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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1504528 United Kingdom 09/20/2011 06:15 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to au.tv.yahoo.com] Quoting: 13.0.0.0.0 Followers of a man who says he’s Jesus are buying up land around Kingaroy, about 220km north west of Brisbane. “Jesus”, whose real name is Alan John Miller, and his partner “Mary” are operating a property in rural Wilkesdale, near Kingaroy for the group they lead known as Divine Truth. Together with the finances of their, Alan and Mary purchased a $400,000, 240-hectare property. So far, the property is home to the group's weekly meetings and there are plans to build a centre for international visitors From the air, the group's site appears to have been cleared in the shape of an enormous cruicifix. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1278809 Netherlands 09/20/2011 06:17 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I actually know a fair bit about these people. I have a relative in the cult. Quoting: nexuseditor Naturally I was curious as to what attracted them, so I decided to check Mr Miller out a bit. What I found out was this: - Mr Miller was raised a Jehovah's Witness and split with them - he had some sort of relevation which made him decide he was Jesus - they totally reject reincarnation and anything psychic or paranormal - to them it is all evil entities planting false mental and emotional stuff to keep people distracted - they are right into yelling and screaming and hitting pillows and cushions as some sort of primal-gestalt-rebirthing therapy (although they don't call it that) - Mr Miller's beliefs are a mish-mash of HIS version of the bible (bearing in mind he thinks he WAS Jesus, so he feels quite justified in correcting and changing parts of 'what really happened') - and a mish-mash of the works of James Padgett ( [link to new-birth.net] - I definitely do NOT believe they are a suicidal cult whatsoever - but they do believe that massive earth changes are just around the corner. - There is zero financial compulsion, and zero compulsory rituals (so far) - There is NO demands to cut-off from family, although many end up doing so voluntarily (I mean how many people are going to accept their kids/parents/brothers etc following some guy who says he's Jesus?) - there are NO miracles that I've heard him claiming, so it is a belief in his teachings that they follow, not so much him. The trash and tabloid Aussie media spent a lot of time looking for anything they could get their teeth into to get sensationalism out of the story, but what you see on that clip is the best they could do, so they dropped it. Even repeated calls for anyone with 'dirt' on Mr Miller to come forward produced nothing. In conclusion: I see them as harmless and deluded - but they are honest, hardworking and clean living folk who mind their own business and help neighbours out when needed. Shrugs How can you call someone that say's he's Jesus honest? Don't be deluded by nice words, i checked his teachings and they are somewhat about love, but the love for God is not the no1 teaching, so that should debunk the teaching. Jesus would come back the way he went, he didn't leave us through birth, so anyone that's born disqualifies for being him. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1557750 Australia 09/20/2011 06:21 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | LOL.. Good on him. He is just doing what all religions are doing.. Making money and brainwashing minds..Unless he goes and slaughters millions then he will not get close to being a real religion.. But good luck to him.. Hopefully no one comes to harm with his doing. |
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Rick User ID: 1384099 Singapore 09/20/2011 06:35 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Well this guy is not to far from me, I am thinking about making another youtube channel, just to get a chance to speak to this guy, And I can tell you within 1 minute actually a lot less than that, if he is who he says he is. But just by looking into his eyes on the video, I can tell you now he is not. But cameras can sometimes hide the subconscious mind. so it would be best if I meet him personally. I will let you know if he decides to meet up or chickens out ;) I really only need to ask him one question, so I will do that first :) Take care Rick |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1549393 United States 09/20/2011 06:51 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Hmmm... I saw the program(what a creeepy dude!!) & if he does refute reincarnation, like Nex says, I'm sure he says he's the REINCARNATION of Jesus(I may have heard wrong). Which is at total 90 degrees to what the Christian belief of resurrection stands for. Reminds me of a psychiatrist(or psychologist?) that told me a story about three Loonies in a loony bin, who all thought they were Jesus. When quizzed about the other two Jesuses, they each replied "oh well they're just crazy!!" ps I'd pretend to be Jesus to bang that bitch of his, shes nice!! |
Rick User ID: 1384099 Singapore 09/20/2011 07:06 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Hi, Quoting: Rick 1384099 Well this guy is not to far from me, I am thinking about making another youtube channel, just to get a chance to speak to this guy, And I can tell you within 1 minute actually a lot less than that, if he is who he says he is. But just by looking into his eyes on the video, I can tell you now he is not. But cameras can sometimes hide the subconscious mind. so it would be best if I meet him personally. I will let you know if he decides to meet up or chickens out ;) I really only need to ask him one question, so I will do that first :) Take care Rick Well I have found his email address, and sent him a message, and asked him my question, If he replies I will let you know what the question was that I ask him, and if he got it correct. Have a good night Rick |
Pharista User ID: 1545009 09/20/2011 07:27 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Hi, Quoting: Rick 1384099 Well this guy is not to far from me, I am thinking about making another youtube channel, just to get a chance to speak to this guy, And I can tell you within 1 minute actually a lot less than that, if he is who he says he is. But just by looking into his eyes on the video, I can tell you now he is not. But cameras can sometimes hide the subconscious mind. so it would be best if I meet him personally. I will let you know if he decides to meet up or chickens out ;) I really only need to ask him one question, so I will do that first :) Take care Rick Well I have found his email address, and sent him a message, and asked him my question, If he replies I will let you know what the question was that I ask him, and if he got it correct. Have a good night Rick Hope you get to meet up with him. Will you share the question you have asked? In the second video his explanation of the material body, subtle/spirit body and the attributes of the non-physical soul (the real I) is pretty much in line with what I have found to be my own truth which I have been aware of and kept in practice for 23 years. I wasn't so keen on his ideas of each individual only being half a soul - I am guessing his explanation for that (not shown on vid) would be that you have a twin soul - the two making male and female on earth and joining as one in spirit. My own experience has been of having the potential of becoming a complete being with both male and female attributes. If he is teaching spiritual truths then fair play to him, whether he is a reincarnation of the Jesus talked of in the Bible then that remains to be seen. If these are end times then I guess reincarnations of Budda, Mohammed, Abraham and all the Indigenous tribal leaders & Shamans should be appearing in town down under soon |
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User ID: 1552691 Greece 09/20/2011 08:09 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There was something about him on "Sunday Night" last night. I only caught part of it but he seemed to be claiming to have been alive for a couple of centuries. What's with that? Sounded like he'd been watching too much Torchwood. Quoting: Satya he was purporting reincarnation...... The same thing they re rejecting.... a free man chooses, a slave obeys |
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User ID: 1545009 09/20/2011 09:57 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Bumping for Jesus and all reincarnated prophets Last Edited by Pharista on 09/20/2011 09:57 AM 100 personality disordered behaviours [link to www.outofthefog.net] Taking back self control from disordered energy thieves [link to www.outofthefog.net] How to spot a psychopath [link to aftermath-surviving-psychopathy.org] A brief introduction to 'The Shadow' [link to home.earthlink.net] Hunting for Power, Toltec Wisdom for Spiritual Warriors [link to 209.85.122.83] Message from the Kogi [link to www.alunathemovie.com] Thread: Spiritual Preparedness - simple practices and meditations to increase self-awareness Thread: The Wetiko Disease - a psychological parasite Thread: Breaking the chains of the past - facing & healing toxic conditioning & false belief systems Support for parents of bullied children - [link to epicinschools.spam] ~ "You never change things by fighting the existing reality. To change something, build a new model that makes the existing obsolete." ~ Buckminster Fuller |
Rick User ID: 1384099 Singapore 09/20/2011 08:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Hi, Quoting: Rick 1384099 Well this guy is not to far from me, I am thinking about making another youtube channel, just to get a chance to speak to this guy, And I can tell you within 1 minute actually a lot less than that, if he is who he says he is. But just by looking into his eyes on the video, I can tell you now he is not. But cameras can sometimes hide the subconscious mind. so it would be best if I meet him personally. I will let you know if he decides to meet up or chickens out ;) I really only need to ask him one question, so I will do that first :) Take care Rick Well I have found his email address, and sent him a message, and asked him my question, If he replies I will let you know what the question was that I ask him, and if he got it correct. Have a good night Rick Hope you get to meet up with him. Will you share the question you have asked? In the second video his explanation of the material body, subtle/spirit body and the attributes of the non-physical soul (the real I) is pretty much in line with what I have found to be my own truth which I have been aware of and kept in practice for 23 years. I wasn't so keen on his ideas of each individual only being half a soul - I am guessing his explanation for that (not shown on vid) would be that you have a twin soul - the two making male and female on earth and joining as one in spirit. My own experience has been of having the potential of becoming a complete being with both male and female attributes. If he is teaching spiritual truths then fair play to him, whether he is a reincarnation of the Jesus talked of in the Bible then that remains to be seen. If these are end times then I guess reincarnations of Budda, Mohammed, Abraham and all the Indigenous tribal leaders & Shamans should be appearing in town down under soon Hello again, Well he replied and failed, Sorry to disappoint those who believe in him, but just another false profit. It is a shame so many people will get the gullible minded to follow. Here is the question if you wish to know: There is one thing that every person CAN DO, to make the world a better place if not perfect, what would it be? The answer is within my book, in case you wish to know; [link to mayanmajix.com] This was his reply : "Hi Rick, I'm not interested in people testing me all the time. Its an unloving beginning of any relationship. There is plenty of material on youtube for you to view to know better about what we teach, what we value, and even how we would answer that question. Cheers for now," " Basically the normal response from most religious people, some just don't know. But he forgot to realize that life is one big test, and always has been, but he doesn't like to be tested? So he is just expecting people to believe him no matter what, and that is deception. By quoting everything Jesus has said, does not make one Jesus. If people only look inside them selves, everyone would know they have a piece of Jesus in all of us, and that is the child like mind, followed with wisdom ;) My Motto, "believe what every you wish to believe, because this is what keeps one strong" Take good care Namaste Rick P.s. Woops sorry mods, I did not know about posting his name, please forgive me ;) |
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User ID: 1553634 Australia 09/22/2011 05:11 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Oh listen, people for some reason or other have to believe in these deluded self proclaimed Messiahs..why would Jesus move to Kingaroy in Australia..its peanut country cant but notice the pun there with the nuts part..honestly ...if people were not so lonely or lost or deluded by this guys subtle and obvious brain washing techniques then there would be no cult. I for one watched his interview on television and all the hallmarks of a deluded and very dangerous man are obvious, if people would look at Waco and other cults over the years the cult leaders all have the same dialogue..separate people from family and friends and their money then gather the disciples, then cordon them off from the real world and tell them the end is nigh.. the outcome is inevitable..doomsday prophecies and suicides. I cant understand why people just blindly choose to believe in this man and leave their partners and families to follow a man who is so obviously not Jesus..omg..if Jesus came back would he really come to Kingaroy? and speak English? Wouldnt his arrival be heralded in some incredibly undeniable way? Its obvious he targets those searching for answers or those who see no purpose to their lives but to be lead by the nose down a path of destruction..take heed now and walk away while you can. Quoting: Amaya7 1660757 hallmark of most modern messiahs and the leading of the lost and gullible.... well said... It's life as we know it, but only just. [link to citizenperth.wordpress.com] sic ut vos es vos should exsisto , denego alius vicis facio vos change , exsisto youself , proprie |
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User ID: 1553634 Australia 09/22/2011 05:44 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Moved to KINGaroy for a reason.. Didn't you see the cross on hos property from google earth.. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1660508 Its jesus I tell ya.. yeah, Jesus! why did you move to Kingaroy.... LOL.... It's life as we know it, but only just. [link to citizenperth.wordpress.com] sic ut vos es vos should exsisto , denego alius vicis facio vos change , exsisto youself , proprie |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 2728276 New Zealand 10/05/2011 07:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | re the Messiah - one way to falsify the Jesus claim is by checking his messages to see if they have the "Heptadic" structure that the Bible and prophets have. For more see - [link to www.breadoflifebiblestudy.com] and [link to www.bereanpublishers.com] The other is can he raise the dead, since he claims to be Jesus he must also be "the resurrection and the life". (John 11:25) |
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