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"Christians does not ascend to heaven" Jesus said. Pin this!

 
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"Christians does not ascend to heaven" Jesus said. Pin this!
"Consider the traditional beliefs of professing Christianity, which teaches that the saved go to heaven when they die. Presumably, this view is founded on the Bible—or is it?

Jesus Christ emphatically and clearly stated, “And no man has ascended up to heaven, but He that came down from heaven, even the Son of man [Christ]” (John 3:13). Billions of professing Christians believe that when one dies, he or she goes to heaven—but this contradicts what Jesus said! And keep in mind that when Christ said, “no man has ascended up to heaven,” scores of God’s servants from the Old Testament had already died. Take King David, for example, described as a man after God’s own heart (Acts 13:22). The Bible explains that he will rule in God’s kingdom. Certainly, he would be in heaven, right?

But notice: “Men and brethren, let me freely speak unto you of the patriarch David, that he is both dead and buried, and his sepulchre is with us unto this day…For David is not ascended into the heavens” (Acts 2:29, 34). If we believe Christ’s words, then these faithful servants of God did not ascend to heaven.

Surprisingly, the very groups that profess to follow the Bible do not actually read or understand what is found in it! God’s Word is very clear—heaven is not the reward of the saved. (To learn more, read our booklet Do the Saved Go to Heaven?)"

Suck on this religious tards!

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Even if it were true... this won't affect christians' beliefs.

So you are the tard here.
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please pin this so it can be more easily ignored.
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Man you are SOOOOOOO STUPID.

You should be embarrassed for even posting this.

No man could go to heaven until jesus died, fool. If Jesus said it, he obviously wasn't dead.
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Even if it were true... this won't affect christians' beliefs.

So you are the tard here.
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Lol, mortzi mati. I don't give a shit moron, I just posted it for fun.
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You lost me at "ChristianS DOES"...maybe you should have listened a little better to your English teacher before you try to quote Jesus using improper grammar. chuckle
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You lost me at "ChristianS DOES"...maybe you should have listened a little better to your English teacher before you try to quote Jesus using improper grammar. chuckle
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Yeah well that was exactly my point. I prefer calling christians for "it". So you fail, fucktard.
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Actually most christian sects teach that the 'saved' ascend during rapture or on judgment day... not immediately upon death.

So your premise is flawed from the get-go.

PS, I'm not a christian, so don't bother to rail at me.

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Actually most christian sects teach that the 'saved' ascend during rapture or on judgment day... not immediately upon death.

So your premise is flawed from the get-go.

PS, I'm not a christian, so don't bother to rail at me.
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Read the whole article.
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Actually most christian sects teach that the 'saved' ascend during rapture or on judgment day... not immediately upon death.

So your premise is flawed from the get-go.

PS, I'm not a christian, so don't bother to rail at me.
 Quoting: Sandi_T


Read the whole article.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1177368


No thanks. I responded to what you posted, which is obviously based upon an erroneous teaching.

Skimming the article, it's just more crap on top of the crap you quoted.

Christianity in general is propoganda
No more requests in the "Strangest things" thread please. :hf:

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Actually most christian sects teach that the 'saved' ascend during rapture or on judgment day... not immediately upon death.

So your premise is flawed from the get-go.

PS, I'm not a christian, so don't bother to rail at me.
 Quoting: Sandi_T


Read the whole article.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1177368


No thanks. I responded to what you posted, which is obviously based upon an erroneous teaching.

Skimming the article, it's just more crap on top of the crap you quoted.

Christianity in general is propoganda
 Quoting: Sandi_T


Yeah I noticed that too while reading more of it. Erhm... fuck it.
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In reading the entire passage you quote from it is obviously talking about RESURRECTION since it says in verse 31 ..."that his soul was not left in hell, neither his flesh did see corruption". This refers to Yeshua only being dead for 3 days and his flesh not decomposing to the point of corruption.

If you go back to verse 29 he states that David is still in the sepulcher and has not been resurrected as of yet.

The OBVIOUS meaning of this passage is that the resurrection of the BODY has not yet happened because David's body is still with them; HOWEVER, YESHUA HAS BEEN RISEN BY GOD as stated in verse 32!!!!!!

This was so easy to see... it is not talking about the soul, since it is talking about bodies, tombs/sepulchers, Christ RISEN bodily (...remember flesh did not see corruption...). The resurrection of Christ is the focal point of Christianity, he is saying that his resurrection is the hope that David and one day ALL BELIEVERS in Christ (before the Cross and after the Cross) will one day be resurrected. And when will that be???? Look at verse 35, "UNTIL I (FATHER GOD) MAKE THEY FOES THY FOOTSTOOL" - This is a reference to his second coming and it talks about foes being made his footstool which is what Yeshua does at the battle of Armageddon.

OP, you fail in your attempt to mock God and his Word. You do not understand the Word of God because you do not have the Holy Spirit and you will always fail in interpreting the Word until you REPENT and come to Yeshua for your salvation. Remember you only have until your last breath to come to him, after that it is too late. He loves you and wants to save you and will forgive you for anything you have done, you only need to ask and believe.
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We are all going to ascend this round... and soon.... not rapture, but ascend like Jesus did...


Earth is going to be empty of oil, food and all other manner of sustainable stuff within 20 years... slow death.....



the Divine Plan is ascension and it has NOTHING to do with religions.... religions are man-made anomolies.... even the bible is man-written. and edited. and small man-made concepts are abound.


those who love our creator will go through ascension this and next year....

so if you see people disapear from in front of you, this is ascension



not rapture... for that limited man-made concept acts like people could not ascend. But we are hard wired to do it in our DNA. Jesus and other came to show us HOW.


so LOVE ONE ANOTHER!
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Opie, you little bitter meatball, go back to school and quit bothering the grownups.
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Re: "Christians does not ascend to heaven" Jesus said. Pin this!
"Consider the traditional beliefs of professing Christianity, which teaches that the saved go to heaven when they die. Presumably, this view is founded on the Bible—or is it?

Jesus Christ emphatically and clearly stated, “And no man has ascended up to heaven, but He that came down from heaven, even the Son of man [Christ]” (John 3:13). Billions of professing Christians believe that when one dies, he or she goes to heaven—but this contradicts what Jesus said! And keep in mind that when Christ said, “no man has ascended up to heaven,” scores of God’s servants from the Old Testament had already died. Take King David, for example, described as a man after God’s own heart (Acts 13:22). The Bible explains that he will rule in God’s kingdom. Certainly, he would be in heaven, right?

But notice: “Men and brethren, let me freely speak unto you of the patriarch David, that he is both dead and buried, and his sepulchre is with us unto this day…For David is not ascended into the heavens” (Acts 2:29, 34). If we believe Christ’s words, then these faithful servants of God did not ascend to heaven.

Surprisingly, the very groups that profess to follow the Bible do not actually read or understand what is found in it! God’s Word is very clear—heaven is not the reward of the saved. (To learn more, read our booklet Do the Saved Go to Heaven?)"

Suck on this religious tards!

[link to www.realtruth.org]
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JESUS said, I go to prepare a place for you, and where I am you shall be. In my Father's Home are many mansions.
If you break my wings, I will just find a cloud and learn to fly again. The Lord will catch you when you fall or teach you to fly! May the footprints I leave lead you to BELIEVE.





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