POWER GRID TAMPERING-PRELUDE TO ATTACK????????

Most sensible approach is DC superconducting interconnects
between small old fashioned grids. DC can run on a single
coax cable.

It's too good of doom to be true. It will never happen. everything will continue as it has.

Did you read the whole article.No one has heard of the company that is in charge of this idea.My husband works for one of the power companys and what this guy is saying makes total sense.You can't fix something that's not broken this way.

and so it begins...

ever wonder if michio is a disinfo agent? how come he is the only physicist in the entire country that goes on tv to talk about doom gloom and alien life.

i misread ur reply..........i thought u said ' the consTIPATED part of me"

No that's other times when I post...

btw, glad to see you back in a position of authoritah.

I posted a reply on a similar thread; I guess I will have to repeat myself. This cannot work because of all the monitoring relays and electronics that are already calibrated to a national standard (and there are millions of these devices). Tampering with grid frequency will cause all these devices to trip out, the grid will go into blackout and you will have a national crisis. The Soviets experimented with this technique in their industrial regions and it resulted in severe electric industrial motor and electronic systems damage that crippled their core production for three years. This is a nitwit idea that is being pushed by uneducated politicians who are owned by companies who do not have our best interests in mind. It is all about control.

On a national level it's always about control. Or money.



Nice post OP

But what right does the federal government have to screw with citizens who are upset with them?

This is what we having waiting for - a sign, they are truly worried about CMEs or Emps, etc...

That is ABSOLUTELY right!

Professor Michio Kaku has made it VERY clear that 2012 CME will be FAR greater than anything science had imagined. (That's nearly a quote.)

There was never grid that was "designed." With the invention of computerized distribution of electricity, a "grid" was hastily hooked up so that wasted electricty could be used where it was needed.

Therefore, it had to hook up all kinds of power generation protocols with no time to ensure that a failure in Canada would could the entire Northeast to be without electricity for days (which happened).

CME's CAN destroy large portions of electrical power generating systems and appliances (like 25,000 transformers). Professor Kaku has made it clear that it is possible to loose the entire electrical system in the U.S. for weeks or months.

What he didn't say was what had been established prior to the year 2000 (Y2K). And that is that the hordes of hungry people who would readily "kill to eat" would kill off the geeky computer people (and in this case the guys who can repair the grid in other ways).

Without them, we could lose everything we ever gained in the 20th century.

I'm in the power industry. For the government to control us they would have to control the power companies. IT CAN'T BE DONE! If they try to cripple regions or areas of the country to punish or force citizens to their will they will also cut their own throats. Interdependence is the rule of modern technology. Cut out a facet of that technology and you initiate a domino effect. Backup generators will last only as long as you have access to fuel. Vehicles will run only as long as you have fuel. The majority of gas stations in the US do not have backup power systems. The people have the ability to stop fuel deliveries if the gov't should try. The military is also in the same boat; their stockpiles will only last so long. The US relies on very long lines of supply since we have exported the majority of our manufacturing overseas. Our civilization is actually very fragile, think about it.

I'm grasping at straws trying to find a reasonable explanation for this. All I can think of right now is the following:

1) They are indeed concerned with an EMP/CME/Earth ElectroMagnetic field disaster, and by operating different segments at different frequencies, perhaps it could limit damage, if not by frequency, then by isolation or a combination. Perhaps one frequency or a certain range is more
vulnerable or rubust. Seems like a stretch to me, but if it's a specific foreign weapon, maybe it has limitations.

So damage control.

Seems like a stretch. Not my idea, just my take on it.(Other people have already posted this.

2) They are getting ready or have already sold off the grid, or authority to manage sections of it. This is to split it up in a way it can't be easily recombined. Once divided, they plan on altering it radically like the track width difference between the Old Soviet Union and Germany.

Once complete, they can attack a region, say the coal belt, so it's unlivable, everybody moves out, they rush in and buy everything up, or just plant new "stakes."

They could rotate the suffering. I don't think anybody brought this one up. Divide and conquor. Zbig likes to do that. Carve Iraq up into Kurdistan, a Shia area, a Sunni area.
The brits did that a lot after WWI.

3)Riot control(Least Servant's) idea. Cut off LA, or Detroit
if it gets really nasty. But they could do that already, can't they?

4) straight up ruin the whole grid.

5) Part of the Smart-Meter sham. They are installing communications into the power lines so the "soon to be announced" new electrical devices with hidden bugs/cameras/remote controls can operate like your cable box.

6) Electrosmog soft kill/ mind control. I also think this one is unlikely. That's what the cell towers are for.

I would like to believe that this is to make it harder to disrupt the grid, but I don't trust TPTB. The "smart grid" was obviously not to secure our power. It made it easier for a terrorist to disrupt power to large sections of the country. This could be to help protect us from the cascading black out if something goes wrong, but it really doesn't sound like the best way to do that. Why fuck with a system that has worked for over a hundred years? Separating the regional systems wouldn't be that hard, so why would they change it in a way that will fuck with all the clocks? Maybe it's to help the economy by making people design and sell new clocks.

Thanks! I'll check it out!!

haven't they already divided it into nine regions?

I wonder could this be a sign of the antichrist operating behind the scene,

He will try to change times and laws; and they will be given into his power for 3 1/2 years - Daniel 7:25

Yep sounds good. Maybe that is the reason they built the Georgia Guidestones in the early 1980's. They are working on the NWO after Papa Bush announced it on Sept 11, 1990 exactly 11 years before the 911 Ritual his son pulled off. Why do you think Gore was denied the presidency? Baby Bush has a job to do and that was to begin the downslide of our nation and world. The NWO will be brought in to reflect the Georgia Guidestones. The NWO will have free energy, and all the new toys. It will take time but that is what they are planning. That will be the start of a new era and the Elites today will have done their jobs.

This is just my feelings.

You are correct. It is impossible to run sections of the national grid at different frequencies while keeping each section tied to the grid.

You have made a very interesting observation and your theory is plausible.

Separating the grid into sections sounds like a good idea to me! With all the natural disasters that have been happening and all that are ahead, it makes a lot of sense to NOT "have all your eggs in one basket". Surge protectors between sections. Good thinking for a change.

congrats

VERY interesting

I pray critical medical and industrial devices don't blow. Imagine a drug delivery pump using the power line as a timing base and everything starts to run fast, the poor patient may end up overdosing on whatever medication they are on.

How about nuclear medicine? X-ray machines using power line as a timing base may fry their patients if the timing is slow.

Industrial CNC servo motor controllers may calculate distances and rpms inaccurately if distance or rpms is calculated by how many clock cycles or jiffies [based on power line ] it takes per one tick signal from the servo motor.

Power supply regulators on computer motherboards maybe overly stressed and fail regulating power line frequency drifts that exceed standards.

There maybe a conspired effort to force people to buy new consumer goods to replace the old or Chinese manufacturers desire to build power systems of one power standard rather than multiples for different nations.

Experiment... yeah right

that's just the lame cover story which they will follow up with the standard issue:

"oops"

Thanks man, I always enjoy your stuff.



Might as well pimp the thread I wanted pinned now:

Thread: GLASS-STEAGALL MOBILIZATION

It's my spiel on restoring/creating a real economic system.
Not perfect, but a step TOWARDS Star Trek.(Without the NWO/globalism meme) Predominantly not my original material either.

Gore knows the score so knew he would "lose" to Bush. The guy who has more British royal blood "wins" the U.S. presidential election.

The 2000 "election" opened my eyes to that. It was obvious after the nomination that Gore was there to throw it. At that time, Clinton was liked by both parties, because he really moved the agenda forward in a way that didn't anger a lot of sheeple. There wasn't even such a term to my knowledge. ANYBODY should have been able to beat W.

But he threw it. He accomplished a lot doing it, and he was paid well to do it(we should all know now).

Spanked Nader(sicked the dems against him, to reinforce the split the vote meme)

Created a "close race" to setup the voting machines.

In the end I think he revealed himself, by the way he threw it. Revealed it to me.

That opened a hole in my "reality."

I'm not totally sold on your perspective, but I'm reading it.

Now back to the topic at hand. I'm a sort of apprentice level with AC circuits. Pretty good with DC, but had only introductory level education(Electronics 101) on AC circuits.

I was surprised when I saw that a motor was used as a phase converter for a large milling machine a buddy bought from his employer.

This cover story STINKS!

EXPERTS, please elaborate on the architecture of our electrical grid.

I'm looking. But I'm not an expert. I can recap LCD monitors, and I've started working on rear projection big screen tv's I got free from Craigslist.

I'm a newbie.

Please come back and give us an overview. Good exercise for a tech, right?



Last Edited by Luvapottamus on 07/18/2011 01:58 AM

Come BACK please, and elaborate if you don't mind. You may not be accustomed to teaching what you know, but you might find it a useful and fun exercise. (I like explaining automotive technology to my customers. Writing or vocalizing it stimulates creativity for me. You probably don't have "customers" like I do, but please give us an overview of the architecture if you have time/inclination.)

Correct. The bloodlines rule the world. Many on this forum and in the US still believe in elections. The President is selected not elected.

Last Edited by Buford2 on 07/18/2011 02:16 AM

well you got to remember that this is very important because my penis grew very big when I came to this post or what do you call it oh thread, yeah it got very big and started to squirt all over so please don't have anymore power grid tampering ok guys please.....