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Basic Esoteric/Tantric Principles - For the Benefit of Any Individuals Seeking To Raise Awareness

 
Least Servant

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Just words, to me.

 Quoting: supermarket


But there is a specific reason your training caused you to chose that word in this context.

Perhaps you do not know the answer, and so it would be unfair of me to press you.
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Very nice thread. I will definitely be using this thread as guide. I printed it out and shared it with my family. I guess I need to work on me first. I feel like my head is so cluttered with so much of the drama of life.

I do have a question though about fasting. What effect do you think denying your body of food for a period of time have on meditation?

It's hard sometimes to know what is real. I mean, look at what has transpired in our country and in the world in the past 10 years! I guess you can say it has been a roller coaster of emotions. There is a lot of negative energy that permeates the media, internet on all sides. I love to read these conspiracy forums about different subjects, and when I see a thread like this, its like a breath of fresh air.

Thanks Man.
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One thing about tantra too - is we like to keep things happy, and simple :)

Doesn't mean we don't study complex subjects.....many of us do.....but we like to keep our lifestyle clean, organized, fun, enjoyable, silly sometimes, and simple :)

This makes for an enjoyable life! Don't get too wrapped up in stuff, least it distract you from simple and happy awareness of Self :)



Fasting, has so many benefits on the physical, emotional, and mental bodies, that it would take me a very long time to present a full, comprehensive perspective on the benefits, but perhaps I will in the near future make a thread just for that ;)

I have MUCH experience with fasting, and all types of fasts.

You asked specifically about the effects on meditation, so here we go:

Fasting has the ability to REALLY sharpen your bodies (mental, emotional, physical). The effect it has on meditation, is when done right, it will clear out ALL 3 of your bodies, and thus allow you to reach true meditation MUCH quicker.

It also strengthens your Will, which, especially in the West, has because very sloppy and weak for many of us. Will is needed in meditation, so that is a great benefit.


As I mentioned , there are so many psychological benefits from fasting, it would take a lot to organize it into a post/thread. You know what though? I will do just that soon enough :) Thanks for the idea for another topic !
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Just words, to me.

 Quoting: supermarket


But there is a specific reason your training caused you to chose that word in this context.

Perhaps you do not know the answer, and so it would be unfair of me to press you.
 Quoting: Least Servant




Not my training. As I said, my teaching has never used the word.


I use the word, because you here it so often, referring to paths of spiritual discipline.

Since tantra is very much that, I find the word fitting.

What I was saying was, I can see why some people might not, and in that case, they don't need to use that word.
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Just words, to me.

 Quoting: supermarket


But there is a specific reason your training caused you to chose that word in this context.

Perhaps you do not know the answer, and so it would be unfair of me to press you.
 Quoting: Least Servant




Not my training. As I said, my teaching has never used the word.


I use the word, because you here it so often, referring to paths of spiritual discipline.

Since tantra is very much that, I find the word fitting.

What I was saying was, I can see why some people might not, and in that case, they don't need to use that word.
 Quoting: supermarket


So, then since you choose to put tantra in the catagory of organized religion, I am curious what your thinking leads you to conclude on the issue of what fundamental principles in tantra are in opposition to other religious doctrines known widely throughout the world at this present time?

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Let's be clear OP, and this is the nicest thing I can say.

You are a tantric yogin with a perhaps above average communicative ability, not a spiritual teacher.

You need to understand the difference now and work on consciously becoming what you Will to be or you are going to wind up in the deception and profit game and there will be no end to the light in the tunnel for you.

The level of naivety you currently demonstrate is dangerous to you. Even I am thinking whether your soul tastes like butterscotch or vanilla.

Please take this to heart.
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Just words, to me.

 Quoting: supermarket


But there is a specific reason your training caused you to chose that word in this context.

Perhaps you do not know the answer, and so it would be unfair of me to press you.
 Quoting: Least Servant




Not my training. As I said, my teaching has never used the word.


I use the word, because you here it so often, referring to paths of spiritual discipline.

Since tantra is very much that, I find the word fitting.

What I was saying was, I can see why some people might not, and in that case, they don't need to use that word.
 Quoting: supermarket


So, then since you choose to put tantra in the catagory of organized religion, I am curious what your thinking leads you to conclude on the issue of what fundamental principles in tantra are in opposition to other religious doctrines known widely throughout the world at this present time?
 Quoting: Least Servant





Why turn religion into organized religion?


I never put it that category.


Also, for the third time, It was simply a choice of words, if you don't like that choice of words, again, use which ever of the 10 or so examples a few posts ago I gave you ;)
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Why turn religion into organized religion?


I never put it that category.


Also, for the third time, It was simply a choice of words, if you don't like that choice of words, again, use which ever of the 10 or so examples a few posts ago I gave you ;)
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I'm not intending to give you an instruction on communication, but your failure to acknowledge the significance of your very particular choice of words in a technical sense would be a basic oversight I would not permit of a pupil, even a novice one.
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Let's be clear OP, and this is the nicest thing I can say.

You are a tantric yogin with a perhaps above average communicative ability, not a spiritual teacher.

You need to understand the difference now and work on consciously becoming what you Will to be or you are going to wind up in the deception and profit game and there will be no end to the light in the tunnel for you.

The level of naivety you currently demonstrate is dangerous to you. Even I am thinking whether your soul tastes like butterscotch or vanilla.

Please take this to heart.
 Quoting: Least Servant





That's your opinion, isn't it great, 7 billion people on Earth, and we can all have opinions :)


Who is to judge and say one is qualified to teach, and one is not?

Yes, I have taught openly and formally in Atlanta.

I didn't come here to teach, I came here to discuss, and enjoy, although we are both teaching and enjoying, in every moment.


Judge me as you will, you are entitled to it, and trust me, I take no offense whatsoever.

Have you ever sat with any spiritual teachers? They come in an infinite amount of variety my friend.....
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Why turn religion into organized religion?


I never put it that category.


Also, for the third time, It was simply a choice of words, if you don't like that choice of words, again, use which ever of the 10 or so examples a few posts ago I gave you ;)
 Quoting: supermarket


I'm not intending to give you an instruction on communication, but your failure to acknowledge the significance of your very particular choice of words in a technical sense would be a basic oversight I would not permit of a pupil, even a novice one.
 Quoting: Least Servant


You've made your point :)


If you don't like what I say or my words, just ignore them :)


I have no problem what-so-ever with your opinion, but you can make your point and then move on :) no need to waste time and energy on this, I don't think its helping anyone, is it?
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Have you ever sat with any spiritual teachers? They come in an infinite amount of variety my friend.....
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Yes, Robert Thurman kicked my ass and one of his graduate students stole $600 dollars from me (well not directly lol).

I'm just evaluating your level of instruction, as a person from a lineage that might actually matter.

In any case, do as thou Will shall be the whole of the Law.

Idol1

I have no desire to attempt to add to a container already full.
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LS - I sincerely mean it when I say I value your opinion.

Some of your damn characteristics even remind me of my OWN teacher, in a way, if that doesn't sound weird. Just something about your approach.....and how if makes me evaluate myself.....my teacher had that effect in me a lot!

She was definitely not a PLEASER, lol. She is what I'd call, a worthy opponent. Always putting me in difficult situations, and watching me struggle to find my way out.

I learn best, when I've been knocked out of my comfort zone, if that makes sense.



Really though, this thread was just to relay some principles I live my life by.....principles that as I mentioned, ANY ONE can adopt, no matter your religion, age, sex, race, etc etc.


I thought it would be a fun topic, for people to enjoy and contribute to, nothing more, nothing less.

I certainly didn't come on here to play the role of teacher.

What I posted is no different than any one posting their wisdom - everyone should be entitled to post their experiences and wisdom - it is how we grow as a collective, you know?



As I said, this forum in general, in my eyes, is to relax and have some fun - yet at the same time, to spread valuable information, that is MY opinion, and that is what I will use it for :)
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I forgot to mention the word halcyon. Why does that word get my attention?
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Ditto... always has.

ohyeah
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Hello,
I was baned(lol, banned) from GLP for a while(ask me why!) & didn't see your Atlantis thread.

I just wanted to ask, before the thread becomes 20 pages of replies, about soul groups.

From what I understand, there is no difference between souls, we are all of one source. Nosuch thing as soul mates(I was a bit broken hearted when I was taught that!)

Are my deadbeat relatives part of my 'soul group'?
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Very nice thread. I will definitely be using this thread as guide. I printed it out and shared it with my family. I guess I need to work on me first. I feel like my head is so cluttered with so much of the drama of life.

I do have a question though about fasting. What effect do you think denying your body of food for a period of time have on meditation?

It's hard sometimes to know what is real. I mean, look at what has transpired in our country and in the world in the past 10 years! I guess you can say it has been a roller coaster of emotions. There is a lot of negative energy that permeates the media, internet on all sides. I love to read these conspiracy forums about different subjects, and when I see a thread like this, its like a breath of fresh air.

Thanks Man.
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hf
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great post. much truth in it.

thankshf
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You're not gods you stupid little humans, you're just possessed by devils, that's all you are devil possessed morans, playing powers you are allowed to control for a little while to secure your demonoid status.

And then you're just like Blavatska and the rest of that crowd, tools of the unclean spirits.
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Thanks Opie Supie! I really 'get' the way that you write.

Right now I am working with the image of a woven tapestry, with all of the threads vibrating at different frequencies and emitting its own special note.

Clearing out emotional trauma (or anything where I am broadcasting 'lack' to the universe), is like picking apart the threads one by one, cleaning them and re-tuning. The threads need to be tuned and re-tuned, as the tapestry and song changes constantly with how much light, love and consciousness I am able to hold and transmit.

uni-verse = one song
We all sing together.
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You're not gods you stupid little humans, you're just possessed by devils, that's all you are devil possessed morans, playing powers you are allowed to control for a little while to secure your demonoid status.

And then you're just like Blavatska and the rest of that crowd, tools of the unclean spirits.
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Hence... the problem with organized religion.
-Sincerely, One Stupid Little Human
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Most refreshing, enlightening material you share:) By far the most resonating read in a long time. Looking forward to reading more, hope you will continue:) Thank you!

Oh! and to the individual who posted Uni-verse...Beautiful!
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Ironic how someone named Least Servant is so condescending.
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Ironic how someone named Least Servant is so condescending.
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Knowledge can come across like that, I'm sure he doesn't 'mean' to be.

I like his posts, usually. Kinda 'left brain' and cutting.
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i just wanted to say thanks and greet all of you positive people here hf
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Hello there.. I wanna thank OP and everyone for making this and other threads worth the time spent on GLP.. I'm actually posting for more of a desire to share(due to the lack of such an opportunity lately), than actually having any questions of great significance..

I've been reading the other thread as well where you discussed Atlantis, and felt the resonance most of you guys talk about.. and I know it's my intuition, which I only recently became aware of..
Several months ago I was a completely different person and completely unaware The End(or The Beginning?) is at hand. Once I opened my eyes however things began to unravel very fast for me, and I realized that my whole life I've been preparing without knowing it.. Until 6 months ago I had no interest in esoteric topics whatsoever and then Out of nowhere I was guided to an enlightened guru, who initiated me in Reiki and helped me find my path(or stay on it?). Soon after I found myself participating in a Flower Of Life workshop, where I was taught a meditation technique for activating the light body, the "Ascension vehicle" also known as Mer-Ka-Ba as it is taught by Drunvalo Melchizedek.
Now.. well now I don't have a clue what the **** is going on.. I'm searching for inner peace, but it's more like a struggle.. My parents think I'm losing my mind(and I'm not sure either lol), I feel like I am not in control of my own life, like I'm on autopilot.. I quit my job, and I'm growing a garden, and I have no idea what's next..

I guess that's the highlight in a few words.. :) I Feel better after typing this and I hope it's not too annoying for anyone reading it..
However here are a few questions for OP, or anyone willing to share their opinion..

Are you familiar with this meditation technique of which I spoke of? the Mer-Ka-Ba? And how important do you think this might turn out to be?

Another thing I have an interest in are entheogens and their cultural and physiological connection with men.. Do you think there is some value in them, like Ayahuasca, Peyote, Salvia divinorum, marijuana even? In terms of healing and expanding once's consciousness and awareness.

Thank you in advance.. it is great to be here.

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Ironic how someone named Least Servant is so condescending.
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Knowledge can come across like that, I'm sure he doesn't 'mean' to be.

I like his posts, usually. Kinda 'left brain' and cutting.
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This has been going on for over 12000 years.

It's gotten a lot better. cool2

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thank you.... time to do something about my life....
will take your teachings.... thanks again
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thank you.... time to do something about my life....
will take your teachings.... thanks again
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OP,

I know you are not a neuro-scientist; however, I am curious of your opinions/suggestions...

I recently saw in a video that the pineal gland is the location of the "third eye" and is affected early on by our diet... sugars, fluoride, etc. creating the veil which you speak of as the disconnect between our conscious mind and our subconscious.

Do you have any insight into the pineal gland... is this the epicenter for consciousness? And... more importantly, are there any foods which you can recommend that can fuel meditation, mindfulness, and even astral projection (been trying for years... nothing yet).

Thank you in advance for any help here.
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Hello,
I was baned(lol, banned) from GLP for a while(ask me why!) & didn't see your Atlantis thread.

I just wanted to ask, before the thread becomes 20 pages of replies, about soul groups.

From what I understand, there is no difference between souls, we are all of one source. Nosuch thing as soul mates(I was a bit broken hearted when I was taught that!)

Are my deadbeat relatives part of my 'soul group'?
 Quoting: Brian Moran 1533038




There are most definitely soul mates, and soul groups :)


Have you not ever resonated with someone, from the soul? You felt an immediate shared connection between them, that runs VERY deep, before you ever got to know this person physically?

Happens to me and others quite frequently!


A soul group , is a group of soul who share a similar karmic pattern/ or energetic archetype/pattern. In other words, on a very deep level, these souls have something in common - that is the easiest way to explain it.
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You're not gods you stupid little humans, you're just possessed by devils, that's all you are devil possessed morans, playing powers you are allowed to control for a little while to secure your demonoid status.

And then you're just like Blavatska and the rest of that crowd, tools of the unclean spirits.
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I don't believe anyone here ever claimed they were a God.....you must have found this thread by accident. Don't let the door hit you on the way out :)


Just because some people are aware of the subtle energies that flow through earth , themselves, and the universe - doesn't mean we are playing God.


What about those who fly in AIR PLANES, who drive AUTOMOBILES...who COOK their food?

They are using man-made inventions.....all man made technology is modeled in some way after something natural.

So what is your point? Are we ALL playing God then?


Open your mind - your shallow and ignorant ways don't suit you as a fellow human being - you make us look bad :(
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Some bumpage for those interested
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bump for truth!

Great post, supermarket :-)





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