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User ID: 1489166 United States 08/09/2011 07:56 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The consequences of attacking Syria, Monday 09 January 2006, four years ago! Look at it from a military and strategic perspective: Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1499337By William Rivers Pitt t r u t h o u t | Perspective <...> ...Syria's military is nothing to scoff at. Virtually every credible analysis has Syria standing as the strongest military force in the Middle East after Israel. ... As of 2002, Syria had some 215,000 soldiers under arms, 4,700 tanks, and a massive artillery capability. The Syrian Air Force is comprised of ten to eleven fighter/attack squadrons and sixteen fighter squadrons, totaling somewhere near 650 aircraft. ... If Iran jumps into the fray: <...> ...December of 2004, Iran "has some 540,000 men under arms and over 350,000 reserves. They include 120,000 Iranian Revolutionary Guards trained for land and naval asymmetrical warfare. Iran's military also includes holdings of 1,613 main battle tanks, 21,600 other armored fighting vehicles, 3,200 artillery weapons, 306 combat aircraft, 60 attack helicopters, 3 submarines, 59 surface combatants, and 10 amphibious ships." ... Of all the missiles in in Iran's armament, the most dangerous is the Russian-made SS-N-22 Sunburn. These missiles are, simply, the fastest anti-ship weapons on the planet. The Sunburn can reach Mach 3 at high altitude. Its maximum low-altitude speed is Mach 2.2, some three times faster than the American-made Harpoon. The Sunburn takes two short minutes to cover its full range. The missile's manufacturers state that one or two missiles could cripple a destroyer, and five missiles could sink a 20,000 ton ship. ...A closing of the Straits of Hormuz will bring the developed countries to a grinding halt. "About 90 percent of the oil exported from the Gulf in recent years passed through the Strait of Hormuz..." And this...water cut off to Iraq by Syria, Turkey, and Iran would severly hinder U.S. troops: Iraq is mostly desert. Its inhabitable areas are fed by the Tigris from Turkey, the Euphrates from Turkey and Syria and a network of smaller rivers from Iran. It's going to be interesting to see how this all works out. . Thanks, now I get it. Last Edited by WOMAN WHO RUNS W/ WOLVES on 08/09/2011 07:57 AM The process has begun |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1487735 Bulgaria 08/09/2011 08:00 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I don't really get the Syria thing. Yes, he is a dictator but sometimes I wonder if democracy may not be an inferior form of government to a good dictator. There would probably be less hands in the pie and it would certainly be easier to overthrow. Unlike the U.S., cause we are really stuck with the big mess we have since it will be so, so difficult to unravel. I would say almost impossible, since we know voting does not work. Quoting: WOMAN WHO RUNS W/ WOLVESSo, is it the west in there instigating things and if so to what purpose. It seems to me Assad has tried to maintain a low profile and even torched our rendered prisoners for us. So can someone please explain this to me, as we have and still do support more despotic regimes than his. It can be oil, it can be dreams to reborn ottoman empire, when Turkey was master of Syria. And words of turkish leaders that they want Turkey to be global leader - no link, this can be learned from their statements, this was journalist investigation on one tv station here. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1499337 Canada 08/09/2011 08:01 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Grab you a Bible...it's all in there. The Book of Isaiah had ALOT to say about the last days and in those days we are told that "Damascus will be taken away from being a city, and it shall be a ruinous heap." (Isaiah 17:1) Quoting: ^Watcher^Damascus (the capital of Syria) is the oldest continually existing city in the world, it has never been reduced to rubble before. I think we are about to see that prophecy fulfilled! Then we will know beyond a doubt that these are the very last days! Damascus is nothing compared to what it used to be! It was completely destroyed and never rose to the power it was: To those of you who think that the Biblical prophecy that has Damascus reduced to a heap of rubble is yet to come, that was fulfilled beginning in the year 750, and with its final destruction in 1069, Damascus lie in ruins, a "heap of rubble". Damascus is known to be the oldest continuously inhabited city in the world. There is firm evidence that in the third millennium BC, Damascus was a population center of a civilization that was considerably prosperous and economically influential. The earliest reference to the city was found in the archaeological site of Ebla in 1975; where the word "Damaski" was found on one of the clay tablets. Some historians believe that the city actually dates back to the seventh millennium BC. ......... The Abbasids In 750 the golden age of Damascus came to an abrupt end. The Abbasids, a powerful Arab family that had settled in Iran and led the opposition against the Omayyad rule, swept from the east and occupied Damascus, killing the Omayyad Caliph and putting an end to the Omayyad Caliphate. The new rulers, with the aim of eradicating all traces of the Omayyad rule, set about defacing Damascus and tearing down all the great buildings constructed by the Omayyads. They moved the capital of the Islamic empire to Baghdad, and Damascus became just a provincial town with a declining population and a declining role in politics and culture. The next three centuries were marked by successive assaults and civil strife, and Damascus continued to lose its strategic importance in the empire. Most of the city was burnt down, including the anterior of the Great Mosque. No effort was made to maintain the beautiful buildings left by the Omayyads. An Abbasid palace was built for the city's governor on the site of Qasr al-Khadra; it was destroyed in a riot in 1069. [link to www.damascus-online.com] |
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User ID: 1077295 United States 08/09/2011 08:36 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Turkish intelligence briefs leaders on Syria, Iran Quoting: CXTwow...getting really interesting fast Hi Godzilla, what do you make if this? Just words? Turkey wouldn't do anything without backing from the US Heya bud, I don't know...if they are up to something Washington is sure being mum about it...if the turks are still massing on the border with syria then there may be something to it...if anything that buffer zone idea they have thrown around may be the most plausible thing they may do. Either way it'll set off a war once they cross that border the syrians will consider it an invasion Last Edited by godzilla85 on 08/09/2011 08:36 AM |
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User ID: 1474973 Sweden 08/09/2011 08:40 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Turkish intelligence briefs leaders on Syria, Iran Quoting: CXTwow...getting really interesting fast Hi Godzilla, what do you make if this? Just words? Turkey wouldn't do anything without backing from the US Heya bud, I don't know...if they are up to something Washington is sure being mum about it...if the turks are still massing on the border with syria then there may be something to it...if anything that buffer zone idea they have thrown around may be the most plausible thing they may do. Either way it'll set off a war once they cross that border the syrians will consider it an invasion I agree!! They won't accept on turkey militar enter there territory. It's a dangerous situation, with Israel, Iran and all the so called terrorist groups in the area. One mistake could kick things off fast |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1471236 Canada 08/09/2011 08:52 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I don't really get the Syria thing. Yes, he is a dictator but sometimes I wonder if democracy may not be an inferior form of government to a good dictator. There would probably be less hands in the pie and it would certainly be easier to overthrow. Unlike the U.S., cause we are really stuck with the big mess we have since it will be so, so difficult to unravel. I would say almost impossible, since we know voting does not work. Quoting: WOMAN WHO RUNS W/ WOLVESSo, is it the west in there instigating things and if so to what purpose. It seems to me Assad has tried to maintain a low profile and even torched our rendered prisoners for us. So can someone please explain this to me, as we have and still do support more despotic regimes than his. YOU LIVE IN A REPUBLIC. You say voting doesn't work, but that's the most democratic thing you have going. Why does the US support more despotic regimes? - because they think it's in their interest to do so. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1499427 Netherlands 08/09/2011 09:00 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to www.bbc.co.uk] But, on june 17th this year: "Turkey says Syria only has a few days left to get its act together" [link to www.todayszaman.com] |
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User ID: 1337378 Belgium 08/09/2011 09:06 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Syrian tanks stormed a town in a province near the Turkish border on Tuesday and expanded an offensive on a key eastern city (Binnish) Quoting: CXTNot helpful. We'll see if Turkey let them get closer to the border. could be Assad hunkering down in preperation for incoming strikes or he's trying to end the uprising in one fell swoop Assad will not back down. He is not sheep he knows what the nwo means. It means the destruction of his country and beliefs anyway so i think he will let them do whatever they are planning to do. As the world surrenders to tyranny will you do the same thing? Will you be able to stand your ground without faith? Think about it! |
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User ID: 1077295 United States 08/09/2011 09:07 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Turkey going into Syria has been planned for some time and they have even massed forces on the Syrian border that is why you are seeing Syria take cities in a direct path to their border. This is going to happen and it's looking like it could jump off by the end of the week or the start of next. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1393840if it's going to happen...I'd say the next day or so...can't give assad a chance to dig in |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1393840 United States 08/09/2011 09:12 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Assad is already dug in but that doesnt matter anymore Turkey has the military capability to over run any Syrian position what we need to worry about is Iran,they can bog down Turkey in a very long war that is why you are seeing Saudi Arabia and Bahrain chime in. |
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