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Breaking News: Subpoena Issued for Loretta Fuddy, Director of Hawaii Department of Health; Must Show Original 1961 Typewritten Birth Certificate

 
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Tuesday, May 24, 2011

Subpoena Issued for Loretta Fuddy, Director of Hawaii Department of Health; Must Show Original 1961 Typewritten Birth Certificate For Obama

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Breaking News: Attorney Orly Taitz is reporting a subpoena was issued for Loretta Fuddy, the Director of Hawaii Health Department. The purported subpoena embedded below states Health Director Fuddy is to bring for inspection the original 1961 typewritten birth certificate for Barack Hussein Obama, II, on June 27th, 2011 at 10 am.

(I Don't see WHO issued the subpoena, so caution needed here till more known.)

See link to view the Subpoena.
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Link to full-size subpoena. Issued by Orly Taitz. (See her sig at the bottom as Issuing Officer)

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A scroll down shows a subpoena by the United States District Court....could it be?

Is this the breakthrough we have all been waiting for?

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A scroll down shows a subpoena by the United States District Court....could it be?

Is this the breakthrough we have all been waiting for?
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NOOOOO
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Orly Farrah and Corsi will be seen in ten years as New American Patriots.
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A scroll down shows a subpoena by the United States District Court....could it be?

Is this the breakthrough we have all been waiting for?
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That's what I've been trying to figure out on Girl Genius' thread. It's issued by the USDC, but the issuing officer is Taitz. So, does the order carry the weight of the District Court? Will there be contempt charges if Fuddy refuses to respond?
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A scroll down shows a subpoena by the United States District Court....could it be?

Is this the breakthrough we have all been waiting for?
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NOOOOO
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maybe some dumbasses woke up after his statements about Israel.
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Watch Craigslist for ads seeking old typewriters...
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A scroll down shows a subpoena by the United States District Court....could it be?

Is this the breakthrough we have all been waiting for?
 Quoting: Say_It_Loud


That's what I've been trying to figure out on Girl Genius' thread. It's issued by the USDC, but the issuing officer is Taitz. So, does the order carry the weight of the District Court? Will there be contempt charges if Fuddy refuses to respond?
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There's a game they can play, and eventually a judge will have to compel production if the state of Hawaii doesn't want to produce.
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Maybe it just means the contributory phase of BO is done and now it's time for "Phase II", requiring new leadership. Nothing is random, and sometimes when you think you won, you really lost.
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FOUND THIS COMMENT ON ORIGINAL SITE.


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Hang on folks. A lawyer is saying this:

1. Subpoenas in a civil matter are issued by a party. This is something she generated 100% on her own. The only signature on that subpoena is Taitz. Not a judge.

2. Fuddy isn't "court ordered" to do anything. Again, it's Taitz issuing the subpoena, not the court.

3. Taitz made the address of the deposition Fuddy's office. Someone cannot appear, or bring records, to the address at which they are served a subpoena. This makes the subpoena in essence a nullity.

4. Fuddy and the DOH can ignore the subpoena. But, if they do file a motion to quash, it will absolutely most likely be granted.


Can we have another lawyer chime in and verify this. I don't see a judges signature or a ADA. I hope this subpoena can be enforced and how did Taitz get her hands on a DC Subpoena?

May 24, 2011 12:05 PM
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Hang on folks. A lawyer is saying this:

1. Subpoenas in a civil matter are issued by a party. This is something she generated 100% on her own. The only signature on that subpoena is Taitz. Not a judge.

2. Fuddy isn't "court ordered" to do anything. Again, it's Taitz issuing the subpoena, not the court.

3. Taitz made the address of the deposition Fuddy's office. Someone cannot appear, or bring records, to the address at which they are served a subpoena. This makes the subpoena in essence a nullity.

4. Fuddy and the DOH can ignore the subpoena. But, if they do file a motion to quash, it will absolutely most likely be granted.


Can we have another lawyer chime in and verify this. I don't see a judges signature or a ADA. I hope this subpoena can be enforced and how did Taitz get her hands on a DC Subpoena?

May 24, 2011 12:05 PM
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Yep. There'a always some legal bullshit reason we can't just see the real deal, and have some pros inspect it.
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FOUND THIS COMMENT ON ORIGINAL SITE.


[link to obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com]

Hang on folks. A lawyer is saying this:

1. Subpoenas in a civil matter are issued by a party. This is something she generated 100% on her own. The only signature on that subpoena is Taitz. Not a judge.

2. Fuddy isn't "court ordered" to do anything. Again, it's Taitz issuing the subpoena, not the court.

3. Taitz made the address of the deposition Fuddy's office. Someone cannot appear, or bring records, to the address at which they are served a subpoena. This makes the subpoena in essence a nullity.

4. Fuddy and the DOH can ignore the subpoena. But, if they do file a motion to quash, it will absolutely most likely be granted.


Can we have another lawyer chime in and verify this. I don't see a judges signature or a ADA. I hope this subpoena can be enforced and how did Taitz get her hands on a DC Subpoena?

May 24, 2011 12:05 PM
 Quoting: Say_It_Loud


You don't need a judge to sign a subpoena. If they do not respond, Taitz can file a motion to compel. If the motion is granted, the judge signs an order compelling production. Not sure if they can appeal that decision.
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Not this shit again!

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You don't need a judge to sign a subpoena. If they do not respond, Taitz can file a motion to compel. If the motion is granted, the judge signs an order compelling production. Not sure if they can appeal that decision.
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I'll believe it when I see it. We've had way too many of these cases dismissed for standing for it to be that simple.
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Not this shit again!

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The title of the thread is quite clear to the content. It was your decision to click on it and participate. Why would you waste your time, if you are so convinced there is nothing of value here?
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You don't need a judge to sign a subpoena. If they do not respond, Taitz can file a motion to compel. If the motion is granted, the judge signs an order compelling production. Not sure if they can appeal that decision.
 Quoting: New Age Messiah


I'll believe it when I see it. We've had way too many of these cases dismissed for standing for it to be that simple.
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I don't allow myself to get too excited. I don't hold my breath. We have been burned too many times. So, I am just taking a watch and see position and hoping just a little.
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You don't need a judge to sign a subpoena. If they do not respond, Taitz can file a motion to compel. If the motion is granted, the judge signs an order compelling production. Not sure if they can appeal that decision.
 Quoting: New Age Messiah


I'll believe it when I see it. We've had way too many of these cases dismissed for standing for it to be that simple.
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Discovery powers are sweeping, assuming Taitz has filed a proper complaint, rules are rules.

How and why the defendants might get the case dismissed before discovery starts is the question.

Releasing the certified "copy" has opened some legal doors to seeing the original, I think.

But, the way the system works, and given that Obama has unlimited funds for lawyers, they could fight the subpoena for quite a while, and maybe quash it, but I doubt it.

Their only hope to avoid producing the original is to get the case thrown out.
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You are correct Say It and New Age.

She’s a lawyer prosecuting in her own behalf and as such is an officer of the court.

Federal Rules of Civil Procedure

Rule 45. Subpoena

(3) Issued by Whom.

The clerk must issue a subpoena, signed but otherwise in blank, to a party who requests it. That party must complete it before service. An attorney also may issue and sign a subpoena as an officer of:

(A) a court in which the attorney is authorized to practice; or

(B) a court for a district where a deposition is to be taken or production is to be made, if the attorney is authorized to practice in the court where the action is pending.
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You don't need a judge to sign a subpoena. If they do not respond, Taitz can file a motion to compel. If the motion is granted, the judge signs an order compelling production. Not sure if they can appeal that decision.
 Quoting: New Age Messiah


I'll believe it when I see it. We've had way too many of these cases dismissed for standing for it to be that simple.
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Discovery powers are sweeping, assuming Taitz has filed a proper complaint, rules are rules.

How and why the defendants might get the case dismissed before discovery starts is the question.

Releasing the certified "copy" has opened some legal doors to seeing the original, I think.

But, the way the system works, and given that Obama has unlimited funds for lawyers, they could fight the subpoena for quite a while, and maybe quash it, but I doubt it.

Their only hope to avoid producing the original is to get the case thrown out.
 Quoting: New Age Messiah


If the past three years are any guide, that's exactly what will happen. Check it out. This same judge dismissed one of Taitz' cases last year.

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"This is one of several such suits filed by Ms. Taitz in her quixotic attempt to prove that President Obama is not a natural born citizen as required by [the] Constitution," Lamberth wrote in a decision published on Wednesday. "This Court is not willing to go tilting at windmills with her."

Lamberth wrote that only the U.S. attorney general or a U.S. Attorney's Office can ask a court to file a writ of quo warranto, which according to Black's Law Dictionary is a "common-law writ used to inquire the authority by which a public office is held."

Lamberth dismissed a slew of other counts in which Taitz alleged violations of the False Claims Act, the Freedom of Information Act, and the Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations Act. He also rejected her argument that the recently passed health care reform act was unconstitutional because, having failed to prove he was a natural born citizen, Obama did not have the authority to sign the bill into law. Lamberth pointed out that at the time she amended her complaint to include that claim, Obama had not actually signed the bill.

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Another frivolous lawsuit.

Afterbirthers are nothing but a joke.
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Link to full-size subpoena. Issued by Orly Taitz. (See her sig at the bottom as Issuing Officer)

[link to www.scribd.com]
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makes no difference
that means a lawyer has issued it
THEY HAVE TO COMPLY
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Link to full-size subpoena. Issued by Orly Taitz. (See her sig at the bottom as Issuing Officer)

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makes no difference
that means a lawyer has issued it
THEY HAVE TO COMPLY
THE COURT ORDERS IT

ORLY CANT JUST AUTHORISE THEM HERSELF YOU KNOW

THE COURT ORDERS IT
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A subpoena ( ) is a writ by a government agency, most often a court, that has authority to compel testimony by a witness or production of evidence under a penalty for failure

2 types

1. subpoena ad testificandum orders a person to testify before the ordering authority or face punishment. The subpoena can also request the testimony to be given by phone or in person.

TYPE 2 IS THIS CASE I EPEXCT

2. subpoena duces tecum orders a person or organization to bring physical evidence before the ordering authority or face punishment. This is often used for requests to mail copies of documents to requesting party or directly to court.

ALSO ITS BINDING BY THE AUTHORITY OF THE COURT


Subpoena process

Subpoenas are usually issued by the clerk of the court (see below) in the name of the judge presiding over the case. Additionally, court rules may permit lawyers to issue subpoenas themselves in their capacity as officers of the court. Typically subpoenas are issued "in blank" and it is the responsibility of the lawyer representing the plaintiff or defendant on whose behalf the testimony is to be given to serve the subpoena on the witness.

The subpoena will usually be on the letterhead of the court where the case is filed, name the parties to the case, and be addressed by name to the person whose testimony is being sought. It will contain the language "You are hereby commanded to report in person to the clerk of this court" or similar, describing the specific location, scheduled date and time of the appearance. Some issuing jurisdictions include an admonishment advising the subject of the criminal penalty for failure to comply with a subpoena, and reminding him or her not to leave the court facilities until excused by a competent authority. In some situations the person is paid.

Pro se litigants who represent themselves, unlike lawyers, must ask a court clerk to officially issue them subpoena forms when they need to call witnesses by phone or in person, or when they need to officially request documents to be sent to them and/or directly to court[4]


(any documents that have not been subpoenaed to court or verified by a witness can be dismissed by the opposite party as hearsay).

[link to en.wikipedia.org]
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Subpoenas are usually issued by the clerk of the court (see below) in the name of the judge presiding over the case. Additionally, court rules may permit lawyers to issue subpoenas themselves in their capacity as officers of the court. Typically subpoenas are issued "in blank" and it is the responsibility of the lawyer representing the plaintiff or defendant on whose behalf the testimony is to be given to serve the subpoena on the witness.
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yeah good luck with that...I just know everything is gonna work out great for you birthers and you'll never look back and think tyou wasted 8 years of your life bitching about a birth certificate...hey I gotta crazy idea why don't one of y'all fly to Kenya, get some PROOF that Obama was born there? anybody? anybody?
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yeah good luck with that...I just know everything is gonna work out great for you birthers and you'll never look back and think tyou wasted 8 years of your life bitching about a birth certificate...hey I gotta crazy idea why don't one of y'all fly to Kenya, get some PROOF that Obama was born there? anybody? anybody?
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You are such a jackass for not even CARING about getting to the truth.

And what about the Connecticut Social Security number ?

I guess that doesn't bother you either.
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It's bullshit, there's NO filing number on the document. Didn't anyone notice that? It does state who etc... but NO filing number. Either it has not been filed, or it's fake.
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