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How do I speed up my metabolism?

OH! which aurvedic diet do i fALL into?

Are you talking about your Ayurvedic dosha? I have not really studied Ayurveda so I couldn't tell you.

I know the best diet recommended in the Vedas is a lacto-vegetarian diet.

lacto-vegetarian diet?

Change over to a Lacto-Vegetarian diet, and eliminate high fructose corn syrup and excess sugars that you consume.

How is your diet currently?

Hrm. It is quite hard to make it, as there is not a whole lot of detail.

But to me, the subject on the horse almost appears to be lesser headed Ananta Sesha.

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Sometimes he has 5 heads, sometimes he has 7 heads.

It's quite hard to make out if they are snake heads or just figure placeholders.

Do you have other images that might make it easier to keep in context or is that the only one?

I can clearly see what side you are representing. I was at your stage about 4 years ago. I had read the Holy Science hoping that we are entering something more hopeful.

But I was not taking the Vedas for their seriousness. I was thinking the same as you, that I could find interpretation and somehow bring deeper understanding. But I was unable to do so.

I only found more perfection within the Vedas.


You bring up the point that we are experiencing a technological revolution, and information and knowledge are every increasingly available.


But that is a sign of only increasing Kali Yuga. Kali Yuga is the Age of Hyprocrisy and Quarrel, and those are very much prominent now. Kali Yuga is not an age of lack of knowledge.

Dvapara yuga is not the Age of Hypocrisy and Quarrel. Kali Yuga is also the age of increasing material advancement. Material advancement, like computers and TV is all maya. That is definitely a sign of Kali Yuga. All authorized acharyas agree.

In Dvapara yuga, Krishna is the Avatar.
The duration of life during Dvapara yuga is 1,000 years.

How do you rectify this? Do you then claim that this cannot be and is only figurative?

Then you enter into a vast web of confusion trying to discern what from the Vedas is knowledge, and what can you interpret.


This is not the way to approach the Vedas.





We are in a mini Golden Age, within Kali Yuga. That is the accepted Shastric statements.



In the [link to en.wikipedia.org] Brahma Vaivarta Purana, which is an authorized Vedic text, one of the Puranas.

It is stated that there is a 10,000 year golden age, beginning at the start of Kali Yuga when BHAKTI YOGIS will be present. At the end of the 10,000 year period (there are still 4990+ years left) there will be no more Bhakti Yogis, and the world will sink into a Godless civilization, until the Kalki Avatar arrives to return the world to Satya Yuga.




Satya Yuga
Treta Yuga
Dvapara Yuga
Kali Yuga
Satya Yuga <---- Starts over again.


This is the shastric view. This is what is supported in the Vedas. It does not go.

Satya
Treta
Davapara
Kali
Kali
Dvapara
Treta
Satya

That is not found ANYWHERE in the Vedas.




Here is the references to the Golden Age WITHIN Kali Yuga, and how it lasts 10,000 years. How is there a 10,000 year golden age within a 1000 year of humans? That does not make sense, it only makes sense if you calculate the years of the devas to equal 360 years of the Humans.

You have yet to convince me with shastra that 1 year of the humans equals 1 year of the devas. For it clearly states in all Vedic scripture, 360 human years is 1 year of the devas.



Predicted in Brahma-vaivarta Purana 4.129.*. The fourth part of the Brahma-vaivarta is called Krsna-janma-khanda. Chapter 129 is called Golokarohanam, because it describes how Krsna returns to His abode. The general dialogue is between Lord Narayana and Narada Muni. This specific dialogue is between Lord Krsna and Mother Ganga. Verse 49 is a question by Ganga, verses 50-60 are Krsna's answer.

Text 49:

bhaagiirathy uvaaca
he naatha ramaNaSreStha
yaasi golokamuttamam
asmaakaM kaa gatiScaatra
bhaviSyati kalau yuge

"Ganga said: O protector, Supreme enjoyer, on your departure for the perfect abode, Goloka, thereafter what will be my situation in the age of Kali?"

Text 50

Srii-bhagavaan uvaaca
kaleH paMcasahasraaNi
varSaaNi tiSTha bhu-tale
paapaani paapino yaani
tubhyaM daasyaMti snaanataH

"The Supreme Personality of Godhead said: Remain on earth for five thousand years of Kali yuga. Sinners will deposit their sins in you by bathing."

Text 51

man-maMtropaasaka sparSaad
bhasmibhutaani tatkSaNaat
bhaviSyaMti darSanaac ca
snaanaad eva hi jaahnavi

"By the sight, touch and bathing of one who worships Me by My mantra all those sins will be at once burnt to ashes, O Ganga."

Text 52

harernaamaani yatraiva
puraaNaani bhavaMti hi
tatra gatvaa saavadhaanam
aabhiH saarddhaM ca SroSyasi

"There will be chanting of the name of Hari and reading of the [Bhagavata] Purana. Reaching such a place, attentively hear.

[note: In Puranic language, when "Purana" is used alone it refers to Bhagavata Purana. Otherwise it will specify Skanda Purana, Visnu Purana, etc.]

Text 53:

puraaNa SravaNaaccaiva
harernaamaanukiirtanaat
bhasmibhutaani paapaani
brahma-hatyaadikaani ca

"Sinful reactions including the killing of a brahmana can be nullified be hearing the [Bhagavata] Purana and chanting of the names of Hari in the manner of devotees."

Text 54:

bhasmibhutaani taanyeva
vaiSNavaaliMganena ca
tRNaani SuSkakaaSthaani
dahaMti paavako yathaa

"Just as dry grass is burnt by fire, by the embrace of Vaisnavas all sins are burnt."

Text 55:

tathaapi vaiSNavaa loke
paapaani paapinaamapi
pRthivyaaM yaani tiirthaani
puNyaanyapi ca jaahnavi

"O Ganga, the whole planet will become a pilgrimage site by the presence of Vaisnavas, even though it had been full of sinners and sins."

Text 56:

madbhaktaanaaM SariireSu
santi puteSu saMtatam
madbhaktapaadarajasaa
sadyaH putaa vasundharaa

"In the body of My devotees remains eternally [the purifier]. Mother Earth becomes pure by the dust of the feet of My devotees."

Text 57:

sadyaH putaani tiirthaani
sadyaH putaM jagat tathaa
man-maMtropaasakaa vipraa
ye maducchiSRbhojinaH

"It will be the same in the case of pilgrimage sites and the whole world. Those intelligent worshipers of My mantra who partake of My remnants will purify everything."

Text 58

maam eva nityaM dhyaayaMte
te mat praaNaadhikaaH priyaaH
tad upasparSa maatreNa
puto vaayuSca paavakaH

"Those, who everyday meditate only on Me, are more dear to Me than My life. The air and fire become pure simply by their indirect touch."

[Note: Sastra says that of all material elements, fire and air are always pure. Even though the air carries some impurities it always remains itself pure. This verse indicates that the Vaisnavas will purify even the pure elements of fire and air, therefore the purifying potency of the Vaisnavas referred to in this verse is not material but completely spiritual. I.e. the air and fire are _already_ materially pure, therefore the Vaisnavas purity is spiritual and not material.]

Text 59:

kaler daSa-sahasraaNi
madbhaktaaH saMti bhu-tale
ekavarNaa bhaviSyaMti
madbhakteSu gateSu ca

"For 10,000 years of Kali such devotees of Mine will be present on earth. After the departure of My devotees there will be only one varna [outcaste]."

Text 60:

madbhaktaSunyaa pRthivi
kaligrastaa bhaviSyati
etasminnaMtare tatra
kRSNadehaadvinirgataH

"Devoid of My devotees, the earth will be shackled by Kali. Saying this, Krsna departed."

The above is supported in 4.90.32-33:

kalau daZa-sahasrAni
haris tiSThati medinI
devAnAM pratimA pUjyA
ZAstrANi ca purANakam

"(Sri Krsna said:) Lord Hari will stay on this earth for the first ten-thousand years of Kali-yuga. For that time the deities of the demigods will be worshiped and the Puranas and scriptures will also be present."

tad-ardham api tIrthAni
gangAdinI su niZcitam
tad-ardham grAma-devAZ ca
vedAZ ca viduSAm api

"For half that period the Ganga and other holy places will be present. For half that period the village temples and the Vedas studied by learned brahmanas will be present."




So why should I go against all that shastra?

Because Yukteswar did not read all the Puranas? Because he himself could not accept the authority of the Vedas fully?

we wont come to a complete understanding for now. you study the vedas according to the prabhuphada hare krsna tradition and i follow the essence of comparative religions. i seek understanding of life, you want to posess definite answers from a perfect dogma

you say:
The duration of life during Dvapara yuga is 1,000 years.
How do you rectify this? Do you then claim that this cannot be and is only figurative?
Then you enter into a vast web of confusion trying to discern what from the Vedas is knowledge, and what can you interpret.


but you cannot escape entering confusion and having to try to discern the meaning of the vedas yourself.

you now, at your age, stick to the absolute literal meaning of your scriptures. fine, it is your right to stick with that, but you have to know, that there are a lot of dogmatists around the world defending the literal meaning of their sacred literature, on the other hand, there are many books written as different interpretations of these same holly texts.

lets take your 1000 life span is supposed to be taken literally. you may agree with the biblical schollars, who interpret also the 1000 years of Adam to be literal. but then again with a literal christian you could not agree, that the world was made in 7 days and that God made Eve from Adam's rib.

although you could accept, that the number seven was significant at the creation (7 chakras), or maybe that the story of Adams rib actually means the connection between conception and pregnancy.

evangelican christians have such problems, because of their conviction, the bible must always be interpreted literally.

of course, you are young and said yourself you are into such books only since recent few years. so it would be impossible for you to study other religions and make comparisons to be able to discern factd from metaphers yourself.

and have you not noticed the contradiction you said?

Firstly, you denied we could be in a phase, slowly approaching enlightenment, because you somehow managed to interpret all the contemporary rapid infomation and knowledge spreading as quarrel and hypocrisy, tipical for the kali yuga. Then you went on and said, we are in a golden age part of kali yuga. where do you see this golden colour, if you cannot see the good side of information spreading? where in reality can you show, that we are in a little golden age, but at the same time we are like definitely not increasing our spirituality, for what we are doing, is kali typical?

you also claim, that sanskrit is the oldest language and that the krsna worship is like a million years old knowledge. but that is simply not so, for as i already explained, sanskrit is not the same as vedic language, and also, if you study comparatively slovene and sanskrit mythology, you will see, that the slovene goddes Ziva is older the the hindu god Siva, for he originates from the Durga, original goddes Ziva, meaning life. and this shift from the matriarchic to the patriarchic system happened a few thousand years ago and is a fact. so satya yuga - matriarchic, towards kali yuga - patriarchic

as you have probably noticed, the older vedas use the expression ashva, more than go, for the vedas originate from times, when people did not focus so much on cattle, but on horses and they also drank their milk. the ancient horse culture dominated asia from the atlantic to the pacific allready since sometime after the end of the ice age..
later, the holly cows slowly took over the place of the holly horses.

and i have to say, that you could not be where i am four years ago and that such attitude wont serve you well. you are just a bit older than my daughter and it is not nice being haughty towards people, who could be your parents, specially, if you want to present yourself as a spiritual teacher. of course you are not my teacher. i was interested in debating a hare krsna guy, but i think we wont get much further.

here is the holly science, in case you will regret your making fun of a master yogi, of course he read all the puranas.
[link to www.scribd.com]

Peace

Silly egos. Cease your quibbling. It does not dawn any jnana in your minds. You will be eaten by the Destroyer.

This thread does not deserve to be polluted by debate and bickering!

I am on a higher level than you

According to the Vedas, Sri Yukteswar is a FOOL, a RASCAL.

It is not false ego When you are arguing about your real identity, which is spiritual, it is called real ego, and real ego is worth fighting for.


There is a point to the vedas, it is not all speculation and interpretate this, interpretate that.


I am not worried about the destroyer. The destroyer is Time, and Time is the weapon of the Lord. I am a servant of the Lord and thus I am not under any illusion that I am a controller.

It is not quibbling or bickering when you are stating on absolutely authority from the Lord, the imparter of the Vedas.

Gaudiya vaishnavism expounds on only the HIGHEST meanings of the Vedas. Sri Yukteswars Spiritual Master was Jnana Yogi.

A.C. Bhaktivedanta is a Bhakti-Yogi, and that is the method of realization that I am speaking of.

All other forms of Yoga are only for leading up to Bhakti Yoga. Bhakti Yoga is the highest. This is stated in the Puranas and Upanisads.

Jnana means Philosophical Speculation

you are not very wise

good bye

You were hardly arguing about your real identity. You were arguing for the false ego. "I am on a higher level than you" no enlightened being says this.

Here is an example how you two are so used to distorting word meanings.


You are taking my quote out of context.

I said

"I am on a higher level than you because I do not try to distort the meanings of the Vedas."

This is authorized and verified. I am not speaking from Ego but I am speaking from Shastric Evidence.

Do you know what Shastra is? Shastra is quoted Scripture.


Shastra must be correct always, not sometimes correct and sometimes incorrect. In the Vedic scriptures, the cow is described as a mother. Therefore she is a mother for all time; it is not, as some rascals say, that in the Vedic age she was a mother but she is not in this age. If Shastra is an authority, the cow is a mother always; she was a mother in the Vedic age, and she is a mother in this age also.


That is how Acharyas quote references, they do not manufacture.

You can attack me all you want, but that is the nature of taking the stance that the Vedas are absolute.

I challenge you to challenge the absoluteness of the Vedas, you will not win.

One more, if you don't mind: What is the relationship between the body and the Akasha?

My second question has been with me for many years, after reading a book on Patanjali's Yoga Sutras. He said one should perform "samyama" on the relationship between the body and akasha...I've never understood that.

Oh yeah OP, that cloth I found is a Lungta prayer flag. Sooo not Sanskrit, my bad ^_^

In the Vedic scriptures, the cow is described as a mother. Therefore she is a mother for all time; it is not, as some rascals say, that in the Vedic age she was a mother but she is not in this age. If Shastra is an authority, the cow is a mother always; she was a mother in the Vedic age, and she is a mother in this age also.