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Japan to restore power at four reactors: 19 March 2011 1130 hrs

 
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Japan to restore power at four reactors: 19 March 2011 1130 hrs
Japan to restore power at four reactors
Posted: 19 March 2011 1130 hrs

OSAKA: Electricity is expected to be reconnected to four reactors at a stricken Japanese atomic plant on Saturday to power cooling systems, the nuclear and industrial safety agency said.

"We are scheduled to restore electricity at number 1 and 2 within today," an an agency official told a news conference on Saturday.

"Reactors number 5 and 6 also will be powered within today. They are scheduled to restore power to number 3 and 4 tomorrow (Sunday)."

Four of the six reactors at Fukushima No. 1 plant have been in danger of leaking dangerous amounts of radioactivity after an earthquake and tsunami led to a series of hydrogen explosions and fires at buildings housing the units.

The move came as Japanese authorities scramble to cool the quake-hit nuclear plant to avert a catastrophe....


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Power back at nuclear plant in disaster-hit Japan

KITAKAMI, Japan (AFP) – Japanese engineers restored limited power to a stricken nuclear power plant on Saturday as rescuers in the frozen north pulled a young man alive from the rubble eight days after a quake-tsunami disaster swept away entire towns....

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Re: Japan to restore power at four reactors: 19 March 2011 1130 hrs
Even with power connected, the question is whether or not the pumps are functional. I assume the back up pumps from the US have arrived by now and are waiting.

The question is, where are the pumps located, and can workers get to them?
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"...have been in danger of leaking dangerous amounts of radioactivity..."

Back-pedaling like this deserves recognition.
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Re: Japan to restore power at four reactors: 19 March 2011 1130 hrs
Even with power connected, the question is whether or not the pumps are functional. I assume the back up pumps from the US have arrived by now and are waiting.

The question is, where are the pumps located, and can workers get to them?
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You nailed it, OP. Interestingly, other news from the area conflict with the links you put up. I'm not giving you a hard time, just saying this just proves even more that we remain suspicious for darn good reasons.
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this is weird. this morning we get the head guy crying because nothing could be done. and now everything is ok? i would think this guy would have knowledge if they are close to fixing it so why cry?
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Re: Japan to restore power at four reactors: 19 March 2011 1130 hrs
tepco all ready stated that they fear a chain reaction has all ready started.

what does it matter if 3 is still gonna meltdown anyway?

it will be suicide to work on the other plants
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Re: Japan to restore power at four reactors: 19 March 2011 1130 hrs
Even with power connected, the question is whether or not the pumps are functional. I assume the back up pumps from the US have arrived by now and are waiting.

The question is, where are the pumps located, and can workers get to them?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1232806


You nailed it, OP. Interestingly, other news from the area conflict with the links you put up. I'm not giving you a hard time, just saying this just proves even more that we remain suspicious for darn good reasons.
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I agree, there is so much conflicting news. Zero Hedge nailed it with their two r-e-u-t-e-r-s reports that complete contradict one another within 2 minutes.

I really hope they have power restored. However, I'm not confident that the pumps are working, let alone that they will be able to replace the pumps.
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Hmmm, so number 3 is fixable after this???


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I am highly skeptical
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Re: Japan to restore power at four reactors: 19 March 2011 1130 hrs
tepco all ready stated that they fear a chain reaction has all ready started.

what does it matter if 3 is still gonna meltdown anyway?

it will be suicide to work on the other plants
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Definitely. We have 6 wild cards at play. All of which are complete unknowns. I don't like the odds. All it takes is just for one to go to reignite any of the others.
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this is weird. this morning we get the head guy crying because nothing could be done. and now everything is ok? i would think this guy would have knowledge if they are close to fixing it so why cry?
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This is a case of people believing what they don't see.

We saw smoke. White and Yellow

We saw the buildings blown out (hydrogen)

We know from their documentation that the spent rod pool was above where the blast was most likely to occur, meaning a major chance of radiated material scatter.

What we do know is that they SAY its on, though we don't have a single pic from inside the plant confirming "Lights on"


Unless they can "Show" and clearly explain that the situation is under control, I learned that I wont play the sucker after the BP fiasco.
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Re: Japan to restore power at four reactors: 19 March 2011 1130 hrs
Even with power connected, the question is whether or not the pumps are functional. I assume the back up pumps from the US have arrived by now and are waiting.

The question is, where are the pumps located, and can workers get to them?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1232806


You nailed it, OP. Interestingly, other news from the area conflict with the links you put up. I'm not giving you a hard time, just saying this just proves even more that we remain suspicious for darn good reasons.
 Quoting: cRoSS FiRe



I agree, there is so much conflicting news. Zero Hedge nailed it with their two r-e-u-t-e-r-s reports that complete contradict one another within 2 minutes.

I really hope they have power restored. However, I'm not confident that the pumps are working, let alone that they will be able to replace the pumps.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1232806


I've been scanning various news agencies. The majority of them are reporting that even if the pumps are working, there will not be enough water because of cracks, and, additionally, the workers realistically can't get close enough..

I'm not trying to freak anyone out, just relaying what most media outlets are reporting via "expert" guests.
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umm ok watch this they say they have all ready tried everything
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Re: Japan to restore power at four reactors: 19 March 2011 1130 hrs
Even with power connected, the question is whether or not the pumps are functional. I assume the back up pumps from the US have arrived by now and are waiting.

The question is, where are the pumps located, and can workers get to them?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1232806


You nailed it, OP. Interestingly, other news from the area conflict with the links you put up. I'm not giving you a hard time, just saying this just proves even more that we remain suspicious for darn good reasons.
 Quoting: cRoSS FiRe



I agree, there is so much conflicting news. Zero Hedge nailed it with their two r-e-u-t-e-r-s reports that complete contradict one another within 2 minutes.

I really hope they have power restored. However, I'm not confident that the pumps are working, let alone that they will be able to replace the pumps.
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Here is an example, from breaking news:

"Japan update: Power company says temps fall in spent nuke fuel pool at Fukushima No. 5 reactor - Kyodo"

How in the hell do they know this information if they don't know if the pools have water?
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Re: Japan to restore power at four reactors: 19 March 2011 1130 hrs
No doom and revelations coming to fruition? = NO PIN
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umm ok watch this they say they have all ready tried everything
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I'm not disagreeing...but there are many view points:

Mar 19, 2011
Burying Japanese reactors could be 'big mistake'

WHY not just bury them? The idea of smothering and sealing Japan's overheated nuclear reactors in sand or concrete to stop the crisis is appealing. But experts say that it's too early for something that desperate and that it could be a big mistake that could make matters worse.

Most urge continuing the current efforts to cool the radioactive material, and at least one suggested massive spraying to hold down radioactive dust. Fires, explosions or partial meltdowns have struck four of the six reactor units at the Fukushima Dai-ichi power plant. There are few options for stopping the dangerous overheating of nuclear materials there. ...

[link to www.straitstimes.com]
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Your kidding right? No way this facility can be started up again. These reactors are all fried right? At least 4 of them are. How can these mental midgets actually even contemplate such a thing?
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Re: Japan to restore power at four reactors: 19 March 2011 1130 hrs
March 17th full plant overview estimated by JAIF
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Re: Japan to restore power at four reactors: 19 March 2011 1130 hrs
March 17th full plant overview estimated by JAIF
webview:

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PDF:
www.jaif.or.jp/english/news_images/pdf/ENGNEWS01_1300368041P.​pdf
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Your kidding right? No way this facility can be started up again. These reactors are all fried right? At least 4 of them are. How can these mental midgets actually even contemplate such a thing?
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Is it even possible to cycle the pools..etc. after sea water has been added to them? I thought sea water rendered these reactors and pools useless.
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Re: Japan to restore power at four reactors: 19 March 2011 1130 hrs
March 17th full plant overview estimated by JAIF
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PDF:
www.jaif.or.jp/english/news_images/pdf/ENGNEWS01_1300368041P.​pdf
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check out Page 3
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Re: Japan to restore power at four reactors: 19 March 2011 1130 hrs
Your kidding right? No way this facility can be started up again. These reactors are all fried right? At least 4 of them are. How can these mental midgets actually even contemplate such a thing?
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Is it even possible to cycle the pools..etc. after sea water has been added to them? I thought sea water rendered these reactors and pools useless.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1232806


These are all General Electric designed reactors. I want to see a report from these clowns before they restart anything right? Good Lord, these people are friggen nuts. But yes your right, sea water has already ruined everything. These have to be torn down and re designed ..PERIOD!!
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How do you restore power to rubble? 1dunno1

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Re: Japan to restore power at four reactors: 19 March 2011 1130 hrs
March 17th full plant overview estimated by JAIF
webview:

[link to webcache.googleusercontent.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1232806


PDF:
www.jaif.or.jp/english/news_images/pdf/ENGNEWS01_1300368041P.​pdf
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1232806


check out Page 3
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From Page 2:

Unit-1, 2, 3 & 4, which were in full operation when the earthquake occurred, all shutdown automatically.External power supply was available after the quake. While injecting water into the reactor pressure vessel using make-up water system, TEPCO recovered the core cooling function and made the unit into cold shutdown state one by one.Latest Monitor Indication: 15.9 μSv/h at 12:00, Mar. 17 at NPS borderEvacuation
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Let me be the first to raise the flag.bsflag
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it seems they have some hydrogen in no 5 and no 6 buildings now. they are opening a vent in the rooftop to let it out.

i posted it on another thread that just disappeared damned
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Status of nuclear power plants in Fukushima as of 22:00 March 18 (Estimated by JAIF)

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Status of nuclear power plants in Fukushima as of 22:00 March 18 (Estimated by JAIF)

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Seems to me they already know the core can't be cooled:

Core cooling requiring AC power
#1 Not Functional
#2 Not Functional
#3 Not Functional
#4 Not necessary
#5 Not necessary
#6 Not necessary
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Re: Japan to restore power at four reactors: 19 March 2011 1130 hrs
look at the one i posted, is the last update from march 19, 10:00 (Japan time)
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Re: Japan to restore power at four reactors: 19 March 2011 1130 hrs
I agree, there is so much conflicting news. Zero Hedge nailed it with their two r-e-u-t-e-r-s reports that complete contradict one another within 2 minutes.

I really hope they have power restored. However, I'm not confident that the pumps are working, let alone that they will be able to replace the pumps.
 Quoting: cRoSS FiRe


I've been scanning various news agencies. The majority of them are reporting that even if the pumps are working, there will not be enough water because of cracks, and, additionally, the workers realistically can't get close enough..

I'm not trying to freak anyone out, just relaying what most media outlets are reporting via "expert" guests.


they're all broken to shit.

and HOT.

now what?





GLP