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Was Jesus simply one of the first con artists? | |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1111431  Spain04/02/2011 07:06 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1324854  Australia04/02/2011 07:09 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What is more plausible? A man who was an all power being, performed miracles, then died for all humanity and rose from the dead? Or a man and a rag tag bunch of clever opportunists ran some cons on stupid people until they got busted? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1111431Neither. Simply someone who was awake enough to be His truth, and went down in history for it. We can do it too. Don't be like your parents ^-^. |
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| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 1111431 Spain04/02/2011 07:12 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What is more plausible? A man who was an all power being, performed miracles, then died for all humanity and rose from the dead? Or a man and a rag tag bunch of clever opportunists ran some cons on stupid people until they got busted? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1111431Neither. Simply someone who was awake enough to be His truth, and went down in history for it. We can do it too. Don't be like your parents ^-^. I have no idea what you are on about. My parents were good people by the way (mom was a nurse, pop was a driver for the disabled). A shame I guess that they are now being tortured for eternity in hellfire. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1324836 United States04/02/2011 07:14 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | yes. Jesus of Nazareth was nothing but an itinerant guru (for which we see many parallels in this modern day), and he stirred up a lot of shit, and the authorities nailed him to a cross, and then all of his friends made a hero out of him, and then 300 years latter the Emperor Constantine co-opted the "Cult of Jesus" to prop up the authority of his rule. (and since there ain't no God, he cerainly can't be the "son of God") |
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| Former Atheist User ID: 1324900  Canada04/02/2011 08:10 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | That's funny -- accusing Jesus of being a con artist was exactly what most of the Jews in his day (who are likely now burning in hell) used to accuse him of being. But to answer your question -- no, Jesus is definitely no fraud. He was and is the greatest human being who ever lived. His power to perform miracles came from God, not from himself or from demons. You don't have to wait until you're dead to know the truth about Jesus -- it's in the Bible and in your heart. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1324836 United States04/02/2011 08:14 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | That's funny -- accusing Jesus of being a con artist was exactly what most of the Jews in his day (who are likely now burning in hell) used to accuse him of being. Quoting: Former Atheist 1324900But to answer your question -- no, Jesus is definitely no fraud. He was and is the greatest human being who ever lived. His power to perform miracles came from God, not from himself or from demons. You don't have to wait until you're dead to know the truth about Jesus -- it's in the Bible and in your heart.  |
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Judethz
 User ID: 1324909  United Kingdom04/02/2011 08:20 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | That's funny -- accusing Jesus of being a con artist was exactly what most of the Jews in his day (who are likely now burning in hell) used to accuse him of being. Quoting: Former Atheist 1324900But to answer your question -- no, Jesus is definitely no fraud. He was and is the greatest human being who ever lived. His power to perform miracles came from God, not from himself or from demons. You don't have to wait until you're dead to know the truth about Jesus -- it's in the Bible and in your heart.  Well said Former Atheist. The Lord is alive in my heart too. |
| godsaveme
User ID: 1324830 United Kingdom04/02/2011 08:22 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | hhhmmmnnn yes a con artist that drove demons into pigs that ran off a cliff into a river , he trained them well a conartist that cured a blindman who was blind all his life he was bouncing into things for 30 years for the blag ..lol yes a conman who is soon to comeback so that would make him over 2000 years old , yes brillian conman you gutless turd .. get a life " Are you really worthy enough to enter " or are you kidding yourself ... |
| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 1111431 Spain04/02/2011 08:24 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | hhhmmmnnn yes a con artist that drove demons into pigs that ran off a cliff into a river , he trained them well Quoting: godsavemea conartist that cured a blindman who was blind all his life he was bouncing into things for 30 years for the blag ..lol yes a conman who is soon to comeback so that would make him over 2000 years old , yes brillian conman you gutless turd .. get a life All unsubstantiated fairy tales. Just look here: [link to i.imgur.com] |
| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 1111431 Spain04/02/2011 08:25 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | That's funny -- accusing Jesus of being a con artist was exactly what most of the Jews in his day (who are likely now burning in hell) used to accuse him of being. Quoting: Former Atheist 1324900But to answer your question -- no, Jesus is definitely no fraud. He was and is the greatest human being who ever lived. His power to perform miracles came from God, not from himself or from demons. You don't have to wait until you're dead to know the truth about Jesus -- it's in the Bible and in your heart. You mean this bible? [link to i.imgur.com] Ok, no thanks. Wow, you base your entire life on ^^^ Tragic. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1324836 United States04/02/2011 08:25 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | hhhmmmnnn yes a con artist that drove demons into pigs that ran off a cliff into a river , he trained them well Quoting: godsavemea conartist that cured a blindman who was blind all his life he was bouncing into things for 30 years for the blag ..lol yes a conman who is soon to comeback so that would make him over 2000 years old , yes brillian conman you gutless turd .. get a life didn't he pull a rabbit out of his ass once, too? |
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| godsaveme
User ID: 1324830 United Kingdom04/02/2011 09:10 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | hhhmmmnnn yes a con artist that drove demons into pigs that ran off a cliff into a river , he trained them well Quoting: godsavemea conartist that cured a blindman who was blind all his life he was bouncing into things for 30 years for the blag ..lol yes a conman who is soon to comeback so that would make him over 2000 years old , yes brillian conman you gutless turd .. get a life All unsubstantiated fairy tales. Just look here: [link to i.imgur.com] well when he comes back and will be like 200 years old and the sky lights up dont forget to tell him that hahahahahaha gulible idiots " Are you really worthy enough to enter " or are you kidding yourself ... |
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| godsaveme
User ID: 1324830 United Kingdom04/02/2011 09:10 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | hhhmmmnnn yes a con artist that drove demons into pigs that ran off a cliff into a river , he trained them well Quoting: godsavemea conartist that cured a blindman who was blind all his life he was bouncing into things for 30 years for the blag ..lol yes a conman who is soon to comeback so that would make him over 2000 years old , yes brillian conman you gutless turd .. get a life didn't he pull a rabbit out of his ass once, too? your mums dead " Are you really worthy enough to enter " or are you kidding yourself ... |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1153822 United States04/02/2011 09:13 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | That's funny -- accusing Jesus of being a con artist was exactly what most of the Jews in his day (who are likely now burning in hell) used to accuse him of being. Quoting: Former Atheist 1324900But to answer your question -- no, Jesus is definitely no fraud. He was and is the greatest human being who ever lived. His power to perform miracles came from God, not from himself or from demons. You don't have to wait until you're dead to know the truth about Jesus -- it's in the Bible and in your heart. Do you know him personaly? because you have no clue.. you are just going by what some fake book tells you.. No one know.. and you wont until you die.. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1113553 United States04/02/2011 09:17 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I was raised by a con artist, and I must say after careful study of the Bible imo, everything 'miraculous' that was done by Jesus could have EASILY been trickery, or con artistry on a level yet experienced by primitives. The first con artists would have definitely been seen as god like or performing miracles. One could say, he was ahead of his time. Run the con, enjoy the spoils, play the pious & holy card too. It must have been a hell of a ride while it lasted, behind closed doors with the spoils, celebrating, endless whores. His crucifixion was probably nothing more than his finally getting busted and punished for it. Likely screwed with the wrong guy or guys and got turned in. The stories that followed dissipated yet got morphed over time and word of mouth. The cons lost their origin and became 'real' due to corruption of the actual story events and passing of time. Occam's Razor folks. What is more plausible? A man who was an all power being, performed miracles, then died for all humanity and rose from the dead? Or a man and a rag tag bunch of clever opportunists ran some cons on stupid people until they got busted? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1111431"Clever opportunists" don't die painful, torturous deaths for a con, especially when all they have to do is simply refute it to live. |
| Former Atheist User ID: 1324900 Canada04/02/2011 09:22 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | That's funny -- accusing Jesus of being a con artist was exactly what most of the Jews in his day (who are likely now burning in hell) used to accuse him of being. Quoting: Former Atheist 1324900But to answer your question -- no, Jesus is definitely no fraud. He was and is the greatest human being who ever lived. His power to perform miracles came from God, not from himself or from demons. You don't have to wait until you're dead to know the truth about Jesus -- it's in the Bible and in your heart. Do you know him personaly? because you have no clue.. you are just going by what some fake book tells you.. No one know.. and you wont until you die.. Yes, actually, I do know Jesus personally. He's my Lord and Saviour as well as my big brother and best friend. I didn't get to know him through a book, I got to know him through God's spirit. What I read about him in the Bible just fills in some details. By the way, OP -- thanks for keeping Jesus in the headlines! No such thing as bad press. :0)  |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1153822 United States04/02/2011 09:25 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | That's funny -- accusing Jesus of being a con artist was exactly what most of the Jews in his day (who are likely now burning in hell) used to accuse him of being. Quoting: Former Atheist 1324900But to answer your question -- no, Jesus is definitely no fraud. He was and is the greatest human being who ever lived. His power to perform miracles came from God, not from himself or from demons. You don't have to wait until you're dead to know the truth about Jesus -- it's in the Bible and in your heart. Do you know him personaly? because you have no clue.. you are just going by what some fake book tells you.. No one know.. and you wont until you die.. Yes, actually, I do know Jesus personally. He's my Lord and Saviour as well as my big brother and best friend. I didn't get to know him through a book, I got to know him through God's spirit. What I read about him in the Bible just fills in some details. By the way, OP -- thanks for keeping Jesus in the headlines! No such thing as bad press. :0) Well the tards are still falling for the con.. you are doing tptb proud biblethumper.. and you dont know him personaly.. does he pop in and take to you? Ask you how your day is, whats on your mind or do you just get on your knees like a good slave and just say it |
| hoot no more/hasheater User ID: 1324950  Switzerland04/02/2011 09:34 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I was raised by a con artist, and I must say after careful study of the Bible imo, everything 'miraculous' that was done by Jesus could have EASILY been trickery, or con artistry on a level yet experienced by primitives. The first con artists would have definitely been seen as god like or performing miracles. One could say, he was ahead of his time. Run the con, enjoy the spoils, play the pious & holy card too. It must have been a hell of a ride while it lasted, behind closed doors with the spoils, celebrating, endless whores. His crucifixion was probably nothing more than his finally getting busted and punished for it. Likely screwed with the wrong guy or guys and got turned in. The stories that followed dissipated yet got morphed over time and word of mouth. The cons lost their origin and became 'real' due to corruption of the actual story events and passing of time. Occam's Razor folks. What is more plausible? A man who was an all power being, performed miracles, then died for all humanity and rose from the dead? Or a man and a rag tag bunch of clever opportunists ran some cons on stupid people until they got busted? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1111431"Clever opportunists" don't die painful, torturous deaths for a con, especially when all they have to do is simply refute it to live. Well the real skinny is that he had a dumb patsy "lookalike" take the fall.........dude called Simple Simon......and they kept the crowds far enough away[just this time]not to see the switch |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1157230 Australia04/02/2011 09:38 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1113553 United States04/02/2011 09:43 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I was raised by a con artist, and I must say after careful study of the Bible imo, everything 'miraculous' that was done by Jesus could have EASILY been trickery, or con artistry on a level yet experienced by primitives. The first con artists would have definitely been seen as god like or performing miracles. One could say, he was ahead of his time. Run the con, enjoy the spoils, play the pious & holy card too. It must have been a hell of a ride while it lasted, behind closed doors with the spoils, celebrating, endless whores. His crucifixion was probably nothing more than his finally getting busted and punished for it. Likely screwed with the wrong guy or guys and got turned in. The stories that followed dissipated yet got morphed over time and word of mouth. The cons lost their origin and became 'real' due to corruption of the actual story events and passing of time. Occam's Razor folks. What is more plausible? A man who was an all power being, performed miracles, then died for all humanity and rose from the dead? Or a man and a rag tag bunch of clever opportunists ran some cons on stupid people until they got busted? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1111431"Clever opportunists" don't die painful, torturous deaths for a con, especially when all they have to do is simply refute it to live. Well the real skinny is that he had a dumb patsy "lookalike" take the fall.........dude called Simple Simon......and they kept the crowds far enough away[just this time]not to see the switch I was talking about the disciples. All but one or two were martyred for their witness for Jesus. Being such "clever opportunists", and suddenly they were too dumb to say "Hey! It was just a con!"??? Um. NO. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1324900 Canada04/02/2011 10:08 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | That's funny -- accusing Jesus of being a con artist was exactly what most of the Jews in his day (who are likely now burning in hell) used to accuse him of being. Quoting: Former Atheist 1324900But to answer your question -- no, Jesus is definitely no fraud. He was and is the greatest human being who ever lived. His power to perform miracles came from God, not from himself or from demons. You don't have to wait until you're dead to know the truth about Jesus -- it's in the Bible and in your heart. Do you know him personaly? because you have no clue.. you are just going by what some fake book tells you.. No one know.. and you wont until you die.. Yes, actually, I do know Jesus personally. He's my Lord and Saviour as well as my big brother and best friend. I didn't get to know him through a book, I got to know him through God's spirit. What I read about him in the Bible just fills in some details. By the way, OP -- thanks for keeping Jesus in the headlines! No such thing as bad press. :0) Well the tards are still falling for the con.. you are doing tptb proud biblethumper.. and you dont know him personaly.. does he pop in and take to you? Ask you how your day is, whats on your mind or do you just get on your knees like a good slave and just say it I'm not a slave. I serve God willingly, and I can at any time choose not to serve him, as I still have free will (as we all do while we're here on Earth). However, having once (unwittingly) served the forces of evil as an atheist and suffered horribly for it (including feeling it was my right to abuse people, physically, verbally, and in writing), I have no intention of ever doing that again. For me, it's God or nothing. I choose to serve God. |
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| DemogorgonIsLord
User ID: 1233159 Switzerland04/02/2011 02:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | That's funny -- accusing Jesus of being a con artist was exactly what most of the Jews in his day (who are likely now burning in hell) used to accuse him of being. Quoting: Former Atheist 1324900that's also what the Mandeans claim. DEMOGORGON is your personal heavenly drinking buddy. HE IS THE ALPHA THE OMEGA, A-to-Z, SOUP TO NUTS GOD THAT CAN DO WONDERS FOR YOUR SEX LIFE. |
