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Millions Disappear! Governments in Chaos!

 
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Dateline (soon): In an unprecedented happening of incredible magnitude, millions of people disappeared yesterday from their homes, schools and everyday activities. These disappearances were not limited to any single geographic location, ethnic group or socio-economic class. In America, the losses were staggering as every type of transportation and industry was affected. Undisclosed officials stated that the losses would have been much worse if the disappearances had not happened during late evening hours. As it was, there was still substantial loss of life as automobiles and buses careened out of control when their drivers were found to no longer be at the wheel. Similarly, a number of “red-eye” airplane flights dropped from the sky when flight crews disappeared from their posts.



At the approximate time of the disappearances (estimated to be at 2:00 a.m. EST), most daily activities had come to a halt and loss of services was not crucial except for those industries that commence and maintain operations during early morning hours such as newspapers, transportation loading, trucking, all night diners and round-the-clock stores.



The same could not be said for Europe, Asia and Australia where disappearances occurred during daylight hours. However, for some unexplained reason, the number of disappearances, while still numerous, were not so large as to cripple ongoing daily activities. A number of automobile and other transportation accidents were reported but the loss of life was deemed to be manageable. Reports issued by key officials in the European Union indicated that governmental services should resume shortly; the public at large was asked to remain calm.



Several unnamed governmental sources stated that contrary to assertions being made by so-called “right-wing religious fanatics”, these disappearances had a rational explanation that would be released very shortly. Certain well-placed individuals at the United Nations asserted that these disappearances could be tied to recent military arms development that had been taking place not only in the United States but also Russia, China and the European Union. These same individuals believed that a world-wide outcry would soon take place demanding that any and all armaments of every kind and nature whatsoever, including everything from personal weaponry to weapons of mass destruction (WMD), be placed under the auspices of the United Nations. One senior U. N. official stated that:



“We have known for a long time that certain imperialistic countries such as the United States have been working on weapons that could basically incinerate human flesh leaving no trace of a person’s existence. These weapons can essentially use a person’s DNA against them by ripping each cell apart and dissipating it into the atmosphere. The primary purpose of these weapons is to remove any trace of the human element while leaving infrastructure such as roads, bridges, buildings and industrial assets intact. With the United States leading the way in the development of these monstrous weapons, it is only fitting that America pay the greatest price and suffer the greatest loss of life.



It has been common conjecture amongst other nations that the invasion of Afghanistan and then Iraq by the United States was merely a right-wing political ploy to seize oil reserves in the Middle East and to position America militarily so that it could dominate world-wide energy markets. The United States has recognized the threat of the growing Chinese economic base and rather than compete fairly in open markets, the United States chose to assert its military influence while it still could. With the disappearance of senior political officials, including the President and Vice President, it now appears that this policy has been short-circuited and justice has finally been served.”



In light of these disappearances, it was suggested by these same officials that the time had come for all of mankind to come together and resolve global differences. “We no longer have the luxury of thinking of ourselves as belonging to a particular country or ethnic group. Nationalism no longer has a place in our civilized world. We must pool our resources and work together for the common good,” said a senior political consultant for the United Nations. He believed that an official statement would be issued by the appropriate authorities within the Security Council shortly. He also believed that this official statement would call upon all nations to surrender their sovereignty to the United Nations where each nation state would be represented and could therefore, work together in averting further calamity, administering aid and enforcing martial law until global stability could be realized.



In another surprising development, a mid-level official designated by the European Union will address the full membership of the United Nations next week. Some believe that this address will now be modified to deal with the global disappearances that took place yesterday and the outlook for a new global community and the increased role of the United Nations.



Section A, Page 2: Congressional Response Swift to Disappearances



Remaining Congressional leaders spoke early this morning to representatives of the major news outlets in a hastily called news conference. One prominent Senator stated:



“From what we can tell, we have lost about fifty percent of our membership to these disappearances. Additionally, several members of the President’s Cabinet and his Joint Chiefs of Staff cannot be found. While we believe that these disappearances have a perfectly reasonable explanation, we still want to take every precaution. We also want to assure the American people that the government will transition through these times and will continue to function. Everyone should remain calm and let us do our jobs. We anticipate that the Congress will meet in emergency session until such time as we have drafted a plan for dealing with this crisis. In the meantime, we welcome the input and possible intervention of the United Nations in helping us through this difficulty.”



Another Representative from the State of New York commented on speculation that these disappearances were somehow related to divine intervention. In an early morning meeting, he said, “Speculation of this kind is not just counterproductive but actually harmful. I really do not put much credence into these types of comments. If this were true, I daresay ninety percent of Americans would not be here today. Everyone knows that most Americans are basically good people. We are the ones who have always stepped in to help others in times of trouble. If God was going to take the good people, then many of us who remain would not be here. I therefore reject this explanation for these disappearances.”



Another Senator who did not wish to be identified and spoke under condition of anonymity stated, “I am actually quite concerned about these developments. I have not been able to reach certain members of my own family and these family members were always considered to be a little different because of their religious beliefs.”



One high-ranking public official observed, “Most of those who have disappeared were people who stood in the way of a more progressive political agenda. It looks like these are the same people who wanted to set women’s rights back by banning abortion, who thought that we should support so-called “faith based initiatives” with tax dollars, who did not believe in tolerance and diversity and who led us into a war that we did not need. It is clear that we should have pursued diplomatic efforts in dealing with our Muslim neighbors; we offended them by influencing their nation’s policies and effectively occupied them to our own advantage. If there is a God, not that I believe there is, then he would certainly be justified in removing these people from our planet.” This viewpoint was echoed by many other staffers on Capitol Hill. One, in fact, stated, “We should look on this as an opportunity and not a tragedy. We can now move forward with a progressive, moderate agenda without interference from right-wing fringe groups and religious fanatics.”



Section C, Page 9: Fanatics Claim Disappearances to be Supernatural



Reaction to yesterday’s disappearances came swiftly from individuals claiming that the disappearances were caused by supernatural or “other worldly” encounters. One individual who declined to be named stated, “I heard that this might happen sometime but I never put much stock in it. My sister claimed that Jesus was going to come again and take his people home with him. I haven’t been able to get a hold of my sister since yesterday but I just know that can’t be the case. I’ve been a church-goer for the last year and I’m still here. I mean, wouldn’t I be gone too if that were the case?”



Another claimed that the disappearances were tied to direct intervention by extra-terrestrial life forms. He stated, “With the rise in UFO sightings lately, it only makes sense that they might come and take a bunch of people. We’ve been seeing it for years but the government’s been covering it up ever since that Roswell incident. No sir, this doesn’t surprise me at all.”



Local officials declined comment stating only that the people claiming that the disappearances were tied to UFO sightings or the appearance of Jesus were at best, misinformed, and at worst, mentally unbalanced. These officials indicated that they would await word from Federal authorities before making any official statement on the disappearances.



Fairy Tale or Prophecy?



At first blush it certainly seems like a fairy tale, doesn’t it? Millions of people disappear in an instant leaving a very large segment of the earth’s population intact. Many people think that it makes for a fanciful tale but it could never happen. There is no historical record of anything like this happening before. We have absolutely no demonstrable evidence that such a thing could occur. Am I right?



It is true that we have no record of such a happening but that doesn’t mean that it will never happen. Quite to the contrary, it is predicted and everyone is staking not just their lives, but their eternal existence on the answer to this question. In the Olivet Discourse, Jesus stated:



36 "No one knows about that day or hour, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father. 37 As it was in the days of Noah, so it will be at the coming of the Son of Man. 38 For in the days before the flood, people were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, up to the day Noah entered the ark; 39 and they knew nothing about what would happen until the flood came and took them all away. That is how it will be at the coming of the Son of Man. 40 Two men will be in the field; one will be taken and the other left. 41 Two women will be grinding with a hand mill; one will be taken and the other left. Matt 24:36-41 (NIV)



From a historical perspective, it is interesting to note what Jesus had to say just before He predicted the rapture or “snatching away.” He foresaw the destruction of the Temple by the Roman Empire in AD 70. What He predicted literally came to pass; the Temple was destroyed and not one stone was left upon another. The reason this happened was that the Temple was sacked and burned and gold melted and ran into the spaces between the blocks of stone. Those stones were dissembled in order to remove the gold.



24:1 Jesus left the temple and was walking away when his disciples came up to him to call his attention to its buildings. 2 "Do you see all these things?" he asked. "I tell you the truth, not one stone here will be left on another; every one will be thrown down." Matt. 24:1-2 (NIV)



The bottom line is that this prophecy came to pass just as did all the other prophecies contained within the Bible including numerous predictions about the birth, life and death of Jesus. Therefore, it is reasonable to assume that this prediction will also be fulfilled in the future.



The disciples next posed the question concerning the end of the age. Jesus had been clear saying that no one, except the Father, knew when the exact time would be but there would be signs of His coming.



3 As Jesus was sitting on the Mount of Olives, the disciples came to him privately. "Tell us," they said, "when will this happen, and what will be the sign of your coming and of the end of the age?" 4 Jesus answered: "Watch out that no one deceives you. 5 For many will come in my name, claiming, ´I am the Christ,´ and will deceive many. 6 You will hear of wars and rumors of wars, but see to it that you are not alarmed. Such things must happen, but the end is still to come. 7 Nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom. There will be famines and earthquakes in various places. 8 All these are the beginning of birth pains. 9 "Then you will be handed over to be persecuted and put to death, and you will be hated by all nations because of me. 10 At that time many will turn away from the faith and will betray and hate each other, 11 and many false prophets will appear and deceive many people. 12 Because of the increase of wickedness, the love of most will grow cold, 13 but he who stands firm to the end will be saved. 14 And this gospel of the kingdom will be preached in the whole world as a testimony to all nations, and then the end will come. Matt. 24:3-14 (NIV)



We know that the earth, throughout its history, has experienced false messiahs, war, famine, earthquakes and wickedness. However, it seems that these events intensified over the last century. For the first time in recorded history, we had world wars. Earthquakes swarm resulting in widespread destruction and loss of life; false messiahs abound; famine persists despite our technological advances; wickedness runs rampant; and apathy thrives.



Jesus also said that the love of most would grow cold and that the gospel would be preached to the whole world. With these things, the end of the (church) age would come.



Following his prediction, Jesus admonished his disciples to be vigilant. It is important to remain ready because Jesus is going to come again when it is least expected.



42 "Therefore keep watch, because you do not know on what day your Lord will come. 43 But understand this: If the owner of the house had known at what time of night the thief was coming, he would have kept watch and would not have let his house be broken into. 44 So you also must be ready, because the Son of Man will come at an hour when you do not expect him. Matt. 24:42-44 (NIV)



I suspect that if you asked most Christians if they thought Jesus was coming today, the answer you would get would be “no.” Everybody seems to have their own plan or agenda but God has His timeline. It is important to live with anticipation, with the expectation that Jesus is going to come again. We do not know the time but we do know the season.



32 "Now learn this lesson from the fig tree: As soon as its twigs get tender and its leaves come out, you know that summer is near. 33 Even so, when you see all these things, you know that it is near, right at the door. Matt. 24:32-34 (NIV)



I know a number of people who would not think of gambling on anything for any amount of money. Yet, they are willing to stake their eternal existence on a bet. The bet is that God will think that they are good enough to be let into His kingdom or better yet, that God is a fiction. These people would not even consider a speculative investment but they refuse to invest in the only endeavor that will pay an eternal reward. They have heard the truth and they even know the price, but they refuse to respond.



I awake with the anticipation each day that it may be my last. I want to experience the Rapture of the saints. I want to leave this world behind. I want to go home with my wife and children, my other family members and my friends. I want to see those who have gone on before me.



I also know that many people will not respond to God’s call unless something truly startling and miraculous happens. That is why I pray each day for the Rapture. My prayer each day is, “Lord Jesus, please come.” Thist is the only way that many will finally come to Christ. They will suffer through the Tribulation and most of them will die, but it will be worth it. I will take the eternal over the temporal any time. Wouldn’t you?
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12/08/2005 10:09 AM
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Back in 92 i was doing standup
rapture material
ahead of my time, i know..

was working for lawyers..

rapture could have happened and it
would be
business as usual for them?

THIS is the most divisive of all
DIVISION is the mark of the beast
you think YOU are chosen?
that´s when you aren´t
sorry
no dice

Personally like to see all these rapture folks locked up in a room together... for eternity.. heaven or hell?
you be the judge
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12/08/2005 10:09 AM
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Rapture = Change in YOURSELF.

Becoming AWARE.

Damn, it sure does comes like a thief in the night...

(or rather for me it was an afternoon, & suddenly the clouds started smiling at me)

stoner
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OP, you dumb fucktard, I knew that was a tall tale even before I read that the pResidents "staff" had disapeared. Everyone knows that God isn´t going to take them evil fuckers up to heaven, so dream on rapture boy and when you wake up in the middle of the shit storm this fucking administration has caused, you´ll find out your WRONG.
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Locked up????

Heaven or Hell????


Now is NOT a time to be a fence sitter.

Look up.. and wake up

Trust Jesus and you will see heaven.

Not choicing is a choice
Being annoyed or unconcerned with the truth
you will see you´ll eventually find hell here on earth and looking for you.
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The biggest deception ever to hit the church has borne its ugly fruit. You belivers in the rapture are in for a nasty surprise.

For the coming of the Lord will NOT happen until AFTER tha man of sin is revealed...and we WILL have persecution and tribulation....if you would stop being so selfish in thinking you can just be a good christian and "dissappear" in the pre trib rapture...YOU ARE DEAD WRONG!! dead being the key word.

But all you have to do is read it in the bible...its plain for all to see. But you for the most part are foolish virgins...asleep...lazy....and thinking you are somehow qualified to never suffer anything. You weak minded and lazy lambs. READ YOUR BIBLES and OPEN YOUR EYES...and for Jesus sake...TRIM YOUR LAMPS.
He will come like a theif...it will be like a snare to ALL (you included) who dwell on the earth. THATS what Jesus meant by BE READY. Read on.


Thank you dream seeker for your interpretation. I know the dreams were fairly straight forward but I had to say them. I have had other dreams like this but they were of a local nature. I know what will happen because I had ten dreams like this in total....eight have happned exactly as dreamed...EXACTLY. 911....iraq.....boxing day tsunami and so on. Every major event I have already seen. I just did not get the dates for their happenings. I was always told "soon". Going by how fast the others have happnned I KNOW we have only two years left TOPS. The next big event will be in israel. WATCH IT UNFOLD because it will be the start of WW3.

Soon after the entire pacific rim will be washed away in a series of immense tsunamis. The entire east coast of Australia and the entire west coast of america will be absolutley WIPED CLEAN.

Nothing within 200 kilometers of any pacific coastline will exist unscathed.
This will happen next year I feel. But the thing about it was this...there was NO warning given. It just up and wiped everything away. An ordinary day like today. Everyone was glued to the TV because of the events in Israel..and then DOOM. It hit fast and just kept on hitting. It was not just one tsunami. There were at least twelve and the last ones were the biggest. 200 ks inland...all gone just like that.

And I AM ready. I know who I am and I know now what my task will be in these last days. But you will only find out after you have had to face the horrible TRUTH that there will be no rapture...at least not when you expect it. We DO have some tribulation to go through. I saw the final event too...the return of christ...and the rapture. It is NOT when you think it will be...but after it happens you will be saying "now...THAT makes sense" Gods timing is perfect. The key word here is LAST TRUMPET.
Look it up and all scripture pertaining to it. Your pre trib rapture is the reason for the great falling away. You will VERY VERY SOON find out the HARD way. Unless you trim your lamps now and learn the TRUTH....you will be left outside with all the others who did not make themselves ready. Beware the great deception.

Laugh and sneer and mock as you like. All I feel is sorrow for you that you will not be awake when the time comes to BE awake. You will slumber on while your lamps burn low..all the while pating yourselves on the back at how wonderful it is to be saved and not doomed like these "miserable unbelievers."

You will be judged as you judge others.

And for those who are not saved and who do not know christ...GET to know him and be quick about it.

You do not need to "find" him in a church. In fact most churches today preach nothing but drivel and money. Evey YOU know that.
The way to find Jesus is first... Admit He is real. Once you have that settled ask Him to SHOW you His reality. IF you are serious...VERY serious...He is bound by His own words and His own promise to do so.
You will NOT be dissapointed providing you are for real. Once He has lived up to His end of the brgain you must then live up to yours.
Ask for His mercy and grace and accept what He did for you on the cross.

There is nothing "magical" about it. Its simply an eternal contract entered into between You and Jesus. Once this contract is signed...with your true repentance...you will find jesus not only to be VERY VERY real....but also the most loving and compassionate friend you could imagine.

He will never hold anyhting you have done or will do against you ever again...because He paid the price for your freedom already. You no longer have to be" good" because we can do NOTHING to earn salvation. Just read His word and you will find that soon...the good will just happen naturally. All you have to do is trust Him and nurture a friendship with Him and He will NEVER let you down...only YOU will if you take your focus off Him and look at how "sinful" you are.

And for those who know Him or think you do....BEWARE...for the great apostacy is upon us.
The rapture will NOT happen right at the start. Cant you see the LIE? When it all begins many will suddenly lose faith and betray one another to death...WHY? Because the rubbish Satanic doctrine of the rapture will have soaked your minds SO much that when it fails to eventuate...and you realise you have been LIED to by your own pastors who in turn were lied to...you will fall away because your faith will fail. You will turn on the church in hate and anger. Satan will then totally possess you...and you will be dobbing in every REAL christian just to save your own neck...or to get revenge for the lies you have been sold. This is what Jesus warned about...the trimming of the lamps and the foolish virgins. The time will come when you will NEED DESPERATLY more oil....right after the trib begins. You will have wasted your time in conventions and meeting congratulating yourself in how spiritulal you are...and all your oil will be gone. Those who MADE READY and prepared spiritually for these times will be on top...singing and praising God even while they are martyred. And you lukewarm world loving self decieved conceited "religious" christians...the ones who give the REAL christians a bad name...will be clamouring in horror saying to the real believers....GIVE US YOUR OIL...we need a word from the Lord. But the real christians will only have enough to keep them going till the last trumpet...the rapture. So they will tell you...go and BUY some...isnt that what your churches preached? To buy your way into Gods blessings with your MONEY? But by then it will be FAR TOO LATE. For just when you have been repenting..or trying to...the groom will show up and all the oil in the world will avail you nothing. You will be left outside the gate...while the bowls of WRATH are poured out on the WICKED...and you will be numbered among them.

Read every reference to the lords coming and the last trumpet. Use a concordance....and STUDY it....see through the lie. DO NOT go by any other book or any other interpretation of it...the bible is VERY clear on the subject...EXPLECITLY clear.
And when you wake up and realise the SIZE of the Lie that Satan has masterminded...you will finally understand what jesus meant when He said
"When the son of man comes...will he find faith in the earth?"

I am afraid He will find little because most faith will be GONE by the time He shows up. This is WHY he has no scruples about pouring out the bowls as He comes simply because by that time...only THE WICKED are left....oh..I forgot to mention...AND THE HYPPOCRITES!!!
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8/26/2005
8:45 am EDT Re: The dream and the great falling away. Ignore this thread at your peril.

Time is a luxury you no longer possess.
For so very long it has always been "soon".
But now...the "soon" has become the "now".
The day of reckoning is finally upon the world.
And there is NO escape...and nowhere to run.
Except to Jesus.....your ONLY hope.
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"I awake with the anticipation each day that it may be my last. I want to experience the Rapture of the saints. I want to leave this world behind. I want to go home with my wife and children, my other family members and my friends. I want to see those who have gone on before me"

Not to be divisive, but I think it´s important that Christians realize that there is not some "different" group of unconfessed Christians that will seek God because of the rapture and then suffer through the tribulation.

Christians living today are the Christians who will suffer through the tribulation. Though we don´t know the hour or the day, we will know the season, as 1Thes. 5:4 says:

But ye, brethren, are not in darkness, that that day should overtake you as a thief.

We who are sober will see the signs and we will be ready, but not for a rapture.

1 Thes. 4:15 reads:

For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep.

Key words here are alive and remain. The word remain is the Greek word Perileipo and it means to survive. This is what the "few" Christians who are alive will be doing; Surviving.

Also, notice the parallel in the story of Lot and Noah.

Luke 17
And as it was in the days of Noe, so shall it be also in the days of the Son of man.
17:27
They did eat, they drank, they married wives, they were given in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark, and the flood came, and destroyed them all.
17:28
Likewise also as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold, they planted, they builded;
17:29
But the same day that Lot went out of Sodom it rained fire and brimstone from heaven, and destroyed them all.
17:30
Even thus shall it be in the day when the Son of man is revealed.


Notice, the very day that Noah entered the ark was THE day that the flood (God´s judgment)destroyed "them all."

Also, the same day that Lot left Sodom was the exact day that God destroyed the inhabitants therein.

Likewise, verse 30 states, "thus shall it be in the day when the Son of man is revealed."

The very day that Christians are raised to meet the Lord in the air will be the very day that God´s judgment on the inhabitants of the earth takes place.

So be prepared, mentally. Don´t expect to be whisked away just in time to miss the tribulation that is going to befall us.

The disciples were not expecting an imminent return of Jesus; especially Peter. What did Jesus tell Peter in John 21:18?

"Verily, verily, I say unto thee, When thou wast young, thou girdedst thyself, and walkedst whither thou wouldest: but when thou shalt be old, thou shalt stretch forth thy hands, and another shall gird thee, and carry thee whither thou wouldest not."

He prophesied to Peter, telling him what would happen to him as an old man.

Peter was expecting old age, not the imminent return of Jesus.

So be prepared, not for the rapture, but for the suffering that must take place before we enter the kingdom of heaven.

"Confirming the souls of the disciples, and exhorting them to continue in the faith, and that we must through much tribulation enter into the kingdom of God." Acts 14:22
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THE LIE!!!!



Millions Disappear! Governments in Chaos!

Dateline (soon): In an unprecedented happening of incredible magnitude, millions of people disappeared yesterday from their homes, schools and everyday activities. These disappearances were not limited to any single geographic location, ethnic group or socio-economic class. In America, the losses were staggering as every type of transportation and industry was affected. Undisclosed officials stated that the losses would have been much worse if the disappearances had not happened during late evening hours. As it was, there was still substantial loss of life as automobiles and buses careened out of control when their drivers were found to no longer be at the wheel. Similarly, a number of “red-eye” airplane flights dropped from the sky when flight crews disappeared from their posts.
At the approximate time of the disappearances (estimated to be at 2:00 a.m. EST), most daily activities had come to a halt and loss of services was not crucial except for those industries that commence and maintain operations during early morning hours such as newspapers, transportation loading, trucking, all night diners and round-the-clock stores.
The same could not be said for Europe, Asia and Australia where disappearances occurred during daylight hours. However, for some unexplained reason, the number of disappearances, while still numerous, were not so large as to cripple ongoing daily activities. A number of automobile and other transportation accidents were reported but the loss of life was deemed to be manageable. Reports issued by key officials in the European Union indicated that governmental services should resume shortly; the public at large was asked to remain calm.
Several unnamed governmental sources stated that contrary to assertions being made by so-called “right-wing religious fanatics”, these disappearances had a rational explanation that would be released very shortly. Certain well-placed individuals at the United Nations asserted that these disappearances could be tied to recent military arms development that had been taking place not only in the United States but also Russia, China and the European Union. These same individuals believed that a world-wide outcry would soon take place demanding that any and all armaments of every kind and nature whatsoever, including everything from personal weaponry to weapons of mass destruction (WMD), be placed under the auspices of the United Nations. One senior U. N. official stated that:
“We have known for a long time that certain imperialistic countries such as the United States have been working on weapons that could basically incinerate human flesh leaving no trace of a person’s existence. These weapons can essentially use a person’s DNA against them by ripping each cell apart and dissipating it into the atmosphere. The primary purpose of these weapons is to remove any trace of the human element while leaving infrastructure such as roads, bridges, buildings and industrial assets intact. With the United States leading the way in the development of these monstrous weapons, it is only fitting that America pay the greatest price and suffer the greatest loss of life.
It has been common conjecture amongst other nations that the invasion of Afghanistan and then Iraq by the United States was merely a right-wing political ploy to seize oil reserves in the Middle East and to position America militarily so that it could dominate world-wide energy markets. The United States has recognized the threat of the growing Chinese economic base and rather than compete fairly in open markets, the United States chose to assert its military influence while it still could. With the disappearance of senior political officials, including the President and Vice President, it now appears that this policy has been short-circuited and justice has finally been served.”
In light of these disappearances, it was suggested by these same officials that the time had come for all of mankind to come together and resolve global differences. “We no longer have the luxury of thinking of ourselves as belonging to a particular country or ethnic group. Nationalism no longer has a place in our civilized world. We must pool our resources and work together for the common good,” said a senior political consultant for the United Nations. He believed that an official statement would be issued by the appropriate authorities within the Security Council shortly. He also believed that this official statement would call upon all nations to surrender their sovereignty to the United Nations where each nation state would be represented and could therefore, work together in averting further calamity, administering aid and enforcing martial law until global stability could be realized.
In another surprising development, a mid-level official designated by the European Union will address the full membership of the United Nations next week. Some believe that this address will now be modified to deal with the global disappearances that took place yesterday and the outlook for a new global community and the increased role of the United Nations
Section A, Page 2: Congressional Response Swift to Disappearances
Remaining Congressional leaders spoke early this morning to representatives of the major news outlets in a hastily called news conference. One prominent Senator stated:
“From what we can tell, we have lost about fifty percent of our membership to these disappearances. Additionally, several members of the President’s Cabinet and his Joint Chiefs of Staff cannot be found. While we believe that these disappearances have a perfectly reasonable explanation, we still want to take every precaution. We also want to assure the American people that the government will transition through these times and will continue to function. Everyone should remain calm and let us do our jobs. We anticipate that the Congress will meet in emergency session until such time as we have drafted a plan for dealing with this crisis. In the meantime, we welcome the input and possible intervention of the United Nations in helping us through this difficulty.”
Another Representative from the State of New York commented on speculation that these disappearances were somehow related to divine intervention. In an early morning meeting, he said, “Speculation of this kind is not just counterproductive but actually harmful. I really do not put much credence into these types of comments. If this were true, I daresay ninety percent of Americans would not be here today. Everyone knows that most Americans are basically good people. We are the ones who have always stepped in to help others in times of trouble. If God was going to take the good people, then many of us who remain would not be here. I therefore reject this explanation for these disappearances.”
Another Senator who did not wish to be identified and spoke under condition of anonymity stated, “I am actually quite concerned about these developments. I have not been able to reach certain members of my own family and these family members were always considered to be a little different because of their religious beliefs.”
One high-ranking public official observed, “Most of those who have disappeared were people who stood in the way of a more progressive political agenda. It looks like these are the same people who wanted to set women’s rights back by banning abortion, who thought that we should support so-called “faith based initiatives” with tax dollars, who did not believe in tolerance and diversity and who led us into a war that we did not need. It is clear that we should have pursued diplomatic efforts in dealing with our Muslim neighbors; we offended them by influencing their nation’s policies and effectively occupied them to our own advantage. If there is a God, not that I believe there is, then he would certainly be justified in removing these people from our planet.” This viewpoint was echoed by many other staffers on Capitol Hill. One, in fact, stated, “We should look on this as an opportunity and not a tragedy. We can now move forward with a progressive, moderate agenda without interference from right-wing fringe groups and religious fanatics.”
Section C, Page 9: Fanatics Claim Disappearances to be Supernatural
Reaction to yesterday’s disappearances came swiftly from individuals claiming that the disappearances were caused by supernatural or “other worldly” encounters. One individual who declined to be named stated, “I heard that this might happen sometime but I never put much stock in it. My sister claimed that Jesus was going to come again and take his people home with him. I haven’t been able to get a hold of my sister since yesterday but I just know that can’t be the case. I’ve been a church-goer for the last year and I’m still here. I mean, wouldn’t I be gone too if that were the case?”
Another claimed that the disappearances were tied to direct intervention by extra-terrestrial life forms. He stated, “With the rise in UFO sightings lately, it only makes sense that they might come and take a bunch of people. We’ve been seeing it for years but the government’s been covering it up ever since that Roswell incident. No sir, this doesn’t surprise me at all.”
Local officials declined comment stating only that the people claiming that the disappearances were tied to UFO sightings or the appearance of Jesus were at best, misinformed, and at worst, mentally unbalanced. These officials indicated that they would await word from Federal authorities before making any official statement on the disappearances.
Fairy Tale or Prophecy?
At first blush it certainly seems like a fairy tale, doesn’t it? Millions of people disappear in an instant leaving a very large segment of the earth’s population intact. Many people think that it makes for a fanciful tale but it could never happen. There is no historical record of anything like this happening before. We have absolutely no demonstrable evidence that such a thing could occur. Am I right?
It is true that we have no record of such a happening but that doesn’t mean that it will never happen. Quite to the contrary, it is predicted and everyone is staking not just their lives, but their eternal existence on the answer to this question. In the Olivet Discourse, Jesus stated:
36 "No one knows about that day or hour, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father. 37 As it was in the days of Noah, so it will be at the coming of the Son of Man. 38 For in the days before the flood, people were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, up to the day Noah entered the ark; 39 and they knew nothing about what would happen until the flood came and took them all away. That is how it will be at the coming of the Son of Man. 40 Two men will be in the field; one will be taken and the other left. 41 Two women will be grinding with a hand mill; one will be taken and the other left. Matt 24:36-41 (NIV)
From a historical perspective, it is interesting to note what Jesus had to say just before He predicted the rapture or “snatching away.” He foresaw the destruction of the Temple by the Roman Empire in AD 70. What He predicted literally came to pass; the Temple was destroyed and not one stone was left upon another. The reason this happened was that the Temple was sacked and burned and gold melted and ran into the spaces between the blocks of stone. Those stones were dissembled in order to remove the gold.
24:1 Jesus left the temple and was walking away when his disciples came up to him to call his attention to its buildings. 2 "Do you see all these things?" he asked. "I tell you the truth, not one stone here will be left on another; every one will be thrown down." Matt. 24:1-2 (NIV)
The bottom line is that this prophecy came to pass just as did all the other prophecies contained within the Bible including numerous predictions about the birth, life and death of Jesus. Therefore, it is reasonable to assume that this prediction will also be fulfilled in the future.
The disciples next posed the question concerning the end of the age. Jesus had been clear saying that no one, except the Father, knew when the exact time would be but there would be signs of His coming.
3 As Jesus was sitting on the Mount of Olives, the disciples came to him privately. "Tell us," they said, "when will this happen, and what will be the sign of your coming and of the end of the age?" 4 Jesus answered: "Watch out that no one deceives you. 5 For many will come in my name, claiming, ´I am the Christ,´ and will deceive many. 6 You will hear of wars and rumors of wars, but see to it that you are not alarmed. Such things must happen, but the end is still to come. 7 Nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom. There will be famines and earthquakes in various places. 8 All these are the beginning of birth pains. 9 "Then you will be handed over to be persecuted and put to death, and you will be hated by all nations because of me. 10 At that time many will turn away from the faith and will betray and hate each other, 11 and many false prophets will appear and deceive many people. 12 Because of the increase of wickedness, the love of most will grow cold, 13 but he who stands firm to the end will be saved. 14 And this gospel of the kingdom will be preached in the whole world as a testimony to all nations, and then the end will come. Matt. 24:3-14 (NIV)
We know that the earth, throughout its history, has experienced false messiahs, war, famine, earthquakes and wickedness. However, it seems that these events intensified over the last century. For the first time in recorded history, we had world wars. Earthquakes swarm resulting in widespread destruction and loss of life; false messiahs abound; famine persists despite our technological advances; wickedness runs rampant; and apathy thrives.
Jesus also said that the love of most would grow cold and that the gospel would be preached to the whole world. With these things, the end of the (church) age would come.
Following his prediction, Jesus admonished his disciples to be vigilant. It is important to remain ready because Jesus is going to come again when it is least expected.
42 "Therefore keep watch, because you do not know on what day your Lord will come. 43 But understand this: If the owner of the house had known at what time of night the thief was coming, he would have kept watch and would not have let his house be broken into. 44 So you also must be ready, because the Son of Man will come at an hour when you do not expect him. Matt. 24:42-44 (NIV)
I suspect that if you asked most Christians if they thought Jesus was coming today, the answer you would get would be “no.” Everybody seems to have their own plan or agenda but God has His timeline. It is important to live with anticipation, with the expectation that Jesus is going to come again. We do not know the time but we do know the season.
32 "Now learn this lesson from the fig tree: As soon as its twigs get tender and its leaves come out, you know that summer is near. 33 Even so, when you see all these things, you know that it is near, right at the door. Matt. 24:32-34 (NIV)
I know a number of people who would not think of gambling on anything for any amount of money. Yet, they are willing to stake their eternal existence on a bet. The bet is that God will think that they are good enough to be let into His kingdom or better yet, that God is a fiction. These people would not even consider a speculative investment but they refuse to invest in the only endeavor that will pay an eternal reward. They have heard the truth and they even know the price, but they refuse to respond.
I awake with the anticipation each day that it may be my last. I want to experience the Rapture of the saints. I want to leave this world behind. I want to go home with my wife and children, my other family members and my friends. I want to see those who have gone on before me.
I also know that many people will not respond to God’s call unless something truly startling and miraculous happens. That is why I pray each day for the Rapture. My prayer each day is, “Lord Jesus, please come.” Thist is the only way that many will finally come to Christ. They will suffer through the Tribulation and most of them will die, but it will be worth it. I will take the eternal over the temporal any time. Wouldn’t you?

-------------------------------------------------Face it...SATAN IS A MASTER LIAR!!
THE MOST DANGEROUS TYPE OF LIE
IS THAT WHICH MOST CLOSLEY RESEMBLES THE TRUTH!
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This has got to be the Woo Woo thread of the month.
I mean really...how can anyone with even a molecule of common sense believe this stuff?
Dateline (soon)...gimmie a break.
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182 - that was a bit long winded, but had the ring of truth to it. It annoys me to no end that these so called "Christians" wish the worst to befall the Earth because they will magically disappear. That aint gonna happen. They will be in the thick of things. And you are right - "Soon".
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It has more than a "ring" of truth.
It IS the TRUTH.
Accept it and PREPARE YOUR SPIRIT>>>YOUR HEART>>>AND YOUR SOUL.

The time is here...now....and its REAL!

Buy the lie....and die.

Accept the TRUTH.....and live.

Simple.
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Find the word rapture in the bible...Can you?
I certainly can´t, neither can anyone else for that matter.
I feel that Christ will at some point return but forget your Magic Dissapearing Christian Act, and live your live as god would have you live it.
That way if Christ doesent show up to save you during this lifetime, perhaps the wheels will be set in motion to enable you to save yourself.
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You know, I feel bad because I try not to judge, but reading this has given me the first opportunity to have a really good laugh all week.

I truly hope that people who believe they are up for rapture do get raptured and taken to a Shire of sweetness and light forever.

I really do.
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my brother told me he would be raptured within 2 years... that was back in 1987.\

fcking delusional liars
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yeah right and the television is going crazy trying to explain the disappearance of all those people and its strange cause no one seems to car not even the people who are missingbutt
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Hey Sorcha, you forgot your opening statement, "Russian Intelligence sources have noted.....
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The word rapture isn´t in the bible but than the word bible isn´t in the bible either is it.

The "concept" or the catching away is woven through out both the new and the old testament.

Who wouldn´t want to escape the wrath of God What is being poured out is poured on a vile and wickedness generation and world system.

Can you condon evil or not see a group of men in dire need of fire as a way mercifully end all the heinious crimes against humanity.

No one is sent to hell they choice to go there by neglecting Gods way of salvation

I pray all people come to accept and know Jesus Those will be saved.
For a believer there is NO joy in seeing anyone lost..
But there is much joy in seeing evil vanquiched.

There is a huge difference..

I am praying for a pre-trib rapture but I am a little more inclined to believe we may be here to expiercence a portion of the tribulation.
at least.

What portion is my question..

Why would Jesus say to be found worthy to escape if there wasn´t a way or a reason.

Everything else you say Person1 makes perfect sense..
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Great post! Looking at scripture and the world we currently live in, I´d say that latest by Labor Day 2005 this huge disappearance could very well become a reality. Yes, I realize that such predictions were chronically wrong in the past but the time now is quite different. We´ll soon know.
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breaking a searc party is under way looking for the million or so that has vanished into the night many believe it was the work of the UNDEAD so stay in doors at nighy and cover your necksstonerfolk lore has it that smoking a little weed and the hanging of garlic will keep them awaystonerstonerstoner
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And a fresh change of underwear.
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Luke 21:34

Be on gaurd that your hearts may not be weighted down with dissipation and drunkenness and the worries of this life,AND THE DAY COME UPON YOU SUDDENLY LIKE A TRAP; FOR IT WILL COME UPON "ALL" THOSE WHO DWELL ON THE FACE OF THE EARTH.

Mark 13:12-And brother will deliver brother to death, and a father his child, and children will rise up against their parents and have them put to death.
And YOU will be HATED by ALL on account of my name, BUT THE ONE WHO ENDURES TO THE END, HE shall be saved.

And unless the Lord had shortened those days, NO life would have been saved, But for the SAKE OF THE ELECT (Funny...I thought the elect went in the rapture) WHOM HE CHOSE...He shortened the days.

For false christs and false prophets will arise to show signs and wonders, IN ORDER, IF POSSIBLE...TO LEAD THE ELECT ASTRAY.

So the whole reason for the rapture go to heaven easy lie is to WHAT?? "IN ORDER, IF POSSIBLE...TO LEAD THE ELECT ASTRAY"

Now the elect cant be decieved if they are NOT HERE can they?

Read on...

But in the days (AFTER!!!)that tribulation THE SUN WILL BE DARKENED AND THE MOON WILL NOT GIVE ITS LIGHT, AND THE STARS WILL BE FALLING FROM HEAVEN. And the powers of the heavens will be shaken.
And (THEN!!) they will see the son of man coming in the clouds with power and great glory.

GET THIS...this is WHILE HE IS COMING!!!

And THEN He will SEND FORTH HIS ANGELS and will GATHER (collect...recieve...aquire...rapture if you like) TOGETHER HIS....His WHAT???


HIS ELECT!!!!!!

from the four winds (the whole earth) from the farthest ends of the earth to the farthest ends of heaven.

Now we read in Matthew the SAME THING.
All the verses above this one are the same more or less but I am writing this one to make a POINT very CLEAR.

Mathew 24:31
"And he will send forth HIS ANGELS with what??
"A GREAT TRUMPET"...and what will the angels DO?
"And they will GATHER His WHO?? His "ELECT" from the four winds...from one end of the sky to the other"

Now for the cause of the great falling away!

Matthew 24:9-13

THEN they will deliver you up to TRIBULATION, and will KILL you, and you will ba HATED by ALL NATIONS on account of MY NAME.

AND AT THAT TIME...."MANY SHALL FALL AWAY" and will deliver up one another (dob eachother in to the authoroties) and HATE one another.
AND MANY FALSE PROPHETS (pre trib rapture teachers) will arise AND MISLEAD MANY.

And because lawlessness will increase (anarchy and chaos of the time) The love (or compassion) of MANY will grow cold. (They will no longer care because they have been decieved and are full of anger and hate.)

NOW LET THIS SOAK IN!!!

BUT THE ONE WHO ENDURES TO THE WHAT???/THE "END".....HE SHALL BE SAVED.

So as you can CLEARLY see if you are not WILLINGLY BLIND that the saints...the ELECT...will be here for the whole show and only be taken out right at the return of Jesus to this world. If they were not then WHY the command to ENDURE TO THE "END" then???

Want more PROOF? you DO? ok then...this is JUST the beginning.

The parable of the harvest.

Note the TIMING!!!

Matthew 13:30

"Allow BOTH to GROW TOGETHER until the harvest.
and in the TIME of the harvest I will say to the reapers (which are the angels he sends forth)
"FIRST...(note the FIRST!!!) Gather up the TARES!!!(NOT the believers first as the devils doctrine says....but the WICKED)and bind them in bundles to BURN them up: But (and AFTER that..as is obvious) but gather the wheat into my barn.

Fairly straight forward unless you willingly REFUSE to see the truth.

Here is MORE proof you have been lied to about the rapture.

Matthew 13:39-43

Talking about the bad seed here....

And the enemy who sowed them is (who???)
THE DEVIL....and the harvest is the end of the world....and the REAPERS are angels.
(NOTE THIS...THE TIMING!!!)

Therefore...JUST AS THE TARES (The WICKED...the bad seed)are GATHERED UP and burned in the fire...SO shall it be at the end of the world.

(So as you can CLEARLY SEE....ITS THE WICKED that get gathered FIRST and BURNED UP during the tribulation)

Here´s MORE...

Verse 41

THE SON OF MAN...will send forth His ANGELS...and they will GATHER OUT of His kingdom...(WHO???? The SAINTS as you have been misled to believe??)...ALL STUMBLING BLOCKS...and THOSE WHO COMMIT LAWLESSNESS.

verse 43

THEN..(meaning "AFTER THAT" as is OBVIOUS)..THE RIGHTEOUS WILL SHINE FORTH LIKE THE SUN in the kingdom of their father. (and to make the point HIMSELF...Jesus says this at the end)
HE WHO HAS EARS...LET HIM HEAR (or UNDERSTAND)


Still not convinced???
Ok then...heres MORE proof.

Matthew 13:49-50

"SO shall it be at the end of the world:The ANGELS shall come forth...(AND NOTE THIS ONCE AGAIN CAREFULLY!!!)...AND "TAKE OUT" (TO REMOVE)
THE WICKED (NOT the saints) FROM "AMONG" the RIGHTEOUS!!!

NOT the other way around as you have been decieved into believeing.

NOTE: These words are from Jesus own mouth and are VERY clear AGAIN AND AGAIN at the timing of the events. IF you do NOT believe these words...then you do NOT believe in Jesus...which means you are ONE OF THE WICKED that he talks so much about....always hearing and always learning....but never able to come to the knowledge of the TRUTH.
Willignly IGNORANT and surrounding yourself with teachers who tell you what you want to hear...tickling your itching ears.
That you will NOT have to suffer..that you will be taken out from this and never suffer any pain. YOU ARE IN FOR A VERY VERY VERY VERY nasty WAKE UP CALL...because you will STILL BE SLEEPING
when the groom shows up.

NEED MORE PROOF???

Ok...here we go then.

1 Corinthians 15:52
"IN a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, (WHEN??) AT THE LAST (meaning FINAL!)
TRUMPET: For the TRUMPRT will sound, and THE DEAD shall be raised, and we shall be changed.


So as you can clearly see...The Lord will COLLECT HIS SAINTS AT HIS RETURN.
Also He would NOT have told us to "endure to the end to be saved" IF we had nothing to endure but was instead raptured to heaven on an easy flesh loving get out of the trib FREE card that our churches teach...A DOCTRINE OF DEVILS
which will leave most saints who believe this lie.... caught OFF GAURD and ASLEEP. For that is the reason for the lie...to sort the wheat from the chaff....and there is WAY to much chaff in the church.

I hope I am beginning to dispel your doubts. These words are CLEAR and cannot be muddled.
When I return with lots more scripture backing this up you will be WITHOUT excuse when the time comes..and the time is HERE NOW...so GET READY.


More will soon follow.
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Luke 17:33 Whosoever shall seek to save his life shall lose it; and whosoever shall lose his life shall preserve it.
Luke 17:34 I tell you, in that night there shall be two men in one bed; the one shall be taken, and the other shall be left.
Luke 17:35 Two women shall be grinding together; the one shall be taken, and the other left.
Luke 17:36 Two men shall be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left.
Luke 17:37 And they answered and said unto him, Where, Lord? And he said unto them, Wheresoever the body is, thither will the eagles be gathered together.

The above passage is frequently quoted to support a "secret" rapture, that neither the saved or the lost will be aware of what is happening at the time. Supposedly, millions of Christians will be "taken" and simply disappear mysteriously, leaving the world wondering where they went. Just what does this passage really intend to teach? Well, first let´s look at a parallel passage in Matthew:

Mat 24:27 For as the lightning cometh out of the east, and shineth even unto the west; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
Mat 24:28 For wheresoever the carcase is, there will the eagles be gathered together.
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Mat 24:37 But as the days of Noe were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
Mat 24:38 For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark,
Mat 24:39 And knew not until the flood came, and took them all away; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
Mat 24:40 Then shall two be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left.
Mat 24:41 Two women shall be grinding at the mill; the one shall be taken, and the other left.
Mat 24:42 Watch therefore: for ye know not what hour your Lord doth come.

Note that in verse 39, the wicked who perished in the flood are described as being taken away. The wicked are taken first, not the righteous. Next, it tells us that it shall be exactly the same at the second coming of the Lord. Clearly in in days of Noah, those taken first perished, and so it will be again at the second coming. Now notice that in Luke 17, verse 37, a question is asked: "Where, Lord? And he said unto them, Wheresoever the body is, thither will the eagles be gathered together". This answer given by Jesus refers to the vultures gathering over the bodies of the wicked, those taken first, which are all slain at the second coming. (See also Rev 19:20-21) So Jesus was not teaching a silent or secret rapture of the righteous away from the world. He was making it clear, that at His second coming, all the wicked will be taken and slain first, before the righteous are taken to heaven. This destruction of the wicked is completely ignored by those teaching the secret rapture.

The Second Coming Described

The following verses all show that with respect to the second coming, Jesus will indeed come quickly-

Rev 3:11 Behold, I come quickly: hold that fast which thou hast, that no man take thy crown.

Rev 22:7 Behold, I come quickly: blessed is he that keepeth the sayings of the prophecy of this book.

Rev 22:12 And, behold, I come quickly; and my reward is with me, to give every man according as his work shall be.

Rev 22:20 He which testifieth these things saith, Surely I come quickly. Amen. Even so, come, Lord Jesus.

Mat 24:27 For as the lightning cometh out of the east, and shineth even unto the west; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.

And the following verses refer to the second coming of Jesus as being like a thief for the wicked-

Rev 3:3 Remember therefore how thou hast received and heard, and hold fast, and repent. If therefore thou shalt not watch, I will come on thee as a thief, and thou shalt not know what hour I will come upon thee.

Rev 16:15 Behold, I come as a thief. Blessed is he that watcheth, and keepeth his garments, lest he walk naked, and they see his shame.

1 Th 5:4 But ye, brethren, are not in darkness, that that day should overtake you as a thief.

It should be quite clear that all the above verses are indeed referring to the second coming of Jesus. He will come quickly, like lightning, as a thief upon the unsuspecting wicked of the world. But is it a secret, silent event?

2 Pet 3:10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.
2 Pet 3:11 Seeing then that all these things shall be dissolved, what manner of persons ought ye to be in all holy conversation and godliness,
2 Pet 3:12 Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God, wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat?

1 Th 4:16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:

It will be the noisiest, most climactic event in history, not a silent, mysterious secret.

The Parable of the Tares of the Field.

Now, in the book of Matthew, Jesus tells a parable about the end of the world, which is intended to explain some end time events of the second coming:

Mat 13:24 Another parable put he forth unto them, saying, The kingdom of heaven is likened unto a man which sowed good seed in his field:
Mat 13:25 But while men slept, his enemy came and sowed tares among the wheat, and went his way.
Mat 13:26 But when the blade was sprung up, and brought forth fruit, then appeared the tares also.
Mat 13:27 So the servants of the householder came and said unto him, Sir, didst not thou sow good seed in thy field? from whence then hath it tares?
Mat 13:28 He said unto them, An enemy hath done this. The servants said unto him, Wilt thou then that we go and gather them up?
Mat 13:29 But he said, Nay; lest while ye gather up the tares, ye root up also the wheat with them.
Mat 13:30 Let both grow together until the harvest: and in the time of harvest I will say to the reapers, Gather ye together first the tares, and bind them in bundles to burn them: but gather the wheat into my barn.

Jesus then explains the parable in detail to His disciples:

Mat 13:36 Then Jesus sent the multitude away, and went into the house: and his disciples came unto him, saying, Declare unto us the parable of the tares of the field.
Mat 13:37 He answered and said unto them, He that soweth the good seed is the Son of man;
Mat 13:38 The field is the world; the good seed are the children of the kingdom; but the tares are the children of the wicked one;
Mat 13:39 The enemy that sowed them is the devil; the harvest is the end of the world; and the reapers are the angels.
Mat 13:40 As therefore the tares are gathered and burned in the fire; so shall it be in the end of this world.
Mat 13:41 The Son of man shall send forth his angels, and they shall gather out of his kingdom all things that offend, and them which do iniquity;
Mat 13:42 And shall cast them into a furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth.
Mat 13:43 Then shall the righteous shine forth as the sun in the kingdom of their Father. Who hath ears to hear, let him hear.

Note the timing of events Jesus describes, and how it compares with those taken first in Matthew 24:39-42. At the end of the world, when the time for the harvest of humanity has come, it is not the righteous who are gathered first, it is the wicked! The wicked are taken and dealt with first, while the people of God are still among them. Advocates of the popular pre-tribulation rapture propose that all righteous Christians will first be taken up by Jesus secretly, in an instant, leaving behind a totally non-Christian world in startled ignorance of why a significant portion of the population has simply disappeared off the face of the earth. The secret rapture theory is the reverse sequence of the parable as told by Jesus, and so can be dismissed on this point alone! Jesus in the book of Matthew again confirms that the wicked will be taken out from among the righteous:

Mat 13:49 So shall it be at the end of the world: the angels shall come forth, and sever the wicked from among the just,
Mat 13:50 And shall cast them into the furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth.

The Lesson of Noah and the flood, and Lot and Sodom

The 17th chapter of Luke, which we began this study with, again makes it plain that the wicked will all perish at the return of Christ:

Luke 17:26 And as it was in the days of Noe, so shall it be also in the days of the Son of man.
Luke 17:27 They did eat, they drank, they married wives, they were given in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark, and the flood came, and destroyed them all.
Luke 17:28 Likewise also as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold, they planted, they builded;
Luke 17:29 But the same day that Lot went out of Sodom it rained fire and brimstone from heaven, and destroyed them all.
Luke 17:30 Even thus shall it be in the day when the Son of man is revealed.

The lesson is clear. Sudden destruction comes upon the wicked at the second coming. They will all perish.

The Seven Last Plagues.

Now let me point out an interesting fact. Revelation 16 relates the last seven plagues being poured out on the unrepentant wicked of the earth. Through verse 12 the first six of the plagues are poured out, and THEN in verse 15-

Rev 16:15 Behold, I come as a thief. Blessed is he that watcheth, and keepeth his garments, lest he walk naked, and they see his shame.

Clearly Jesus HAS NOT COME YET AT THE TIME OF THE SIXTH PLAGUE! Note that the seventh plague then falls in verse 17-

Rev 16:16 And he gathered them together into a place called in the Hebrew tongue Armageddon.
Rev 16:17 And the seventh angel poured out his vial into the air; and there came a great voice out of the temple of heaven, from the throne, saying, It is done.

Jesus at the time of the seventh plague is announcing that time for earth has come to an end, and the second coming follows immediately. So Jesus does not come back to earth until after all seven plagues have been poured out on the wicked. The faithful church was NOT removed at any point prior to these plagues, they have endured them without fear of being affected by them:

Psa 91:5 Thou shalt not be afraid for the terror by night; nor for the arrow that flieth by day;
Psa 91:6 Nor for the pestilence that walketh in darkness; nor for the destruction that wasteth at noonday.
Psa 91:7 A thousand shall fall at thy side, and ten thousand at thy right hand; but it shall not come nigh thee.
Psa 91:8 Only with thine eyes shalt thou behold and see the reward of the wicked.
Psa 91:9 Because thou hast made the LORD, which is my refuge, even the most High, thy habitation;
Psa 91:10 There shall no evil befall thee, neither shall any plague come nigh thy dwelling.
Psa 91:11 For he shall give his angels charge over thee, to keep thee in all thy ways.

So the wicked will suffer the 7 last plagues, while the people of God are still present with them on this earth.

Does the Second Coming Happen Secretly?

There are two verses where Jesus himself described exactly how he would come back to this earth. These words were spoken to the high priest of the Jews - Caiaphas:

Mat 26:64 Jesus saith unto him, Thou hast said: nevertheless I say unto you, Hereafter shall ye see the Son of man sitting on the right hand of power, and coming in the clouds of heaven.

Mark 14:62 And Jesus said, I am: and ye shall see the Son of man sitting on the right hand of power, and coming in the clouds of heaven.

Jesus says that Caiaphas will be alive (resurrected) to see him return in his full glory, in the clouds of heaven. This is a significant key to his return. It is a direct link to -

Rev 1:7 Behold, he cometh with clouds; and every eye shall see him, and they also which pierced him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him. Even so, Amen.

So as the above study shows:


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(1). AFTER THE 7 PLAGUES OF REV 16 FALL ON THE WICKED, AND NOT BEFORE, JESUS COMES IN THE CLOUDS.


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(2). EVERY EYE WILL SEE HIS COMING.


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The return of Jesus (in the clouds) will be witnessed by every living person on this earth at the time. In addition, those who had a part in the crucifixion of Jesus (pierced him) will be resurrected to witness this glorious event as well, to include Caiaphas.

Jesus coming in the clouds is mentioned in the following texts as well. It is an important discriminator between the genuine coming of Jesus and the impersonation of Jesus by Satan-

Psa 97:2 Clouds and darkness are round about him: righteousness and judgment are the habitation of his throne.

Psa 104:3 Who layeth the beams of his chambers in the waters: who maketh the clouds his chariot: who walketh upon the wings of the wind:

Jer 4:13 Behold, he shall come up as clouds, and his chariots shall be as a whirlwind: his horses are swifter than eagles. Woe unto us! for we are spoiled.

Dan 7:13 I saw in the night visions, and, behold, one like the Son of man came with the clouds of heaven, and came to the Ancient of days, and they brought him near before him.

Mat 16:27 For the Son of man shall come in the glory of his Father with his angels; and then he shall reward every man according to his works.

Mat 24:30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.
Mat 24:31 And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.

Mark 13:26 And then shall they see the Son of man coming in the clouds with great power and glory.
Mark 13:27 And then shall he send his angels, and shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from the uttermost part of the earth to the uttermost part of heaven.

(3). HE COMES IN HIS FULL POWER AND GLORY, TO THEN REWARD EVERY MAN.


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If, as we have established in point (3), every eye will see him coming in all his glory, what is the fate of the then living wicked who behold him?

Exo 33:20 And he (God/Jesus) said, Thou canst not see my face: for there shall no man see me, and live.

Deu 4:24 For the LORD thy God is a consuming fire, even a jealous God.

Deu 5:25 Now therefore why should we die? for this great fire will consume us: if we hear the voice of the LORD our God any more, then we shall die.
Deu 5:26 For who is there of all flesh, that hath heard the voice of the living God speaking out of the midst of the fire, as we have, and lived?

Deu 9:3 Understand therefore this day, that the LORD thy God is he which goeth over before thee; as a consuming fire he shall destroy them, and he shall bring them down before thy face: so shalt thou drive them out, and destroy them quickly, as the LORD hath said unto thee.

Psa 50:3 Our God shall come, and shall not keep silence: a fire shall devour before him, and it shall be very tempestuous round about him.

Psa 110:5 The Lord at thy right hand shall strike through kings in the day of his wrath.
Psa 110:6 He shall judge among the heathen, he shall fill the places with the dead bodies; he shall wound the heads over many countries.

Isa 13:9 Behold, the day of the LORD cometh, cruel both with wrath and fierce anger, to lay the land desolate: and he shall destroy the sinners thereof out of it.

Jer 25:33 And the slain of the LORD shall be at that day from one end of the earth even unto the other end of the earth: they shall not be lamented, neither gathered, nor buried; they shall be dung upon the ground.

Luke 17:28 Likewise also as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold, they planted, they builded;
Luke 17:29 But the same day that Lot went out of Sodom it rained fire and brimstone from heaven, and destroyed them all.
Luke 17:30 Even thus shall it be in the day when the Son of man is revealed.

Heb 12:29 For our God is a consuming fire.

2 Th 1:7 And to you who are troubled rest with us, when the Lord Jesus shall be revealed from heaven with his mighty angels,
2 Th 1:8 In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ:
2 Th 1:9 Who shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord, and from the glory of his power;

2 Th 2:8 And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming:

Luke 17:37 And they answered and said unto him, Where, Lord? And he said unto them, Wheresoever the body is, thither will the eagles be gathered together.

Rev 19:21 And the remnant were slain with the sword of him that sat upon the horse, which sword proceeded out of his mouth: and all the fowls were filled with their flesh.

Rev 20:5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished....

The wicked who see Jesus at the second coming will perish, because sinful man cannot look upon the face of God in His full glory and live. Just as the parable of the wheat and tares declares (Matt 13:24-43), the wicked will all perish first, before the righteous are gathered.


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(4). THE WICKED WILL ALL BE SLAIN AT JESUS´ SECOND COMING BY THE FIRE OF HIS RIGHTEOUS GLORY, TO BE RESURRECTED AFTER THE 1000 YEARS.


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But doesn´t Isaiah 66:19-25 describe a picture of idyllic conditions during the millennial reign of Jesus on earth? No. It is true this has to be describing conditions here on earth because it states death will still occur in verse 20. So what is this passage dealing with? It is describing how the Jews would be living today, now - if they had accepted the Messiah. They would be truly blessed of God, infant mortality would be unknown, people would die no sooner than the age of 100, etc. The reason that this did not happen is evident at the cross, the unbelief of Israel.


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(5). HE COMES WITH ALL THE ANGELS OF HEAVEN.


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But what of Zec 14:4, 5 and Jude 14. They both state that Jesus will come with saints. Doesn´t this prove the saints are in heaven before the second coming? No, these are references to the third coming of Jesus, when he does come with all the saints in the New Jerusalem (Rev 21:2), but that is AFTER the 1000 years, for the great white throne judgment of all the resurrected wicked (Rev 20:11).

Matthew 24 gives us the timing of the gathering or rapture of the saints - after the tribulation and after the second coming. Verse 27 says He will come like lightning, the seven last plagues are the tribulation of verse 29. Verse 30 is the second coming, with the angels of God gathering the righteous in verse 31. Now notice verse 33-

Mat 24:33 So likewise ye, when ye shall see all these things, know that it is near, even at the doors.

So clearly Matt 24 is relating events that would be happening shortly prior to the second coming of Jesus and the gathering of the righteous, so-


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(6). ALL THE RIGHTEOUS ARE GATHERED TOGETHER AFTER THE COMING IN THE CLOUDS OF JESUS (THE SECOND COMING), THAT EVERY EYE WILL SEE - NOT BEFORE.


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And in what form will Jesus return, in spirit, or in the flesh?

Acts 1:9 And when he had spoken these things, while they beheld, he was taken up; and a cloud received him out of their sight.
Acts 1:10 And while they looked steadfastly toward heaven as he went up, behold, two men stood by them in white apparel;
Acts 1:11 Which also said, Ye men of Galilee, why stand ye gazing up into heaven? this same Jesus, which is taken up from you into heaven, shall so come in like manner as ye have seen him go into heaven.


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(7). HE WAS TAKEN TO HEAVEN IN THE FLESH, HE WILL RETURN IN THE FLESH.


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What will He bring with Him when He returns?

Rev 22:12 And, behold, I come quickly; and my reward is with me, to give every man according as his work shall be.

1 Th 4:15 For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent [precede] them which are asleep.
1 Th 4:16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:
1 Th 4:17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.

1 Cor 15:51 Behold, I show you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed,
1 Cor 15:52 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.
1 Cor 15:53 For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality.


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(8). THE RIGHTEOUS DEAD ARE RAISED FIRST, THEN THE RIGHTEOUS LIVING ARE TRANSFORMED, THEIR REWARD IS ETERNAL LIFE, RECEIVED AT THE SECOND COMING.


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In the Old Testament, the story of Israel´s bondage in Egypt is an example of the what will happen in the end times.

The Plagues on Egypt

1. Exo 7:17- Water to blood
2. Exo 8:2- Frogs
3. Exo 8:16- Lice
4. Exo 8:21- Flies
5. Exo 9:3 - Egyptian cattle died
6. Exo 9:9- Boils
7. Exo 9:18- Burning hail
8. Exo 10:4- Locusts
9. Exo 10:21- Darkness
10. Exo 12:12- Judgment to be executed
..... Exo 12:13- First born of Israel saved by the blood of the lamb.
....................... (the blood of the lamb represents the blood of Jesus)
..... Exo 12:29- First born of Egypt slain

GOD´S PEOPLE ARE SET FREE FROM EGYPTIAN BONDAGE


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Just as the plagues fell on Egypt, the last seven plagues will fall on the wicked before the second coming. Note that the last plague, immediately prior to the release of God´s people, was the firstborn of Egypt being slain? This is symbolic of the destruction of the wicked (tares) at the second coming, prior to the gathering of the righteous (wheat) when God´s people are set free from sin, as described in Matthew 13.

2 Tim 4:1 I charge thee therefore before God, and the Lord Jesus Christ, who shall judge the quick and the dead at his appearing and his kingdom;

Rev 22:11 He that is unjust, let him be unjust still: and he which is filthy, let him be filthy still: and he that is righteous, let him be righteous still: and he that is holy, let him be holy still.
Rev 22:12 And, behold, I come quickly; and my reward is with me, to give every man according as his work shall be.

Note that judgment has been decided BEFORE the second coming, Jesus comes with his reward for every man. The judgment is carried out, the separation of sheep and goats, wheat and tares, happens once at the second coming. Matthew 25 also supports the second advent rapture. Those who are not ready at the appointed time will be shut-out. There is no second chance.


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(9). JUDGMENT IS EXECUTED AT THE SECOND COMING. THERE WILL BE NO SECOND CHANCES TO BE SAVED IN THE MILLENNIUM.


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Did the plagues of Egypt affect or harm the Jews?

Exo 9:6 And the LORD did that thing on the morrow, and all the cattle of Egypt died: but of the cattle of the children of Israel died not one.

Exo 9:26 Only in the land of Goshen, where the children of Israel were, was there no hail.

So how are the plagues on Egypt significant? How do they relate to the second coming?

1 Cor 10:11 Now all these things happened unto them (the Jews) for examples: and they are written for our admonition, upon whom the ends of the world are come.

They are an example for us to use to understand exactly what will happen in the end times. Again see Psalms 91:5-11. The plagues on Egypt demonstrate that God´s people will live through the period of the last 7 plagues and be unaffected by them, by the power of God´s protection.


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(10). YOU CAN ONLY BE SAVED BY YOUR FAITH IN THE BLOOD OF JESUS TO COVER YOUR SINS, AND BY THIS FAITH YOU WILL ENDURE HIS PLAGUES UNTOUCHED.


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Are there any other types of this kind, where God´s people are protected untouched? Yes-

The flood of Noah - Gen 7
The fiery furnace of Babylon - Dan 3
The lion´s den of Babylon - Dan 6

Jesus Himself established this principle beyond question, note His words:

John 17:15 I pray not that thou shouldest take them out of the world, but that thou shouldest keep them from the evil.

The righteous of the end times need not be removed from this earth to be kept safe from the plagues that Jesus Himself pours out. The testimony of Jesus makes that clear.

But isn´t Rev 4:1, when John is called up into heaven, a type of the rapture, proving the rest of Revelation does not apply to the church? No. As Rev 4:2 explains, John was in the spirit. He was seeing visions of the future but he did not actually enter heaven. This was the second time that John was in the spirit, the first is Rev 1:10. He was also in the spirit in Rev 17:3 and Rev 21:10. To point to Rev 4:1 and claim it is the rapture, as some prominent pre-trib people do, can not be supported. As Rev 16:15 shows, Jesus has still not yet come between the sixth and seventh plagues (vials/bowls). The church is still on earth living through the plagues.

But what of Sodom and Gomorrah (Gen 19)?

How does this apply? Doesn´t this contradict the second advent rapture principle being established here? Didn´t Lot have to leave the city to be saved? Wouldn´t he have suffered the fate of the wicked if he had stayed? Yes, he would have. Aha! Pre-tribulation rapture proved!!! No, not exactly. What are Sodom and Gomorrah types (examples) of in the end times? At what point MUST you be removed (from something) so as to not feel the wrath of God in the end times? Does the Bible tell us?

Rev 18:2 And he cried mightily with a strong voice, saying, Babylon the great is fallen, is fallen, and is become the habitation of devils, and the hold of every foul spirit, and a cage of every unclean and hateful bird.
Rev 18:3 For all nations have drunk of the wine of the wrath of her fornication, and the kings of the earth have committed fornication with her, and the merchants of the earth are waxed rich through the abundance of her delicacies.
Rev 18:4 And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues.

Sodom and Gomorrah are a type of spiritual Babylon (apostate religion) in the end times.

2 Pet 2:6 And turning the cities of Sodom and Gomorrha into ashes condemned them with an overthrow, making them an ensample unto those that after should live ungodly;

There is another type of spiritual Babylon in the Old Testament in Joshua 6:20,21 after the seven trumpets have been blown seven times and the walls of Jericho fell. The inhabitants of Jericho were all slain with the exception of Rahab the harlot and her family, in a story remarkably similar to the Passover. The seven trumpets are types of the trumpets of Revelation. Jericho represents Babylon in Revelation 18 and Rahab and her family represent those called out of harlot Babylon, before it and everyone in it, is utterly destroyed, yet Rahab did not need to physically leave Jericho in order to be saved.


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(11). IF TODAY YOU ARE IN SPIRITUAL BABYLON YOU MUST LEAVE IT OR YOU WILL RECEIVE THE PLAGUES OF GOD IN THE END TIMES.


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Now look at the last 7 plagues -

THE SEVEN FINAL PLAGUES
(number = Egyptian counterpart)


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1. Rev 16:2- Terrible sores (6)
2. Rev 16:3- The sea to blood (1)
3. Rev 16:4- The fresh water to blood (1)
4. Rev 16:8- Scorched by the sun
5. Rev 16:10- Darkness on spiritual Babylon (9)
6. Rev 16:10- Loss of support for spiritual Babylon
......................Frog like plague of unclean spirits (2)
7. Rev 16:17- Great earthquake and large hail (7)
......................Spiritual Babylon (Apostates) judged

GOD´S PEOPLE SET FREE FROM SIN AT THE SECOND COMING


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A review of points established about the second coming "rapture":


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(1). AFTER THE 7 PLAGUES OF REV 16 FALL ON THE WICKED, AND NOT BEFORE, JESUS COMES IN THE CLOUDS.

(2). EVERY EYE WILL SEE HIS COMING.

(3). HE COMES IN HIS FULL POWER AND GLORY, TO THEN REWARD EVERY MAN.

(4). THE WICKED WILL ALL BE SLAIN AT HIS SECOND COMING BY THE FIRE OF HIS RIGHTEOUS GLORY, TO BE RESURRECTED AFTER THE 1000 YEARS.

(5). HE COMES WITH ALL THE ANGELS OF HEAVEN.

(6). ALL THE RIGHTEOUS ARE GATHERED TOGETHER AFTER THE COMING IN THE CLOUDS OF JESUS (THE SECOND COMING), THAT EVERY EYE WILL SEE - NOT BEFORE.

(7). HE WAS TAKEN TO HEAVEN IN THE FLESH, HE WILL RETURN IN THE FLESH.

(8). THE RIGHTEOUS DEAD ARE RAISED FIRST, THEN THE RIGHTEOUS LIVING ARE TRANSFORMED, THEIR REWARD IS ETERNAL LIFE, RECEIVED AT THE SECOND COMING.

(9). JUDGMENT IS EXECUTED AT THE SECOND COMING. THERE WILL BE NO SECOND CHANCES TO BE SAVED IN THE MILLENNIUM.

(10). YOU CAN ONLY BE SAVED BY YOUR FAITH IN THE BLOOD OF JESUS TO COVER YOUR SINS, AND BY THIS FAITH YOU WILL ENDURE HIS PLAGUES UNTOUCHED.

(11). IF TODAY YOU ARE IN SPIRITUAL BABYLON YOU MUST LEAVE IT OR YOU WILL RECEIVE THE PLAGUES OF GOD IN THE END TIMES.


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I think the above 11 points are clearly derived by allowing the Bible to explain itself. Note that the pre-tribulation rapture advocates generally all say:

1. None of the seals have been opened.
2. None of the trumpets have sounded.
3. The Antichrist has not yet been revealed.
4. The form of the mark of the beast is not yet completely known.
5. The Seal of God is not yet clear.
6. The False Prophet is still unidentified.
7. The church will leave in the rapture prior to the antichrist, plagues and mark of the beast.
8. If you miss the rapture, you will get a second chance during the millennium, when God will rule on this earth for the 1000 years.
9. God is dealing differently with the Jews today, when compared to the Gentiles.

In each case, scriptural evidence can be presented which proves each of their points to be incorrect. Here I have dealt mostly with point #7, but do you notice there is a trend of ignorance and lack of concern advocated by pre-tribbers? They say that since the righteous will leave this earth before most of the events of the end times, you need not be concerned with any of it. Interesting stuff they say, but not really relevant to today´s believer. Besides, according to them, what you do now does not matter anyway, you will get a second chance in the millennium. Nothing could be farther from the truth - it is a satanic lie. If your church advocates the pre-tribulation rapture, I submit that you are being misled and need to study the matter closely for yourself, and perhaps find a new church that teaches the truth.
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esu is his real name.. jesus reminds me of the jery falwel lovers
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... The 17 people who dissapeared represent he best humanity has to offer God... the rest of us are on our own people.
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Damn, O.P., yah missed again.....Instead of leaving the ´user name´ blank yah shoulda entered "Sorcha Faal".....

Hilarious shit, though! Tell me, how long are you going to wait for that "heavenly mass-transit?"

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