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Lotus Flower
User ID: 1361979 United Kingdom 08/24/2011 01:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Why would a company manufacture something that becomes toxic after 1 year? What happens to these "filters" after they are used or expired? I'm assuming landfill? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1492966 Why can't this guy make a product that is less poisonous? I see where you are coming from, however, that is part of what is so disturbing with this occurrence, not that the bags could become toxic after a certain time, but that so many have been ordered WITHOUT bids being put in - just ordered, no questions asked sort of thing. The toxicity doesn't even seem to be on the agenda. They (Government) expect them to be used before their date is up. Doesn't this disturb you?? Lotus Be not forgetful to entertain strangers: for thereby some have entertained angels unawares - Hebrews 13:2 One Crowded hour of glorious life, is worth an age without a name - Thomas Osbert Mordaunt |
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Lotus Flower
User ID: 1361979 United Kingdom 08/24/2011 01:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Just a thought.. but if a mass part of the american population were to die, wouldn't it be easier to dispose of the bodies without bags? Quoting: valendian No, there would be dead bodies everywhere. This whole thing stinks doesn't it. Bloody mysterious actually Lotus Be not forgetful to entertain strangers: for thereby some have entertained angels unawares - Hebrews 13:2 One Crowded hour of glorious life, is worth an age without a name - Thomas Osbert Mordaunt |
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Bluebird
User ID: 730536 United States 08/24/2011 01:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Gov must be expecting one hell of a flu season! One of the most important aspects of conspiracy theories is being able to discern when there isn't one. Oh yeah, like you'd understand anyway. Where are we going and why am I in this handbasket?. . .J. Handy |
Earth Daughter
User ID: 1517863 United States 08/24/2011 01:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Just a thought.. but if a mass part of the american population were to die, wouldn't it be easier to dispose of the bodies without bags? Quoting: valendian Smell, disease, public outrage at leaving bodies exposed, etc... Many reasons why they'd want some sort of disposal system, I think. "Arrows of hate have been shot at me too, but they never hit me, because somehow they belonged to another world, with which I have no connection whatsoever." - Albert Einstein |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1359307 United States 08/24/2011 01:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Nice intro for a short story. You went a little over the top with this bit though. The main concern I have, the body bags have anti-biotic properties and fire accelerates. One year after the date of manufacture, they will lose all effectiveness. The NBC filters about 5. After those dates, the filters (and body bags) will actually become much worse than useless... they will become toxic to handle and definitely dangerous to use. Quoting: Jake101 Nice intro for a short story. You went a little over the top with this bit though. |
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Jake101
(OP) User ID: 1517873 United States 08/24/2011 01:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Nice intro for a short story. You went a little over the top with this bit though. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1359307 The main concern I have, the body bags have anti-biotic properties and fire accelerates. One year after the date of manufacture, they will lose all effectiveness. The NBC filters about 5. After those dates, the filters (and body bags) will actually become much worse than useless... they will become toxic to handle and definitely dangerous to use. Quoting: Jake101 Nice intro for a short story. You went a little over the top with this bit though. Anti-biotics, in general lose effectiveness after a year. NBC filters break-down and become toxic. It's all very basic science. |
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Lotus Flower
User ID: 1361979 United Kingdom 08/24/2011 01:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Nice intro for a short story. You went a little over the top with this bit though. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1359307 The main concern I have, the body bags have anti-biotic properties and fire accelerates. One year after the date of manufacture, they will lose all effectiveness. The NBC filters about 5. After those dates, the filters (and body bags) will actually become much worse than useless... they will become toxic to handle and definitely dangerous to use. Quoting: Jake101 Nice intro for a short story. You went a little over the top with this bit though. Why is that over the top? In your opinion, how SHOULD it have read to have made it more credible to you? Lotus Be not forgetful to entertain strangers: for thereby some have entertained angels unawares - Hebrews 13:2 One Crowded hour of glorious life, is worth an age without a name - Thomas Osbert Mordaunt |
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Jake101
(OP) User ID: 1517873 United States 08/24/2011 01:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Anti-biotics, in general lose effectiveness after a year. NBC filters break-down and become toxic. It's all very basic science. Quoting: Jake101 Wrong. You are wrong!! It would be funny, but you actually have some people a little upset. I'm sorry, but you don't know what you're talking about. What I stated is fairly common knowledge, even the government publicly acknowledges it. |
run away slave
User ID: 1515760 United States 08/24/2011 01:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Hey OP, you said the last time this type of order was made and you posted the info was 1 to 1 1/2 yrs ago. Was it shortly after the BP disaster in the GUlf? If so, it may be related since the sea floor is cracked and leaking all over the place. My exhusband worked on the first spill an was called bk down there around 8-17-11. He confirms its leaking. idk, there are so many things going on at one time its hard to keep up with them all. dont dovolit člen určitý bastard nést tebe dole |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1516631 United States 08/24/2011 01:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The NBC filters about 5. After those dates, the filters (and body bags) will actually become much worse than useless... they will become toxic to handle and definitely dangerous to use. Quoting: Jake101 Thanks for producing deadly shit that will seep into the groundwater when chucked into some garbage heap. They're made to burn, so I assume they would be burned for disposal. |
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Barn Owl
User ID: 1506838 United States 08/24/2011 01:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Just a thought.. but if a mass part of the american population were to die, wouldn't it be easier to dispose of the bodies without bags? Quoting: valendian Smell, disease, public outrage at leaving bodies exposed, etc... Many reasons why they'd want some sort of disposal system, I think. The bags will only contain the smell for so long. Despite popular belief, even a fresh corpse stinks, and we all know it only gets worse as time goes on. I don't want to really poke my nose into this topic, but I just can't resist. I'm in the funeral industry, and deal with a lot of yucky, icky things on a daily basis. In the case of body bags, I'm wondering how much the contract is for, OP. I know that our bags cost a pretty penny, and that's just for private body removals and general body transportation. I've also encountered the "more flammable" and "accelerated" bags while doing a direct-to-cremation drop off. If they're spending god knows how much just to waste money, I'd rather see them spend the money on something useful, than expensive, and unnecessary bags. Mrs. Henry Jones, Jr. (oh Indy!) |
Jake101
(OP) User ID: 1517873 United States 08/24/2011 01:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Hey OP, you said the last time this type of order was made and you posted the info was 1 to 1 1/2 yrs ago. Was it shortly after the BP disaster in the GUlf? If so, it may be related since the sea floor is cracked and leaking all over the place. My exhusband worked on the first spill an was called bk down there around 8-17-11. He confirms its leaking. Quoting: run away slave idk, there are so many things going on at one time its hard to keep up with them all. Right around then. |
Jake101
(OP) User ID: 1517873 United States 08/24/2011 01:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Just a thought.. but if a mass part of the american population were to die, wouldn't it be easier to dispose of the bodies without bags? Quoting: valendian Smell, disease, public outrage at leaving bodies exposed, etc... Many reasons why they'd want some sort of disposal system, I think. The bags will only contain the smell for so long. Despite popular belief, even a fresh corpse stinks, and we all know it only gets worse as time goes on. I don't want to really poke my nose into this topic, but I just can't resist. I'm in the funeral industry, and deal with a lot of yucky, icky things on a daily basis. In the case of body bags, I'm wondering how much the contract is for, OP. I know that our bags cost a pretty penny, and that's just for private body removals and general body transportation. I've also encountered the "more flammable" and "accelerated" bags while doing a direct-to-cremation drop off. If they're spending god knows how much just to waste money, I'd rather see them spend the money on something useful, than expensive, and unnecessary bags. They're a lot. We also make bags that seal and react with methane releases to dissolve soft tissue. |
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Barn Owl
User ID: 1506838 United States 08/24/2011 01:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Op.....why anti-biotic body bags? Why are these normally used?? Sorry if this is a stupid question.... Quoting: Anomalie I know the question is directed to OP, but in all honesty, every-day use body bags are nothing more than cheap plastic tarp with a zipper, and maybe sometimes a cheap nylon handle. I have encountered (more than once, sadly), moving a body in one of these amazingly made bags (please note my sarcasm), to have it rip and the contents of my deceased new friend spilling out. This thread has me more than intrigued, but I'd like to hear some numbers. Mrs. Henry Jones, Jr. (oh Indy!) |
Jake101
(OP) User ID: 1517873 United States 08/24/2011 01:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Op.....why anti-biotic body bags? Why are these normally used?? Sorry if this is a stupid question.... Quoting: Anomalie They're actually very common. Usually used when a corpse may have been exposed to a virus. In specific products, it can also assist in preventing rapid decomposition if the body needs to be examined. Usually in tandem with "cool bags," that help regulate the temperature inside until it can be stored properly. Very similar to the bags you can buy at the store to help keep food cold. |
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