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My team is doomed because of the NCAA

 
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My team is doomed because of the NCAA
This is my first thread, and I'm a little nervous about it. So, you should know in advance that I probably won't keep on top of your comments as well as others would.

I live in Ohio, and I'm an OSU alum. Maybe you heard about Coach Tressel resigning on account of knowing that his players were violating NCAA rules. The players in question traded gifts that they had received for free tattoos. There were other infractions, but this has been the most talked about.

Most people I know think the players should be able to do anything they want with the gifts. Coach Tressel was in a catch 22 situation. If he reported the MANY students involved, all the best players would have been suspended at a minimum. The team would have failed which would have endangered Tressel's job. The truth came out anyway, and now, he has lost his job.

I'm just wondering what y'all think of the NCAA and if any of the regulations should be modified.

Michigan fans welcome.
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Re: My team is doomed because of the NCAA
I'll admit to being ignorant of the NCAA rules, but prospective students are allowed to receive gifts for signing with a school?
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I'll admit to being ignorant of the NCAA rules, but prospective students are allowed to receive gifts for signing with a school?
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I thought they weren't allowed to receive gifts for that either, but I could be wrong.
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I think the NCAA is greedy and has an ego complex. They ask for this type of thing when they refuse to pay players and treat them as little more than cattle that serve to line their pockets.

Give the players a cut of the action, and a lot of this will go away. But.....I won't hold my breath.
No one is perfect. A babe before walking will first stumble and fall many times but NEVER gives up until he succeeds.

Always remember, ultimately, to never follow any person's belief. Your relationship with God is between you and God.

If nothing else, remember this: religion = subservience, control and conformity, the same template as EVERY government

"Most believers would kill truth if truth threatened their religion." L. K. Washburn

"This crime called blasphemy was invented by priests for the purpose of defending doctrines not able to take care of themselves." Robert Ingersoll

"If anyone wants to know how God feels, it's a warm light as if the sun is poking through dark clouds and lifting your spirits with pure joy."
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Re: My team is doomed because of the NCAA
If I remember correctly, you are from Michigan. Did you go to the U of M?
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A cut ....good one. I never thought about that.
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If I remember correctly, you are from Michigan. Did you go to the U of M?
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No, just went to a local community college for a period.
No one is perfect. A babe before walking will first stumble and fall many times but NEVER gives up until he succeeds.

Always remember, ultimately, to never follow any person's belief. Your relationship with God is between you and God.

If nothing else, remember this: religion = subservience, control and conformity, the same template as EVERY government

"Most believers would kill truth if truth threatened their religion." L. K. Washburn

"This crime called blasphemy was invented by priests for the purpose of defending doctrines not able to take care of themselves." Robert Ingersoll

"If anyone wants to know how God feels, it's a warm light as if the sun is poking through dark clouds and lifting your spirits with pure joy."
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A cut ....good one. I never thought about that.
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It's pretty ridiculous how the players get treated when you think about it. They can't even hold a job for goodness sake. How are they supposed to be living on so little? The NCAA makes so much off of them, yet if the players get even a small amount of money or something, suddenly it's a criminal act. I'd contend it's the NCAA that is the criminal here, not the players.
No one is perfect. A babe before walking will first stumble and fall many times but NEVER gives up until he succeeds.

Always remember, ultimately, to never follow any person's belief. Your relationship with God is between you and God.

If nothing else, remember this: religion = subservience, control and conformity, the same template as EVERY government

"Most believers would kill truth if truth threatened their religion." L. K. Washburn

"This crime called blasphemy was invented by priests for the purpose of defending doctrines not able to take care of themselves." Robert Ingersoll

"If anyone wants to know how God feels, it's a warm light as if the sun is poking through dark clouds and lifting your spirits with pure joy."
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A cut ....good one. I never thought about that.
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It's pretty ridiculous how the players get treated when you think about it. They can't even hold a job for goodness sake. How are they supposed to be living on so little? The NCAA makes so much off of them, yet if the players get even a small amount of money or something, suddenly it's a criminal act. I'd contend it's the NCAA that is the criminal here, not the players.
 Quoting: ajk


Yeah, they need some spending money just like everyone else. Being that the NCAA is so strict, I just wonder how much time the coaches spend going over the rules with the players. If they talk about it briefly and then just hand them a list of rules, then considering the consequences, then that is not enough. College students have text books and all sorts of other things they have to read, so maybe they don't get read at all.

With all the illegal things that players get themselves involved with, I don't see how selling gifts should be considered as serious.
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Re: My team is doomed because of the NCAA
a 100,000 dollar education(FOOD,BOOKS,HOUSING,included)is a pretty big gift in itself.
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Re: My team is doomed because of the NCAA
a 100,000 dollar education(FOOD,BOOKS,HOUSING,included)is a pretty big gift in itself.
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Yes, that's true. I didn't get a deal like that.
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Re: My team is doomed because of the NCAA
I'm super doomed then...UM...

At least you bought pryor...auburn bought newton..

all we got was crappy jacory harris
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the ncaa is a giant scam anyways. OU you remember the championship game you stole from us? Remember the way Willis Mcgahee's knee twisted 180 degrees? Fortunately after rehab he was still able to play in the nfl. If not the U made millions of dollars off him, jersey sells, merchandise, yet student athletes don't get a dime, and if they are injured... too bad so sad

f the ncaa
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Maybe.....if it is too tempting for the players then perhaps the university should cease giving gifts that players can sell. This won't prevent problems with gifts from boosters of course, but since it seems the NCAA has no plan to evaluate its rules, maybe this would help a little.

On the other hand, maybe some of the players are really motivated by receiving golden pants for beating Michigan.
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Re: My team is doomed because of the NCAA
the ncaa is a giant scam anyways. OU you remember the championship game you stole from us? Remember the way Willis Mcgahee's knee twisted 180 degrees? Fortunately after rehab he was still able to play in the nfl. If not the U made millions of dollars off him, jersey sells, merchandise, yet student athletes don't get a dime, and if they are injured... too bad so sad

f the ncaa
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1519986


Stole...what an interesting perspective...lol!

Yes, we should follow the money. Our interim coach's salary jumped from $250,000 to $700,000. And the bonuses for beating U of M are very high. The $700,000 is nothing compared to what a longer term successful coach like Tressel made. Compare that to what the professors make. And then with all the sales and TV profits, you would think the poor students who aren't on scholarship could attend the university without accumulating massive debt.

What percentage of profit goes to the NCAA?

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a 100,000 dollar education(FOOD,BOOKS,HOUSING,included)is a pretty big gift in itself.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1532958


That only goes so far, they still gotta be able to survive and many struggle to, which is why you see all these problems to begin with.
No one is perfect. A babe before walking will first stumble and fall many times but NEVER gives up until he succeeds.

Always remember, ultimately, to never follow any person's belief. Your relationship with God is between you and God.

If nothing else, remember this: religion = subservience, control and conformity, the same template as EVERY government

"Most believers would kill truth if truth threatened their religion." L. K. Washburn

"This crime called blasphemy was invented by priests for the purpose of defending doctrines not able to take care of themselves." Robert Ingersoll

"If anyone wants to know how God feels, it's a warm light as if the sun is poking through dark clouds and lifting your spirits with pure joy."
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Re: My team is doomed because of the NCAA
the ncaa is a giant scam anyways. OU you remember the championship game you stole from us? Remember the way Willis Mcgahee's knee twisted 180 degrees? Fortunately after rehab he was still able to play in the nfl. If not the U made millions of dollars off him, jersey sells, merchandise, yet student athletes don't get a dime, and if they are injured... too bad so sad

f the ncaa
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1519986


Stole...what an interesting perspective...lol!

Yes, we should follow the money. Our interim coach's salary jumped from $250,000 to $700,000. And the bonuses for beating U of M are very high. The $700,000 is nothing compared to what a longer term successful coaches like Tressel made. Compare that to what the professors make. And then with all the sales and TV profits, you would think the poor students who aren't on scholarship can only attend the university by accumulating massive debt.
 Quoting: Jenann


A lot of people end up in debt through college to begin with.......but that's a topic all to itself.
No one is perfect. A babe before walking will first stumble and fall many times but NEVER gives up until he succeeds.

Always remember, ultimately, to never follow any person's belief. Your relationship with God is between you and God.

If nothing else, remember this: religion = subservience, control and conformity, the same template as EVERY government

"Most believers would kill truth if truth threatened their religion." L. K. Washburn

"This crime called blasphemy was invented by priests for the purpose of defending doctrines not able to take care of themselves." Robert Ingersoll

"If anyone wants to know how God feels, it's a warm light as if the sun is poking through dark clouds and lifting your spirits with pure joy."
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Re: My team is doomed because of the NCAA
the ncaa is a giant scam anyways. OU you remember the championship game you stole from us? Remember the way Willis Mcgahee's knee twisted 180 degrees? Fortunately after rehab he was still able to play in the nfl. If not the U made millions of dollars off him, jersey sells, merchandise, yet student athletes don't get a dime, and if they are injured... too bad so sad

f the ncaa
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1519986


I remember reading they were claiming something like 99 percent of their revenue came from the NCAA basketball tournament or March Madness. Yeah right!
No one is perfect. A babe before walking will first stumble and fall many times but NEVER gives up until he succeeds.

Always remember, ultimately, to never follow any person's belief. Your relationship with God is between you and God.

If nothing else, remember this: religion = subservience, control and conformity, the same template as EVERY government

"Most believers would kill truth if truth threatened their religion." L. K. Washburn

"This crime called blasphemy was invented by priests for the purpose of defending doctrines not able to take care of themselves." Robert Ingersoll

"If anyone wants to know how God feels, it's a warm light as if the sun is poking through dark clouds and lifting your spirits with pure joy."
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Hi Tex, for the life of me I can't remember what the M stands for.





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