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Revguard
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simultaneous_final
(OP) User ID: 1458700 United States 08/26/2011 12:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Anytime! There's more where that came from, good Rev. Last Edited by simultaneous_final on 08/26/2011 12:56 PM A subject observes itself observing itself observing itself observing itself observing itself observing itself observing itself observing itself ad infinitum. |
Revguard
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simultaneous_final
(OP) User ID: 1458700 United States 08/26/2011 12:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | For you and this "thinking man's thread". Quoting: Revguard Hard for some people to wrap their brain around what you typed. Thank YOU, my friend, for the bump. And thanks for appreciating the "subject" matter! A subject observes itself observing itself observing itself observing itself observing itself observing itself observing itself observing itself ad infinitum. |
Revguard
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Half-Ass
User ID: 1158769 United States 08/26/2011 01:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | good thread. it is also helpful to think of existence in terms of a function instead of a form. humans beings, for example, are a consequence of a function, that was a consequence of a function, and so on. attempting to see existence in form is subjective at best, since we all perceive the universe on a very narrow bandwidth. ( we can't see x-rays, or hear stars, etc.) there is no difference between a vesicle transporting a glucose molecule within a cell and the delivery truck driver bringing chicken to a restaraunt. the universe itself is but a single cell in "god's(?)" body, and all the billions of galaxies are the atoms, and all the stars are the electrons, etc etc. anyways, good post and karma for you! ..and now i know why things aren't as pretty from the inside.. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1515396 United States 08/26/2011 02:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Excellent analasys!! I have referred to it as " I am aware, I am aware of the fact that I am aware, I am aware of the fact that I am aware of the fact that I am aware infinitum". Many are NOT READY. Great to see yo guys got it. So, lets chew. |
simultaneous_final
(OP) User ID: 1458700 United States 08/26/2011 02:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Well, as I've demonstrated above, it's more like the "matryoshka principle" or the principle of "Russian Dolls". A subject observes itself observing itself observing itself observing itself observing itself observing itself observing itself observing itself ad infinitum. |
simultaneous_final
(OP) User ID: 1458700 United States 08/26/2011 02:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Excellent analasys!! I have referred to it as " I am aware, I am aware of the fact that I am aware, I am aware of the fact that I am aware of the fact that I am aware infinitum". Many are NOT READY. Great to see yo guys got it. So, lets chew. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1515396 Remember that that's only one half of the key. That is the "below" aspect. I once thought that it was a sufficient explanation (see my "signature", in fact) but it's only 1/2 of the story. Great work on finding the key! Now, consider the other half. Remember that the two assertions above may sound similar but they are quite different. Last Edited by simultaneous_final on 08/27/2011 10:44 PM A subject observes itself observing itself observing itself observing itself observing itself observing itself observing itself observing itself ad infinitum. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1515396 United States 08/26/2011 02:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | WOW!!! We haveboth referred to it as a "key". We are in tune to the same frequency yet the "as above so below" analysis is based on "Baphomet" belief so I donot ascribe to that interpretation: Baphomet symbolizing "as above,so below" IMAGE ( [link to i52.tinypic.com] ) |
simultaneous_final
(OP) User ID: 1458700 United States 08/26/2011 02:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Take your Neo-Theosophy and shove it up your ass! People who practice your religion have done nothing but oppress and destroy the world in the name of liberating it. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1399276 Really? What exactly is my religion again? Didn't realize I had one. Also, please review the original post as it clearly states that this thread is a "face value" thread wherein mysticism is neither promoted nor is it dismissed. Last Edited by simultaneous_final on 08/26/2011 03:29 PM A subject observes itself observing itself observing itself observing itself observing itself observing itself observing itself observing itself ad infinitum. |
simultaneous_final
(OP) User ID: 1458700 United States 08/26/2011 02:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | WOW!!! We haveboth referred to it as a "key". We are in tune to the same frequency yet the "as above so below" analysis is based on "Baphomet" belief so I donot ascribe to that interpretation: Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1515396 Baphomet symbolizing "as above,so below" IMAGE ( [link to i52.tinypic.com] ) Well, I would say the converse. That Baphomet is a (just one of many) symbol of the "As Above, So Below" concept. Of course, Baphomet's hand position is only one aspect of the overall symbol of Baphomet. It was almost like an afterthought. By posting this thread, I am eliminating the need for symbolism and stating it in completely logical terms. Please understand that I'm not promoting the Baphomet concepts or any spiritual concept at all. I'm promoting logical deduction. What I found is that when I ask the question, "What do I know?" and do the due diligence required to attain an irreducible answer, I come up with the two assertions above. Coincidentally, it matches the "As Above, So Below" concept. I'd say that's a fairly interesting discovery. It certainly hasn't been published before in the terms I describe. It's just food for thought and I'm certainly open to any argument that may arise from those assertions. Last Edited by simultaneous_final on 08/26/2011 04:07 PM A subject observes itself observing itself observing itself observing itself observing itself observing itself observing itself observing itself ad infinitum. |
simultaneous_final
(OP) User ID: 1458700 United States 08/26/2011 02:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Take your Neo-Theosophy and shove it up your ass! People who practice your religion have done nothing but oppress and destroy the world in the name of liberating it. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1399276 Really? What exactly is my religion again? And please understand, friend, that the "As Above, So Below" concept that you despise is only the logical consequence of my assertions. I am open to argument as to the validity of my assertions. Last Edited by simultaneous_final on 08/26/2011 02:35 PM A subject observes itself observing itself observing itself observing itself observing itself observing itself observing itself observing itself ad infinitum. |
simultaneous_final
(OP) User ID: 1458700 United States 08/26/2011 02:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I just want to thank all of those who have posted replies to this thread. I realize that the reading may be easy but the due diligence requires a lot of self-honesty. Last Edited by simultaneous_final on 08/26/2011 02:50 PM A subject observes itself observing itself observing itself observing itself observing itself observing itself observing itself observing itself ad infinitum. |
simultaneous_final
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simultaneous_final
(OP) User ID: 1458700 United States 08/26/2011 03:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Now, you would think that an ancient mystery such as the meaning of "As Above, So Below" being literally unraveled and explained to everyday people in no unambiguous terms (and I might add quite perspicuously) would garner a lot of attention here at GLP. <wishful thinking> When people actually get a grasp as to what this thread is about, I have no doubts that it will be quite popular. </wishful thinking> Now, for all who study Hermetics and all who study sweet sweet Logic, I would imagine that this thread will provide enlightenment and peace of mind. A subject observes itself observing itself observing itself observing itself observing itself observing itself observing itself observing itself ad infinitum. |
simultaneous_final
(OP) User ID: 1458700 United States 08/26/2011 03:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Last Edited by simultaneous_final on 08/26/2011 03:26 PM A subject observes itself observing itself observing itself observing itself observing itself observing itself observing itself observing itself ad infinitum. |
simultaneous_final
(OP) User ID: 1458700 United States 08/26/2011 03:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | OK - so as of right now, this thread has received over 250 views. Do you guys understand what this thread is about? Do you understand that this is a clear and irrefutable explanation of one of the greatest mysteries of all time? Do you understand that when you ask "illuminated" individuals what the big "secret" is, that THIS is what you're asking about? Have I been correct all along in thinking that even when explained clearly, the uninitiated simply wouldn't value the knowledge? COME ON PEOPLE! THIS IS IT! A subject observes itself observing itself observing itself observing itself observing itself observing itself observing itself observing itself ad infinitum. |
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simultaneous_final
(OP) User ID: 1458700 United States 08/26/2011 04:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | good thread. it is also helpful to think of existence in terms of a function instead of a form. humans beings, for example, are a consequence of a function, that was a consequence of a function, and so on. attempting to see existence in form is subjective at best, since we all perceive the universe on a very narrow bandwidth. ( we can't see x-rays, or hear stars, etc.) there is no difference between a vesicle transporting a glucose molecule within a cell and the delivery truck driver bringing chicken to a restaraunt. the universe itself is but a single cell in "god's(?)" body, and all the billions of galaxies are the atoms, and all the stars are the electrons, etc etc. anyways, good post and karma for you! Quoting: Half-Ass Thanks for the Karma, man! I could use it! A subject observes itself observing itself observing itself observing itself observing itself observing itself observing itself observing itself ad infinitum. |
simultaneous_final
(OP) User ID: 1458700 United States 08/26/2011 04:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Don't know, might be wrong.. Is it linked to pure awareness and responsibility for your own actions? Clutching at straws here, in a manner somewhat similar to former posters.. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1522030 Thanks for your reply, man! Everything that is needed is in the Original Post. This is not some type of enigmatic, allegorical thread. Just read the initial post, my friend. What makes the two assertions so important is that they are the ONLY two which can not be logically falsified. There MAY be others but they are not knowable. It just so happens that these two assertions imply "As Above, So Below". Last Edited by simultaneous_final on 08/26/2011 05:50 PM A subject observes itself observing itself observing itself observing itself observing itself observing itself observing itself observing itself ad infinitum. |
simultaneous_final
(OP) User ID: 1458700 United States 08/26/2011 04:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Last Edited by simultaneous_final on 08/26/2011 04:24 PM A subject observes itself observing itself observing itself observing itself observing itself observing itself observing itself observing itself ad infinitum. |
Sandi_T
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simultaneous_final
(OP) User ID: 1511504 United States 08/26/2011 05:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "A subject" is a universal way to say "I" because we can all agree on it. If I were to say "I observe myself", then you could argue with me because there is no evidence that "I" am anything more than a part of "You". The people in our dreams, for example, are extensions of ourselves, no? Perhaps I am an extension of you right now. Maybe this is a dream or somesuch thing. But to put it more simply, the only "subject" that one can vouch for is themselves. Last Edited by simultaneous_final on 08/26/2011 05:49 PM A subject observes itself observing itself observing itself observing itself observing itself observing itself observing itself observing itself ad infinitum. |
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