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>>>FUKUSHIMA - Cesium 137 CONTAMINATION HIGHER than CHERNOBYL? Already 3x EPA Evacuation Trigger...why no MANDATORY Evacuation?

 
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Is it just me or do we make too much of evacuating.

Are evacs really that scary??

Organize and deliver. What's the big deal? Round 'em up, move 'em out, seek donations to feed, clothe, and keep 'em clean until they can relocate.

The global populace has already proven they are willing to help but charities have been corrupted. Cut the middle man. If you want to donate be willing to take in a family or adopt a family and assist them with getting on their feet. If the entire planet agreed to this it could work.

Put it this way... If Japan agreed to assist with the cost of relocating say, a family of four, I would be able to take them in. Any locals in my area who wanted to donate could purchase food or clothing then deduct those purchases from their taxes. Local businesses could provide jobs. Check, one family done.

Each family is relocated to the area whose language they know. Attempts can be made to keep extended families together but no guarantees. Skillsets could be factored in.

It seems if politicans aren't benefitted by something they just won't do it. A little too much effort and thinking is needed for them to do their jobs and lead people.

If the northern half of Japan is uninhabitable, what else is there to do?

As I'm typing this it's becoming clear. Who will pay for cancer treatments as they become ill? Who will watch over the families to ensure they are not 'enslaved' by their host families?

Egads... it is scary. What a mess.
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You're like me...I would gladly help a family if they were willing to relocate.

As you said, the charities are mostly corrupt. Government officials are either benignly inept, corrupt, or mired by so much red tape that the supplies rarely get to people when they need it most. This is the same everywhere

Why would we think the Japanese would be any different? Ultimately, in the face of a powerful act of nature, all of our meager contingency plans and flowchart guidelines can dissolve into chaos.

Still, there has to be something that can be done for people trapped in front of this slow-motion wreck, otherwise I will just turn off my computer for a while. It may become too painful to watch...and I'm afraid this won't be the last time we are going to watch things we never imagined could happen in this "high-tech" and "advanced" age.

I truly hope I'm wrong.

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why would they impose a mandatory evacuation when they didn't do so with the gulf coast incident?

ask yourself this and you won't need to ask someone else in future, hopefully, cuz you will have the only logical explanation set in stone in your mind and way of thinking

same reason - depopulation efforts - period

expect more of same across the board
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obama the antichrist wants most of us dead. think about how many here in America are on the verge to having him overthrown due to his lawlessness and destruction of the US and the world. The only ones to make a stand will be citizens of the US. Take the citizens out then you have complete control of the US and the world.
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Wild Guess...


New World Order told Japan that they were responsible for the 9.0 EQ-tsunami (they already warned Japan with an EQ bomb last year). LINK - > [link to www.youtube.com]

They then told them that they cannot encase the reactors in cement

They also told them that they cannot evacuate their people.

...and if they do, they will receive another EQ-tsunami.


Why? Because they want population reduction. More importantly, they want to try to try to take control of the Americans. They wish to try to bring the UN onto American soil and they want a smoooth landing on the California beaches.
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Adapt to the deadly radiation or Perish! lol
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We lived in a true hellhole planet until 3/11...now we live in a RADIOACTIVE hellhole planet! lol
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JAPAN IS KAPPUT¡¡AND SOON OR LATER HAS TO BE EVACUATE ALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL AND FORE EVER¡¡¡FOR US 50.000 THOUSANDS
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I hope not all of Japan...it is a beautiful country, and a wonderful society

However, because of denial, coverups and greed (the Tepco executives didn't move swiftly because they were trying to salvage their investment in Fukushima Daiichi first) the Japanese may lose a significant region bordering the n-plant.

As a result of Cesium-137 contamination there is a 1000 square mile "exclusion zone" around Chernobyl to this day.

If even half of that were to "excluded" today within 500 miles of Fukushima that would easily include Tokyo

If the Japanese officials don't have the resources to deal with the Tsunami refugees they already have, they certainly don't have the resources to handle evacuees from Fukushima and Ibaraki prefectures

I think they haven't even considered an evacuation of Tokyo, because there is no way to do it. It is the ultimate end-game scenario.

The fate of a nation is hanging on those 200 firefighters on the suicide mission of cooling reactors which may already be in advanced stages of meltdown.

Meanwhile...the band plays on.
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A cost sheet analysis of what will be lost against what few gains were made in running these reactors in a fault line infested zone would probably characterise this as the biggest business flop in human history. The loss to Japan Incorporated will be immeasurable with the worst case scenario contemplating an utter loss of all of Japan, if not the world.
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We lived in a true hellhole planet until 3/11...now we live in a RADIOACTIVE hellhole planet! lol
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Funny how the number 11 figures again.
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wind is to change south today in japan,

look out tokyo, radation coming your way.

NHK reader voice cracked when she read it out,
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[link to bbnworldnews.com]

CHRISTOPHER BUSBY: FUKUSHIMA 43 MILE CONTAMINATION LEVELS TWICE AS HIGH AS CHERNOBYL

Prison Planet editor Paul Joseph Watson sits in while Alex is away. Paul talks with Christopher Busby, a British scientist and activist known for his work on the health effects of ionizing radiation.




PART II



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GREAT!!! Not to worry:
"There's a whole lot of United States before it gets to the UK"

...but I live on the west coast of the states...
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And the quarantine continues ...

Radiation could Halt the Import of Cars and Agriculture Products from Japan, China

[link to finchannel.com]



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Fukushima's "Chernobyl moment" could be fast approaching

By Mike Whitney

March 26, 2011 at 16:10:21

[link to www.opednews.com]

The calamity at the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear plant is deteriorating and the nightmare scenario is becoming more likely. The levels of radioactive iodine in the seawater beyond the plant have soared to 1,250-times above normal, contaminating the fish in the area and turning the coastal waters into a nuclear wasteland. At the same time, the prospect of a full-core meltdown still looms-large with no remedy in sight. Brave workers have put their lives on the line with no meaningful sign of improvement. The lights are still "blinking red."

Arjun Makhijani, president of the Institute for Energy and Environmental Research in Maryland, details the toxic cocktail that will emerge if there's an explosion at Fukushima...


....If the spent fuel rods catch fire from lack of coolant, the intense heat will lift radiation plumes high into the atmosphere that will drift around the world. At present, the pools are in danger because two of the three stricken reactors have lost their cover due to hydrogen explosions. The risks are unparalleled and the remedies uncertain.

A full damage assessment is still pending. There is no "quick fix."

..."It's only a matter of days before it disperses in the entire northern hemisphere," said Andrea Stahl, a senior scientist at the Norwegian Institute for Air Research."

The media has flipped into full "BP Oil Spill-mode," making every effort to minimize the disaster and to soothe the public with half-truths and disinformation. The media's goal is to conceal the scale of the catastrophe in order to protect the nuclear industry. It's another case of profits over people.

The Japanese government has been downplaying the crisis to make it look like they have matters under control. But it's all a sham. The only real change has been the way the gov-media have shaped the information to pacify the public. It's shameless. Rather than sweeping it under the rug, the government should be taking extra precautions to save lives.

This is from the Union of Concerned Scientists website:

"Our assessment is that the Japanese government is squandering the opportunity to initiate an orderly evacuation from larger areas around the site--especially of sensitive populations, like children and pregnant women. It is potentially wasting valuable time by not undertaking a larger scale evacuation at this time."


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Christopher Busby: Fukushima 43 Mile Contamination Levels Twice as High as Chernoby



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Wow.
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This is why people in metropolitan areas are no longer evacuated from disasters. It simply creates a bigger disaster over a greater area.
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Anyway God won't appreciate the existence of these people as unnatural as Plutonium. abduct
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CNN on Radioactive Cesium: “Once it’s inside of you, you’ve got trouble”

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— Nuclear radiation different than normal radiation (VIDEO)

March 26th, 2011 at 07:42 PM



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Russian Chernobyl Expert Warns of Dire Consequences for Health Around Fukushima

Dense populations and risk of plutonium releases could mean Fukushima accident worse than Chernobyl, prominent Russian scientists says


TAKOMA PARK, MD - March 25 - Dr. Alexey Yablokov, co-author of “Chernobyl: Consequences of the Catastrophe for People and the Environment," and a member of the Russian Academy of Sciences, warned today that the consequences of the Fukushima nuclear accident in Japan could be comparable to or potentially greater than the health and environmental consequences of the Chernobyl reactor explosion on April 26, 1986 in Ukraine.

Speaking at a press conference in Washington, DC, Dr. Yablokov said: “We are seeing something that has never happened – a multiple reactor catastrophe including one using plutonium fuel as well as spent fuel pool accidents, all happening within 200 kilometers of a metropolis of 30 million people. Because the area is far more densely populated than around Chernobyl, the human toll could eventually be far worse in Japan."

....“I am not optimistic about the situation at Fukushima,” Dr. Yablolov said. “It’s especially dangerous if plutonium is released as inhalation of plutonium results in a high probability of cancer. A release of plutonium will contaminate that area forever and it is impossible to clean up.”

Plutonium is deadly for 240,000 years

...Dr. Yablokov cautioned against the downplaying of the seriousness of the radiation releases at Fukushima. “When you hear ‘no immediate danger’ then you should run away as far and as fast as you can,” he said.


[link to www.commondreams.org]

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chernobyls rads were distributed high into atmosphere via explosion .30 tons of radioactive graphite bown around nortern hemisphere.
fuku, while having some smaller explosiions which sends rads up and about, seems to be a much more concentrated, ground level ongoing and increasing leak.
the compensation issues are just being mentioned in msm. it is possible that got mandatory evacuees
will be compensated, so the fewer, the better for the govt.
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>> 1 Million died from Chernobyl- Fukushima has 6X nuclear material & more dense population than Chernobyl.

Nuclear Crisis In Japan & The Chernobyl Nuclear Disaster pt.1
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Dr. Alexey Yablokov is a member of the Russian Academy of Science and served as the Chair of the Russian National Security Council's Interagency Commission for Ecology under President Boris Yeltsin. In 2009 he co-authored "Chernobyl: Consequences of the Catastrophe for People and the Environment,"



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Absolutely Terrible

I'm now terrified!
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chernobyls rads were distributed high into atmosphere via explosion .30 tons of radioactive graphite bown around nortern hemisphere.
fuku, while having some smaller explosiions which sends rads up and about, seems to be a much more concentrated, ground level ongoing and increasing leak.
the compensation issues are just being mentioned in msm. it is possible that got mandatory evacuees
will be compensated, so the fewer, the better for the govt.
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ooooh fck...I hadn't even thought about the compensation angle.

So, given the cost of damages, perhaps they feel it's better to do nothing - just let nature take it's course - as the gov't couldn't afford the benefits?
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UPDATE, and more of nothing conclusive....double talk and evasion.

Sunday, March 27, 2011

Some Progress Made, But New Hurdles Emerge At Fukushima Plant


TOKYO (Nikkei)--Despite some positive developments, the situation at the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power plant remains

How long it will take to remove those contaminated puddles remains unclear. Fire engine pumps will likely continue sending water into reactor systems for some time to come.

Securing external power and resurrecting those pumps in the turbine buildings are an important step toward lowering temperatures inside reactor pressure vessels to safe levels....

...But any trouble with the pumps will likely send temperatures inside pressure vessels soaring, making it necessary to vent radioactive vapor into the atmosphere. The danger of a fuel-rod meltdown also still persists.

[link to e.nikkei.com]
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UPDATE, and more of nothing conclusive....double talk and evasion.

Sunday, March 27, 2011

Some Progress Made, But New Hurdles Emerge At Fukushima Plant


TOKYO (Nikkei)--Despite some positive developments, the situation at the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power plant remains

How long it will take to remove those contaminated puddles remains unclear. Fire engine pumps will likely continue sending water into reactor systems for some time to come.

Securing external power and resurrecting those pumps in the turbine buildings are an important step toward lowering temperatures inside reactor pressure vessels to safe levels....

...But any trouble with the pumps will likely send temperatures inside pressure vessels soaring, making it necessary to vent radioactive vapor into the atmosphere. The danger of a fuel-rod meltdown also still persists.

[link to e.nikkei.com]
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"Once we can clarify what is broken, we can draw up follow-up strategies effectively,"

Good grief!!!
It appears TEPCO is following their standard "Reactor Troubleshooting Procedure Manual". They will do one systems check after another until they run out of excuses. It appears saving their precious Plutonium is worth more than human life. I don't know why the Japanese government hasn't taken over this crisis.
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A concise answer to the question in the post's title is of course they should.

However, where would half a million Japanese go?

Most of Japan is mountainous and over 80% of Japanese live in cities.

In the mountains there is no infrastructure for 1/2 million Japanese and in the cities there is no spare space.

The alternative is for them to go abroad but I have yet to see other countries offering refuge.

Even if they did, the Japanese are very insular indeed and unlikely to go-even if death results from their actions.

The sad fact is that most of the Japanese with high exposure levels and those that continue to receive high levels means that in the near future, death rates will soar.

I have heard firsthand from a doctor friend that the levels of cancer in Fukui prefecture ( a prefecture with 3-4 reactors) that the cancer rate was double the national average in Japan.

This information is not common knowledge in Japan as the information is snowballed.

It is a tragic situation indeed
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This is a huge, slow-motion train wreck.

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Profoundly sad but poetic in a way
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A concise answer to the question in the post's title is of course they should.

However, where would half a million Japanese go?

Most of Japan is mountainous and over 80% of Japanese live in cities.

In the mountains there is no infrastructure for 1/2 million Japanese and in the cities there is no spare space.

The alternative is for them to go abroad but I have yet to see other countries offering refuge.

Even if they did, the Japanese are very insular indeed and unlikely to go-even if death results from their actions.

The sad fact is that most of the Japanese with high exposure levels and those that continue to receive high levels means that in the near future, death rates will soar.

I have heard firsthand from a doctor friend that the levels of cancer in Fukui prefecture ( a prefecture with 3-4 reactors) that the cancer rate was double the national average in Japan.

This information is not common knowledge in Japan as the information is snowballed.

It is a tragic situation indeed
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oh, I am so sorry to hear this hf

I'm sure other countries would offer refuge...IF they only knew how serious the situation was

With all this double talk, and attempts to downplay the situation, as if it's just a pesky diesel engine which just needs a few more quarts of oil, the world at large doesn't realize a humanitarian crisis may be brewing

Unfortunately, by the time they do realize the situation, it may be too late for some. This is just so sad, on top of what has already happened....

The first disaster created by nature, no one could do anything. This is being created by the pride of men...and there's no excuse for that.
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Is it just me or do we make too much of evacuating.

Are evacs really that scary??

Organize and deliver. What's the big deal? Round 'em up, move 'em out, seek donations to feed, clothe, and keep 'em clean until they can relocate.

The global populace has already proven they are willing to help but charities have been corrupted. Cut the middle man. If you want to donate be willing to take in a family or adopt a family and assist them with getting on their feet. If the entire planet agreed to this it could work.

Put it this way... If Japan agreed to assist with the cost of relocating say, a family of four, I would be able to take them in. Any locals in my area who wanted to donate could purchase food or clothing then deduct those purchases from their taxes. Local businesses could provide jobs. Check, one family done.

Each family is relocated to the area whose language they know. Attempts can be made to keep extended families together but no guarantees. Skillsets could be factored in.

It seems if politicans aren't benefitted by something they just won't do it. A little too much effort and thinking is needed for them to do their jobs and lead people.

If the northern half of Japan is uninhabitable, what else is there to do?

As I'm typing this it's becoming clear. Who will pay for cancer treatments as they become ill? Who will watch over the families to ensure they are not 'enslaved' by their host families?

Egads... it is scary. What a mess.
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You're like me...I would gladly help a family if they were willing to relocate.

As you said, the charities are mostly corrupt. Government officials are either benignly inept, corrupt, or mired by so much red tape that the supplies rarely get to people when they need it most. This is the same everywhere

Why would we think the Japanese would be any different? Ultimately, in the face of a powerful act of nature, all of our meager contingency plans and flowchart guidelines can dissolve into chaos.

Still, there has to be something that can be done for people trapped in front of this slow-motion wreck, otherwise I will just turn off my computer for a while. It may become too painful to watch...and I'm afraid this won't be the last time we are going to watch things we never imagined could happen in this "high-tech" and "advanced" age.

I truly hope I'm wrong.
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I doubt it would work. For one thing both USA and Japan are "free" societies, with weaker government. The government cannot force people to accept these refugees. Some US families are willing and afaik, nothing prevents them from contacting some Japanese and sending them tickets.

If they wait much longer, the US visa might be an issue.

The Japanese government wants to say the minimum possible in quantifying this disaster because in case blame is pinned on them, damages would be calculated in astronomical amounts.

Furthermore, a mass evacuation of the Tokyo region is impossible. 30 million people, densely settled countryside, probably not a lot of wide highways either.
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A ship that recently passed through the sea around Fukushima (did not stop, just sailed through) was measured to have 3x the normal level of gamma emissions from its engine compartment. Low as this must have been, the entire ship has been quarantined.

Soon Japan will be effectively quarantined, including the people. Or maybe not, I hope not.
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Look what's been rolling out the past few hours.

Freaking train wreck.

Japan must prepare for long battle in Fukushima nuclear power plant crisis [link to mdn.mainichi.jp]


Radiation spreads as crisis likely to continue for "a long time" [link to news.xinhuanet.com]
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Another question on Japan:

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Look what's been rolling out the past few hours.

Freaking train wreck.

Japan must prepare for long battle in Fukushima nuclear power plant crisis [link to mdn.mainichi.jp]


Radiation spreads as crisis likely to continue for "a long time" [link to news.xinhuanet.com]
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What I don't understand, is that in the days right after the earthquake, all kinds of experts were interviewed who said that Tepco had only 48 hrs at most to get the situation under control

How come, all of a sudden, they now have weeks and weeks to let this play out?

Anyone?
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A concise answer to the question in the post's title is of course they should.

However, where would half a million Japanese go?

Most of Japan is mountainous and over 80% of Japanese live in cities.

In the mountains there is no infrastructure for 1/2 million Japanese and in the cities there is no spare space.

The alternative is for them to go abroad but I have yet to see other countries offering refuge.

Even if they did, the Japanese are very insular indeed and unlikely to go-even if death results from their actions.

The sad fact is that most of the Japanese with high exposure levels and those that continue to receive high levels means that in the near future, death rates will soar.

I have heard firsthand from a doctor friend that the levels of cancer in Fukui prefecture ( a prefecture with 3-4 reactors) that the cancer rate was double the national average in Japan.

This information is not common knowledge in Japan as the information is snowballed.

It is a tragic situation indeed
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Just thought I would post this tweet I just saw:

@briavila113 Millions of japanese would improve the Uinted States: clean streets and polite neighbors. Wow, what a concept...

joel1923 2 minutes ago


I think many countries would be glad to accept any Japanese who wished to relocate....although I do understand the deep psychic, social and emotional ties which will keep many there. We who live in the New World don't really understand what it is to have 1000+ year roots in a unique country like Japan. It would be incredibly difficult to leave, I imagine. :(
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[link to bbnworldnews.com]

CHRISTOPHER BUSBY: FUKUSHIMA 43 MILE CONTAMINATION LEVELS TWICE AS HIGH AS CHERNOBYL

Prison Planet editor Paul Joseph Watson sits in while Alex is away. Paul talks with Christopher Busby, a British scientist and activist known for his work on the health effects of ionizing radiation.




PART II



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who is the fucking retard who put loud music over them talking?





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