COVERUP AT LOS ALAMOS!!

ironically this pic I got from the NASA Earth Observatory site from the 27th is the most conclusive picture of all imo..it shows the fire zones further to the East then the rest judging by the distance from the canyon..

Why this isnt pinned along with Fuku and Ft.Calhoun/Cooper is beyond me...

The picture sharpens

I just noticed the time stamp shows that is yesterdays loop

alot of good it does to let you know you got a dose a day later

you'd think it would be in present time like most loops..

If there are barrels of radiated water on pallets inside the tents they are fine. The fire could burn the scrub brush and even the tents without overheating the barrels. Even if one of them got hot enough to spew it would be localized and easily cleaned up.

My worry is strictly the plants growing on the radiated ground. These plants hold a large content of radiation and would easily release it to steam with flames. I would not want to breath any of this stuff.

If anyone is in the area with a Geiger get some readings, especially low and still areas where the radiation can accumulate overnight with dew. Any rain clouds forming from the areas with smoke would be suspected to contain radiation as well.

I blended the 6-27 image with the terrain map and came up with the image above..I'm not 100% certain that it's correct since like I mentioned earlier I've never done that before..

but everything does seem to line up and it seems to be a basic match with the images from the last two days..

if you look at the areas N and W of Mesita Del Buey where the fire appears to have reached there are quite a few facilities in that general vicinity including the Technical Area that had the fire attributed to the squirrel

I'll try to blend the MODIS image into a TA map etc to try to determine exactly which facilities may have been effected..

Last Edited by RTS on 07/06/2011 09:25 AM

I'm not having much luck blending the images to show which facilities may have been effected..if the image above turns out to be correct I'd be surprised at this point..it does seem to match images for 7-4 and 7-5 just by 'eyeballing' it and using the canyon on the right as a reference point..

second opinions would be much appreciated at this point..

btw I'm still convinced that the fire took out a large section of the lab facilities just by looking at it..

it shouldn't take some fancy 'overlay' to see that..

imo it only takes a brian and a little common sense

Last Edited by RTS on 07/06/2011 09:51 AM

imo the image on the right shows the fire going through lab facilities and into the northern foothills/mountains..it looks pretty obvious to me..

today's pics..







[link to lance-modis.eosdis.nasa.gov]

I tell you, this whole Casey Anthony trial is a diversion to cover up the shit that is hitting the fan over at those nuclear facilities.

yup..it even fooled the majority here given the amount of attention paid to the issue..

I said on one of Trinity's threads that I thought half the members and half the AC's are shills..

the lack of attention given to these events bears that out..

but then again the lack of updates might have something to do with it

It is interesting that the Los Alamos evacuation was lifted this week in spite of the satellite imagery showing that the fire has progressed right up to the boundary of the Los Alamos National Laboratory reservation.

This link shows a map of the Technical Areas and Material Disposition Areas at Los Alamos overlaid with a map of the fire boundary as of June 27th:

[link to www.flickr.com]

This link shows the same map as of July 5th:

[link to www.flickr.com]

Now why would they open the lab and city back up if the fire has moved closer to the lab? Hmmm...

By the way, the MDA holding those 30,000 drums of low level waste is MDA-G. There's lots of other nasty stuff in the other MDAs and TAs...tritium, high explosives, mercury, transuranics, etc.

This thread deserved 1,000,000x more attention than what it is recieiving. Bump, 5 stars, suggest pin!

If I was a resident...I wouldnt be anymore

that's just crazy

the Satellite images show something entirely different imao

blah bla bla..

your 'all rights reserved' map came from where?

you can't even see where the Technical Areas are at in that pic..

I think I'd rather 'trust' an archived LANL map then yours..

so..sorry but total

The overlay maps of the fires were taken from:

June 27th
[link to wildfiretoday.com]

July 5th
[link to www.inciweb.org]

The maps of the technical areas and material disposition areas were taken from:

www.lasg.org

I know the quality is crappy...that is the best I could do using Powerpoint. However, the maps are aligned quite properly. I used the highway loop that circles back around to White Rock for the alignment.

Make your own decision based on this...in fact, why not try it yourself and see what you come up with.

I was already convinced of what happened when I posted this thread on the 29th..if I wasn't I wouldn't have started a thread..on page one I said that I thought Area G was incinerated on the 27th..I'll stick with that assessment because that's what I believe actually happened..the difficult thing is proving it..I'm sure if that is the case shills will be sent in to obfuscate and attempt to make it more complicated then it actually is...

they are here at last

now maybe this thread will get more bumps!

Calling someone a shill is weak

If you doubt the maps I created, then create your own using the links I provided.

If you doubt the data for the fire boundary provided by the links that is another matter and I have absolutely nothing to do with that.

I presented a very sound overlay from existing data sources. You can believe what you want regarding the situation there on the ground. But don't call me a shill. I'm just a dude like you trying to figure out what is going on there.

Check out how GLP Pins some ACs thread after both you and I have been working on these for days.

But I will bump it anyway

Calling someone a shill is not a weak argument on this forum imo as long as as 'those who accuse' can back up their reasoning..

The US Government has heavily invested in paid shills in an attempt to obfuscate anything that might approach the actual truth of something..

they have a vested intrest in what goes on 'even' at a place like GLP...

as a matter of fact one of the POTUS's czars wants to get rid of places like this and may have even been referring to GLP specifically when he made his infamous statement

now..understanding what I just said wouldn't it be logical that you just might be a shill??

btw..my plea for technical assistance apparently fell on deaf ears when it came to you..I wasn't asking for some 'official' map comparison..I was asking for a satellite comparison to known facilities

I agree..not to be an attention whore but to bring attention to what probably happened..

Thanks AC!

That's the problem at Los Alamos they don't have proper coverups. TENT? Are you serious! You put plutonium waste in TENTS!

Ok, Ok, quite right. I have to play your game I guess. So I took your beloved MODIS image of the fire (current as of 7/6/11)

[link to lance-modis.eosdis.nasa.gov]

And I downloaded the image into Google Earth as a KMZ file.

Then I plotted the coordinates of Area G as given by this site:

[link to wikimapia.org]

The resulting image was captured and saved. You can see it here:

[link to www.flickr.com]

Area G is located within TA-54 and is designated by the yellow thumbtack.

And for further reference, here is a map of the TAs and MDAs at Los Alamos (taken from www.lasg.org):

[link to www.flickr.com]

As you can clearly see, the fire is currently no where near Area G.

Now, I plead with you to stop calling people shills who do not deserve that designation. It undermines the truth. I don't know if these satellite images show us the truth. But, it is all we have to go by and for you to keep on insisting that Area G has been scorched is irresponsible and idiotic.

shill is a legit word especially on this site..idiotic is nothing but an insult imao..btw..I looked at your 'maps' and it does nothing except prove my point imo..

btw..thanks for the bump!

Please explain how that image proves your point? It clearly shows where the fire is now and where it has been. There are no scorched areas anywhere near Area G.

like I sort of said..you just need to look at the side by side images and picture where it may have gone instead of being reliant on some technical GEEK or some fancy 'overlays'..imo it might amount to actually caring in the first place and from that point agreeing that I'm probably right..admit it..most who have posted in this thread so far have agreed with me..

all it takes is a little bit of common sense instead of kissing tptb ASS imao...

my .02

This will be my last post on your thread.

Sometimes I seriously wonder about people on this site. Do some people have agendas here or are some people just so full of themselves that they can't admit that they might be wrong?

I have used the same images you used from MODIS and simply added a thumbtack. No overlays involved. But it completely shatters your position and you don't seem to like that. Is it because you don't want to admit that your original hypothesis might be wrong? Or are you, in fact, pushing an agenda for some unknown reason? I will stop short of using the shill word, but you are not acknowledging or attempting to dispute the evidence I put forward in any logical or consistent manner. My map stands on its own. I don't have to defend it. People see what they want to see I guess.

I wish you the best in your quest for truth...if that is indeed what it is.

I was a bit drunk last night so instead of debunking his post I offered my opinion instead..here's just a few things I noticed about his post..I could probably find many more discrepancies but imo it would be a waste of my time..

the reference link to lanl regarding the supposed location of the TA's is invalid..quoting ac



Invalid URL

The URL [link to www.lasg.org)] contains characters that are not valid in the location they are found.
The reason for the problem may be a mistyped URL, but the URL may also be an attempt to trick you into visiting a website which you might mistake for a site you trust.

(^^^^re the link at the bottom..the so called source^^^^)

this map he posted...

[link to www.flickr.com]

where does he get the outline from?

doesn't look like any google map I've ever seen..the borders could have been drawn in randomly for all I know..and why is the pic labeled 'all rights reserved'? would I get sued if I tried to post them here after taking a screenshot??

btw thats the only way you can save those images

I welcome reasonable attempts at debunking..but what that guy posted is just too weird..way too many red flags

Last Edited by RTS on 07/07/2011 09:57 AM

Maybe they won't have a choice..if I'm right they may not have a home to go to or a lab to work at..

but of course everything is a-ok there..'officially'

I'm thinking the fire probably took out the airport..

this might be the most obvious place to look for new clues about what's really happening

Last Edited by RTS on 07/07/2011 10:27 AM

Nope, no shill here... and haven't given up... :)
Pondering the imponderable is where I'm at. :)

Totally agree with your last post, as well..... my thoughts exactly.
Time will tell, but seriously doubting as a collective we actually have that much time.


Keepin on keepin on.....

thanks for quoting that post..I actually removed it before I learned that you had quoted it..

I removed it because I thought it was unnecessary taunting and might scare them off..



Last Edited by RTS on 07/07/2011 10:41 AM