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Gov. Bobby Jindal releases his birth certificate...LOL | |
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User ID: 1373427 United States05/07/2011 12:30 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | BTW, Both Jindal and Rubio may have Naturaal Born issues. Not sure if their parents were citizens at the times of their births. THIS I believe is the reason that the Repubs will NOT take a stand. They want a minority candidate BADLY and Jindal and Rubio are rising stars. I happen to like both of them, but I will raise just as much hell if they try to run for president unless they are eligible as I have about Obama. Sorry if it is an inconvience to the REPUBS and their pandering plans but the rule of law means something to Americans. Truth Is God's Daughter - Spanish Proverb. "Silence Is Treason" Geert Wilders |
| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 1081323 United States05/07/2011 12:37 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Wow, way to write a biased article. Quoting: Say_It_LoudBTW, Both Jindal and Rubio may have Naturaal Born issues. Not sure if their parents were citizens at the times of their births. THIS I believe is the reason that the Repubs will NOT take a stand. They want a minority candidate BADLY and Jindal and Rubio are rising stars. I happen to like both of them, but I will raise just as much hell if they try to run for president unless they are eligible as I have about Obama. Sorry if it is an inconvience to the REPUBS and their pandering plans but the rule of law means something to Americans. The article becomes a little confusing. In the third paragraph, it states his parents did secure green cards. And that.... They arrived Feb 1, 1971, and a bit over six months later, on June 10, 1971, Piyush Jindal was born at Woman's Hospital in Baton Rouge, a natural-born U.S. citizen, who like every other child born in America, could, constitutionally, grow up to be president. But then later in the article it says... Asked whether he was concerned that his legislation could adversely affect a future Bobby Jindal, whose parents simply chose to come to the United States on a student visa instead of a green card, Vitter replied, "Let's not get distracted from the real issue."  |
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User ID: 1373427 United States05/07/2011 12:52 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Hmm, that is odd. But how they came isn't really the issue, whether student visa or green card. As long as they were CITIZENS at the time of his birth, he is natural born. I get the impression they are trying to redefine Natural Born. I mean, what happens to some of the kids born now, in broken homes, mom isn't even sure who the dad is? Or dad split and she doesn't know what his status was. This will be a mess down the road. BUT for now...Obama knew the rules, they were in place, no leeway there. BTW.... I LOVE your Avatar! It is so striking! Last Edited by Say_It_Loud on 05/07/2011 12:52 AM Truth Is God's Daughter - Spanish Proverb. "Silence Is Treason" Geert Wilders |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1359883 United States05/07/2011 12:58 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | First, it's interesting that David Vitter, who went to law school where he would have taken a class on Constitutional law, would introduce a bill defining a term in the Constitution. It's the Supreme Court's job to interpret the Constitution, NOT Congress' job. So if he's trying to define "natural born," he's in the wrong branch of government. Second, we already have the 14th amendment, which states that if you are born in the US, you are a citizen. Period. So, if Vitter is merely trying to set parameters for regular citizenship, his bill would need to repeal the 14th amendment. |
| Serenity Now User ID: 1359883 United States05/07/2011 12:59 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The Republicans tried to get a Constitutional amendment passed back in 2006 to allow foreign-born people that later became US citizens to run for president. The amendment never made it out of the Judicial committee. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1359883First, it's interesting that David Vitter, who went to law school where he would have taken a class on Constitutional law, would introduce a bill defining a term in the Constitution. It's the Supreme Court's job to interpret the Constitution, NOT Congress' job. So if he's trying to define "natural born," he's in the wrong branch of government. Second, we already have the 14th amendment, which states that if you are born in the US, you are a citizen. Period. So, if Vitter is merely trying to set parameters for regular citizenship, his bill would need to repeal the 14th amendment. This is my post. I forgot to add my name when I wrote it. |
| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 1081323 United States05/07/2011 01:04 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The Republicans tried to get a Constitutional amendment passed back in 2006 to allow foreign-born people that later became US citizens to run for president. The amendment never made it out of the Judicial committee. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1359883First, it's interesting that David Vitter, who went to law school where he would have taken a class on Constitutional law, would introduce a bill defining a term in the Constitution. It's the Supreme Court's job to interpret the Constitution, NOT Congress' job. So if he's trying to define "natural born," he's in the wrong branch of government. Second, we already have the 14th amendment, which states that if you are born in the US, you are a citizen. Period. So, if Vitter is merely trying to set parameters for regular citizenship, his bill would need to repeal the 14th amendment. Thanks ~ There was a thread here the other night about removing dictionary entries on "natural born citizen". It seems like there is a movement to confuse this issue. |
| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 1081323 United States05/07/2011 01:20 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but it doesn't specify in the Constitution that both parents have to be born here, let alone citizens at the time. Only the person in question....must be born here. Hence, a natural born citizen. |
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User ID: 1373427 United States05/07/2011 01:26 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Thanks Say it Loud ~ Quoting: MadiganSomeone correct me if I'm wrong, but it doesn't specify in the Constitution that both parents have to be born here, let alone citizens at the time. Only the person in question....must be born here. Hence, a natural born citizen. That is what is going to need to be defined but for now, both parents must be citizens for the child to be natural born. Both. BTW, I just learned that ROmney's father was born in Mexico to two Americans. I wonder how many of those who want to be president have issues and THAT is why they don't want this to be brought up/ Truth Is God's Daughter - Spanish Proverb. "Silence Is Treason" Geert Wilders |
| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 1081323 United States05/07/2011 01:36 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Thanks Say it Loud ~ Quoting: MadiganSomeone correct me if I'm wrong, but it doesn't specify in the Constitution that both parents have to be born here, let alone citizens at the time. Only the person in question....must be born here. Hence, a natural born citizen. That is what is going to need to be defined but for now, both parents must be citizens for the child to be natural born. Both. BTW, I just learned that ROmney's father was born in Mexico to two Americans. I wonder how many of those who want to be president have issues and THAT is why they don't want this to be brought up/ Where do you find the part where both parents have to be born here? Is that solely coming from the interpretation of "natural born citizen"? |
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User ID: 1374820 United States05/08/2011 03:18 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Where do you find the part where both parents have to be born here? Quoting: MadiganIs that solely coming from the interpretation of "natural born citizen"? This explaination is the best I have seen. It really does show what the founding fathers wanted and intended. IT is well worth the time to watch it. Clears alot of misunderstandings up. Truth Is God's Daughter - Spanish Proverb. "Silence Is Treason" Geert Wilders |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1348982 United States05/09/2011 05:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The issues of citizenship and immigration have become major topics in the past months, with President Barack Obama releasing his "long-form" birth certificate April 27 to quell questions about where he was born. And there is a growing movement in America, led by, among others, Sen. David Vitter, R-La., to change those rules and restrict birthright citizenship. Quoting: Madigan"My bill limits birthright citizenship to individuals born in the United States with at least one parent who is a legal citizen, a green card holder or an active member of the U.S. armed forces," said Vitter in introducing his legislation on the Senate floor last month. Were it to become law, Vitter's bill would not be retroactive, and even if it were, or if it had been the law when Jindal was born, the future governor would have been eligible for birthright citizenship because his parents had green cards, giving them the status of permanent legal residents. ..."This is what is called in politics a 'dog whistle,'" The Advocate of Baton Rouge wrote in an editorial. "While there is no reason for the Louisiana Legislature to pass a birther bill, the pledge to sign the bill is a signal to the lunatic fringe that Jindal is sympathetic to them." The editorial concluded with the line: "Piyush Amrit Jindal is the last man in America who should give his blessing to a birther bill." Timothy Teepell, the governor's chief of staff, responded with a scathing letter to the editor. Read the rest at... [link to www.nola.com] That is BULLSHIT!!!! Two legal residents with green cards cannot produce a natural born US citizen. The parents have to be citizens, either native or naturalized. Jindal does NOT qualify as NATURAL BORN!!!!! They are trying to change the definition of "natural born citizen" and the GOP establishment hacks are in on it. |
