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User ID: 1288830 United States 03/14/2011 02:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | We are extremely ignorant as a species about the realities of life in this universe much less the spiritual realm. You may think you know, or you may have faith, but believe me you don't have a clue. Get ready for a big surprise. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1296274 United States 03/14/2011 03:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | And you really KNOW how it works ?? Quoting: Fishy6We are extremely ignorant as a species about the realities of life in this universe much less the spiritual realm. You may think you know, or you may have faith, but believe me you don't have a clue. Get ready for a big surprise. hmm. i remember the place before i was born. i remember other times. are ye trying to say i should pay no attention to my own experiences and just "trust" ye? |
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(OP) User ID: 1293454 United States 03/14/2011 03:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Reincarnation is a dumb idea imo Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1296335I suppose one short life span to get it right, and then an eternal torment if not, this makes more sense? I don't think so!! ___________ If it expects or demands worship, it is not divine!! Last Edited by HardTruth on 03/14/2011 03:09 PM |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1296335 United States 03/14/2011 03:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Reincarnation is a dumb idea imo Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1296335I suppose one short life span to get it right, and then an eternal torment if not, this makes more sense? I don't think so!! ___________ If it expects or demands worship, it is not divine!! Reincarnation beats hellfire, but getting it perfect beats reincarnation. |
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(OP) User ID: 1293454 United States 03/14/2011 03:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Reincarnation is a dumb idea imo Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1296335I suppose one short life span to get it right, and then an eternal torment if not, this makes more sense? I don't think so!! ___________ If it expects or demands worship, it is not divine!! Reincarnation beats hellfire, but getting it perfect beats reincarnation. You'll get no argument from me on that!! But nobody gets it perfect the first time!! ___________ If it expects or demands worship, it is not divine!! |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1139990 United States 03/14/2011 03:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Reincarnation is a dumb idea imo Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1296335??? What's dumb about coming back and re-living your life to fix your mistakes from a past one. IMO... Thinking that Loving caring God/father would give his children only one chance to do good or he would banish them all to eternity in hell is a pretty stupid opinion..... |
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User ID: 1288830 United States 03/14/2011 03:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | And you really KNOW how it works ?? Quoting: Fishy6We are extremely ignorant as a species about the realities of life in this universe much less the spiritual realm. You may think you know, or you may have faith, but believe me you don't have a clue. Get ready for a big surprise. hmm. i remember the place before i was born. i remember other times. are ye trying to say i should pay no attention to my own experiences and just "trust" ye? Sorry I dont want to bring anybody down, these are just my take on the human species so take them with a grain of salt. The mortal experience happens in our minds. 100% of it. All of it. Just because you think you remember an event pre birth or an event from yesterday does not mean it actually happened. Studies have shown that humans can not tell the difference between reality and a false or suggested memory. I have a friend that was schizophrenic that used to sit on a park bench and watch monsters walk by all day and he thought they were real too. Were they actually there ?? I dont know. Maybe for him, but not for me or maybe I just could not tap into his sense of reality. People just try to reduce truth in reality to a simple formula and there is nothing simple about IMO. Born Die born die born over and over again until you get it right ?? Maybe for some but not for everybody IMO. Boring anyway. Got into a discussion with a friend about all of these physicist trying to define the laws of universe with mathematical formulas developed in the material world, but my question was if God is infinite and or the universe is infinite how can you solve the big riddle with a finite formula. Yes I believe in Karma and I think you could be reincarnated, but I also think you could go to heaven or hell or maybe to a totally different reality that is so far from our comprehension we could not even discuss it here logically. Us humans, our experience, our souls, the universe and the spirit of universal life is not black and white. It has an infinite number of shades of gray, so I just dont think you can put our existence in a box and put a label it. The 64 million dollar question everybody wants to know is why are we here, and that too IMO has a multitude of answers so deep we can not comprehend but a small part of it. One thing I do believe is that as a species on this earth we are special, but we just dont know why yet. More lately I am beginning to believe we create a large part of your own destiny/reality through faith. If believe in reincarnation and you want to be reborn you will. If you want to move on to heaven you will. If you are inherently evil and pact with the devil and resign yourself to hell, well you will probably go there. Unfortunately the human experience is so limited in understanding that we really only have our faith to rely on. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1296335 United States 03/14/2011 03:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Reincarnation is a dumb idea imo Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1296335If you don't get your lessons, you get to take the class again......:( ...and fail over and over and over again. I like the idea of cosmic capital punishment for underachievers. Limited space on the planet you know.. |
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User ID: 1288260 Turkey 03/14/2011 03:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | List of bad ideas-- 1.create multiple religions each saying it is right the others are wrong 2.send people to hell for all eternity (even the courts give you time off for good behaviour)for a lifetime of "sin" 3.define "sin" as eating a fruit from a tree-eating a pig-drinking alcohol-having sex(for some reason other species on earth are not covered by this one)-killing,unless it is at the request of the political leadership of the group 4.reincarnation-if and only if I cant remember my past lives to learn from them. HT I always love your posts. And I agree that reincarnation is the rule-even though I can't remember past lives.But my take on this is as follows-eternity in hell for a lifetime of "sin" or eternity in heaven for a lifetime of prayer is just silly and unfair.So thats out I have had enough strange -very strange-events occur that I realize that there is more to life than physical reality.Again reincarnation works in this picture. However-I do not think reincarnation is a good deal for us. I view it as a form of slavery.We HAVE to come back HERE? Why can't I reincarnate on a planet that actually has sane people-sane policies on it? We keep coming back to this place and deal with the same problems we always had because the GAME is RIGGED. No one person can change the system or create a a system that works for all humanity without either getting shot or the designed system getting absorbed into the grand game. Its rigged.And not in our favor. So while I agree with reincarnation-I do not think its as benign as people make it out to be. I know enough to know that I know nothing |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 744051 United States 03/14/2011 03:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I met a man in NY who told me that he knew me and my brother in many of our past lives. When I asked him about myself in past lives, he said that I was always something of a black widow. I took offense at this, however, now some 20 years later. The father of my kids is in prison for stalking me and when he gets out, he will make an attempt on my life. So, kind of makes me wonder. It does seem to be lining up that way in this life. |
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(OP) User ID: 1293454 United States 03/14/2011 04:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | List of bad ideas-- Quoting: Dervish1.create multiple religions each saying it is right the others are wrong 2.send people to hell for all eternity (even the courts give you time off for good behaviour)for a lifetime of "sin" 3.define "sin" as eating a fruit from a tree-eating a pig-drinking alcohol-having sex(for some reason other species on earth are not covered by this one)-killing,unless it is at the request of the political leadership of the group 4.reincarnation-if and only if I cant remember my past lives to learn from them. HT I always love your posts. And I agree that reincarnation is the rule-even though I can't remember past lives.But my take on this is as follows-eternity in hell for a lifetime of "sin" or eternity in heaven for a lifetime of prayer is just silly and unfair.So thats out I have had enough strange -very strange-events occur that I realize that there is more to life than physical reality.Again reincarnation works in this picture. However-I do not think reincarnation is a good deal for us. I view it as a form of slavery.We HAVE to come back HERE? Why can't I reincarnate on a planet that actually has sane people-sane policies on it? We keep coming back to this place and deal with the same problems we always had because the GAME is RIGGED. No one person can change the system or create a a system that works for all humanity without either getting shot or the designed system getting absorbed into the grand game. Its rigged.And not in our favor. So while I agree with reincarnation-I do not think its as benign as people make it out to be. I don't like the Idea of reincarnation over and over again either, especially with memories erased or stolen, but I'll take it over the eternal torment BS!! I personally think Earth's astral realm has been taken over by dark forces, and uses reincarnation to keep us here as slaves, which isn't what its intended design was to be used for!! So yes, its been rigged!! ___________ If it expects or demands worship, it is not divine!! |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 738932 United States 03/14/2011 04:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | List of bad ideas-- Quoting: Dervish1.create multiple religions each saying it is right the others are wrong 2.send people to hell for all eternity (even the courts give you time off for good behaviour)for a lifetime of "sin" 3.define "sin" as eating a fruit from a tree-eating a pig-drinking alcohol-having sex(for some reason other species on earth are not covered by this one)-killing,unless it is at the request of the political leadership of the group 4.reincarnation-if and only if I cant remember my past lives to learn from them. HT I always love your posts. And I agree that reincarnation is the rule-even though I can't remember past lives.But my take on this is as follows-eternity in hell for a lifetime of "sin" or eternity in heaven for a lifetime of prayer is just silly and unfair.So thats out I have had enough strange -very strange-events occur that I realize that there is more to life than physical reality.Again reincarnation works in this picture. However-I do not think reincarnation is a good deal for us. I view it as a form of slavery.We HAVE to come back HERE? Why can't I reincarnate on a planet that actually has sane people-sane policies on it? We keep coming back to this place and deal with the same problems we always had because the GAME is RIGGED. No one person can change the system or create a a system that works for all humanity without either getting shot or the designed system getting absorbed into the grand game. Its rigged.And not in our favor. So while I agree with reincarnation-I do not think its as benign as people make it out to be. Why? Nobody is forcing you to reincarnate. We come back out of the desire to prove we can overcome our weaknesses and shortcomings. Trust me, the end result is worth it. I'd come back here a million times if that's what it took... |
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(OP) User ID: 1293454 United States 03/14/2011 04:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Reincarnation contradicts resurrection and is lie of Satan to cause confusion. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1294792I guess that makes your Jesus a liar when he said John the Baptist used to be Elijah!! ___________ If it expects or demands worship, it is not divine!! |