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iCarbon Boy®
(OP) User ID: 465270 United States 05/28/2011 11:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What can be proved requires no faith to accept. -------------------------------------------------------------------------- When the eagles are silent the parrots begin to jabber. (Winston Churchill) -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Isaiah 8 12 "You are not to say, ‘ It is a conspiracy!’ In regard to all that this people call a conspiracy, And you are not to fear what they fear or be in dread of it. 13 "It is the Lord of hosts whom you should regard as holy. And He shall be your fear, And He shall be your dread. [link to www.youtube.com] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1398402 United States 05/29/2011 12:11 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | A MUST WATCH VIDEO -In 9 out 10 Costliest insurance events in U.S History, Every one of them very shortly followed dramatic calls by U.S. officials for Israel to make land concessions in bids for peace with its neighbors. - THERE IS AN IRREFUTABLE PATTERN HERE, say many congressmen Zech 2:8 for he who touches you touches the apple of his eye Quoting: iCarbon Boy®Gen 12:3 I will bless those who bless you, and him who dishonors you I will curse, and in you all the families of the earth shall be blessed."t Thanks for this excellent video,op. 5stars/suggest pin |
iCarbon Boy®
(OP) User ID: 465270 United States 05/29/2011 08:27 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | for the morning crew. What can be proved requires no faith to accept. -------------------------------------------------------------------------- When the eagles are silent the parrots begin to jabber. (Winston Churchill) -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Isaiah 8 12 "You are not to say, ‘ It is a conspiracy!’ In regard to all that this people call a conspiracy, And you are not to fear what they fear or be in dread of it. 13 "It is the Lord of hosts whom you should regard as holy. And He shall be your fear, And He shall be your dread. [link to www.youtube.com] |
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User ID: 800577 United States 05/29/2011 10:16 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Apocolypse 13:4 Douay-Rheims Bible And they adored the dragon, which gave power to the beast: and they adored the beast, saying: Who is like to the beast? and who shall be able to fight with him? ====================================== Screw with the global dictatorship and something bad happens. Look at what happened to Poland's leadership one year ago. They stopped the H1N1 vaccine being forced on the people, and also stood up for Christian values. Poland is the only White Christian country with a positive birth rate. They refused to teach EU homosexuality in the schools. Did you know Japan cooperated with Iran in nuclear technology? There is a revenge factor from Israel and the STUXNET and HAARP may have been involved. So who can make war with the false messiah and the false Israel? Nobody except Jesus Christ, and it will be done with Truth. When these maniacs get done destroying 2/3 of the world, then maybe reality will set in. I agree with the OP, if America ever tries to break its partnership with the Devil, there will be hell to pay. |
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iCarbon Boy®
(OP) User ID: 465270 United States 05/29/2011 11:29 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | i read the new testament about like 50 times Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1402771and the old testament a few never in anything i have read does it say "god judges america, a country in the future past the sea monsters" and jesus did not say collecvt guns either America is conspicuous in it's absence from end-times prophecy as a major player on the global scene. I think we will either be destroyed, or insignificant as a world power. The latter is what I feel like we are moving towards swiftly. Only time will tell. What can be proved requires no faith to accept. -------------------------------------------------------------------------- When the eagles are silent the parrots begin to jabber. (Winston Churchill) -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Isaiah 8 12 "You are not to say, ‘ It is a conspiracy!’ In regard to all that this people call a conspiracy, And you are not to fear what they fear or be in dread of it. 13 "It is the Lord of hosts whom you should regard as holy. And He shall be your fear, And He shall be your dread. [link to www.youtube.com] |
iCarbon Boy®
(OP) User ID: 465270 United States 05/29/2011 11:39 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If my people who are called by my name will humble themselves, pray, seek my face and turn from their wicked ways I will hear them from heaven and heal their land 2 Chronicles 7:14 Followers of Christ have a opportunity to repent. What can be proved requires no faith to accept. -------------------------------------------------------------------------- When the eagles are silent the parrots begin to jabber. (Winston Churchill) -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Isaiah 8 12 "You are not to say, ‘ It is a conspiracy!’ In regard to all that this people call a conspiracy, And you are not to fear what they fear or be in dread of it. 13 "It is the Lord of hosts whom you should regard as holy. And He shall be your fear, And He shall be your dread. [link to www.youtube.com] |
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User ID: 800577 United States 05/29/2011 11:50 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | i read the new testament about like 50 times Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1402771and the old testament a few never in anything i have read does it say "god judges america, a country in the future past the sea monsters" and jesus did not say collecvt guns either America is conspicuous in it's absence from end-times prophecy as a major player on the global scene. I think we will either be destroyed, or insignificant as a world power. The latter is what I feel like we are moving towards swiftly. Only time will tell. =================================== Absent because of false preachers of the great apostasy. The Roman Catholic world became a spiritual dictatorship in 1870, and in 1917, started preaching the false gospel of Fatima. Spellbound Catholics started looking at "Russia spreading its errors" , while completely missing the creation of Hollywood in 1913. THe world culture has been transformed by the antigospel of Hollywood, not communists from Russia. On the Protestant Side you have "Christian" Zionists. Add the two together and you get the big fail of Luke 18:8. The reason people don't see it is that the whole world is deceived. |
iCarbon Boy®
(OP) User ID: 465270 United States 05/29/2011 11:51 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 5 stars, very good one. Quoting: RRaymonDDThanks What can be proved requires no faith to accept. -------------------------------------------------------------------------- When the eagles are silent the parrots begin to jabber. (Winston Churchill) -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Isaiah 8 12 "You are not to say, ‘ It is a conspiracy!’ In regard to all that this people call a conspiracy, And you are not to fear what they fear or be in dread of it. 13 "It is the Lord of hosts whom you should regard as holy. And He shall be your fear, And He shall be your dread. [link to www.youtube.com] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1405662 United States 05/29/2011 11:56 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Zech 2:8 for he who touches you touches the apple of his eye Quoting: iCarbon Boy®Gen 12:3 I will bless those who bless you, and him who dishonors you I will curse, and in you all the families of the earth shall be blessed."t well I don't know where this thread is going, for your quote makes no sense against the title of your thread, but God isn't judging American, Planet Earth, Nature is. |
iCarbon Boy®
(OP) User ID: 465270 United States 05/29/2011 12:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | well I don't know where this thread is going....... Quoting: Nobody in ParticularIt's ok Nobody, I still love you. What can be proved requires no faith to accept. -------------------------------------------------------------------------- When the eagles are silent the parrots begin to jabber. (Winston Churchill) -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Isaiah 8 12 "You are not to say, ‘ It is a conspiracy!’ In regard to all that this people call a conspiracy, And you are not to fear what they fear or be in dread of it. 13 "It is the Lord of hosts whom you should regard as holy. And He shall be your fear, And He shall be your dread. [link to www.youtube.com] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1370012 United States 05/29/2011 12:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | THE USA IS MODERN DAY BABYLON Spiritually (sod/deeper meaning), the USA is the land of Babylon. The word Babylon means "confusion" (Genesis [Bereishit] 11:9). Babylon is a generic term in the Bible that refers to the ways of the adversary (HaSatan) and his kingdom of darkness. The Bible talks about a financial Babylon, a political Babylon, a religious Babylon and a land of Babylon. Literally (Peshat), the modern land of Babylon is the area of Iran and Iraq. However, today, very few members of the house of Judah (Judaism) and the house of Israel (Christianity) live in Iran and Iraq. Therefore, there must also be a spiritual (sod/deeper meaning) land of Babylon. Today, the USA is the spiritual land of Babylon. The prophets of Israel had much to say about the judgment of the land of Babylon in the end of days. The judgment of the land of Babylon in the end of days is prophesied in Isaiah (Yeshayahu) chapter 13, 21:1-10 and chapter 47, Jeremiah (Yermiyahu) chapters 50 and 51. In the Brit Hadashah (New Testament), the judgment of the land of Babylon in the end of days is spoken about in Revelation 18. Chapter 11, The Judgment of the Nations 1. Babylon is an end-time nation who is judged by the G-d of Israel "in those days and in that time" and in the "day of trouble." This is a reference to the time of Jacob’s trouble or the birth pangs of the Messiah (Chevlai shel Mashiach) (Isaiah 13:8, 13, 21:3, Jeremiah 50:4, 20, 51:2, 43). 2. Babylon is a rich and economically prosperous country (Jeremiah 50:37, 51:13, Revelation 18:3, 19). 3. Babylon is a land of "mixed/mingled people" (Jeremiah 50:37). 4. Babylon is a world military power (Jeremiah 51:53). 5. Babylon is a country that has defeated mighty kingdoms through war (Jeremiah 50:23, 51:20-21). 6. Babylon is a land that sits among many waters (Jeremiah 51:13). 7. Babylon is a country that has a heritage in the G-d of Israel but has sinned and has turned from the G-d of Israel (Jeremiah 50:11, 14, 24, 29, 38, 51:7). 8. The G-d of Israel would have healed the land of Babylon if she would have repented but she will not repent (II Chronicles 7:14, Jeremiah 51:8-9). 9. The good news of Messiah is going forth from the land of Babylon but it will be "cut off" in "the time of harvest" which is the end of the age (Jeremiah 50:16, Matthew 13:39). 10. Babylon is a country that does not believe that it will experience the wrath and judgment of the G-d of Israel (be a widow) (Isaiah 47:5, 7-10, Revelation 18:7-8). 11. The attacking power against Babylon is from the north (Jeremiah 50:3, 9, 26, 41, 51:48). 12. Babylon is destroyed by extremely accurate arrows (missiles) and the attack is devastating (Jeremiah 50:9, 14, 29, 42, 51:3, 11). 13. A fire is kindled in the cities of Babylon from the accurate arrows (missiles) (Jeremiah 50:32, Revelation 18:8). 14. Babylon will be destroyed in the way that Sodom and Gomorrah was destroyed (Isaiah 13:19, Jeremiah 50:40). 15. When Babylon is destroyed, it will never be inhabited again (Isaiah 13:19-20, Jeremiah 50:3, 13, 26, 39-40, 51:2-3, 26, 29, 37, 43, 63-64). 16. The nations of the world tremble and shake in fear at the defeat of Babylon (Jeremiah 50:46, Revelation 18:9-10). 17. The house of Judah (Judaism) and the house of Israel (Christianity) who live in Babylon are called to flee from Babylon and go to the land of Israel (Isaiah 13:14, Jeremiah 50:4-5, 16-19, 28, 33, 51:9, 45, Revelation 18:4). 18. The house of Judah (Judaism) and the house of Israel (Christianity) who live in Babylon and who have escaped the sword (judgment upon the land of Babylon) are called by the G-d of Israel to let Jerusalem come to their mind (Jeremiah 50:4, 51:50). 19. When Babylon is destroyed, the sins of the house of Judah (Judaism) and the house of Israel (Christianity) will be pardoned (the exile will be over and the house of Judah and the house of Israel will be restored) (Jeremiah 50:20). 20) When the house of Judah (Judaism) and the house of Israel (Christianity) flees the land of Babylon and returns to the land of Israel, they will enter into an ETERNAL covenant that will not be forgotten (the Messianic Age/Athid Lavo) (Jeremiah 50:4-5 = Ezekiel 37:26-27). the usa is babylon, only those who flee her judgments will survive THERE WILL NOT BE A PRE_TRIB RAPTURE |
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(OP) User ID: 465270 United States 05/29/2011 12:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | chapter 11 [link to www.waytozion.org] Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1370012THE USA IS MODERN DAY BABYLON Spiritually (sod/deeper meaning), the USA is the land of Babylon. The word Babylon means "confusion" (Genesis [Bereishit] 11:9). Babylon is a generic term in the Bible that refers to the ways of the adversary (HaSatan) and his kingdom of darkness. The Bible talks about a financial Babylon, a political Babylon, a religious Babylon and a land of Babylon. Literally (Peshat), the modern land of Babylon is the area of Iran and Iraq. However, today, very few members of the house of Judah (Judaism) and the house of Israel (Christianity) live in Iran and Iraq. Therefore, there must also be a spiritual (sod/deeper meaning) land of Babylon. Today, the USA is the spiritual land of Babylon. The prophets of Israel had much to say about the judgment of the land of Babylon in the end of days. The judgment of the land of Babylon in the end of days is prophesied in Isaiah (Yeshayahu) chapter 13, 21:1-10 and chapter 47, Jeremiah (Yermiyahu) chapters 50 and 51. In the Brit Hadashah (New Testament), the judgment of the land of Babylon in the end of days is spoken about in Revelation 18. Chapter 11, The Judgment of the Nations 1. Babylon is an end-time nation who is judged by the G-d of Israel "in those days and in that time" and in the "day of trouble." This is a reference to the time of Jacob’s trouble or the birth pangs of the Messiah (Chevlai shel Mashiach) (Isaiah 13:8, 13, 21:3, Jeremiah 50:4, 20, 51:2, 43). 2. Babylon is a rich and economically prosperous country (Jeremiah 50:37, 51:13, Revelation 18:3, 19). 3. Babylon is a land of "mixed/mingled people" (Jeremiah 50:37). 4. Babylon is a world military power (Jeremiah 51:53). 5. Babylon is a country that has defeated mighty kingdoms through war (Jeremiah 50:23, 51:20-21). 6. Babylon is a land that sits among many waters (Jeremiah 51:13). 7. Babylon is a country that has a heritage in the G-d of Israel but has sinned and has turned from the G-d of Israel (Jeremiah 50:11, 14, 24, 29, 38, 51:7). 8. The G-d of Israel would have healed the land of Babylon if she would have repented but she will not repent (II Chronicles 7:14, Jeremiah 51:8-9). 9. The good news of Messiah is going forth from the land of Babylon but it will be "cut off" in "the time of harvest" which is the end of the age (Jeremiah 50:16, Matthew 13:39). 10. Babylon is a country that does not believe that it will experience the wrath and judgment of the G-d of Israel (be a widow) (Isaiah 47:5, 7-10, Revelation 18:7-8). 11. The attacking power against Babylon is from the north (Jeremiah 50:3, 9, 26, 41, 51:48). 12. Babylon is destroyed by extremely accurate arrows (missiles) and the attack is devastating (Jeremiah 50:9, 14, 29, 42, 51:3, 11). 13. A fire is kindled in the cities of Babylon from the accurate arrows (missiles) (Jeremiah 50:32, Revelation 18:8). 14. Babylon will be destroyed in the way that Sodom and Gomorrah was destroyed (Isaiah 13:19, Jeremiah 50:40). 15. When Babylon is destroyed, it will never be inhabited again (Isaiah 13:19-20, Jeremiah 50:3, 13, 26, 39-40, 51:2-3, 26, 29, 37, 43, 63-64). 16. The nations of the world tremble and shake in fear at the defeat of Babylon (Jeremiah 50:46, Revelation 18:9-10). 17. The house of Judah (Judaism) and the house of Israel (Christianity) who live in Babylon are called to flee from Babylon and go to the land of Israel (Isaiah 13:14, Jeremiah 50:4-5, 16-19, 28, 33, 51:9, 45, Revelation 18:4). 18. The house of Judah (Judaism) and the house of Israel (Christianity) who live in Babylon and who have escaped the sword (judgment upon the land of Babylon) are called by the G-d of Israel to let Jerusalem come to their mind (Jeremiah 50:4, 51:50). 19. When Babylon is destroyed, the sins of the house of Judah (Judaism) and the house of Israel (Christianity) will be pardoned (the exile will be over and the house of Judah and the house of Israel will be restored) (Jeremiah 50:20). 20) When the house of Judah (Judaism) and the house of Israel (Christianity) flees the land of Babylon and returns to the land of Israel, they will enter into an ETERNAL covenant that will not be forgotten (the Messianic Age/Athid Lavo) (Jeremiah 50:4-5 = Ezekiel 37:26-27). the usa is babylon, only those who flee her judgments will survive THERE WILL NOT BE A PRE_TRIB RAPTURE I will have to research Ed Chumney, before I say anything in response to this reply, other than thanks for participating. What can be proved requires no faith to accept. -------------------------------------------------------------------------- When the eagles are silent the parrots begin to jabber. (Winston Churchill) -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Isaiah 8 12 "You are not to say, ‘ It is a conspiracy!’ In regard to all that this people call a conspiracy, And you are not to fear what they fear or be in dread of it. 13 "It is the Lord of hosts whom you should regard as holy. And He shall be your fear, And He shall be your dread. [link to www.youtube.com] |
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(OP) User ID: 465270 United States 05/29/2011 12:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | . Quoting: AlasBabylon"jews" are not Israelites, they descendants of edomites who lost a war with Israel around 120BC and were forced to "covert" [bad idea.] Real Israelites are now Christian... so keep that in mind when you read Zech 2:8. . That sounds like replacement theology, am I correct? What can be proved requires no faith to accept. -------------------------------------------------------------------------- When the eagles are silent the parrots begin to jabber. (Winston Churchill) -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Isaiah 8 12 "You are not to say, ‘ It is a conspiracy!’ In regard to all that this people call a conspiracy, And you are not to fear what they fear or be in dread of it. 13 "It is the Lord of hosts whom you should regard as holy. And He shall be your fear, And He shall be your dread. [link to www.youtube.com] |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1370012 United States 05/29/2011 12:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | chapter 11 [link to www.waytozion.org] Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1370012THE USA IS MODERN DAY BABYLON Spiritually (sod/deeper meaning), the USA is the land of Babylon. The word Babylon means "confusion" (Genesis [Bereishit] 11:9). Babylon is a generic term in the Bible that refers to the ways of the adversary (HaSatan) and his kingdom of darkness. The Bible talks about a financial Babylon, a political Babylon, a religious Babylon and a land of Babylon. Literally (Peshat), the modern land of Babylon is the area of Iran and Iraq. However, today, very few members of the house of Judah (Judaism) and the house of Israel (Christianity) live in Iran and Iraq. Therefore, there must also be a spiritual (sod/deeper meaning) land of Babylon. Today, the USA is the spiritual land of Babylon. The prophets of Israel had much to say about the judgment of the land of Babylon in the end of days. The judgment of the land of Babylon in the end of days is prophesied in Isaiah (Yeshayahu) chapter 13, 21:1-10 and chapter 47, Jeremiah (Yermiyahu) chapters 50 and 51. In the Brit Hadashah (New Testament), the judgment of the land of Babylon in the end of days is spoken about in Revelation 18. Chapter 11, The Judgment of the Nations 1. Babylon is an end-time nation who is judged by the G-d of Israel "in those days and in that time" and in the "day of trouble." This is a reference to the time of Jacob’s trouble or the birth pangs of the Messiah (Chevlai shel Mashiach) (Isaiah 13:8, 13, 21:3, Jeremiah 50:4, 20, 51:2, 43). 2. Babylon is a rich and economically prosperous country (Jeremiah 50:37, 51:13, Revelation 18:3, 19). 3. Babylon is a land of "mixed/mingled people" (Jeremiah 50:37). 4. Babylon is a world military power (Jeremiah 51:53). 5. Babylon is a country that has defeated mighty kingdoms through war (Jeremiah 50:23, 51:20-21). 6. Babylon is a land that sits among many waters (Jeremiah 51:13). 7. Babylon is a country that has a heritage in the G-d of Israel but has sinned and has turned from the G-d of Israel (Jeremiah 50:11, 14, 24, 29, 38, 51:7). 8. The G-d of Israel would have healed the land of Babylon if she would have repented but she will not repent (II Chronicles 7:14, Jeremiah 51:8-9). 9. The good news of Messiah is going forth from the land of Babylon but it will be "cut off" in "the time of harvest" which is the end of the age (Jeremiah 50:16, Matthew 13:39). 10. Babylon is a country that does not believe that it will experience the wrath and judgment of the G-d of Israel (be a widow) (Isaiah 47:5, 7-10, Revelation 18:7-8). 11. The attacking power against Babylon is from the north (Jeremiah 50:3, 9, 26, 41, 51:48). 12. Babylon is destroyed by extremely accurate arrows (missiles) and the attack is devastating (Jeremiah 50:9, 14, 29, 42, 51:3, 11). 13. A fire is kindled in the cities of Babylon from the accurate arrows (missiles) (Jeremiah 50:32, Revelation 18:8). 14. Babylon will be destroyed in the way that Sodom and Gomorrah was destroyed (Isaiah 13:19, Jeremiah 50:40). 15. When Babylon is destroyed, it will never be inhabited again (Isaiah 13:19-20, Jeremiah 50:3, 13, 26, 39-40, 51:2-3, 26, 29, 37, 43, 63-64). 16. The nations of the world tremble and shake in fear at the defeat of Babylon (Jeremiah 50:46, Revelation 18:9-10). 17. The house of Judah (Judaism) and the house of Israel (Christianity) who live in Babylon are called to flee from Babylon and go to the land of Israel (Isaiah 13:14, Jeremiah 50:4-5, 16-19, 28, 33, 51:9, 45, Revelation 18:4). 18. The house of Judah (Judaism) and the house of Israel (Christianity) who live in Babylon and who have escaped the sword (judgment upon the land of Babylon) are called by the G-d of Israel to let Jerusalem come to their mind (Jeremiah 50:4, 51:50). 19. When Babylon is destroyed, the sins of the house of Judah (Judaism) and the house of Israel (Christianity) will be pardoned (the exile will be over and the house of Judah and the house of Israel will be restored) (Jeremiah 50:20). 20) When the house of Judah (Judaism) and the house of Israel (Christianity) flees the land of Babylon and returns to the land of Israel, they will enter into an ETERNAL covenant that will not be forgotten (the Messianic Age/Athid Lavo) (Jeremiah 50:4-5 = Ezekiel 37:26-27). the usa is babylon, only those who flee her judgments will survive THERE WILL NOT BE A PRE_TRIB RAPTURE I will have to research Ed Chumney, before I say anything in response to this reply, other than thanks for participating. to aid you in your research, Eddie Chumney on GLC [link to www.waytozion.org] It is best to test all things also he does a news update on Paltalk, shabbat mornings 7:30est |
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(OP) User ID: 465270 United States 05/29/2011 12:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | chapter 11 [link to www.waytozion.org] Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1370012THE USA IS MODERN DAY BABYLON Spiritually (sod/deeper meaning), the USA is the land of Babylon. The word Babylon means "confusion" (Genesis [Bereishit] 11:9). Babylon is a generic term in the Bible that refers to the ways of the adversary (HaSatan) and his kingdom of darkness. The Bible talks about a financial Babylon, a political Babylon, a religious Babylon and a land of Babylon. Literally (Peshat), the modern land of Babylon is the area of Iran and Iraq. However, today, very few members of the house of Judah (Judaism) and the house of Israel (Christianity) live in Iran and Iraq. Therefore, there must also be a spiritual (sod/deeper meaning) land of Babylon. Today, the USA is the spiritual land of Babylon. The prophets of Israel had much to say about the judgment of the land of Babylon in the end of days. The judgment of the land of Babylon in the end of days is prophesied in Isaiah (Yeshayahu) chapter 13, 21:1-10 and chapter 47, Jeremiah (Yermiyahu) chapters 50 and 51. In the Brit Hadashah (New Testament), the judgment of the land of Babylon in the end of days is spoken about in Revelation 18. Chapter 11, The Judgment of the Nations 1. Babylon is an end-time nation who is judged by the G-d of Israel "in those days and in that time" and in the "day of trouble." This is a reference to the time of Jacob’s trouble or the birth pangs of the Messiah (Chevlai shel Mashiach) (Isaiah 13:8, 13, 21:3, Jeremiah 50:4, 20, 51:2, 43). 2. Babylon is a rich and economically prosperous country (Jeremiah 50:37, 51:13, Revelation 18:3, 19). 3. Babylon is a land of "mixed/mingled people" (Jeremiah 50:37). 4. Babylon is a world military power (Jeremiah 51:53). 5. Babylon is a country that has defeated mighty kingdoms through war (Jeremiah 50:23, 51:20-21). 6. Babylon is a land that sits among many waters (Jeremiah 51:13). 7. Babylon is a country that has a heritage in the G-d of Israel but has sinned and has turned from the G-d of Israel (Jeremiah 50:11, 14, 24, 29, 38, 51:7). 8. The G-d of Israel would have healed the land of Babylon if she would have repented but she will not repent (II Chronicles 7:14, Jeremiah 51:8-9). 9. The good news of Messiah is going forth from the land of Babylon but it will be "cut off" in "the time of harvest" which is the end of the age (Jeremiah 50:16, Matthew 13:39). 10. Babylon is a country that does not believe that it will experience the wrath and judgment of the G-d of Israel (be a widow) (Isaiah 47:5, 7-10, Revelation 18:7-8). 11. The attacking power against Babylon is from the north (Jeremiah 50:3, 9, 26, 41, 51:48). 12. Babylon is destroyed by extremely accurate arrows (missiles) and the attack is devastating (Jeremiah 50:9, 14, 29, 42, 51:3, 11). 13. A fire is kindled in the cities of Babylon from the accurate arrows (missiles) (Jeremiah 50:32, Revelation 18:8). 14. Babylon will be destroyed in the way that Sodom and Gomorrah was destroyed (Isaiah 13:19, Jeremiah 50:40). 15. When Babylon is destroyed, it will never be inhabited again (Isaiah 13:19-20, Jeremiah 50:3, 13, 26, 39-40, 51:2-3, 26, 29, 37, 43, 63-64). 16. The nations of the world tremble and shake in fear at the defeat of Babylon (Jeremiah 50:46, Revelation 18:9-10). 17. The house of Judah (Judaism) and the house of Israel (Christianity) who live in Babylon are called to flee from Babylon and go to the land of Israel (Isaiah 13:14, Jeremiah 50:4-5, 16-19, 28, 33, 51:9, 45, Revelation 18:4). 18. The house of Judah (Judaism) and the house of Israel (Christianity) who live in Babylon and who have escaped the sword (judgment upon the land of Babylon) are called by the G-d of Israel to let Jerusalem come to their mind (Jeremiah 50:4, 51:50). 19. When Babylon is destroyed, the sins of the house of Judah (Judaism) and the house of Israel (Christianity) will be pardoned (the exile will be over and the house of Judah and the house of Israel will be restored) (Jeremiah 50:20). 20) When the house of Judah (Judaism) and the house of Israel (Christianity) flees the land of Babylon and returns to the land of Israel, they will enter into an ETERNAL covenant that will not be forgotten (the Messianic Age/Athid Lavo) (Jeremiah 50:4-5 = Ezekiel 37:26-27). the usa is babylon, only those who flee her judgments will survive THERE WILL NOT BE A PRE_TRIB RAPTURE I will have to research Ed Chumney, before I say anything in response to this reply, other than thanks for participating. to aid you in your research, Eddie Chumney on GLC [link to www.waytozion.org] It is best to test all things also he does a news update on Paltalk, shabbat mornings 7:30est Thanks, Ill look at the website. I work mornings and wont make paltalk at 730Est. What can be proved requires no faith to accept. -------------------------------------------------------------------------- When the eagles are silent the parrots begin to jabber. (Winston Churchill) -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Isaiah 8 12 "You are not to say, ‘ It is a conspiracy!’ In regard to all that this people call a conspiracy, And you are not to fear what they fear or be in dread of it. 13 "It is the Lord of hosts whom you should regard as holy. And He shall be your fear, And He shall be your dread. [link to www.youtube.com] |
AlasBabylon
User ID: 1405074 United States 05/29/2011 12:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | . Quoting: AlasBabylon"jews" are not Israelites, they descendants of edomites who lost a war with Israel around 120BC and were forced to "covert" [bad idea.] Real Israelites are now Christian... so keep that in mind when you read Zech 2:8. . That sounds like replacement theology, am I correct? No, Israel was not replaced. Israelites became Christians just like Jesus said they would. "I came only to the lost sheep of Israel." "My sheep hear My voice... and they follow Me." It is important to understand that at the time of Christ, there were two very different people in Palestine, Israelites and edomites [who had been "converted" a century before.] To the non-Israelite edomite-jews Jesus said: "You do not believe because you are not My sheep." The edomite-jews were anti-christs [anti-messiah] as was their edomite-jew king, Herod, who, when the wise men told him of Israel's new born messiah, tried to murder Him by murdering the babes in Bethlehem. True Israel was in Palestine and in the diaspora. The vast majority of Israelites had been scattered into Europe and Asia since around 720 BC and most of those had lost their Israel identity and had become as the "gentiles" [the word gentiles means nations.] These were the "other fold" of sheep Jesus spoke about. True Israel in Palestine and in the diaspora became known as Christians, fulfilling the Isaiah prophecy that says God would call His People by another name [Christians.] " James, a servant of God and of the Lord Jesus Christ, To the twelve tribes scattered among the nations: Greetings. " James 1:1 . Last Edited by AlasBabylon on 05/29/2011 01:01 PM |
AlasBabylon
User ID: 1405074 United States 05/29/2011 01:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | God was married to Israel in the Old Testament, but divorced Israel her because of her pagan infidelity and Israel was sent away to live with her pagan lovers. The bride God marries in the New Testament is Israel.... not a replacement, but the same Israel. To understand why God incarnated and died for Israel, one must understand that under the Law of God, once a divorced woman becomes the wife of another man, her first husband can not remarry her. Jesus, God incarnate, died to break the old marriage covenant, so He and Israel could remarry. . |
Edge Rider
User ID: 1377922 United States 05/29/2011 01:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 11. The attacking power against Babylon is from the north (Jeremiah 50:3, 9, 26, 41, 51:48). Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1370012canada? Row, row, row your boat...gently down the stream...merrily, merrily, merrily, merrily...life is but a dream... [link to en.wikipedia.org] / [link to www.youtube.com] |
iCarbon Boy®
(OP) User ID: 465270 United States 05/29/2011 01:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 11. The attacking power against Babylon is from the north (Jeremiah 50:3, 9, 26, 41, 51:48). Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1370012canada? ?? What can be proved requires no faith to accept. -------------------------------------------------------------------------- When the eagles are silent the parrots begin to jabber. (Winston Churchill) -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Isaiah 8 12 "You are not to say, ‘ It is a conspiracy!’ In regard to all that this people call a conspiracy, And you are not to fear what they fear or be in dread of it. 13 "It is the Lord of hosts whom you should regard as holy. And He shall be your fear, And He shall be your dread. [link to www.youtube.com] |
iCarbon Boy®
(OP) User ID: 465270 United States 05/29/2011 01:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | . Quoting: AlasBabylonGod was married to Israel in the Old Testament, but divorced Israel her because of her pagan infidelity and Israel was sent away to live with her pagan lovers. The bride God marries in the New Testament is Israel.... not a replacement, but the same Israel. To understand why God incarnated and died for Israel, one must understand that under the Law of God, once a divorced woman becomes the wife of another man, her first husband can not remarry her. Jesus, God incarnate, died to break the old marriage covenant, so He and Israel could remarry. . I'm having trouble following your train of thought on this one AlasBabylon. I have spent a substantial amount of time in the bible and haven't come away with what you are illustrating. Would you mind elaborating some more, or perhaps provide a link with some reference material to help me learn some more about what you are talking about? What can be proved requires no faith to accept. -------------------------------------------------------------------------- When the eagles are silent the parrots begin to jabber. (Winston Churchill) -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Isaiah 8 12 "You are not to say, ‘ It is a conspiracy!’ In regard to all that this people call a conspiracy, And you are not to fear what they fear or be in dread of it. 13 "It is the Lord of hosts whom you should regard as holy. And He shall be your fear, And He shall be your dread. [link to www.youtube.com] |
AlasBabylon
User ID: 1405074 United States 05/29/2011 01:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | . . OT prophecy of God remarrying Israel after Israel has been divorced and sent into the diaspora. " Enlarge the place of thy tent, and let them stretch forth the curtains of thine habitations: spare not, lengthen thy cords, and strengthen thy stakes; For thou shalt break forth on the right hand and on the left; and thy seed shall inherit the Gentiles, and make the desolate cities to be inhabited. Fear not; for thou shalt not be ashamed: neither be thou confounded; for thou shalt not be put to shame: for thou shalt forget the shame of thy youth, and shalt not remember the reproach of thy widowhood any more. For thy Maker is thine husband; the LORD of hosts is his name; and thy Redeemer the Holy One of Israel; The God of the whole earth shall he be called. For the LORD hath called thee as a woman forsaken and grieved in spirit, and a wife of youth, when thou wast refused, saith thy God. For a small moment have I forsaken thee; but with great mercies will I gather thee. In a little wrath I hid my face from thee for a moment; but with everlasting kindness will I have mercy on thee, saith the LORD thy Redeemer. " from Isaiah 54 . |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1385405 United States 05/29/2011 01:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | i read the new testament about like 50 times Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1402771and the old testament a few never in anything i have read does it say "god judges america, a country in the future past the sea monsters" and jesus did not say collecvt guns either You're right because there we're no guns back then. He said collect "swords". Read your Bible! |