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MARY DOES NOT ANSWER PRAYER NOR AN INTERCESSOR FOR IT.

 
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Catholics constantly insist they do not worship Mary, however to pray to her as an intercessor replaces the role of Jesus. She has been the so called answer to prayer for thousands worldwide for millenia even Pope John Paul the second claims she saved his life. Unless Jesus has come back and raised the dead Mary is still in her grave. The so called one true church claiming we need to come back to the "Mother church" the one who has created the abominable offsprings.
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I recieve those words as hostility towards my kind!@!
Some of us only hold the title for kicks and giggles you know! No need to be hating :)
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I recieve those words as hostility towards my kind!@!
Some of us only hold the title for kicks and giggles you know! No need to be hating :)
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No hating at all!
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LoL no worries...
Although you really need to ask yourself this, what difference to YOU does it make what god or goddess they pray too?
Look at all the wars that have gone on for the sake of "god" what ever his title may be...
If people just stopped giving a damn about those little things, just maybe, we might stop killing each other over something we cant touch, smell, see or hear *unless your crazy*
of course, common sense seems to be way too much to ask from my fellow human beings... lol
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I am the Lord, that is My name; I will not give My glory to another, nor My praise to graven images.
Isaiah 42:8

Just the kind of thing that the Reformation was made from, God's Word
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To the Catholic Church from Me! to the pope

Isiah 1:15. and when you spread out your palms, I hide my eyes from you. Even though you make many prayers, I am not listening, with bloodshed your very hands have become filled
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MARY DOES NOT ANSWER PRAYER NOR AN INTERCESSOR FOR IT.

Catholics constantly insist they do not worship Mary, however to pray to her as an intercessor replaces the role of Jesus. She has been the so called answer to prayer for thousands worldwide for millenia even Pope John Paul the second claims she saved his life. Unless Jesus has come back and raised the dead Mary is still in her grave. The so called one true church claiming we need to come back to the "Mother church" the one who has created the abominable offsprings.
 Quoting: HMMM 1449381


There is no statistical evidence that your god answers your prayers when people of your denomination pray.

And I agree that is a good way to determine if a religion is fake or not, but I do suggest you would apply such logic in a more consistent way...
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Catholics constantly insist they do not worship Mary, however to pray to her as an intercessor replaces the role of Jesus.
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She, the Mother does not replace but complement the Son:

God created man in his own image, in the image of God he created him; male and female he created them. Genesis 1:27


It´s in your own bible !
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Catholics constantly insist they do not worship Mary, however to pray to her as an intercessor replaces the role of Jesus. She has been the so called answer to prayer for thousands worldwide for millenia even Pope John Paul the second claims she saved his life. Unless Jesus has come back and raised the dead Mary is still in her grave. The so called one true church claiming we need to come back to the "Mother church" the one who has created the abominable offsprings.
 Quoting: HMMM 1449381


No she doesn't "replace the role of Jesus". The church doesn't teach this at all. Please educate yourself properly on the matter from a Catholic source before stating things like this.
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Too bad that you are wrong.

Mary, Mother of God, Mother of Mankind, Mother of the Church.

Divine Immaculate Conception - in order to bring the Son of God to Earth.
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Too bad that you are wrong.

Mary, Mother of God, Mother of Mankind, Mother of the Church.

Divine Immaculate Conception - in order to bring the Son of God to Earth.
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wtf seriously...

Good post OP it shouldn't even need explaining.

Luke 8:20 And it was told him by certain which said, Thy mother and thy brethren stand without, desiring to see thee.
Luke 8:21 And he answered and said unto them, My mother and my brethren are these which hear the word of God, and do it.


I'm sure she was a very virtuous woman and that's really the end of it.

NOW THE REAL REASON THE RCC WANTS YOU WORSHIPPING MARY -

Ezekiel 8:14 Then he brought me to the door of the gate of the LORD's house which was toward the north; and, behold, there sat women weeping for Tammuz.

For the pagans (satanists) you have an unholy trinity of Nimrod, Semirammis and Tummuz (who they equate to Jesus/ Yahushua). Same sort of reasoning behind changing the sabbath to the 'sun' day etc. etc.

Don't believe their lies.
Matt 5:17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil. 18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.

Psalm 119:165 Great peace have they which love thy law: and nothing shall offend them.

Amos 8:11  Behold, the days come, saith the Lord GOD, that I will send a famine in the land, not a famine of bread, nor a thirst for water, but of hearing the words of the LORD:

Ruth 1:1 Now it came to pass in the days when the judges ruled, that there was a famine in the land.
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Too bad that you are wrong.

Mary, Mother of God, Mother of Mankind, Mother of the Church.

Divine Immaculate Conception - in order to bring the Son of God to Earth.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1446548


Mary is not the Mother of God, she is the Mother of Jesus the Man. Show me where in the Bible it says that God has a Mother. This is another good example of how the Catholic Church creates it's own Dogma.
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Too bad that you are wrong.

Mary, Mother of God, Mother of Mankind, Mother of the Church.

Divine Immaculate Conception - in order to bring the Son of God to Earth.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1446548


wtf seriously...

Good post OP it shouldn't even need explaining.

Luke 8:20 And it was told him by certain which said, Thy mother and thy brethren stand without, desiring to see thee.
Luke 8:21 And he answered and said unto them, My mother and my brethren are these which hear the word of God, and do it.


I'm sure she was a very virtuous woman and that's really the end of it.

NOW THE REAL REASON THE RCC WANTS YOU WORSHIPPING MARY -

Ezekiel 8:14 Then he brought me to the door of the gate of the LORD's house which was toward the north; and, behold, there sat women weeping for Tammuz.

For the pagans (satanists) you have an unholy trinity of Nimrod, Semirammis and Tummuz (who they equate to Jesus/ Yahushua). Same sort of reasoning behind changing the sabbath to the 'sun' day etc. etc.

Don't believe their lies.
 Quoting: Jerichofall


Paganism (from Latin paganus, meaning "country dweller", "rustic"[1]) is a blanket term, typically used to refer to polytheistic religious traditions.

It is primarily used in a historical context, referring to Greco-Roman polytheism as well as the polytheistic traditions of Europe and North Africa before Christianization. In a wider sense, extended to contemporary religions, it includes most of the Eastern religions and the indigenous traditions of the Americas, Central Asia, Australia and Africa; as well as non-Abrahamic folk religion in general. More narrow definitions will not include any of the world religions and restrict the term to local or rural currents not organized as civil religions. Characteristic of Pagan traditions is the absence of proselytism and the presence of a living mythology, which explains religious practice.

In the Christian perspective the term has been used historically to encompass all non–Abrahamic religions.[2][3] The term pagan is a Christian adaptation of the "gentile" of Judaism, and as such has an inherent Abrahamic bias, and pejorative connotations among monotheists,[4] comparable to heathen and infidel also known as kafir (كافر) and mushrik in Islam. Peter Brown observes:

The adoption of paganus by Latin Christians as an all-embracing, pejorative term for polytheists represents an unforeseen and singularly long-lasting victory, within a religious group, of a word of Latin slang originally devoid of religious meaning. The evolution occurred only in the Latin west, and in connection with the Latin church. Elsewhere, "Hellene" or "gentile" (ethnikos) remained the word for "pagan"; and paganos continued as a purely secular term, with overtones of the inferior and the commonplace.[5]

Satanists? I don't think so. More like nature loving country folk who were abused and looked down upon by Pharisees and Saducees ie. The RCC!
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Catholics constantly insist they do not worship Mary, however to pray to her as an intercessor replaces the role of Jesus. She has been the so called answer to prayer for thousands worldwide for millenia even Pope John Paul the second claims she saved his life. Unless Jesus has come back and raised the dead Mary is still in her grave. The so called one true church claiming we need to come back to the "Mother church" the one who has created the abominable offsprings.
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you should check out the amazing "coincidences" regarding Fatima and JPII life ..attempted assasination and funeral..just to give you a bit to look into

she is the Mother of Jesus..thats enough for us to LOVE and HONOR Her..you have a problem with that? tough!
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Too bad that you are wrong.

Mary, Mother of God, Mother of Mankind, Mother of the Church.

Divine Immaculate Conception - in order to bring the Son of God to Earth.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1446548


Mary is not the Mother of God, she is the Mother of Jesus the Man. Show me where in the Bible it says that God has a Mother. This is another good example of how the Catholic Church creates it's own Dogma.
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+1 ... a very good point !! Thanks for sharing.
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Catholics constantly insist they do not worship Mary, however to pray to her as an intercessor replaces the role of Jesus. She has been the so called answer to prayer for thousands worldwide for millenia even Pope John Paul the second claims she saved his life. Unless Jesus has come back and raised the dead Mary is still in her grave. The so called one true church claiming we need to come back to the "Mother church" the one who has created the abominable offsprings.
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you should check out the amazing "coincidences" regarding Fatima and JPII life ..attempted assasination and funeral..just to give you a bit to look into

she is the Mother of Jesus..thats enough for us to LOVE and HONOR Her..you have a problem with that? tough!
 Quoting: wildhoney

Luke 1.35. In answer the angel said to her "Holy Spirit will come upon you, and power of the Most High will overshadow you.
FOR THAT REASON also what is born will be called holy, Gods Son.

" For that reason". the reason being that the Holy Spirit came upon her in Gods Power. Not because of who she was but because of who God is.

Honor OK; Worship=Wrong
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Catholics constantly insist they do not worship Mary, however to pray to her as an intercessor replaces the role of Jesus. She has been the so called answer to prayer for thousands worldwide for millenia even Pope John Paul the second claims she saved his life. Unless Jesus has come back and raised the dead Mary is still in her grave. The so called one true church claiming we need to come back to the "Mother church" the one who has created the abominable offsprings.
 Quoting: HMMM 1449381


you should check out the amazing "coincidences" regarding Fatima and JPII life ..attempted assasination and funeral..just to give you a bit to look into

she is the Mother of Jesus..thats enough for us to LOVE and HONOR Her..you have a problem with that? tough!
 Quoting: wildhoney

Luke 1.35. In answer the angel said to her "Holy Spirit will come upon you, and power of the Most High will overshadow you.
FOR THAT REASON also what is born will be called holy, Gods Son.

" For that reason". the reason being that the Holy Spirit came upon her in Gods Power. Not because of who she was but because of who God is.

Honor OK; Worship=Wrong
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and also because of who She is..or do you think anyone could have been picked for the role of Mother of Christ? of course not..Mary was picked because she is PERFECT in every way..
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Catholics constantly insist they do not worship Mary, however to pray to her as an intercessor replaces the role of Jesus. She has been the so called answer to prayer for thousands worldwide for millenia even Pope John Paul the second claims she saved his life. Unless Jesus has come back and raised the dead Mary is still in her grave. The so called one true church claiming we need to come back to the "Mother church" the one who has created the abominable offsprings.
 Quoting: HMMM 1449381


you should check out the amazing "coincidences" regarding Fatima and JPII life ..attempted assasination and funeral..just to give you a bit to look into

she is the Mother of Jesus..thats enough for us to LOVE and HONOR Her..you have a problem with that? tough!
 Quoting: wildhoney

Luke 1.35. In answer the angel said to her "Holy Spirit will come upon you, and power of the Most High will overshadow you.
FOR THAT REASON also what is born will be called holy, Gods Son.

" For that reason". the reason being that the Holy Spirit came upon her in Gods Power. Not because of who she was but because of who God is.

Honor OK; Worship=Wrong
 Quoting: Strut1eleven

and also because of who She is..or do you think anyone could have been picked for the role of Mother of Christ? of course not..Mary was picked because she is PERFECT in every way..
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This ain't rocket science. The way the ancients figured it, to have a god-man on Earth, a story needed two things. 1. A source for His Godness, and 2. A source for His humanity.

Ancient books are chock a block with stories of divine men. Over and over those stories include details showing exactly these two details. Where'd the divinity come from? A God. Where'd His humanity come from? A woman. Just as the fact of a miracle is evidence that a God is at work, the-divinity-came-from-a God facts in these stories were evidence that the godman was different from a regular human.

Just "A Woman"
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Catholics constantly insist they do not worship Mary, however to pray to her as an intercessor replaces the role of Jesus. She has been the so called answer to prayer for thousands worldwide for millenia even Pope John Paul the second claims she saved his life. Unless Jesus has come back and raised the dead Mary is still in her grave. The so called one true church claiming we need to come back to the "Mother church" the one who has created the abominable offsprings.
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you should check out the amazing "coincidences" regarding Fatima and JPII life ..attempted assasination and funeral..just to give you a bit to look into

she is the Mother of Jesus..thats enough for us to LOVE and HONOR Her..you have a problem with that? tough!
 Quoting: wildhoney

Luke 1.35. In answer the angel said to her "Holy Spirit will come upon you, and power of the Most High will overshadow you.
FOR THAT REASON also what is born will be called holy, Gods Son.

" For that reason". the reason being that the Holy Spirit came upon her in Gods Power. Not because of who she was but because of who God is.

Honor OK; Worship=Wrong
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and also because of who She is..or do you think anyone could have been picked for the role of Mother of Christ? of course not..Mary was picked because she is PERFECT in every way..
 Quoting: wildhoney


"There is none Good but One, that is, God" (Mark 10:18).
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What is the First Commandment in the KJV Bible?


That should answer it all. She was just a woman. She did not die for you! Jesus Christ DID! Accept Him and Everlasting Life is yours. Anything else, and may as well start pounding sand !!!
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What is the First Commandment in the KJV Bible?


That should answer it all. She was just a woman. She did not die for you! Jesus Christ DID! Accept Him and Everlasting Life is yours. Anything else, and may as well start pounding sand !!!
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Just as many people here will ask others to pray for them, Catholics will also ask the Blessed Virgin Mary, and other saints, to pray for us. The Lord wants us to help each other when we can by praying together for each other. It is an expression of love.
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Just as many people here will ask others to pray for them, Catholics will also ask the Blessed Virgin Mary, and other saints, to pray for us. The Lord wants us to help each other when we can by praying together for each other. It is an expression of love.
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The Bible says to let no-one stand between Man and God and that the only valid intercessor is Jesus, but you'd have to read the Bible to know that and I know that most Catholics don't, instead blindly following the man made religion of the Church.
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This seems like a beautiful FAITH
I still aint prayin to Mary though.
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Catholics constantly insist they do not worship Mary, however to pray to her as an intercessor replaces the role of Jesus. She has been the so called answer to prayer for thousands worldwide for millenia even Pope John Paul the second claims she saved his life. Unless Jesus has come back and raised the dead Mary is still in her grave. The so called one true church claiming we need to come back to the "Mother church" the one who has created the abominable offsprings.
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there is no intercessor, not even Jesus. And you are allowed to commune with any celestials you wish. Mary is not in her grave, NO one is in their grave, the soul departs the body, it is NOT in the grave ever, what a bunch of bull some folks "beleive." Mary was a highly advanced would who incarnated to play a role at that time, as well as all the other major players in that story. Jesus has come back in 1954, the ressurrection process has been going on since that time, people are simply SORTED as they pass this world to where they are going next, returning t earth or moving. It's just that simple people. These bodies don't go to heaven out of any grave, they don't go to heaven period, these are low level bodies and they return to the earth on your death.
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Catholics constantly insist they do not worship Mary, however to pray to her as an intercessor replaces the role of Jesus.
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She, the Mother does not replace but complement the Son:

God created man in his own image, in the image of God he created him; male and female he created them. Genesis 1:27


It´s in your own bible !
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That is pure bull too, the bible is horribly in accurate, the people back in those days were just as confused as today and reading the whole thing should prove my point. Few Christians I have run into have actually read all of it, if they did, it would go in the trash.
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Catholics constantly insist they do not worship Mary, however to pray to her as an intercessor replaces the role of Jesus. She has been the so called answer to prayer for thousands worldwide for millenia even Pope John Paul the second claims she saved his life. Unless Jesus has come back and raised the dead Mary is still in her grave. The so called one true church claiming we need to come back to the "Mother church" the one who has created the abominable offsprings.
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there is no intercessor, not even Jesus. And you are allowed to commune with any celestials you wish. Mary is not in her grave, NO one is in their grave, the soul departs the body, it is NOT in the grave ever, what a bunch of bull some folks "beleive." Mary was a highly advanced would who incarnated to play a role at that time, as well as all the other major players in that story. Jesus has come back in 1954, the ressurrection process has been going on since that time, people are simply SORTED as they pass this world to where they are going next, returning t earth or moving. It's just that simple people. These bodies don't go to heaven out of any grave, they don't go to heaven period, these are low level bodies and they return to the earth on your death.
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Your body might be Low Level mate but mines top quality material. lol
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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1435647

This seems like a beautiful FAITH
I still aint prayin to Mary though.
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hf
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Catholics constantly insist they do not worship Mary, however to pray to her as an intercessor replaces the role of Jesus.
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She, the Mother does not replace but complement the Son:

God created man in his own image, in the image of God he created him; male and female he created them. Genesis 1:27


It´s in your own bible !
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That is pure bull too, the bible is horribly in accurate, the people back in those days were just as confused as today and reading the whole thing should prove my point. Few Christians I have run into have actually read all of it, if they did, it would go in the trash.
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Possibly, it takes a highly spiritual person to read through the apparent inaccuracies and contradictions to discern the actual truth and amazing consistently that is really there.

I'd say that better minds than yours have tried to disprove it and failed.
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Mary is for those who want to GO GODDESS, but don't have the balls to declare themselves pagan.





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