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I don’t understand why there has not been much discussion on this thread. This seems very important. California is a major producer of fruit and vegetables. hiding
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I live in California. I'm frustrated, but I also believe we will NEVER be told the truth by the governments involved. Never. So discussing it on a thread and getting all upset seems pointless at best. Don't know what else can be said.
We have NO control over this. NONE.
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I disagree.

We live in a “prison country” only if we have become so conditioned to believe that we have no other options.

(I hear Thomas Jefferson weeping softly in the background.)

It is time to start standing up for our children and grandchildren now. Turn off the TV and start calling your elected representatives. Let them know that they will not be receiving anyone’s support if they allow the country to be poisoned, and that action is required now.

Take to streets if necessary. The only reason that there isn’t more protest over this, is that most people believe MSM and are unaware of what is really happening.

Refuse to be poisoned . Make informed choices about food and other products that may diminish your exposure. Stop giving your children milk.

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Looks like salmon and crab industry up in alaska are going to take a hit
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Everyone who was a boy scout is dead or going to die.
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Looks like salmon and crab industry up in alaska are going to take a hit
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I personally don't think that is going to be a problem....Authorities will raise acceptable limits of contaminates to keep us in the safe zone.
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Thanks for posting this, everyone should watch this:



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[link to enenews.com]

hmmmm

I guess the most recent tests are not yet posted.

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Thanks OP !!!
Kind Regards,
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[link to enenews.com]

hmmmm

I guess the most recent tests are not yet posted.

[link to www.nuc.berkeley.edu]
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Thanks OP !!!
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You are most welcome.hf

I am just trying to get people to wake up, that we cannot allow this situation to continue for YEARS. The effects are cumulative and beyond the borders of Japan.
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Also we cannot rely upon government to warn us, as (using their own argument), “Under this line of argument, they said officials at the Nevada Test Site had no duty to warn the public of the dangers of the atomic tests.”


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Looks like salmon and crab industry up in alaska are going to take a hit
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I have posted this before, but it is worth repeating for those interested:
Thread: **RADIATION PROTECTION**- non prescription list, revised and updated.

Sea food will concentrate the plutonium

“Mollusks will accumulate plutonium in their edible tissues at concentrations 3,000 times higher than the surrounding water, edible seaweed, 2,000 times higher than surrounding water, crustaceans 300 times and fish 40 times.”

[link to books.google.com]
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Looks like salmon and crab industry up in alaska are going to take a hit
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I have posted this before, but it is worth repeating for those interested:
Thread: **RADIATION PROTECTION**- non prescription list, revised and updated.

Sea food will concentrate the plutonium

“Mollusks will accumulate plutonium in their edible tissues at concentrations 3,000 times higher than the surrounding water, edible seaweed, 2,000 times higher than surrounding water, crustaceans 300 times and fish 40 times.”

[link to books.google.com]
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“FDA Won't Test Alaska Fish For Radiation - Don't Worry, Be Happy”

“In the latest example of blatant Federal negligence (coverup), the valiant and ever vigilant FDA and EPA have determined they will not be testing ANY fish from the Gulf Of Alaska[/b].”


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I have had the Lead professors from UCB on my program doing the testing and sampling that all of these agencies are reporting on. Each one of them keep getting it wrong and over stating the results. And we keep getting the people putting radiation results for the public to see to come on and explain it all over again.

This is getting insane. They keep saying the EXACT same thing. The levels are well below, and you would be exposed to more Radiation Flying in an aircraft for Vacation.
A bannanna has more Radiation then what is being found on the soil, rainwater, tapwater, ect. And yes, I can link the audio to the thread if you like.
These blogs keep getting it wrong and hyping up the "Fallout."

Nothing agasnt anyone here, just saying your being shoved into the "Live in Fear buy our protect you product" box.

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enenews.com is a joke. You'll notice that they always spin the related articles in the worst possible light. Don't panic until you actually read the source they are deriving the info from.

Me thinks they have an agenda.spock
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It seems that all info sources have an agenda. One side says it's no worse than sunshine. The other side says we will all suffer and die. No one knows the final outcome for certain, but since there is a little radiation in the water,.... and a little in the air, and a little in the milk and a little everywhere, a little makes a lot in short order when you are accumulating it from all of those sources and more. This is especially important since we are top level consumers which eat other organisms which accumulate these isotopes making our exposure much higher than other species lower on the food chain.
Of course, we can limit our exposure by avoiding dairy, meat and other concentrated sources. The other species we share the planet with don't have that option. Whales and other filter feeding grazers which eat krill, plankton, etc. are going to accumulate astronomical levels of isotopes so dumping in the ocean can't be good for them. Between the BP and Fukushima vast portions of the oceans, air and an ever increasing amount of land are contaminated.
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I have had the Lead professors from UCB on my program doing the testing and sampling that all of these agencies are reporting on. Each one of them keep getting it wrong and over stating the results. And we keep getting the people putting radiation results for the public to see to come on and explain it all over again.

This is getting insane. They keep saying the EXACT same thing. The levels are well below, and you would be exposed to more Radiation Flying in an aircraft for Vacation.
A bannanna has more Radiation then what is being found on the soil, rainwater, tapwater, ect. And yes, I can link the audio to the thread if you like.
These blogs keep getting it wrong and hyping up the "Fallout."

Nothing agasnt anyone here, just saying your being shoved into the "Live in Fear buy our protect you product" box.

bsflag
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No offense, but I think it would be a really good idea for you to listen to this video. (Thanks to the AC who posted this)



[link to www.youtube.com]


This gentleman (an investigative reporter) explains how from the beginning the entire nuclear industry has been a disaster waiting to happen, why nuclear ‘incidents” are always excluded on homeowners policies, why Einstein regretted his involvement with nuclear weapons, why the IAE is a major conflict of interest, why the nuclear industry has no real liability for accidents, the real death toll from Chernobyl, why the risk of a major incident has been estimated at around 50% by the nuclear regulatory commission over any 20 year period, and why Japan is not really an “isolated event”


Yes, I know the video is almost an hour long, but well worth the time to become informed.

This is not an “eat a banana issue” This is something with a half life of years, being spewed out for possibly years, and something that accumulates in soil, water, animals and humans.
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I have had the Lead professors from UCB on my program doing the testing and sampling that all of these agencies are reporting on. Each one of them keep getting it wrong and over stating the results. And we keep getting the people putting radiation results for the public to see to come on and explain it all over again.

This is getting insane. They keep saying the EXACT same thing. The levels are well below, and you would be exposed to more Radiation Flying in an aircraft for Vacation.
A bannanna has more Radiation then what is being found on the soil, rainwater, tapwater, ect. And yes, I can link the audio to the thread if you like.
These blogs keep getting it wrong and hyping up the "Fallout."

Nothing agasnt anyone here, just saying your being shoved into the "Live in Fear buy our protect you product" box.

bsflag
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“Brazil nuts are even hotter than bananas, he added, sounding almost gleeful. “The radium content is off the wall!”

I tried to steer the interview back to nuclear reactors, and for a few minutes it seemed to work. He said unnecessary exposures to radiation should be avoided.

But then he said: “I love bananas. I will not give them up.”

A few days later, I tried another expert, halfway across the country from the first. I asked about radioactive iodine and cesium being found in some Japanese milk and produce.

He said there wasn’t much risk, but it would probably still be better not to eat the food. Then he said, “I just had a banana for lunch.”

Uh oh, I thought, here comes the banana speech again. IS THERE A SCRIPT CIRCULATING OUT THERE IN RADIATION LAND, "HOW TO CALM THE PUBLIC WITH BANANAS”?”


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I watched the entire video and it was very informative indeed. Apparently the whole purpose of a nuclear power plant is to BOIL WATER ... something that any kettle on a stove can do ... and for this millions of innocent people in Japan and probably around the world will die. That is very sad, that so many will die horrible deaths from cancer just because people wanted to boil water to make steam!

Even more alarming is the fact that nuclear power makes metal brittle. The plants built in the US were only supposed to run for 40 years due to this fact. But now they want to make it 60 or even 80 years! But that it not SAFE! The man in the video compared it to a car. Who would drive a 60 or 80 year old car? Ok, maybe a few people have antique cars for parades or car shows, but who drives them on a regular basis as their daily transportation, going on the highways, etc? Where would you get parts?

I went to my local health / natural food store today. Most of the vegetables - especially the green leafy ones - were from CA. I bought stuff from Mexico, like tomatoes and cucumbers. Hopefully it is safe to eat.
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I watched the entire video and it was very informative indeed. Apparently the whole purpose of a nuclear power plant is to BOIL WATER ... something that any kettle on a stove can do ... and for this millions of innocent people in Japan and probably around the world will die. That is very sad, that so many will die horrible deaths from cancer just because people wanted to boil water to make steam!

Even more alarming is the fact that nuclear power makes metal brittle. The plants built in the US were only supposed to run for 40 years due to this fact. But now they want to make it 60 or even 80 years! But that it not SAFE! The man in the video compared it to a car. Who would drive a 60 or 80 year old car? Ok, maybe a few people have antique cars for parades or car shows, but who drives them on a regular basis as their daily transportation, going on the highways, etc? Where would you get parts?

I went to my local health / natural food store today. Most of the vegetables - especially the green leafy ones - were from CA. I bought stuff from Mexico, like tomatoes and cucumbers. Hopefully it is safe to eat.
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Absolutely correct!

Another reason for the nuclear power industry is to take uranium from being a little used and nearly worthless material, and make it valuable for something.

The Queen owns mines in America, Canada and Africa. The uranium mining company Rio Tinto Mines was formed for the British Royal Family in the late 1950's by the Queen's "Africa adviser" Roland Walter Fuhrhop. Described by a fellow German as "an ardent supporter of Hitler and an arrogant, nasty piece of work to boot." The Queen's adviser (better known as "Tiny" Rowland) had been a passionate member of the Nazi youth movement. Rowland became Africa's most ruthless businessman. Africa being a prime source of the uranium used in the Queen's nuclear reactors.”


Between 1957 and 1976 British reactors produced enough nuclear waste/weapons material to suit our Defence Requirements for the next 200 years. By which time nuclear weapons will be obsolete.”

Although we had more nuclear weapons material than we could ever use, without choking on our own nuclear fallout, the Queen's cartel had no intention of giving-up their obscene profits from their nuclear power and waste companies, funded by the stroke of the royal pen with an endless supply of the taxpayers billions.”

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i brought my tomotoes in!!


no cal here..

guess i might as well cash out my 401k and head to south america

i should be good for 10 years min..

at least i'll be living it up.

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I have had the Lead professors from UCB on my program doing the testing and sampling that all of these agencies are reporting on. Each one of them keep getting it wrong and over stating the results. And we keep getting the people putting radiation results for the public to see to come on and explain it all over again.

This is getting insane. They keep saying the EXACT same thing. The levels are well below, and you would be exposed to more Radiation Flying in an aircraft for Vacation.
A bannanna has more Radiation then what is being found on the soil, rainwater, tapwater, ect. And yes, I can link the audio to the thread if you like.
These blogs keep getting it wrong and hyping up the "Fallout."

Nothing agasnt anyone here, just saying your being shoved into the "Live in Fear buy our protect you product" box.

bsflag
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No offense, but I think it would be a really good idea for you to listen to this video. (Thanks to the AC who posted this)



[link to www.youtube.com]




This gentleman (an investigative reporter) explains how from the beginning the entire nuclear industry has been a disaster waiting to happen, why nuclear ‘incidents” are always excluded on homeowners policies, why Einstein regretted his involvement with nuclear weapons, why the IAE is a major conflict of interest, why the nuclear industry has no real liability for accidents, the real death toll from Chernobyl, why the risk of a major incident has been estimated at around 50% by the nuclear regulatory commission over any 20 year period, and why Japan is not really an “isolated event”


Yes, I know the video is almost an hour long, but well worth the time to become informed.

This is not an “eat a banana issue” This is something with a half life of years, being spewed out for possibly years, and something that accumulates in soil, water, animals and humans.
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Thanks for the video Em. I watched it in full. And I am sorry to say that he is not reading the data. I have worked in media for a very long time and know exactly why they are doing this piece. Time and time again, people are ignoring or mis-stating what UCB is saying about the radiation levels. This is why I keep having the people from UCB that are doing the tests on the show. So they can again explain that the level of risk to public health is so small that its almsot absurd that others are taking their data, and using it to cause such panic. And the thing that really gets me is that everyone is buying into this hype and distracting from the real issue!
I sent out another invite to Dr. Kia Vetter. He is the one in charge of the ALL the readings and testing of samples in CA. He was on the program last time clearing up what a Journalist hacked up and reported on the data that even CNN started to run with and didnt check the facts or check with UCB.
Just please understand. You are not going to be contaminated with fallout radiation that is going to harm you. The lifespan of the actual Radiation only lasts 14 days. Then its gone. The real problem, and the real issue that is way bigger then small samples being detected in a sample of dirt in CA is the state of Japan it self. The people there, the effect the disaster is having on the world at large on the economic scale and the people that are dieing from the real High levels of Radiation. As Arnie Gunderson from Fairewinds.com stated on my program. The real danger is if the winds change and they start blowing over China then we are talking problems. Not only for China and the surrounding area, but for the globe.
So please, please when you see a blog, or video, or news report stating that THE LEVELS ARE OFF THE CHART Please check, double check and triple check from the source of the information. The actual people whos results and work is being twisted, and mis-stated.

Just saying.
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Thanks for the video Em. I watched it in full. And I am sorry to say that he is not reading the data. I have worked in media for a very long time and know exactly why they are doing this piece. Time and time again, people are ignoring or mis-stating what UCB is saying about the radiation levels. This is why I keep having the people from UCB that are doing the tests on the show. So they can again explain that the level of risk to public health is so small that its almsot absurd that others are taking their data, and using it to cause such panic. And the thing that really gets me is that everyone is buying into this hype and distracting from the real issue!
I sent out another invite to Dr. Kia Vetter. He is the one in charge of the ALL the readings and testing of samples in CA. He was on the program last time clearing up what a Journalist hacked up and reported on the data that even CNN started to run with and didnt check the facts or check with UCB.
Just please understand. You are not going to be contaminated with fallout radiation that is going to harm you. The lifespan of the actual Radiation only lasts 14 days. Then its gone. The real problem, and the real issue that is way bigger then small samples being detected in a sample of dirt in CA is the state of Japan it self. The people there, the effect the disaster is having on the world at large on the economic scale and the people that are dieing from the real High levels of Radiation. As Arnie Gunderson from Fairewinds.com stated on my program. The real danger is if the winds change and they start blowing over China then we are talking problems. Not only for China and the surrounding area, but for the globe.
So please, please when you see a blog, or video, or news report stating that THE LEVELS ARE OFF THE CHART Please check, double check and triple check from the source of the information. The actual people whos results and work is being twisted, and mis-stated.

Just saying.
peace
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I really appreciate a polite post, but I have to say that you lost me on a few things here.

The half-life of radioactive cesium 134 is around 2 years, that of cesium 137 is around 30 years, and that of plutonium is around 24,000 years, so I don’t understand the following statement that you made:The lifespan of the actual Radiation only lasts 14 days. Then its gone.”

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Also I don’t understand why it will be a catastrophe if the winds switch and blow the radioactive fall-out to China, but it is not an equal catastrophe if blown to the US.peace

BTW, I always triple check my sources, and the problem is the accumulation, not the daily levels, and the ongoing release of radioactive isotopes. (The accumulation in the soil, among other things.)

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Just got off the phone with Yasmena Vulic. Professor at UC Berkley Nuclear engineering. I wanted to get an exact update of things to make sure I my self do not mis-quote or mis-state the data.

She told me a very interesting story after saying "Why is our data so hard to understand by these media sources?"

A group of students from UCB had a chance to go to Japan. After some time of trying to decide if they should go or if they should not go. They decided to take the trip to Japan and do some readings as well as do some research on Earthquakes ect.
They took along with them instruments to do some readings of the air in Japan. Before they left last week they took some air samples in CA and it was reading 0.1 mSv. Then when they reached Japan (Tokyo) They did another air sample and found that the reading was 0.1 mSv. Same as CA. When they got 40 miles outside of Fukushima and did another reading the level jumped to 0.2 mSV. Dr Vulic asked the students to do a reading while on the plane, traveling to Japan.
Now get ready for this...
The reading, while in the air, on the plane. WAS.... 2.7mSV.

Just pointing this out because as even Dr Vulic said. The people that are saying that everything is contaminated and getting the public to buy it are profiting off of it. And that is true. Not only that, they are making the economic situation worse for the very place they live in.. CA. When other states that sell food start seeing the sales and $ signs going up because people are afraid to eat anything in CA. They want to keep that gravy train running.
And the problem is, people are helping with this by not being informed with the facts.

I really hope this helps. I am a call foul when I hear BS from the Govt and when I see a coverup of information from the powers that be, I am for sure on it like a Pitbull until the truth is exposed. But in this case, no matter what way I attack it. I keep coming up with the same answer. The lie that is Dangerous Radiation in the states from Japan; is just to wide spread.
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Just got off the phone with Yasmena Vulic. Professor at UC Berkley Nuclear engineering. I wanted to get an exact update of things to make sure I my self do not mis-quote or mis-state the data.

She told me a very interesting story after saying "Why is our data so hard to understand by these media sources?"

A group of students from UCB had a chance to go to Japan. After some time of trying to decide if they should go or if they should not go. They decided to take the trip to Japan and do some readings as well as do some research on Earthquakes ect.
They took along with them instruments to do some readings of the air in Japan. Before they left last week they took some air samples in CA and it was reading 0.1 mSv. Then when they reached Japan (Tokyo) They did another air sample and found that the reading was 0.1 mSv. Same as CA. When they got 40 miles outside of Fukushima and did another reading the level jumped to 0.2 mSV. Dr Vulic asked the students to do a reading while on the plane, traveling to Japan.
Now get ready for this...
The reading, while in the air, on the plane. WAS.... 2.7mSV.

Just pointing this out because as even Dr Vulic said. The people that are saying that everything is contaminated and getting the public to buy it are profiting off of it. And that is true. Not only that, they are making the economic situation worse for the very place they live in.. CA. When other states that sell food start seeing the sales and $ signs going up because people are afraid to eat anything in CA. They want to keep that gravy train running.
And the problem is, people are helping with this by not being informed with the facts.

I really hope this helps. I am a call foul when I hear BS from the Govt and when I see a coverup of information from the powers that be, I am for sure on it like a Pitbull until the truth is exposed. But in this case, no matter what way I attack it. I keep coming up with the same answer. The lie that is Dangerous Radiation in the states from Japan; is just to wide spread.
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I understand that, but there is a difference from solar radiation that one is exposed to for a couple of hours, versus radioactive isotopes that one ingests, and that are incorporated into body tissues remaining radioactive for YEARS.peace

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Just got off the phone with Yasmena Vulic. Professor at UC Berkley Nuclear engineering. I wanted to get an exact update of things to make sure I my self do not mis-quote or mis-state the data.

She told me a very interesting story after saying "Why is our data so hard to understand by these media sources?"

A group of students from UCB had a chance to go to Japan. After some time of trying to decide if they should go or if they should not go. They decided to take the trip to Japan and do some readings as well as do some research on Earthquakes ect.
They took along with them instruments to do some readings of the air in Japan. Before they left last week they took some air samples in CA and it was reading 0.1 mSv. Then when they reached Japan (Tokyo) They did another air sample and found that the reading was 0.1 mSv. Same as CA. When they got 40 miles outside of Fukushima and did another reading the level jumped to 0.2 mSV. Dr Vulic asked the students to do a reading while on the plane, traveling to Japan.
Now get ready for this...
The reading, while in the air, on the plane. WAS.... 2.7mSV.

Just pointing this out because as even Dr Vulic said. The people that are saying that everything is contaminated and getting the public to buy it are profiting off of it. And that is true. Not only that, they are making the economic situation worse for the very place they live in.. CA. When other states that sell food start seeing the sales and $ signs going up because people are afraid to eat anything in CA. They want to keep that gravy train running.
And the problem is, people are helping with this by not being informed with the facts.

I really hope this helps. I am a call foul when I hear BS from the Govt and when I see a coverup of information from the powers that be, I am for sure on it like a Pitbull until the truth is exposed. But in this case, no matter what way I attack it. I keep coming up with the same answer. The lie that is Dangerous Radiation in the states from Japan; is just to wide spread.
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I understand that, but there is a difference from solar radiation that one is exposed to for a couple of hours, versus radioactive isotopes that one ingests, and that are incorporated into body tissues remaining radioactive for YEARS.peace
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Then be happy that this is not happening in CA. Looking over the data again from UCB. I dont see where these guys get their facts from.


And also.. Em.. Great thread and post. Cheers to you! I gotta pull my self away from GLP to get ready for tonights broadcast but will check back on this post later. Great topic and debate. Thanks all.

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Why does everyone keep saying, we gotta do something about this? Nothing can be done to stop what is already happening. And being informed does nothing to change the situation. It's already in the air and food etc so it's already in our bodies, we cannot stop it from happening. I don't see how posting thread after thread of stats from the internet is helping anyone. Most people don't even understand how to read the maps they post or help us understand the data they are posting.
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Then be happy that this is not happening in CA. Looking over the data again from UCB. I dont see where these guys get their facts from.


And also.. Em.. Great thread and post. Cheers to you! I gotta pull my self away from GLP to get ready for tonights broadcast but will check back on this post later. Great topic and debate. Thanks all.
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Thanks,hf

I really enjoy a good discussion myself.

I have enough experience with scientific data to know that sometimes small changes in the way data is reported, parameters, baselines, ect can slant things a bit one way or another.

As you are in media, ask some tough questions...lmao
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Why does everyone keep saying, we gotta do something about this? Nothing can be done to stop what is already happening. And being informed does nothing to change the situation. It's already in the air and food etc so it's already in our bodies, we cannot stop it from happening. I don't see how posting thread after thread of stats from the internet is helping anyone. Most people don't even understand how to read the maps they post or help us understand the data they are posting.
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That is exactly what I have been doing my best to do by having the actual people that are doing the readings, and putting out the reports that everyone keeps exaggerating on air live to explain in detail what is being found, if there is a danger to people, and what it all means. Because the media and these bloggers and sad to say even programs are not getting it right. Only way to weed through the BS is to know what the facts are.
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I have had the Lead professors from UCB on my program doing the testing and sampling that all of these agencies are reporting on. Each one of them keep getting it wrong and over stating the results. And we keep getting the people putting radiation results for the public to see to come on and explain it all over again.

This is getting insane. They keep saying the EXACT same thing. The levels are well below, and you would be exposed to more Radiation Flying in an aircraft for Vacation.
A bannanna has more Radiation then what is being found on the soil, rainwater, tapwater, ect. And yes, I can link the audio to the thread if you like.
These blogs keep getting it wrong and hyping up the "Fallout."

Nothing agasnt anyone here, just saying your being shoved into the "Live in Fear buy our protect you product" box.

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No offense, but I think it would be a really good idea for you to listen to this video. (Thanks to the AC who posted this)



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This gentleman (an investigative reporter) explains how from the beginning the entire nuclear industry has been a disaster waiting to happen, why nuclear ‘incidents” are always excluded on homeowners policies, why Einstein regretted his involvement with nuclear weapons, why the IAE is a major conflict of interest, why the nuclear industry has no real liability for accidents, the real death toll from Chernobyl, why the risk of a major incident has been estimated at around 50% by the nuclear regulatory commission over any 20 year period, and why Japan is not really an “isolated event”


Yes, I know the video is almost an hour long, but well worth the time to become informed.

This is not an “eat a banana issue” This is something with a half life of years, being spewed out for possibly years, and something that accumulates in soil, water, animals and humans.
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Thanks for the video Em. I watched it in full. And I am sorry to say that he is not reading the data. I have worked in media for a very long time and know exactly why they are doing this piece. Time and time again, people are ignoring or mis-stating what UCB is saying about the radiation levels. This is why I keep having the people from UCB that are doing the tests on the show. So they can again explain that the level of risk to public health is so small that its almsot absurd that others are taking their data, and using it to cause such panic. And the thing that really gets me is that everyone is buying into this hype and distracting from the real issue!
I sent out another invite to Dr. Kia Vetter. He is the one in charge of the ALL the readings and testing of samples in CA. He was on the program last time clearing up what a Journalist hacked up and reported on the data that even CNN started to run with and didnt check the facts or check with UCB.
Just please understand. You are not going to be contaminated with fallout radiation that is going to harm you. The lifespan of the actual Radiation only lasts 14 days. Then its gone. The real problem, and the real issue that is way bigger then small samples being detected in a sample of dirt in CA is the state of Japan it self. The people there, the effect the disaster is having on the world at large on the economic scale and the people that are dieing from the real High levels of Radiation. As Arnie Gunderson from Fairewinds.com stated on my program. The real danger is if the winds change and they start blowing over China then we are talking problems. Not only for China and the surrounding area, but for the globe.
So please, please when you see a blog, or video, or news report stating that THE LEVELS ARE OFF THE CHART Please check, double check and triple check from the source of the information. The actual people whos results and work is being twisted, and mis-stated.

Just saying.
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wtf

When we are seeing 10x cpm on radnet air monitors I'd have to say the risk is no longer negligible. Your statements seem to contradict the obvious. Rainfall will only increase the levels, so although we are at 10x in SoCal, many areas where it has been raining are getting much more than this. If you follow the paths by the plume predictions and cpm readings it is easy to track the contamination as it travels across the US. Many places through the middle and on the East are getting more radiation to ground and water. This can't have positive effects although the extent of the negative effects will not be known for years and will, for the most part, inevitably be attributed to other sources.
Some may be exaggerating the potential effects, but the MSM are downplaying everything in most cases.
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Thanks,hf

I really enjoy a good discussion myself.

I have enough experience with scientific data to know that sometimes small changes in the way data is reported, parameters, baselines, ect can slant things a bit one way or another.

As you are in media, ask some tough questions...lmao


Indeed! Err, O.K. I said I needed to pull away from GLP to get going for tonights program and look at me.. Sheesh, I got addicted to this post.. Ok. now my producer is eyeing me to get work done. HAHA. Better go. Cheers!
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hmmmm

I guess the most recent tests are not yet posted.


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pretty eye you got there. sideways





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