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Thank you for your posting and what a great tool to use for those who are lost. Thank you again!
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Wake the fuck up America. Devils got your nation by the balls
And shit be popping like that all over the major metropolises

Or whatever.
I didn't schooli
I fought the spiritual war against what makes that happen.
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And the first troll who says we who fought it did a bad job.

Well fuck everyone else who missed it even happening, but only until they learn how to fight themselves as well
Most on their knees in prayer
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We lost the spiritual war for America you see
Judgement comes to it soon.
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There were too few of us left standing
Because we imprison anyone who says they see demons in mental facilities.

America killed its innocent eyes.

Stabbed itself blind.
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It was written the beast would make war with the saints in revelation and that the beast would be given power to prevail over them.

Well the spiritual war wasn't televised.
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There are breededers within satanism for sacrifices - at least there are articles and history to this being truth. Her father being a satanic high priest - maybe she should give more information as to his name and where she was raised so more information will be gathered, not everyone is a satanic high priest so I would think there would be other sources of information about him. Her story is true in that it does happen, but I don't buy it from that little short film clip with no evidence.
She spent approx 7 1/2 yrs of her teenage years pregnant and then married at eighteen. She said she didn't attend school often and that the school did not follow up on her habitual absence as her parents would call and tell them she was sick?
The story has too many holes in it that needs to be filled with evidence outside of her just saying it happened - I am not saying she is a liar, I am saying at this point her claims are baseless without further information - this is no small claim she is making

Here is some evidence of truth from a satanic high priest:
Most all he said that was planned for the world by this occult power has happened since he left satanism and became a Christian. He also claimed no one left the cult without a bounty on them. And he was killed - John Todd

She needs to name names and dates - but of course she would have people that would be out to silence her as she gave away the secret workings of their agenda to gather their forces for satan and his world rule through deception

Satanism is real and it does require blood sacrifices. It operates under the cover of darkness so anyone who claims it is not a real organized cult are either fooling themselves or out to fool others
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There are breededers within satanism for sacrifices - at least there are articles and history to this being truth. Her father being a satanic high priest - maybe she should give more information as to his name and where she was raised so more information will be gathered, not everyone is a satanic high priest so I would think there would be other sources of information about him. Her story is true in that it does happen, but I don't buy it from that little short film clip with no evidence.
She spent approx 7 1/2 yrs of her teenage years pregnant and then married at eighteen. She said she didn't attend school often and that the school did not follow up on her habitual absence as her parents would call and tell them she was sick?
The story has too many holes in it that needs to be filled with evidence outside of her just saying it happened - I am not saying she is a liar, I am saying at this point her claims are baseless without further information - this is no small claim she is making

Here is some evidence of truth from a satanic high priest:
Most all he said that was planned for the world by this occult power has happened since he left satanism and became a Christian. He also claimed no one left the cult without a bounty on them. And he was killed - John Todd

She needs to name names and dates - but of course she would have people that would be out to silence her as she gave away the secret workings of their agenda to gather their forces for satan and his world rule through deception

Satanism is real and it does require blood sacrifices. It operates under the cover of darkness so anyone who claims it is not a real organized cult are either fooling themselves or out to fool others
 Quoting: Ohwow!


Then you say YHWH is satan himself, as He told jews to make sacrifices and give strict rules about it.
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Thread: ROGER MORNEAU AND SATAN'S COUNCIL
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Then you say YHWH is satan himself, as He told jews to make sacrifices and give strict rules about it.
Quote Gabriel A

Where did he ask the Israelites to make human sacrifices? Find it in His Word so we can all be enlightened. And nope. Isaac was not sacrificed if you read the whole chapter - lesson learned - no human sacrifice will do for the remission of sins - There was only one sacrifice made for the called chosen and elected and that was determined before the foundation of the world. And it was by the Grace of God that it was so and not by the will of men - and Jesus being that sacrifice was the High Priest of our profession that offered it. Willingly, with determination He died so we who are called chosen and elected might have life, and life eternal.
As Jesus said, no man takes my life from me, I have the power to lay it down, and to take it up again. Only the DEATH of a SINLESS and without BLEMISH sacrifice could take away the curse of DEATH - eternal destruction - and no living man was available because all had inherited the sin nature that indwelt ADAM - The first man
No, not one satanic sacrifice was ever a willing participant (unless drugged) with any power to say no

Jesus death was of God and not man. Mankind did not kill him to sacrifice Him, they killed Him because He was upsetting the balance of powers that the Pharisees had over the people and their arrangement with the Roman overlords that greased their wheels. Their reasons for his crucifixtion were not of God or by God, they acted out of evil hearts and God brought good for the called chosen and elected -
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There are breededers within satanism for sacrifices - at least there are articles and history to this being truth. Her father being a satanic high priest - maybe she should give more information as to his name and where she was raised so more information will be gathered, not everyone is a satanic high priest so I would think there would be other sources of information about him. Her story is true in that it does happen, but I don't buy it from that little short film clip with no evidence.
She spent approx 7 1/2 yrs of her teenage years pregnant and then married at eighteen. She said she didn't attend school often and that the school did not follow up on her habitual absence as her parents would call and tell them she was sick?
The story has too many holes in it that needs to be filled with evidence outside of her just saying it happened - I am not saying she is a liar, I am saying at this point her claims are baseless without further information - this is no small claim she is making

Here is some evidence of truth from a satanic high priest:
Most all he said that was planned for the world by this occult power has happened since he left satanism and became a Christian. He also claimed no one left the cult without a bounty on them. And he was killed - John Todd

She needs to name names and dates - but of course she would have people that would be out to silence her as she gave away the secret workings of their agenda to gather their forces for satan and his world rule through deception

Satanism is real and it does require blood sacrifices. It operates under the cover of darkness so anyone who claims it is not a real organized cult are either fooling themselves or out to fool others
 Quoting: Ohwow!


Then you say YHWH is satan himself, as He told jews to make sacrifices and give strict rules about it.
 Quoting: Gabriel Angelos


Since sacrifices were a part of every region and God required sacrifices in order to make up for our short comings....
Satan took the idea and perverted it like everything else.

How do you not see that. And to call what is Gods, evil, is the unforgiveable sin.
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The Catholic church has no God-given right to condemn anyone if that is the premise from which you made your statement above (I am making an assumption here, forgive me if I'm wrong).

The salvation offered through Jesus Christ is available to ALL!
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Matthew.16:[16] Simon Peter answered and said: Thou art Christ, the Son of the living God. [17] And Jesus answering, said to him: Blessed art thou, Simon Bar-Jona: because flesh and blood hath not revealed it to thee, but my Father who is in heaven. [18] And I say to thee: That thou art Peter; and upon this rock I will build my church, and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it. [19] And I will give to thee the keys of the kingdom of heaven. And whatsoever thou shalt bind upon earth, it shall be bound also in heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt loose upon earth, it shall be loosed also in heaven. [20] Then he commanded his disciples, that they should tell no one that he was Jesus the Christ.


Matthew.18:[11] For the Son of man is come to save that which was lost. [12] What think you? If a man have an hundred sheep, and one of them should go astray: doth he not leave the ninety-nine in the mountains, and go to seek that which is gone astray? [13] And if it so be that he find it: Amen I say to you, he rejoiceth more for that, than for the ninety-nine that went not astray. [14] Even so it is not the will of your Father, who is in heaven, that one of these little ones should perish. [15] But if thy brother shall offend against thee, go, and rebuke him between thee and him alone. If he shall hear thee, thou shalt gain thy brother.

[16] And if he will not hear thee, take with thee one or two more: that in the mouth of two or three witnesses every word may stand. [17] And if he will not hear them: tell the church. And if he will not hear the church, let him be to thee as the heathen and publican. [18] Amen I say to you, whatsoever you shall bind upon earth, shall be bound also in heaven; and whatsoever you shall loose upon earth, shall be loosed also in heaven.
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Mark 10:26 And they were astonished out of measure, saying among themselves, Who then can be saved?
Mark 10:27 And Jesus looking upon them saith, With men it is impossible, but not with God: for with God all things are possible.

Someone beat me to the punch, but there it is. I'm not sure if a filthy satanist would get away with a quick sinner's prayer a minute before dying, but that's not for me to judge (lucky for them). I certainly do believe her testimony, nothing she said in it surprises me, and she's a better Christian than I am to be able to forgive her father. Yet I know we must forgive if we expect our heavenly father to forgive us. A work in progress then cool2
Matt 5:17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil. 18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.

Psalm 119:165 Great peace have they which love thy law: and nothing shall offend them.

Amos 8:11  Behold, the days come, saith the Lord GOD, that I will send a famine in the land, not a famine of bread, nor a thirst for water, but of hearing the words of the LORD:

Ruth 1:1 Now it came to pass in the days when the judges ruled, that there was a famine in the land.
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The bible mentions the UNFORGIVABLE sin, if you are a satanist then you have probably committed this UNFORGIVABLE sin already, thus you cannot save a satanist. A satanist is forever damned according to the bible, no matter how much the satanist wants to repent and be saved. Even if it was a "teenage thing", the satanist can't be saved.
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The only unforgivable sin mentioned in the Bible is the rejection of God's Holy Spirit (or "blaspheming" God's Holy Spirit). God knows each and every person's heart, satanist or not, who are we to say who can and cannot be saved if they earnestly seek Him and pray for forgiveness.

The Catholic church has no God-given right to condemn anyone if that is the premise from which you made your statement above (I am making an assumption here, forgive me if I'm wrong).

The salvation offered through Jesus Christ is available to ALL!
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how nice should i be to the... haters in your thread?

i have a few settings....

snappy, bastard, and full on bitch.
 Quoting: t(~.~)m



lol .... This will be fun to watch
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The bible mentions the UNFORGIVABLE sin, if you are a satanist then you have probably committed this UNFORGIVABLE sin already, thus you cannot save a satanist. A satanist is forever damned according to the bible, no matter how much the satanist wants to repent and be saved. Even if it was a "teenage thing", the satanist can't be saved.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1512325


The only unforgivable sin mentioned in the Bible is the rejection of God's Holy Spirit (or "blaspheming" God's Holy Spirit). God knows each and every person's heart, satanist or not, who are we to say who can and cannot be saved if they earnestly seek Him and pray for forgiveness.

The Catholic church has no God-given right to condemn anyone if that is the premise from which you made your statement above (I am making an assumption here, forgive me if I'm wrong).

The salvation offered through Jesus Christ is available to ALL!
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how nice should i be to the... haters in your thread?

i have a few settings....

snappy, bastard, and full on bitch.
 Quoting: t(~.~)m



lol .... This will be fun to watch
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Thread: Belief in god is a mental disorder
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Ok, I'm reading both sides here, and learning alot. But the message I got from that video is......You can be a satanist, ruin the lives of your children and commit, God only knows, (pun intended) what other atrocities, and when you're dying all you have to do is say the "sinners prayer" and everything is ok? All is forgiven? To me that absolves any responsibility for your actions in the here and now! I don't know....doesn't seem right...enlighten me please.
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For the kingdom of heaven is like unto a man that is an householder, which went out early in the morning to hire labourers into his vineyard. And when he had agreed with the labourers for a penny a day, he sent them into his vineyard. And he went out about the third hour, and saw others standing idle in the marketplace, And said unto them; Go ye also into the vineyard, and whatsoever is right I will give you. And they went their way. Again he went out about the sixth and ninth hour, and did likewise. And about the eleventh hour he went out, and found others standing idle, and saith unto them, Why stand ye here all the day idle? They say unto him, Because no man hath hired us. He saith unto them, Go ye also into the vineyard; and whatsoever is right, that shall ye receive. So when even was come, the lord of the vineyard saith unto his steward, Call the labourers, and give them their hire, beginning from the last unto the first. And when they came that were hired about the eleventh hour, they received every man a penny. But when the first came, they supposed that they should have received more; and they likewise received every man a penny. And when they had received it, they murmured against the goodman of the house, Saying, These last have wrought but one hour, and thou hast made them equal unto us, which have borne the burden and heat of the day. But he answered one of them, and said, Friend, I do thee no wrong: didst not thou agree with me for a penny? Take that thine is, and go thy way: I will give unto this last, even as unto thee. Is it not lawful for me to do what I will with mine own? Is thine eye evil, because I am good? So the last shall be first, and the first last: for many be called, but few chosen.

— Matthew 20:1–16, King James Version
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i'm sure you'd rather a person with 80 years of crimes spend billions of years in torment.

but God is not that cruel.
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This thread amuses me. Continue...
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i'm sure you'd rather a person with 80 years of crimes spend billions of years in torment.

but God is not that cruel.
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No he is not that cruel. But the satanist father was. I don't propose to know what God may or may not have in store for this man's soul, but I still believe that there has to be some kind of accountability. Otherwise her story and the video gives thousands of evil people permission to carry on. I believe every soul eventually returns to God, but maybe it takes longer for some than others. And the story from the bible? I'd be pissed! Doesn't sound fair to me! naughty Well...like I said, I'm listening to both sides and not taking any, so please don't take offense of my questions, it's how I learn.
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i'm sure you'd rather a person with 80 years of crimes spend billions of years in torment.

but God is not that cruel.
 Quoting: d(~.~)b


God says He takes no pleasure in sending people to the lake of fire, but, He is a God not just of mercy, but also of justice. And however you want to cut it, less will be saved than not according to the words of our messiah:

Matthew 7:13 Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat:

If you obey God's law for no other reason than you don't want to burn in hell fire torment unending, then you have at least the beginning of wisdom.
Matt 5:17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil. 18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.

Psalm 119:165 Great peace have they which love thy law: and nothing shall offend them.

Amos 8:11  Behold, the days come, saith the Lord GOD, that I will send a famine in the land, not a famine of bread, nor a thirst for water, but of hearing the words of the LORD:

Ruth 1:1 Now it came to pass in the days when the judges ruled, that there was a famine in the land.
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I don't propose to know what God may or may not have in store for this man's soul, but I still believe that there has to be some kind of accountability.

Quote Sunny-Daze

You just hit on the one fact of Christianity, we cannot judge who is saved or who is not, only God knows the heart.

And you are right about the accountability. There is not enough information in this short video to determine what this person says is true or not. No factual data, no names, anyone could make this video as it stands. Again, I am not calling her a liar, she is just not making a clear case for her story. With what little information that is here, I am with you, where is the accountability? Where are the witnesses to this about face after so much death and destruction?

This is going to make some mad, but anyone can say a prayer, but the intent of the heart is what God sees - a prayer cannot be used as a "get out of jail free" card. So God knows who are His, we just have to believe anyone that claims to follow Jesus as they say - to a certain degree. We cannot judge them lost, but we can judge if they are in the way of Christ. Of course, this being a death bed confession, we have to accept as she reports it, if we accept her report at all.
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I don't propose to know what God may or may not have in store for this man's soul, but I still believe that there has to be some kind of accountability.

Quote Sunny-Daze

You just hit on the one fact of Christianity, we cannot judge who is saved or who is not, only God knows the heart.

And you are right about the accountability. There is not enough information in this short video to determine what this person says is true or not. No factual data, no names, anyone could make this video as it stands. Again, I am not calling her a liar, she is just not making a clear case for her story. With what little information that is here, I am with you, where is the accountability? Where are the witnesses to this about face after so much death and destruction?

This is going to make some mad, but anyone can say a prayer, but the intent of the heart is what God sees - a prayer cannot be used as a "get out of jail free" card. So God knows who are His, we just have to believe anyone that claims to follow Jesus as they say - to a certain degree. We cannot judge them lost, but we can judge if they are in the way of Christ. Of course, this being a death bed confession, we have to accept as she reports it, if we accept her report at all.
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Yes, I agree..."intent of the heart" I think this is most important. You make a lot of sense. Thanks applause
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The bible mentions the UNFORGIVABLE sin, if you are a satanist then you have probably committed this UNFORGIVABLE sin already, thus you cannot save a satanist. A satanist is forever damned according to the bible, no matter how much the satanist wants to repent and be saved. Even if it was a "teenage thing", the satanist can't be saved.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1512325


And this is what makes your God so awesome ? He forgives all but not a young kid who worship satan for his/her stupidity but later found out his/her wrong doings and repent, but God does not forgive...

The so called God you worship has the characteristic of the most evil man, just read the Torah and see the dozens of verses ordering the genocides, including new born children. NO, this is not a GOD, the God created such a magnificient universe and earth cannot have simple human egos.

The God Christians , Jews and Muslims worship is evil , is Satan himself.

Demiurge.
 Quoting: Gabriel Angelos


I have read a number of commentaries that suggest that people all over the world are starting to come to the conclusion that the god of the old testament, from which the Christian god is derived, was actually a demon of some sort. The clues that have been suggested to me, aside from the violence, genocide and hatred that it has engendered, are its desire to have animals slaughtered and burned, because it liked to smell burning flesh. Now I do not know if this is true or not, but what I do know is true, are a couple lessons that Jesus taught. He tells us some things that are rather obvious when they have been pointed out to you. One is that "by its fruits shall you know it". If we look at the fruits of that god and we see peace, love happiness and gentility, then we know that that is what it really was. On the other hand, if we see violence, despair, bloodshed, hate and corruption, then we shall know that is what it really was.
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The bible mentions the UNFORGIVABLE sin, if you are a satanist then you have probably committed this UNFORGIVABLE sin already, thus you cannot save a satanist. A satanist is forever damned according to the bible, no matter how much the satanist wants to repent and be saved. Even if it was a "teenage thing", the satanist can't be saved.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1512325


And this is what makes your God so awesome ? He forgives all but not a young kid who worship satan for his/her stupidity but later found out his/her wrong doings and repent, but God does not forgive...

The so called God you worship has the characteristic of the most evil man, just read the Torah and see the dozens of verses ordering the genocides, including new born children. NO, this is not a GOD, the God created such a magnificient universe and earth cannot have simple human egos.

The God Christians , Jews and Muslims worship is evil , is Satan himself.

Demiurge.
 Quoting: Gabriel Angelos


I have read a number of commentaries that suggest that people all over the world are starting to come to the conclusion that the god of the old testament, from which the Christian god is derived, was actually a demon of some sort. The clues that have been suggested to me, aside from the violence, genocide and hatred that it has engendered, are its desire to have animals slaughtered and burned, because it liked to smell burning flesh. Now I do not know if this is true or not, but what I do know is true, are a couple lessons that Jesus taught. He tells us some things that are rather obvious when they have been pointed out to you. One is that "by its fruits shall you know it". If we look at the fruits of that god and we see peace, love happiness and gentility, then we know that that is what it really was. On the other hand, if we see violence, despair, bloodshed, hate and corruption, then we shall know that is what it really was.
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Yes, I agree with this too. I was raised a jehovahs witness, and this jehovah god was too scary for me. From the research I've done, I've concluded for myself, that he is not the true God. Man has been deceived as far as religion and dogma is concerned. I prefer to believe in a loving God.
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I have read a number of commentaries that suggest that people all over the world are starting to come to the conclusion that the god of the old testament, from which the Christian god is derived, was actually a demon of some sort. The clues that have been suggested to me, aside from the violence, genocide and hatred that it has engendered, are its desire to have animals slaughtered and burned, because it liked to smell burning flesh. Now I do not know if this is true or not, but what I do know is true, are a couple lessons that Jesus taught. He tells us some things that are rather obvious when they have been pointed out to you. One is that "by its fruits shall you know it". If we look at the fruits of that god and we see peace, love happiness and gentility, then we know that that is what it really was. On the other hand, if we see violence, despair, bloodshed, hate and corruption, then we shall know that is what it really was.
 Quoting: Archimedes


Yes, I agree with this too. I was raised a jehovahs witness, and this jehovah god was too scary for me. From the research I've done, I've concluded for myself, that he is not the true God. Man has been deceived as far as religion and dogma is concerned. I prefer to believe in a loving God.
 Quoting: Sunny-daze


Ok, how would you feel if you raised up people as your own children, gave them everything they wanted and then they burnt their own children to death in a sacrifice to Satan? God IS love, and mercy, but absolutely no doormat 'oh I'll put up with you no matter how much you spit in my face'.

God is HOLY, he detests sin and despises evil. And He wars with evil through his angels and his followers here on Earth. Can you handle the truth? Would you make a stand against evil if you were called out to? Or do you wanna hug a tree and hope Satan leaves you alone?

Peace to you if you've got a good heart and you care about others, but spare a thought for those people in this world we share who are persecuted, abused, murdered and worse because of the designs of evil people and principalities that are our enemy, and we are at war with.
Matt 5:17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil. 18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.

Psalm 119:165 Great peace have they which love thy law: and nothing shall offend them.

Amos 8:11  Behold, the days come, saith the Lord GOD, that I will send a famine in the land, not a famine of bread, nor a thirst for water, but of hearing the words of the LORD:

Ruth 1:1 Now it came to pass in the days when the judges ruled, that there was a famine in the land.
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The bible mentions the UNFORGIVABLE sin, if you are a satanist then you have probably committed this UNFORGIVABLE sin already, thus you cannot save a satanist. A satanist is forever damned according to the bible, no matter how much the satanist wants to repent and be saved. Even if it was a "teenage thing", the satanist can't be saved.
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And this is what makes your God so awesome ? He forgives all but not a young kid who worship satan for his/her stupidity but later found out his/her wrong doings and repent, but God does not forgive...

The so called God you worship has the characteristic of the most evil man, just read the Torah and see the dozens of verses ordering the genocides, including new born children. NO, this is not a GOD, the God created such a magnificient universe and earth cannot have simple human egos.

The God Christians , Jews and Muslims worship is evil , is Satan himself.

Demiurge.
 Quoting: Gabriel Angelos


I have read a number of commentaries that suggest that people all over the world are starting to come to the conclusion that the god of the old testament, from which the Christian god is derived, was actually a demon of some sort. The clues that have been suggested to me, aside from the violence, genocide and hatred that it has engendered, are its desire to have animals slaughtered and burned, because it liked to smell burning flesh. Now I do not know if this is true or not, but what I do know is true, are a couple lessons that Jesus taught. He tells us some things that are rather obvious when they have been pointed out to you. One is that "by its fruits shall you know it". If we look at the fruits of that god and we see peace, love happiness and gentility, then we know that that is what it really was. On the other hand, if we see violence, despair, bloodshed, hate and corruption, then we shall know that is what it really was.
 Quoting: Archimedes


Yes, I agree with this too. I was raised a jehovahs witness, and this jehovah god was too scary for me. From the research I've done, I've concluded for myself, that he is not the true God. Man has been deceived as far as religion and dogma is concerned. I prefer to believe in a loving God.
 Quoting: Sunny-daze

I want to believe in a loving God too. The more I think about it the more I am forced to admit that the Jehovah god is something really wicked. When I look at some of the excuses that its supporters come up with to explain its cruelty, viciousness and bloodlust, the more convinced I have become that it is not what they say. They speak of its frustration and anger, like it was a man, not a god. The more mental machinations people must go through to excuse it and keep up the pretense, the less likely it is that it is actually the supreme creator.
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And this is what makes your God so awesome ? He forgives all but not a young kid who worship satan for his/her stupidity but later found out his/her wrong doings and repent, but God does not forgive...

The so called God you worship has the characteristic of the most evil man, just read the Torah and see the dozens of verses ordering the genocides, including new born children. NO, this is not a GOD, the God created such a magnificient universe and earth cannot have simple human egos.

The God Christians , Jews and Muslims worship is evil , is Satan himself.

Demiurge.
 Quoting: Gabriel Angelos


I have read a number of commentaries that suggest that people all over the world are starting to come to the conclusion that the god of the old testament, from which the Christian god is derived, was actually a demon of some sort. The clues that have been suggested to me, aside from the violence, genocide and hatred that it has engendered, are its desire to have animals slaughtered and burned, because it liked to smell burning flesh. Now I do not know if this is true or not, but what I do know is true, are a couple lessons that Jesus taught. He tells us some things that are rather obvious when they have been pointed out to you. One is that "by its fruits shall you know it". If we look at the fruits of that god and we see peace, love happiness and gentility, then we know that that is what it really was. On the other hand, if we see violence, despair, bloodshed, hate and corruption, then we shall know that is what it really was.
 Quoting: Archimedes


Yes, I agree with this too. I was raised a jehovahs witness, and this jehovah god was too scary for me. From the research I've done, I've concluded for myself, that he is not the true God. Man has been deceived as far as religion and dogma is concerned. I prefer to believe in a loving God.
 Quoting: Sunny-daze

I want to believe in a loving God too. The more I think about it the more I am forced to admit that the Jehovah god is something really wicked. When I look at some of the excuses that its supporters come up with to explain its cruelty, viciousness and bloodlust, the more convinced I have become that it is not what they say. They speak of its frustration and anger, like it was a man, not a god. The more mental machinations people must go through to excuse it and keep up the pretense, the less likely it is that it is actually the supreme creator.
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ooom

um men speak of things men understand.

be careful about Jehovah, YHWH is more patient and loving than He is told to be....

more patient than entire humah life times.





GLP