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The First Casualty of War (Warning: graphic)

 
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there will always be war as long as man exists. Utopia
will never be achieved. Myself, I will never be nieve
enough to believe that war will stop. It is horrible
that people have to die for needless gains but it is
the way it will always be.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1398064


Yes good point. All soldiers are paid killers. Always have been and always will be. I'd like to make sure that ours are the best. Because there will always be aggressors like Gingus Khan just waiting for a resource rich nation to lower its sword first. As long as there are humans, there will be a need for trained soldiers.

For instance, Chamberlain had your sentiment and it took Churchill so many years to right the world after so many people had died needlessly. Wishing we can all get along doesn't make it so. Sometimes it takes the threat of war to stave it off. Sometimes it takes killing all of the aggressors, including their children to give the next generation the opportunity to have a lasting peace. Freedon isn't free. And that's not just a cliche.

I'd bet that most if not all peace-nicks eat some form of animal; steak, burger, eggs, jello (yes jello) but have no idea how it makes its way to their plate. These are the same people that hold candles and sing hymms hoping the violence will stop. For one week, I'd like to have open season on criminals. Shoot them on sight. Then we'd have a century of peace. Instead we warehouse them with cable tv, 3 great meals and sex change operations. Argh! When will we get back to eye for and eye justice.

Dreaming of peace is for children. War is a fact of life. Let the adults do their job.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1394554


But most wars have been started illegally by lies and criminal acts of elitist governments who covert and want to colonise other countries and there resources, there is no real development when leaders do this... they too should be equally judged and shot like street crim's. There is no truth , glory or winner in war..just a continuum of fear, hate and reprisal. Funnily street gangs show that distructive pointless cycle better than anything...and you say shoot em all..so does that now apply to your bigger global picture of illegal conflict?
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So when truely evil groups decide that they want your women and children as their sex slaves, we lay down our arms and say "come on down, the price is right!"

They are truely evil groups of people. They must be stopped or there will be no peace, there will be no freedom from slavery. You too can be North Korea. To the camps with you.

Hyper-idealistic, utopia will ALWAYS be only a dream. Grow up and join reality.
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So when truely evil groups decide that they want your women and children as their sex slaves, we lay down our arms and say "come on down, the price is right!"
 Quoting: tkwasny


Who said people should not be allowed to defend themselves?

Maybe you should understand what is being said before making a comment that has no relevance to the thread.

Your twisted 'utopia' seems to be that a peaceful and good world will come about by slaughtering a whole bunch of people who have never done anything to you.
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OP is a delusional douche, unicorn glitter spreading, group hug loving,drum circle enthusiast,naive fuckstick. Why don't you put on your Birkenstocks jump in your Prius and drive to Canada and seek citizenship there? They have unfortunately gone the peacenik PC Care Bear route in the last 30 years so they'll welcome your ass. Scouts out!
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try prozac, dude.
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You know it sounds to me that he is suffering from having actually been there as a soldier and questioning in retrospect that actions of things that could not have been prevented.

Sometimes "rolling hand grenades into children's rooms" is unpreventable. Civilian casualties are a fact of war.

You simply have to move on with life. Focus is a choice. We can focus on negative events in our life that we couldn't prevent, or we can focus on the good aspects of life. A beer. Sailing, kayaking, whatever. Or focus on the fact that children in war zones wind up dead. Illegal killing and accidental killings in combat are NOT the same thing. One is a premeditated act, and the other is an unplanned accident for which we are not accountable.

"Your focus determines your reality"

Qui-Gon Jihn, Star Wars
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if it was your children in the room with the hand grenade you would think completely different would you not?
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You know it sounds to me that he is suffering from having actually been there as a soldier and questioning in retrospect that actions of things that could not have been prevented.

Sometimes "rolling hand grenades into children's rooms" is unpreventable. Civilian casualties are a fact of war.

You simply have to move on with life. Focus is a choice. We can focus on negative events in our life that we couldn't prevent, or we can focus on the good aspects of life. A beer. Sailing, kayaking, whatever. Or focus on the fact that children in war zones wind up dead. Illegal killing and accidental killings in combat are NOT the same thing. One is a premeditated act, and the other is an unplanned accident for which we are not accountable.

"Your focus determines your reality"

Qui-Gon Jihn, Star Wars
 Quoting: Abaddon


if it was your children in the room with the hand grenade you would think completely different would you not?
 Quoting: uk 1407182


your focus is determined for you if you are a solider or have been. reality is independent from our thoughts, feeling wants, wishes or whims.

obviously they have done a very good job on you.....
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So when truely evil groups decide that they want your women and children as their sex slaves, we lay down our arms and say "come on down, the price is right!"
 Quoting: tkwasny


Who said people should not be allowed to defend themselves?

Maybe you should understand what is being said before making a comment that has no relevance to the thread.

Your twisted 'utopia' seems to be that a peaceful and good world will come about by slaughtering a whole bunch of people who have never done anything to you.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1407127


Sometime it is best to take the fight to THEIR SOIL, and yes, their women and children will die. Either that or it happens on OUR SOIL, and OUR women and children will die.

Both suck horrid. I never advocated slaughtering, BTW. Just surgical take-out of those that have already made up their minds to turn my woman and children into slaves. There will be colateral damage and death. We try to use our technology to keep it to a minimum.

Life is always a lesser of evils. I did watch the entire video and head-in-the-clouds utopia is the vision that serves as the foundation for the premise. Grow up.

Last Edited by tkwasny on 05/30/2011 12:54 PM
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So when truely evil groups decide that they want your women and children as their sex slaves, we lay down our arms and say "come on down, the price is right!"
 Quoting: tkwasny


Who said people should not be allowed to defend themselves?

Maybe you should understand what is being said before making a comment that has no relevance to the thread.

Your twisted 'utopia' seems to be that a peaceful and good world will come about by slaughtering a whole bunch of people who have never done anything to you.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1407127


Sometime it is best to take the fight to THEIR SOIL, and yes, their women and children will die. Either that or it happens on OUR SOIL, and OUR women and children will die.
 Quoting: tkwasny


You are the aggressor, not only against them but against 'Americans' too. You support using violence against Americans who do not want to fund your murder spree.

You think your support of violence against people in the U.S. is freedom?

The people in the U.S. have become much less free since your slaughters began.

I did watch the entire video and head-in-the-clouds utopia is the vision that serves as the foundation for the premise. Grow up.
 Quoting: tkwasny


Again, it is your twisted utopian vision that supporting violence and tyranny against people in the U.S. and abroad is going to bring peace and a better life, despite the fact that you can see for yourself that throughout all of these years it has been doing the exact opposite.

You must have your head in the highest clouds to not be able to see this obvious flaw of your utopia.
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