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Republican Sen. Chuck Hagel of Nebraska: The longer U.S. forces remain in Iraq, he said, the more it begins to resemble the Vietnam war.

 
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Republican Sen. Chuck Hagel of Nebraska: The longer U.S. forces remain in Iraq, he said, the more it begins to resemble the Vietnam war.
Republican Sen. Chuck Hagel of Nebraska: The longer U.S. forces remain in Iraq, he said, the more it begins to resemble the Vietnam war.

Republican Sen. Chuck Hagel of Nebraska on Thursday said the United States is "getting more and more bogged down" in Iraq and stood by his comments that the White House is disconnected from reality and losing the war.

The longer U.S. forces remain in Iraq, he said, the more it begins to resemble the Vietnam war.

Hagel mocked Vice President Dick Cheney´s assertion in June that the insurgency in Iraq was in its "last throes," saying the U.S. death toll has risen amid insurgent attacks.

"Maybe the vice president can explain the increase in casualties we´re taking," the Nebraskan told CNN.

"If that´s winning, then he´s got a different definition of winning than I do."

On Thursday, Cheney told a veterans group that "Iraq is a critical front in the war on terror, and victory there is critical to the future security of the U.S."

"Every man and woman who fights and sacrifices in this war is serving a just and noble cause," Cheney told the 73rd National Convention of the Military Order of the Purple Heart in Springfield, Missouri.

Hagel, an Army infantry squad leader during the Vietnam war, sits on the Senate Foreign Relations Committee and supported the October 2002 resolution authorizing military action against Iraq.

But he said the United States risks losing more public support for the conflict amid a rising cost in blood and money.

"The casualties we´re taking, the billion dollars a week we´re putting in there, the kind of commitment we´ve got -- we´re not going to be able to sustain it," he said.

Iraq and Vietnam still have more differences than similarities, he said, but "there is a parallel emerging."

"The longer we stay in Iraq, the more similarities will start to develop, meaning essentially that we are getting more and more bogged down, taking more and more casualties, more and more heated dissension and debate in the United States," Hagel said.

Hagel also did not back away from comments he made in June to U.S. News & World Report that "the White House is completely disconnected from reality" and "the reality is that we´re losing in Iraq."

"It gives me no great pleasure to have said that and to say that now," he said Thursday.

He said the U.S. death toll has continued to rise "at a very significant rate -- more dead, more wounded, less electricity in Iraq, less oil being pumped in Iraq, more insurgent attacks, more insurgents coming across the border, more corruption in the government."

A total of 1,861 American troops have died in the war since the U.S.-led invasion in March 2003, including four who were killed Thursday by a roadside bomb in Samarra. (Full story)

Cheney said in June that the insurgency is "in the last throes," and he predicted that the fighting will end before the Bush administration leaves office. (Full story)

In the CNN interview Thursday, Hagel mentioned Cheney´s comments about the insurgency and quickly added, "The facts speak for themselves."

Hagel did say he agrees with President Bush that the United States should not set a timetable for troop withdrawal, but he also predicted the United States would begin "withdrawing troops from Iraq next year."

"I don´t like time frames because it gives the president no flexibility, and I think you always must have flexibility in these things and a judgment call by the president," he said.

Ultimately, he said, it´s up to the Iraqis to control their nation´s fate.

"That means they are either going to have to be in a position sometime next year to really step up in governing themselves, defending themselves, supporting themselves, or we can´t continue to stay there indefinitely," Hagel said.

The next six months will be "very critical" in Iraq, he said.

"Not just the constitution writing, referendum, the election -- but also within that six months´ period we´re going to see whether the Iraqis are really going to be capable of defending themselves," he said.

On another Iraq-related issue, Hagel said Bush made the wrong decision by not meeting again with Cindy Sheehan, a mother of a U.S. soldier killed in Iraq who has camped outside the president´s Texas ranch. (Full story)

Sheehan "deserves some consideration, and I think that should have been done right from the beginning," Hagel said, noting that Bush did meet with her shortly after her son´s death last year.

"I think the wise course of action, the compassionate course of action, the better course of action would have been to immediately invite her in to the ranch. It should have been done when this whole thing started. Listen to her."
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12/08/2005 10:08 AM
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Re: Republican Sen. Chuck Hagel of Nebraska: The longer U.S. forces remain in Iraq, he said, the more it begins to resemble the Vietnam war.
ahhhh, duh.....
these are the guys in charge?
are we in trouble or what
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Re: Republican Sen. Chuck Hagel of Nebraska: The longer U.S. forces remain in Iraq, he said, the more it begins to resemble the Vietnam war.
Bump for Bushbots who are ignoring this! :dubya:ROBOTdance
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Re: Republican Sen. Chuck Hagel of Nebraska: The longer U.S. forces remain in Iraq, he said, the more it begins to resemble the Vietnam war.
GW made a speech last year where he said that anyone who compares the iraq war to Vietnam is giving "comfort to the enemy".
At the time, I was torn-up about the remark-on the one hand, that´s a pretty strong warning, and something i would definately NOT want to do, and on the other hand, I was insulted on behalf of everyone (Veterans especcially), who lived through that time--and as a citizen, being given a gag-order by GW.
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How does Chuck see things so clearly compared to his coworkers?
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Re: Republican Sen. Chuck Hagel of Nebraska: The longer U.S. forces remain in Iraq, he said, the more it begins to resemble the Vietnam war.
I just remembered something the other day about Vietnam - the process that was called "Vietnamization".

The concept was that we could train that South Vietnamese Army to assume the role of the US Military, which would allow the US to withdraw its troops.

Sound familiar?

It didn´t succeed then. Is there any reason to think that it will succeed in Iraq?

I think Sen. Hagel is exactly right.
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12/08/2005 10:08 AM
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Except that Vietnam had no huge Oil reserves. Senator Blutarsky
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Re: Republican Sen. Chuck Hagel of Nebraska: The longer U.S. forces remain in Iraq, he said, the more it begins to resemble the Vietnam war.
Except that Vietnam had no huge Oil reserves.

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How does that make a difference? If anything, that makes the situation in Iraq even more unstable, because there will always be a huge incentive for a group of thugs to try to gain control of the oil.
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Re: Republican Sen. Chuck Hagel of Nebraska: The longer U.S. forces remain in Iraq, he said, the more it begins to resemble the Vietnam war.
Oh boy! I just had a hole load of fun, and I´ve just got to share it with somebody.

Today, while browsing the newsgroups I saw an item on ass-stuffing with bananas. Now, fisting is really my main scene (hence my name here...) but that kind of naturally leads to an interest in enemas, ass-stuffing, and all kinds of other butt-play.

So that item on bananas really stuck in my mind, you know? Around about lunchtime I realized that I really had to take a shit, but I held it. I was just in a mood where having my ass full felt really good. I held it all afternoon. As time passed the fullness just kept making me more and more aware of my asshole.

Finally, 5pm came. I tore out of work like a bat out of hell. On my way home I stopped and got myself four big green bananas. I got home and finally let myself lose that load of shit. That felt real good. I draped my bed, set out some KY, paper towels, and the fruit.

The bananas weren´t as green as I would have liked, so I decided to get my hole ready with one of my smaller dildoes. (that´s about 9x2" for me --- you´d be astonished at the size of my big ones!) Responding to it´s old pink friend, my asshole popped right open.

I peeled the first banana, lubed it up, and slid it in. That felt kind of cool - literally. The chief sensation was the slight coolness of the rod inside me. It seemed to be hanging around right at the entrance to my hole though, so I decided that a good long stroke with the dildoe was in order. Now that was different. I can´t say how many times I´ve planted that particular dildo up my hole, but this was new. I could feel the dildo mushing the banana out of the way as I drove it in.

Next banana. That went in pretty easy too. Now I was starting to feel a little full. I used the dildo to push it in all the way too, and I nearly came as I felt my guts expand with the rubber rod and the two mushy bananas. Even after I took the dildo out my prostate and dick kept on throbbing. I knew from experience though that this would pass if I gave it a little time.

I walked over to my VCR and loaded a tape. Getting vertical brought a whole new wave of sensations as the mass in my gut shifted around. I had flashes of being forced to do calisthenics in this state...

I watched the video for a little while, until I could think about something besides how full my ass was. I lubed up the third banana and, looking at it, got an intense hard on. Clearly my cock was enjoying this new game.

The third one broke as I got it about halfway in. In frustration, I crammed the last half of it in, turning it to instant mush as I did so. I felt the banana-slime drooling down my ass and smiled. My hands were a mess, so there was no turning back now. Lustily, I grabbed the fourth banana (regretting that I hadn´t bought more), squeezed some lube onto it. This one started to disintegrate as soon as I had it about a third of the way in, but I didn´t let that stop me, I just kept cramming it in. It felt far too good to stop.

Now my ass was really full. My cock was twitching all over the place and I could feel the blood pounding in my prostate. I didn´t want to come yet though, so I laid back And took a few deep breaths, just grooving on how good it felt.

On the one hand, it was kind of like having a fist up there, ´cause my ass was really full, but it was different because my ass-ring wasn´t getting stretched at all, just my guts. It was a little like having a big load of water up there too, but it wasn´t quite like that either, since the I could feel that the mass in my guts was hard.

Finally, I thought it was safe to go ahead, so I started to jack my cock a little. Whew, that felt wonderful. To an anal-intensive like me, there´s little finer than having your guts stuffed while your cock gets attention too...

Then I had an idea, I wanted another banana, but none were at hand and I was in no shape to got to the store and get another, but the dildo was right there. I grabbed the little beast and put it to the lips of my butt.

Slowly, I slid the thing in. Weeeehaaa! With each inch I slid the rod in I felt the bananas getting mashed and rearranged and my guts getting fuller and fuller. Now, I got a real surprise as the dildo slid in all the way, a good two inches beyond where it normally stops! It slid right on into the second sphincter! I guess bananas are good lube too!

I sat up, putting my weight on the stub of the dildo and grabbed my cock. I squirmed on the dildo, mashing the bananas still more, and grooved on the load I had in my guts. In seconds I came with a wild banshee yell. Yeee haaa!

That was good fun.

Getting rid of the load I´d put up my guts was fun too, and none of the usual stink!

Bananas -- they´re not just for breakfast anymore.
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I´ve noticed that every single thread that makes Bush look bad is being spammed with this porn.

I guess if they can´t argue their position the Bushworshipers are willing to disgust the general public with the sort of thing that they are into.
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And he was right!
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Re: Republican Sen. Chuck Hagel of Nebraska: The longer U.S. forces remain in Iraq, he said, the more it begins to resemble the Vietnam war.
Oh boy! I just had a hole load of fun, and I´ve just got to share it with somebody.

Today, while browsing the newsgroups I saw an item on ass-stuffing with bananas. Now, fisting is really my main scene (hence my name here...) but that kind of naturally leads to an interest in enemas, ass-stuffing, and all kinds of other butt-play.

So that item on bananas really stuck in my mind, you know? Around about lunchtime I realized that I really had to take a shit, but I held it. I was just in a mood where having my ass full felt really good. I held it all afternoon. As time passed the fullness just kept making me more and more aware of my asshole.

Finally, 5pm came. I tore out of work like a bat out of hell. On my way home I stopped and got myself four big green bananas. I got home and finally let myself lose that load of shit. That felt real good. I draped my bed, set out some KY, paper towels, and the fruit.

The bananas weren´t as green as I would have liked, so I decided to get my hole ready with one of my smaller dildoes. (that´s about 9x2" for me --- you´d be astonished at the size of my big ones!) Responding to it´s old pink friend, my asshole popped right open.

I peeled the first banana, lubed it up, and slid it in. That felt kind of cool - literally. The chief sensation was the slight coolness of the rod inside me. It seemed to be hanging around right at the entrance to my hole though, so I decided that a good long stroke with the dildoe was in order. Now that was different. I can´t say how many times I´ve planted that particular dildo up my hole, but this was new. I could feel the dildo mushing the banana out of the way as I drove it in.

Next banana. That went in pretty easy too. Now I was starting to feel a little full. I used the dildo to push it in all the way too, and I nearly came as I felt my guts expand with the rubber rod and the two mushy bananas. Even after I took the dildo out my prostate and dick kept on throbbing. I knew from experience though that this would pass if I gave it a little time.

I walked over to my VCR and loaded a tape. Getting vertical brought a whole new wave of sensations as the mass in my gut shifted around. I had flashes of being forced to do calisthenics in this state...

I watched the video for a little while, until I could think about something besides how full my ass was. I lubed up the third banana and, looking at it, got an intense hard on. Clearly my cock was enjoying this new game.

The third one broke as I got it about halfway in. In frustration, I crammed the last half of it in, turning it to instant mush as I did so. I felt the banana-slime drooling down my ass and smiled. My hands were a mess, so there was no turning back now. Lustily, I grabbed the fourth banana (regretting that I hadn´t bought more), squeezed some lube onto it. This one started to disintegrate as soon as I had it about a third of the way in, but I didn´t let that stop me, I just kept cramming it in. It felt far too good to stop.

Now my ass was really full. My cock was twitching all over the place and I could feel the blood pounding in my prostate. I didn´t want to come yet though, so I laid back And took a few deep breaths, just grooving on how good it felt.

On the one hand, it was kind of like having a fist up there, ´cause my ass was really full, but it was different because my ass-ring wasn´t getting stretched at all, just my guts. It was a little like having a big load of water up there too, but it wasn´t quite like that either, since the I could feel that the mass in my guts was hard.

Finally, I thought it was safe to go ahead, so I started to jack my cock a little. Whew, that felt wonderful. To an anal-intensive like me, there´s little finer than having your guts stuffed while your cock gets attention too...

Then I had an idea, I wanted another banana, but none were at hand and I was in no shape to got to the store and get another, but the dildo was right there. I grabbed the little beast and put it to the lips of my butt.

Slowly, I slid the thing in. Weeeehaaa! With each inch I slid the rod in I felt the bananas getting mashed and rearranged and my guts getting fuller and fuller. Now, I got a real surprise as the dildo slid in all the way, a good two inches beyond where it normally stops! It slid right on into the second sphincter! I guess bananas are good lube too!

I sat up, putting my weight on the stub of the dildo and grabbed my cock. I squirmed on the dildo, mashing the bananas still more, and grooved on the load I had in my guts. In seconds I came with a wild banshee yell. Yeee haaa!

That was good fun.

Getting rid of the load I´d put up my guts was fun too, and none of the usual stink!

Bananas -- they´re not just for breakfast anymore.
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