no control or real say over the matter.

Most people fates and thus destiny are already written.

Participation in one's escape from the cycle happens WILLfully, few there be that exercise their WILL to do that.

Afterall aren't you merely repeating what you've heard in a book?

Why would someone use the term Samsara for example? Where did you get that from, your imagination? Are you really sure that YOU discovered anything?



You are the evil force, we all are, we're here for a reason, and it's not because we are good.

Nothing controls the force here, it is of itself. Ultimately for our benefit.

People like to think of things as a punishment/reward system. It's not it's a process.


One long ass TRIBULATION....which leads to PURIFICATION in the bigger picture.



Again people have no say in the reincarnation PROCESS. It is a Fate sealed.

In fact truth be told if there was a say, then more people who believe in reincarnation having children with the expressed desire to end this PROCESS would quickly improve the world no end.

People wouldn't NEED to incarnate here anymore.

However as it stands they do and they WILL.


Those things come from the soul.

It's the spirit that witnesses and experiences the suffering.



It's not a game, and you have no say in the matter.

EVERYTHING even what you believe now, and your presence here on this forum is preordained.

You think Deja Vu doesn't exist?


What did Jesus do? he lived his life to fulfill the scriptures. His fate and destiny written many years before he was born.

IT IS THE SAME FOR ALL OF US. We're just ignorant of it.

However escape from here must happen willfully, which means understanding for start what I've mentioned here. That understanding doesn't come easily, mainly because it is hidden by your own beliefs getting in the road. Yes people's own pride and desire to be RIGHT hides the truth from them. A cruel fate, but just.

Hence why I don't argue with people or debate. To do that would mean that I desire to control and rule over you, which is actually the reason WHY we are here in the first place. To get over that desire.

You may want to think carefully about your intentions in your reply.

Hence the old humility is the key saying.

People must WILL the change into their lives. So then the created fate(things of the past, like opinions, attitude, etc, etc) guide you towards your new destiny.





People have no say in that. You don't even get to know you are dead.

The After-Life, the pre-incarnation period is merely a prep for the next life here. It is not a fully conscious experience like actual life, otherwise there wouldn't be any purpose to being here to begin with.





There's no evil faction outside of yourself, it's not like the movies you know.

We are here for a reason, ultimately for our betterment.

Our lack of perfection is what keeps us trapped.




Doesn't exist.





You're not a soul and you're not free.

You are spirit trapped within the contents of the soul.

Hence the reason why people actually THINK they ARE souls. They are not the same.

That is the guiding hand towards your destiny. Which is reincarnation.

Until you learn to break free from the soul, and as a SPIRIT learn to start using your WILL.




Doesn't exist, interesting concept though.




The opposite is true.

And trust me. NO ONE controls the cycle of incarnation. That works like clock work, it was designed for a purpose, and that is to heal us. So we can once again return to eternity.



YOU are the game.



Doesn't make a difference to anything. Learning how to raise a child might just be part of someone's spiritual development actually.

I haven't got any, so saying to people not to raise a child would be foolish. I know not of what people need.

Though I imagine giving love to a child, and a child receiving love is highly beneficial for most people.

People who know that sort of love in the world can only go on to help others.





We trapped ourselves, or better to say that our previous actions ended up with us being put here.

You don't remember your previous incarnations, so you wouldn't remember where you were before this whole incarnation process started.

Let's just say we ALL broke the one commandment, and started to oppress our brothers and sisters in what people call heaven. There was a war and we lost. It's even mentioned in some of our holy books, but again it is a theme that pervades our works of fiction as well, since the knowledge of it is buried deep within ALL of us..

We ABUSED our FREE WILL to try and control others, thinking that we were better and superior, and more beautiful than our brothers and sisters in Heaven.

What we desired in Heaven, we now have here on Earth.
Not as pretty sight is it?

With all the sexism, fascism, racism, war, genocide, etc, etc.


Of course the Great Spirit could of stopped all this, but why would he?

He gave us FREEWILL in Heaven.

Here on Earth we have a limited WILL and we don't even us it, we are controlled and lead on by the contents of the SOUL, via it's thoughts and desires, and it is our attachment to that, that cause us to reincarnation.

What do you see on this Earth today? What are people learning, What are people fight For, and Against. What do people crave?

What would happen if we put all the people with superior
attitudes, obsessions, warmongers, and all other faults back into heaven?

They'd soon get cast out again, when all the old behaviours kick back into play.

Do you really think that just because you merely believe and have faith in something, that WILL wash away your attitudes and wrong opinions?

Be ye TRANSFORMED, RENEWING of the MIND(aka spirit)
Bring the FORMER things into REMEMBERANCE.

No one goes upto heaven without first come down from heaven.

REPENT meaning TURN AWAY from wrong behaviours and attitudes.


Resurrection meaning RISE UP back to heaven again.



Just look now on this forum, how many claim to be special?

Those that claim to be prophets, and witnesses, and speakers for god. Again exalting themselves above their brothers and sisters here on Earth. Just exactly like we did when back in Heaven.

So, what has changed huh?

We worship, wealth, fame, celebrity, we desire to be powerful, and desire to rule over others. We like to war, hurt, harm, and steal. We judge others based on race, gender, sexuality, ability, belief.

What do you think experiencing these things for ourselves might teach us?

That one commandment we broke in Heaven?

Love thy brother and sister.

We broke that and we we cast out, just like how we do to people when they break our laws and cast them into prison.

AS ABOVE SO BELOW.

But yet, because our brothers and sisters in Heaven do love us, THEY created this place to help us redeem ourselves, not out of punishment, or some judgement, but because they want us back.

That's what they did with their FREE WILL. Look at what we do even with our limited WILL.

Do not confuse FREE WILL for FREE CHOICE either.

God thought of the universe and WILLED it into existence, that is FREE WILL, and we can't even WILL ourselves to help ourselves or others.

Luke 15:10, "There is joy in the presence of the angels of God over ONE sinner that repenteth."

Matthew 22:29-30, "Ye do err, not knowing the scriptures, nor the power of God. For in the resurrection they neither marry, nor are given in marriage, but are AS THE ANGELS of God in heaven."

WE ARE THE FALLEN ANGELS.

cheating is not how you overcome
this clusterfuck we live in should prove to you we arent doing what we are supposed to.

On earth as it is in Heaven. What are you doing to make it so?
I suspect the minimum and are surprised we get the minimum in return.
ROFL
funny as can be if it werent so sad.

The secret to escaping samsara is to realize it (and the "you" that is subject to it) does not actually exist.

I applaud you
well done

Easier said then done. I walked the path of Shurat Shabd Yoga.. Was to hard for me after 5 years.

The only thing i agree with is that i won't go in the fucking light all damn new age gurus are saying go to the light, go to the light,go to the light.

I say no because they are going to get you Barbara...

Seriously light attract fly like cheese attract mices and i ain't going to go there i know deep in my hearth it is a trap.

Those MF who put me here are in that damn light and you can bet my ass they have a hierarchy system just like here on hurt oupss earth.