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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1341927 United States 04/24/2011 02:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | As to why we feel good/bad to good/evil, it's an evolved "feature" through the long long LONG history of us humans living as a social animal that required cooperation among the close relatives to survive/florish. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1347561It's all biological, it's just as explainable as why we feel the "urge" or "drive" to have sex, or why our adrenaline rises when we see danger. It has absolutely nothing to do with "god". People need to learn science. Without it people will just keep believing in fairy tales for explainations for EVERYFUCKINGTHING because they can't fit anything else in their tiny heads. You believe in evolution. That's hilarious. Science is a huge joke. One of the best jokes about "science" is that for decades they confidently assert a theory as fact, then they're proven wrong. They look SO incredibly STUPID. Example: so-called genius Einstein's theories are crumbling but nothing is replacing them. We still don't know crap, despite arrogant scientists' statements to the contrary. Obvious troll is obvious. Case closed. You can't refute the stupidity of science and its adherents. You're virtually religious about it. |
ObeWayneKenobe
(OP) User ID: 1330622 United States 04/24/2011 02:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Some people don't have conscience like psychopaths... Quoting: MustisBut doesn't the fact that some have a "conscience", suggest that there is a God? Absolutely not. Your "conscience" is natural to your spirit. We're told by the religious that we can't possess a conscience without a god that created it. Ever ask "why" -- why would we need a god to create our conscience? Your spirit is self-existent, as is your conscience, and is the product of who-knows-how-many incarnations. Your experiences have molded you but your conscience is independent of those. Then why are SOME "Loving"......and some aren't? What are those connected to, that makes them Loving?? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1347561 United Kingdom 04/24/2011 02:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If "god" really exists then how come the people how never knew anything about "god" e.g. the ancient Romans or Egyptians or Chinese lived happy and productive lives and had a florished culture and civilization? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1347561What I really mean is "god" doesn't exist, it's just a wide spread fairy tale. But couldn't that depend upon One's definition of God? No, there is nothing "god" to begin with, all kinds of "gods" are by definition made-up entities that do not exist in real life. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1347561 United Kingdom 04/24/2011 02:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | As to why we feel good/bad to good/evil, it's an evolved "feature" through the long long LONG history of us humans living as a social animal that required cooperation among the close relatives to survive/florish. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1347561It's all biological, it's just as explainable as why we feel the "urge" or "drive" to have sex, or why our adrenaline rises when we see danger. It has absolutely nothing to do with "god". People need to learn science. Without it people will just keep believing in fairy tales for explainations for EVERYFUCKINGTHING because they can't fit anything else in their tiny heads. You believe in evolution. That's hilarious. Science is a huge joke. One of the best jokes about "science" is that for decades they confidently assert a theory as fact, then they're proven wrong. They look SO incredibly STUPID. Example: so-called genius Einstein's theories are crumbling but nothing is replacing them. We still don't know crap, despite arrogant scientists' statements to the contrary. Obvious troll is obvious. Case closed. You can't refute the stupidity of science and its adherents. You're virtually religious about it. Obvious troll is obvious. Let me put up this sign of "Do not feed the troll". |
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ObeWayneKenobe
(OP) User ID: 1330622 United States 04/24/2011 02:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | As to why we feel good/bad to good/evil, it's an evolved "feature" through the long long LONG history of us humans living as a social animal that required cooperation among the close relatives to survive/florish. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1347561It's all biological, it's just as explainable as why we feel the "urge" or "drive" to have sex, or why our adrenaline rises when we see danger. It has absolutely nothing to do with "god". People need to learn science. Without it people will just keep believing in fairy tales for explainations for EVERYFUCKINGTHING because they can't fit anything else in their tiny heads. Yes, but would we even have Science, if we hadn't first been Created? Did Science Create us.........or has Science simply not gotten around to defining the real Truth about what God is yet? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1326366 United States 04/24/2011 02:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | As to why we feel good/bad to good/evil, it's an evolved "feature" through the long long LONG history of us humans living as a social animal that required cooperation among the close relatives to survive/florish. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1347561It's all biological, it's just as explainable as why we feel the "urge" or "drive" to have sex, or why our adrenaline rises when we see danger. It has absolutely nothing to do with "god". People need to learn science. Without it people will just keep believing in fairy tales for explainations for EVERYFUCKINGTHING because they can't fit anything else in their tiny heads. You believe in evolution. That's hilarious. Science is a huge joke. One of the best jokes about "science" is that for decades they confidently assert a theory as fact, then they're proven wrong. They look SO incredibly STUPID. Example: so-called genius Einstein's theories are crumbling but nothing is replacing them. We still don't know crap, despite arrogant scientists' statements to the contrary. ___________________________________________ Ok. Prove me wrong. Magical Smurfs created the Earth 650 years ago. I know this because Papa Smurf himself whispered magical knowledge to me in my sleep. Everyone who does not believe me are going to be sent by Papa Smurf to the evil Gargamel to be eaten. Papa Smurf speaks to me and I can hear his thoughts. _________________________________________ You can't prove me wrong, nor can I prove that God doesn't exist. But you can't say, through the development of knowledge throughout the years, that all science is wrong because one theory was proven wrong. Humans are getting more and more knowledge of the universe and, of course, the person that is looking at the universe is going to have less knowledge available to them hundreds of years ago. Sometimes I wish I did have a child-like mentality that simple "magic" created everything...and still be content with never even questioning it. |
ObeWayneKenobe
(OP) User ID: 1330622 United States 04/24/2011 02:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | but then again, belief in God is a magical thing, sort of like if children were never told that Santa Claus isn't real, and their parents also believed in Santa Claus. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1326366Do you believe that Intelligence is equal in all of us.......or are some more Intelligence than others? So why can't there be a Supreme Intelligence??? I'd be willing to bet atheists are better at deductive math than those that believe in God. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1326366I don't believe that is the issue......for each of us ARE individuals! imho |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1347561 United Kingdom 04/24/2011 02:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | As to why we feel good/bad to good/evil, it's an evolved "feature" through the long long LONG history of us humans living as a social animal that required cooperation among the close relatives to survive/florish. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1347561It's all biological, it's just as explainable as why we feel the "urge" or "drive" to have sex, or why our adrenaline rises when we see danger. It has absolutely nothing to do with "god". People need to learn science. Without it people will just keep believing in fairy tales for explainations for EVERYFUCKINGTHING because they can't fit anything else in their tiny heads. Yes, but would we even have Science, if we hadn't first been Created? Did Science Create us.........or has Science simply not gotten around to defining the real Truth about what God is yet? Science explains why people need to make up a god figure. Science explains what is real; it does not explain imaginary things. Science explains. We are not "made", we are evolved, over the eons, slowly and gradually, into existence. Manifested. Not "made" or "assembled" or "appear from thin air" or "intellectally designed" or "designed" at all. We are simply a smarter kind of monkeys, that is all. |
ObeWayneKenobe
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(OP) User ID: 1330622 United States 04/24/2011 02:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If "god" really exists then how come the people how never knew anything about "god" e.g. the ancient Romans or Egyptians or Chinese lived happy and productive lives and had a florished culture and civilization? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1347561What I really mean is "god" doesn't exist, it's just a wide spread fairy tale. But couldn't that depend upon One's definition of God? No, there is nothing "god" to begin with, all kinds of "gods" are by definition made-up entities that do not exist in real life. Well that could be True......with the exception of the ONE that is! lol |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1347561 United Kingdom 04/24/2011 02:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If "god" really exists then how come the people how never knew anything about "god" e.g. the ancient Romans or Egyptians or Chinese lived happy and productive lives and had a florished culture and civilization? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1347561What I really mean is "god" doesn't exist, it's just a wide spread fairy tale. But couldn't that depend upon One's definition of God? No, there is nothing "god" to begin with, all kinds of "gods" are by definition made-up entities that do not exist in real life. Well that could be True......with the exception of the ONE that is! lol You're not even making any fucking sense. |
ObeWayneKenobe
(OP) User ID: 1330622 United States 04/24/2011 02:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Every time I see a butterfly I know that Magical Ancient Aliens created the world, because without Magical Ancient Aliens how could there be anything so beautiful as butterflies and the sky? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1326366Maybe you are right, and everything just IS.........that NOTHING created nothing! But I don't think so.......? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1347561 United Kingdom 04/24/2011 02:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Every time I see a butterfly I know that Magical Ancient Aliens created the world, because without Magical Ancient Aliens how could there be anything so beautiful as butterflies and the sky? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1326366Maybe you are right, and everything just IS.........that NOTHING created nothing! But I don't think so.......? Not created. Manifested. |
ObeWayneKenobe
(OP) User ID: 1330622 United States 04/24/2011 02:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | And again, morals are not connected to God OR emotions. Quoting: CorporalCleggTake Charles Manson for instance. Killing people made him feel good. It made his brain produce the same chemicals produced when Mother Theresa helped the poor. But look at it from a different perspective: If "emotions" are "Energy in Motion".........then couldn't Mr. Manson's energy been coming from a counter source, than that of God's? |
ObeWayneKenobe
(OP) User ID: 1330622 United States 04/24/2011 02:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | As to why we feel good/bad to good/evil, it's an evolved "feature" through the long long LONG history of us humans living as a social animal that required cooperation among the close relatives to survive/florish. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1347561It's all biological, it's just as explainable as why we feel the "urge" or "drive" to have sex, or why our adrenaline rises when we see danger. It has absolutely nothing to do with "god". People need to learn science. Without it people will just keep believing in fairy tales for explainations for EVERYFUCKINGTHING because they can't fit anything else in their tiny heads. Yes, but would we even have Science, if we hadn't first been Created? Did Science Create us.........or has Science simply not gotten around to defining the real Truth about what God is yet? Science explains why people need to make up a god figure. Science explains what is real; it does not explain imaginary things. Science explains. We are not "made", we are evolved, over the eons, slowly and gradually, into existence. Manifested. Not "made" or "assembled" or "appear from thin air" or "intellectally designed" or "designed" at all. We are simply a smarter kind of monkeys, that is all. I'm not saying that WE haven't evolved: But couldn't God have had a hand in OUR evolution? |
ObeWayneKenobe
(OP) User ID: 1330622 United States 04/24/2011 02:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: ObeWayneKenobeBut couldn't that depend upon One's definition of God? No, there is nothing "god" to begin with, all kinds of "gods" are by definition made-up entities that do not exist in real life. Well that could be True......with the exception of the ONE that is! lol You're not even making any fucking sense. Sorry.......I was trying to say that: There can be as many misperceptions as there are humans......but only ONE Truth! |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1347561 United Kingdom 04/24/2011 02:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | As to why we feel good/bad to good/evil, it's an evolved "feature" through the long long LONG history of us humans living as a social animal that required cooperation among the close relatives to survive/florish. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1347561It's all biological, it's just as explainable as why we feel the "urge" or "drive" to have sex, or why our adrenaline rises when we see danger. It has absolutely nothing to do with "god". People need to learn science. Without it people will just keep believing in fairy tales for explainations for EVERYFUCKINGTHING because they can't fit anything else in their tiny heads. Yes, but would we even have Science, if we hadn't first been Created? Did Science Create us.........or has Science simply not gotten around to defining the real Truth about what God is yet? Science explains why people need to make up a god figure. Science explains what is real; it does not explain imaginary things. Science explains. We are not "made", we are evolved, over the eons, slowly and gradually, into existence. Manifested. Not "made" or "assembled" or "appear from thin air" or "intellectally designed" or "designed" at all. We are simply a smarter kind of monkeys, that is all. I'm not saying that WE haven't evolved: But couldn't God have had a hand in OUR evolution? Nope, god doesn't exist, anywhere, in our universe, outside our universe, no. Physical laws do not permits so and if there was anything "abnormal" happened we would have detected it. There is no "intellect" other than, ourselves, animals, and aliens (if there is any). There is no "intellect" involved in the shaping of our universe, or what is outside it. Simple rules, automated infinity. Physics. |
ObeWayneKenobe
(OP) User ID: 1330622 United States 04/24/2011 02:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Every time I see a butterfly I know that Magical Ancient Aliens created the world, because without Magical Ancient Aliens how could there be anything so beautiful as butterflies and the sky? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1326366Maybe you are right, and everything just IS.........that NOTHING created nothing! But I don't think so.......? Not created. Manifested. Interesting choice of wording! Manifested......not Created.....ok........I can see that too! But that which is "manifested" is projected from somewhere, isn't it? The guitar makes no sound, until the string is plucked! (?) |
CorporalClegg
User ID: 1355297 United States 04/24/2011 02:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I also don't believe in absolute good or absolute bad. I think altruistic love is, though not entirely a myth, certainly a buttered up version of the truth. Quoting: CorporalCleggI agree! "Good & bad" are really just perceptions...... Yup. As is language. Side Note - You guys should read Derrida. He was mostly a linguist but his ideas can be applied to the God debacle. He says there is the signifier and the signified, or the word "tree" and what you think when you hear "tree." A tree is a tree because a tree is not a mouse. Basically he is saying all things are in reference to another. In the case of good and bad, there is no absolute perfect good or bad. You can only say something is good because you compare it to past experiences, and it that good thing is good because it is better than what came before. Basically, words are like reality cookie cutters. You can name anything - cut the cookie into any shape you want - but it is still a cookie and it still came from something not a cookie. Even simpler - reality is a gigantic thesaurus, or a search on wikipedia. You look something up, learn about, then you are referred to something else. Where did the tree come from? A seed? Where did the seed come from? Before you know it you are at the big bang and left with something, for all intents and purposes, unnameable; the beginning, or as Derrida would say, the "transcendental signified," or the thing from which all differences are made. But alas, linguistics and theology do have paths that will never cross. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1347561 United Kingdom 04/24/2011 02:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1347561No, there is nothing "god" to begin with, all kinds of "gods" are by definition made-up entities that do not exist in real life. Well that could be True......with the exception of the ONE that is! lol You're not even making any fucking sense. Sorry.......I was trying to say that: There can be as many misperceptions as there are humans......but only ONE Truth! Well, you failed to say that, because what you have said means "there might be many gods that are made up but there is only one real god". Please learn to use better languagles because you have totally conveyed a different meaning. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1347561 United Kingdom 04/24/2011 02:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Because God and emotions are two completely different things? One is an idea and the other is caused by rushes of dopamine and serotonin? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1355297spoken like a true tool. Lazy troll is too lazy. Warning sign "Do not feed the troll." |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1347561 United Kingdom 04/24/2011 02:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It has everything to do with God, we were instilled to have those feelings. Most people naturally do because that is how they were created. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1045344Not because of "how they were created" but because of their lack of education and their exposure to the cancerous bible or similar things. |
inkredibro User ID: 1355309 United States 04/24/2011 02:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I feel the OP. Why is good, GOOD and bad is BAD, as in what determined what's of good and what's of bad. like, why is bad to talk loud or give a good ol "woot" every now and then in public libraries but ok in public parks? sure you may be desturbing other readers but why is it determined bad if dogs can bark at all times of the night when I'm trying to damn sleep?!?! --- ok those are some bad examples maybe this: Some species kill and eat others and their own for food and nourishment and crap. Why is it bad if a human does? ( please do not mistake this as a desire to do so!!! - just giving an example!!! ) but when other animals or species does it, it's the circle of life, or nature or whatever. What makes humans different, because we are intelligent? we will condom killing each other for the purpose of JUSTICE and crap....soooo... why don't other species feel as we do when they kill? arent we all product of nature? we got the killing each other part down packed, just got a bunch of rules to it. i think this might be a better one. what if a poor chinese kid in the slums of some poor Chinese village who havent ate in days, stole one of donald trumps fries when he was looking as he was touring where to build a casino - AFTER HE ALREADY ASKED FOR ONE. that kid would get punished. hes hungry, needs a damn french fry, donald trump is dumb rich with a whole super-sized carton full of them and by law in pretty much every country that kid is WRONG. why? 0.o |