CHRISTIANS: What exactly is "the Gospel"? I know it means "good news" but what does that mean?

The gospel is the story of Jesus life, from his birth to his death and resurrection.

The good news is that you can have life eternal through Yahoshua haMoshiach, if you choose Him as your King and believe that He died for you, and resurrected, and if you repent of wrong doings. He will come again, to rule on this earth...soon. Choose this day whom you will serve, a man cannot have two masters.

Last Edited by If You Only Knew on 03/16/2011 06:20 PM

The Gospel, or "good news," is that Christ died and took the punishment for your sins, so that whosoever believes in Him will have everlasting life.

It means its the only way to cross over to what is next and while here, to live abundantly. Gospel of Jesus Christ, basically his birth cruxifiction and resurrection allows the above.

What's this "Yahoshua haMoshiach" crap? You a pretentious ass trying to sound important.

ITS THIS...Or IS it??

(Its how most christians present it today and how most of them act today...read thw whole thing...you might WAKE UP..this goes for the christians I am talking about as well..

REPENT.


GOD LOVES YOU SO MUCH THAT HE HAD HIS SON TORTURED TO DEATH SO THAT WHOEVER BELIEVES WILL GO TO HEAVEN BUT THOSE WHO DONT WILL BE TORTURED ALIVE IN A BLAZING PIT FOR ETERNITY...THAT IN HIS INFINITE MERCY AND LOVE..HE WILL LET YOU FEELY WALK INTO...CAUSE HE WONT FORCE YOU...BUT HE IS QUITE HAPPY TO HAVE GIVEN YOU NO OTHER ALTERNATIVE...LOVE HIM OR BE TORTURED IN THE MOST HIDEOUS MANNER....THATS HOW MUCH HE LOVES YOU!!!!!

REPENT..HIS LOVE AND MERCY ENDURES FOREVER.....


Then..after you have had the living SHIT scared out of you and you have been TERRORISED into "Loving god" or being sadisticallt TORTURED forever...


Then you also have to do this..ALL the chriatians swear by it because its what they DO...so it MUST be right...

1)First ya have to say a sinners prayer. (You already DID that..you know..in sheer TERROR at what awaits if ya didnt..)

2)Then you have to go to church three times a week(At least)..each time giving ten percent of whats in your wallet to the fat dude up the front who drives luxury cars and lives in a mansion.

3)Then you have to learn to hate everyone else thats NOT a fundie seeing them as doomed and not worth your trouble to love or help or feed..as ALL your time and money gets dedicated to the fat greedy pastor up the front..

4)After a while you have to learn to HATE all other fundies or denominations with a PASSION and see THEM as wrong and DOOMED as well..if they so much as disagree with your denominations view on what day to worship..or what to eat..or the rapture debate..or even if adam had a belly button. (Ive seen churches coime apart over this..seriously)

5)You also must LOOK like the world...dress like the world..act like the world...set your church up to look like a rock concert hall..and fornicate and divorce and sleep around with all the women in the church..all the while condemning others of the world who do this. In short..you have to be as CLOSE as possible to what the world IS..but EXCUSE all your "Sins" with the "Im not perfect..just forgiven CRAP"

After doing all of this..THEN..you just might..according to THEM..be worthy of heaven.

But we all KNOW God cant be like this..even though MOST christians ARE..

let me explain...

If someone repents because they heard that God is going to have them satanically tortured forever and ever in a place HE created JUST for that purpose....IS their conversion out of LOVE or TERROR??

Its like me forcing a woman to LOVE me..cause if she does NOT..I am going to have her skinned alive SLOOOOWLY over a period of years.

Where is the LOVE in that??

But thats what YOU are saying is the so called "FREE CHOICE" God is offering us..LOVE him or be HORRIBLY BURNT ALIVE in NEVER ENDING UNTOLD AGONY..

Yeah..thats LOVE..not..

And saying crap like.."WE CHOOSE to go there is CRAP"...

If faced with loving someone or being skinned alive over a period of months..which one would YOU choose???

And if this person TOLD you the alternative..what would you THINK of them??..not much eh??

The whole TURN or BURN makes GOD out to be A BILLION TIMES MORE EVIL THAN SATAN....

TORTURE IS EVIL..yes or NO??

IF you say YES...you have just called god EVIL...IF you say NO...you are a pshycopathic FREAK..and so is GOD..

SO..the ONLY option which FITS Gods TRUE character..is that there IS NO HELL AS WE HAVE HAD IT TAUGHT...there is NO other option.

This is the Good News:

Genesis 3:22 And the LORD God said, Behold, the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil: and now, lest he put forth his hand, and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live for ever:

God is not willing that any should perish. We are all sinners, He wants us to acknowledge that, repent and do our best to follow Him.

the good news is that jesus is cumming

The Good News? Anyone that calls upon the name of Jesus will be saved!

Today is the day of choice, by your free will....there will be a day when whether one likes it or not, "Every knee will bow and every tongue confess that Jesus Christ IS Lord! It will be undeniable, because even those that have denied will see clearly, it will be a sad day for those that have seen the signs and refused to heed the warnings.

The earth is groaning right now.....in pains of childbirth, readying to reveal the birth of the new creation. Labor is intense and painful, the pains get closer and closer.

The GREAT news is that childbirth doesn't last forever, it is a time of travail, but then comes the joy of new life.

For the saints, this requires patient endurance....for the rest, please consider the joy that can be yours.

I pray that we may all be strengthened by the power of His might and comforted by the Holy Spirit.


Romans 8
18I consider that our present sufferings are not worth comparing with the glory that will be revealed in us. 19The creation waits in eager expectation for the sons of God to be revealed. 20For the creation was subjected to frustration, not by its own choice, but by the will of the one who subjected it, in hope 21thati the creation itself will be liberated from its bondage to decay and brought into the glorious freedom of the children of God.

22We know that the whole creation has been groaning as in the pains of childbirth right up to the present time. 23Not only so, but we ourselves, who have the firstfruits of the Spirit, groan inwardly as we wait eagerly for our adoption as sons, the redemption of our bodies. 24For in this hope we were saved. But hope that is seen is no hope at all. Who hopes for what he already has? 25But if we hope for what we do not yet have, we wait for it patiently.
26In the same way, the Spirit helps us in our weakness. We do not know what we ought to pray for, but the Spirit himself intercedes for us with groans that words cannot express. 27And he who searches our hearts knows the mind of the Spirit, because the Spirit intercedes for the saints in accordance with God’s will.

More Than Conquerors

28And we know that in all things God works for the good of those who love him, who have been called according to his purpose. 29For those God foreknew he also predestined to be conformed to the likeness of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brothers. 30And those he predestined, he also called; those he called, he also justified; those he justified, he also glorified.

31What, then, shall we say in response to this? If God is for us, who can be against us? 32He who did not spare his own Son, but gave him up for us all—how will he not also, along with him, graciously give us all things? 33Who will bring any charge against those whom God has chosen? It is God who justifies. 34Who is he that condemns? Christ Jesus, who died—more than that, who was raised to life—is at the right hand of God and is also interceding for us. 35Who shall separate us from the love of Christ? Shall trouble or hardship or persecution or famine or nakedness or danger or sword? 36As it is written:

“For your sake we face death all day long;

we are considered as sheep to be slaughtered.”

37No, in all these things we are more than conquerors through him who loved us. 38For I am convinced that neither death nor life, neither angels nor demons,m neither the present nor the future, nor any powers, 39neither height nor depth, nor anything else in all creation, will be able to separate us from the love of God that is in Christ Jesus our Lord.

^^^^THIS^^^^ is the Good News

So, at the most basic level, the "good news" of the Gospel is just that because of Jesus Christ living and dying on the cross for my sins and being rose again by the will of God, I am saved from the punishment that should have happened as a result of my sins? I just have to admit that I am a sinner so that I recognize my shortcomings and don't try to hide them from God and myself? Is that what confession of sins means? Admitting our faults and being humble so that God can change us?

Funny how christians have NO ANSWER for this..But then....TRUTH is something they LOATHE.

It is the good news that the savior was born, lived, and died for us so that all who believe in Him will have eternal life.

He paid the price for your sins so that you don't have to.



Pray to Him, ask Him to come into your life, ask forgiveness for your sins and give your life over to Him by following Him and doing your best to follow His commandments.

Christians need to make good music like this again!

Say this prayer OP, or something similar.

“Father, I know that I have broken your laws and my sins have separated me from you. I am truly sorry, and now I want to turn away from my past sinful life toward you. Please forgive me, and help me avoid sinning again. I believe that your son, Jesus Christ died for my sins, was resurrected from the dead, is alive, and hears my prayer. I invite Jesus to become the Lord of my life, to rule and reign in my heart from this day forward. Please send your Holy Spirit to help me obey You, and to do Your will for the rest of my life. In Jesus' name I pray, Amen.”

It's the News that God's sitting up in heaven eager to burn and torture you forever. God created you imperfect and hates you passionately for being imperfect.

But he is actually kind and loving so he had his only good kid butchered, and all you have to do to be saved from his magnifying glass, little ant, is to accept christianity.

But please be careful.

If you pick the wrong christianity, you will still be put under his magnifying glass and still be tortured like a little kid with an ant.

Don't be afraid, though. God will send his Holy Spirit to guide you to The Right Christianity and make the Bible magically clear to you. Just like he did for the other 30,000+ denominations that all think everyone else is going to hell.

"Jesus the Messiah" in Hebrew

He didn't seem like he was trying to sound important to me..

Maybe your ego is easily damaged by others around you unintentionally?

Nailed it (no pun intended)

Hi AC:



John the Baptist, Jesus Christ and the Twelve all preached the "Gospel of the Kingdom," which is Gospel #1 from my OP:

[link to www.christianforums.com]

The Apostle Paul is 'preaching the kingdom' (Acts 20:25) too, but also preached the 'Gospel of the Grace of God' (Acts 20:24), which is Gospel #2 from the OP above for gathering members to the 'Body of Christ,' which is Church #2 in this OP:

[link to forum.bible-discussion.com]

One primary difference is that the Gospel of the Kingdom has three different baptisms, while there is only 'one baptism' (Eph. 4:5) for Paul's Word of the Cross Gospel message from this OP:

[link to forum.bible-discussion.com]

Most professing Christians mix these two gospels for these two churches together into an abomination that God sent to nobody and without any clue that they are distorting the 'wisdom given him' (Paul) to 'their own destruction.' 2Peter 3:14-16 [link to www.biblegateway.com]

Only those of you obeying Paul's Word of the Cross Gospel Message (#2) are baptized into Christ Jesus [link to www.christianforums.com] , while most have no idea what that even means ...

In Christ Jesus even now,

Terral

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the gospel is the how to be for life

outside the gospel is death

Take the time to look it up. you might learn something.

Mark 1:14-15 (King James Version)

14Now after that John was put in prison, Jesus came into Galilee, preaching the gospel of the kingdom of God,

15And saying, The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand: repent ye, and believe the gospel.

[link to www.biblegateway.com]

Gods Kingdom is coming! This is the good news.

i got a question...... how many threads are you gonna start asking the same basic questions?

are you having fun messing with christians?

they think you are sincere, and are willing to post all this stuff thinking it might help you, the jokes on you. someone who waits in silence will inevidably read their postings and actually ask the Lord into their life.

the truth of the matter is, i think, your toying with people. seeking attention.

it isnt that hard to get saved.

Yes :) And that Jesus is God in the flesh, the only power capable of bearing all the sins of man...God Himself.

Jesus was alive when he said this. His death enables us to enter into the kingdom. It is coming weather we are ready or not.

Sandi one day soon you are gonna regret all the hatred you have spewed forth all over GLP about your Lord

I hope that day is soon enough for you to ask forgiveness and accept him and his sacrifice and enter into everlasting life

Jesus loves you.. yes even you.. in your fiery bitterness and self righteous crusade, he still has infinite love for you

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To the OP

Yes the gospel is essentially Jesus' message of salvation

Here are some good resources that are free from man-made doctrine that clouds the pure Words of Truth in scripture

[link to www.gospelthunder.com]

[link to www.amazingbible.org]

and here is the best Revelations study I have found so far.. its super thorough, and backs up every opinion with tons of scripture and historical record

[link to www.revelationbibleprophecy.org]

This webpage is for a ministry, but they are a good example of what a Church should be today, and they have tons of great resources and frequently asked questions they answer using scripture as the Judge, which all Christians should seek to do

[link to www.gci.org]

from their "about us" page..

Our Doctrinal Summary:
There is one God—Father, Son, and Holy Spirit.
God the Father made all things through the Son, sent the Son for our salvation, and gives us the Holy Spirit.
The Son of God, Jesus Christ, our Lord and Savior, was born of the virgin Mary, fully God and fully human, and is the perfect revelation of the Father and the perfect representative of humanity. He suffered and died on the cross for all human sin, was raised bodily on the third day, and ascended to heaven. Standing in for all humanity before the Father, Jesus Christ provides the perfect human response to God. Since he died for all, all died in him, and all will be made alive in him.
The Holy Spirit brings sinners to repentance and faith, assures believers of their forgiveness and acceptance as God’s dearly loved children, and works in them to conform them to the image of Jesus Christ.
The Bible is the inspired and infallible Word of God that testifies to Jesus Christ. The Bible is fully authoritative for all matters of faith and salvation.
Salvation comes only by God’s grace and not by works, and it is experienced through faith in Jesus Christ. Christians respond to the joy of salvation when they gather in regular fellowship and live godly lives in Jesus Christ.
We look forward to the resurrection of the dead and the life of the age to come.

This should be the foundation of all teachings from a Christian organization. If you find a church that conflicts with this /\ in any way then they are not giving you the truth by God's word

God Bless you, and never stop asking questions! Pray about your questions, God will lead you to the Truth in every one if you are sincere!

I love you all (yes even you Sandi.. even you Russ!)

Dark road ahead everyone.. Know that I am praying for you all


Romans 10:8 ...The word is nigh thee, even in thy mouth, and in thy heart: that is, the word of faith, which we preach;

9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, THOU SHALT BE SAVED.

10 For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.

11 For the scripture saith, Whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed.

12 For there is no difference between the Jew and the Greek: for the same Lord over all is rich unto all that call upon him.

13 FOR WHOSOEVER SHALL CALL UPON THE NAME OF THE LORD SHALL BE SAVED.

Being a Christian should be easy, but the church has made it hard. If you want to understand how Jesus feels about religion, read Matthew 23 onward.



You see, in Jesus' time there were people who pretended to be religious and they thought they were soo good because they kept all these laws. Then they went around bragging about how they were fasting and they said prayers on the street in front of everyone.

Jesus called them Hippocrites!

Start reading Matthew 23 onwards!
Matthew 23:13 (New International Version, ©2011)

Seven Woes on the Teachers of the Law and the Pharisees

13 “Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You shut the door of the kingdom of heaven in people’s faces. You yourselves do not enter, nor will you let those enter who are trying to.
(Teaching Fear?)


“Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You travel over land and sea to win a single convert, and when you have succeeded, you make them twice as much a child of hell as you are.
(False teaching doesn't help anyone.)

“Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You give a tenth of your spices—mint, dill and cumin. But you have neglected the more important matters of the law—justice, mercy and faithfulness. You should have practiced the latter, without neglecting the former.
(Being selfish while pretending to be religious)


Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You clean the outside of the cup and dish, but inside they are full of greed and self-indulgence.
(You think you are clean, but inside you are not!)

“Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You are like whitewashed tombs, which look beautiful on the outside but on the inside are full of the bones of the dead and everything unclean.


Luke 6:42 (New International Version, ©2011)

42 How can you say to your brother, ‘Brother, let me take the speck out of your eye,’ when you yourself fail to see the plank in your own eye? You hypocrite, first take the plank out of your eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother’s eye.


He replied, “Isaiah was right when he prophesied about you hypocrites; as it is written:

“‘These people honor me with their lips,
but their hearts are far from me.




If you are going to be a Christian, you need to do it out of love. You don't do it to show off. You don't earn your way to heaven. You can't please God. You can try to be obedient, but not because you want to please other people. You do it out of love for God.

Love is the most important thing. If you don't have love, you are nothing. Whatever you do, do it out of love.

If it is love, it will not be self serving. You will get no reward for it.

If it is love, you will not show it off to others.

If it love, it might cost you something.

If it is love, it might cost you your life even.

If it is love, it helps other people.

The greatest thing is love. If you can't love your neighbor, all the other rules you have ever kept, things you have done or not done, are useless!

Everything is useless if you hate your neighbor!

If it is love, it doesn't see race, age, deformity, mental challenges, or anything. Every man or woman or child deserves the same amount of love and respect.

The Gospel is that Jesus died for our sins, that whoever believes shall have everlasting life. He died on the cross for our sins. We can't earn our way into heaven. We can't please God with our works. But we can love. We should love. There are rules we should keep, yes, and Jesus did not come to eliminate those rules. But if you are keeping rules but at the same time, you hate anyone, then it is useless.

Start with love. End with love.

Well said! :) :hf:

1 John chapter 4 (KJV)

[16] And we have known and believed the love that God hath to us. God is love; and he that dwelleth in love dwelleth in God, and God in him.
[17] Herein is our love made perfect, that we may have boldness in the day of judgment: because as he is, so are we in this world.
[18] There is no fear in love; but perfect love casteth out fear: because fear hath torment. He that feareth is not made perfect in love.
[19] We love him, because he first loved us.
[20] If a man say, I love God, and hateth his brother, he is a liar: for he that loveth not his brother whom he hath seen, how can he love God whom he hath not seen?
[21] And this commandment have we from him, That he who loveth God love his brother also.


God Bless you and your loved ones in these dark days to come

These words are new to me. What do they mean?

The good news is that a man died? But he died a long time before I committed any offenses, so you must have meant that he took the punishment for someone else.