Persistent contrails are not geoengineering/chemtrails...sorry

The chemtard demographic represented as a fraction of society as a whole is very close to the fraction that is clinically insane.

Although that is a very interesting point...do you think there is a way we could alleviate their fears about the trails in the sky a bit?

No.

I'm not a scientist, and I'm def not a chemtrailtard, but out of interest I've been following this story, and the arguments for it is that:

1. Contrails made of the vapor you described do not last and quickly fade away.

2. Chemtrails can last for hours, and reportedly never seen before 1997.

3. When planes produce chemtrails, theres usually more than one plane in the sky- all releasing chemtrails. The more populated the are, the more planes in the sky. These planes make X's or grid like patterns in the sky.

4. Many claim to have analyzed the fall out from these chemtrails and they contain some weird chemicals, which is where the name origionated.

Like I said, I'm not pushing these as my opinion, its just what Ive read.

On the other hand, if it is a secret gov program, why not just spray at night?

You're attempting to reason with people who are quite clearly insane, and also quite stupid.

Number one is untrue. Persistent contrails have been observed, documented, and discussed since the very early history of high altitude flight.

Anyone that tells you that is IGNORANT or lying for an agenda.

Number 2, I have a book on clouds published in 1982 that describes and has pictures of persistent contrails and explains their formation.

Another lie by chemtards.

I personally saw MY first persistent contrail back in 1959.

It went from horizon to horizon.

Yeah I figured it was all bs. I tried to find this yt video where a plane mechanic explains it as dependant on the weather, for example, more extended contrails during humid days with little to no wind- and almost none when the weather is dry or windy.

don't be sorry just be careful and 663 we already see all your chem-trolling.

Thanks for replying.

#1 is just plain wrong.

#2 is what people believe they must be seeing if they believe #1 is true.

#3 is quite silly. Paths cross... And if the conditions are conducive to contrail creation, x's and grids will result.

#4 is an outright lie being spread and accepted as fact. Samples have been taken in the air/ at ground level and many assumptions have been made. No trail has been sampled and shown to contain weird chemicals.

Thanks for your post. I understand these aren't you views.

You've got me all wrong. I honestly care about this. Since you can't provide anything constructive...why don't YOU STFU.

You aren't at all helpful

After years of trying to educate the Chemtrail folks, I have come to the conclusion that this is an impossibility and the post below could have some truth to it.

Thread: Chemtards and their Origins

OP! You seem to be riding high on conjecture. What separates you from a Chemtard?

I mean, you have a viewpoint, but that doesn't make you correct.

And who knows which is right, and which is an illusion?

I have no dog in this fight. I just see a major hole in your logic, in that you cite absolutely nothing, as a reference or confirmation by other investigators. And it is sort of dickhead-ish, to do what everyone else does, and claim that somehow you are more evolved.

Jus sayin, Pumpkin.

They are chemtrails and its working perfectly there designed to dumd people down and your a perfect fucking example!!!!!!!!!!

Well, pumpkin, I actually studied this subject in college and understand the trails and what they most likely are. I could be be just assuming they are persistent contrails. Can't you see that I'm looking for evidence that they aren't and that they have anything to do with geoengineering? I'm suggesting that semantics may have something to do with this whole issue. No need to be rude. I'm trying to discuss this rationally with rational people. Feel free to not participate if you can't understand the spirit in which this thread was made.

Why do I need to site anything? If people can't look up "persistent contrail", or don't already know what one is, why would they bother with this thread? I'm doing this from an iPhone and honestly, I'm not going to post links until I can get to a regular pc.

No need to be rude.

Thank you for your unhelpful and completely emotional response. It's appreciated.

Then you have to consider this.

In the REAL world there are places that make data available that PREDICTS persistent contrail formation areas.

IMAGINE THAT!

Could you post a link or do you have any specific info?

Fair enough! As I stated. I don't have a dog in this fight.

Now let's take a look at your reply earlier in this thread

Thanks for your reply.

I'm on an iPhone and would love to reply to your post. There is so much that I would like to write to you about your reply. It was exactly to type of thing I was referring in my original post. I'll get back to ya soon.

You have no idea how telling you post was. Thanks again. Gotta run.

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

"North America

In the United States, cloud seeding is used to increase precipitation in areas experiencing drought, to reduce the size of hailstones that form in thunderstorms, and to reduce the amount of fog in and around airports. Cloud seeding is also occasionally used by major ski resorts to induce snowfall. Eleven western states and one Canadian province (Alberta) have ongoing weather modification operational programs. In January 2006, an $8.8 million cloud seeding project began in Wyoming to examine the effects of cloud seeding on snowfall over Wyoming's Medicine Bow, Sierra Madre, and Wind River mountain ranges.

A number of commercial companies, such as Aero Systems Incorporated, Atmospherics Incorporated, North American Weather Consultants, Weather Modification Incorporated, Weather Enhancement Technologies International, Seeding Operations and Atmospheric Research (SOAR), offer weather modification services centered on cloud seeding. The USAF proposed its use on the battlefield in 1996, although the U.S. signed an international treaty in 1978 banning the use of weather modification for hostile purposes

During the sixties, Irving P. Krick & Associates operated a successful cloud seeding operation in the area around Calgary, Alberta. This utilized both aircraft and ground-based generators that pumped silver iodide into the atmosphere in an attempt to reduce the threat of hail damage. Ralph Langeman, Lynn Garrison, and Stan McLeod, all ex-members of the RCAF's 403 Squadron, attending the University of Alberta, spent their summers flying hail suppression. A number of surplus Harvard aircraft were fitted with racks under each wing containing 32 railroad fuzees that were impregnated with silver iodide. These could be ignited individually or all at once, depending upon the threat. In coordination with ground units, the aircraft would lay a plume of silver iodide in front of approaching cumulo-nimbus clouds with noticeable effect. Large, active CBs were reduced to nothing. Heavy hail storms were reduced in intensity. This effective program was funded by farmer contributions and government grants."

Yeah, stop coming to this website and posting your crap. No one is buying it here. I am sorry, adults with the heads screwed on straight KNOW that air crystals DO NOT stay frozen for HOURS and cloud up the sky. This geo program has been around for roughly 8 years, and the skies 15 - 20 years ago DID not look like they do know.

No amount of your BS is going to change that. OWNED. Go to the backstreet boys website or something, leave the science to the adults.

Lol!

I thought it correlated to the numbers of people that flunked 8th grade...

This is my evidence...

Maybe science is something you chemtards should look into, rather than paranoid, ignorant speculation.

And excellent evidence it is.

The person has no clue yet is thoroughly convinced of his own superior intelligence.

Has proven my point quite nicely.

I'm still wondering what an "air crystal" is...

That's what takes up the space normally reserved for the brain in the average chemtard's head.