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User ID: 1535150 United States 09/06/2011 10:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | WE ARE ALL DEAD! Life is short.....live it with ecstasy! Intuition is a status of mind to live by. The most destructive lies we tell are the ones we tell ourselves. Once you stop this behavior things begin to change. The universe embraces you and gives you the courage, forbearance, faith, hope and love to move up the staircase. It's enLightening. Changing the world one person at a time. I II IIII IIIIIIII IIIIIIIIIIIIIII THE DOOR OF DOOM HAS BEEN BOLWN OEPN AND TREHE IS A GIPANG HLOE IN JAAPN! "One day your life will flash before your eyes. Make sure it's worth watching." -- Gerard Way |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1338801 Brazil 09/06/2011 10:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Folks, In light of all the discussion, I sense a connection between this and the galactic alignment, which is approximately a 26000 years cycle. And since plutonium has a half life of 24000 years, I suspect the Mayans were correct in their doom prediction. Have a nice day and enjoy the slow death. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1536367 United Kingdom 09/06/2011 10:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | To detox plutonium: Chlorella [coriander leaves] Apple cider vinegar Possibly ozonated water? Ginger Turmeric Garlic Rosemary . The notion is that Vinegar corrodes metals Chlorella transports them out into bladder Piss piss piss The others will help. Ozonated water breaks down synthetic compounds Rosemary/coriander heal radiation damage rather well. |
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User ID: 1525377 Australia 09/06/2011 10:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | People won't understand the true impact of this catastrophe until the Plutonium deaths start to rack up. There are hot particles ticking away inside people in a large part of the Northern Hemisphere, it's just a matter of a short time until the cancers develop. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1536666 The world is going to be a very unhappy place in 5 years time. +1 |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 1393568 United States 09/06/2011 10:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Tacomagroove [link to www.ccnr.org] America wake up and smell the Plutonium… How much plutonium does it take to overdose a person? Foreword Plutonium is a highly toxic material. Attempts to deny or to obscure this fact are, we feel, irresponsible. Some spokespersons for AECL and for the Government of Canada have suggested that there is no danger involved in MOX transport worthy of anyone’s serious consideration. We feel compelled to point out that, although the probability of a severe accident that would release plutonium to the atmosphere is admittedly small, the potential health and environmental consequences of such an accident can be serious due to the extraordinary toxicity of plutonium when inhaled. It is for this reason alone that the United States of America has made it illegal to transport plutonium by air in US territory. Such a prohibition does not exist for any other radioactive material. Atomic Energy of Canada Limited has admitted, in documents submitted to Transport Canada, that in four out of eight categories of serious road transportation accidents, the MOX containers would be completely destroyed and a plume of plutonium dust would be spread downwind to a distance of about 80 kilometers. Transport Canada has stated — not once, but several times, in its response to public commentaries about AECL’s plans for MOX transport by road — that transporting MOX by air is much more dangerous than doing it by road because of the health dangers of inhaling plutonium dust following an accident. Industry and government spokespersons have insisted that120 grams of plutonium is too small an amount to raise legitimate health and environmental concerns. They have made the irrelevant observation that 120 grams of plutonium is about the size of two A-A batteries. Such remarks are manipulative in nature; they do not help people to weigh the risk. The important quantity is not the VOLUME or MASS of plutonium, but its TOXICITY. Based on data supplied by AECB (see letter above) we can address the toxicity question as follows: In principle, using AECB’s regulatory limits, how many ”civilians” can be overdosed by 100 grams of plutonium? 0.1 micrograms can overdose One civilian 0.1 grams can overdose One million civilians 1 gram can overdose ten million civilians 100 grams can overdose one billion civilians 600 grams can overdose six billion civilians If there is a serious accident involving Read more@ [link to www.ccnr.org] Last Edited by Account Deleted by User on 09/07/2011 12:53 AM |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 1393568 United States 09/06/2011 10:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Tacomagroove Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1393568 [link to www.ccnr.org] America wake up and smell the Plutonium… How much plutonium does it take to overdose a person? Foreword Plutonium is a highly toxic material. Attempts to deny or to obscure this fact are, we feel, irresponsible. Some spokespersons for AECL and for the Government of Canada have suggested that there is no danger involved in MOX transport worthy of anyone’s serious consideration. We feel compelled to point out that, although the probability of a severe accident that would release plutonium to the atmosphere is admittedly small, the potential health and environmental consequences of such an accident can be serious due to the extraordinary toxicity of plutonium when inhaled. It is for this reason alone that the United States of America has made it illegal to transport plutonium by air in US territory. Such a prohibition does not exist for any other radioactive material. Atomic Energy of Canada Limited has admitted, in documents submitted to Transport Canada, that in four out of eight categories of serious road transportation accidents, the MOX containers would be completely destroyed and a plume of plutonium dust would be spread downwind to a distance of about 80 kilometers. Transport Canada has stated — not once, but several times, in its response to public commentaries about AECL’s plans for MOX transport by road — that transporting MOX by air is much more dangerous than doing it by road because of the health dangers of inhaling plutonium dust following an accident. Industry and government spokespersons have insisted that120 grams of plutonium is too small an amount to raise legitimate health and environmental concerns. They have made the irrelevant observation that 120 grams of plutonium is about the size of two A-A batteries. Such remarks are manipulative in nature; they do not help people to weigh the risk. The important quantity is not the VOLUME or MASS of plutonium, but its TOXICITY. Based on data supplied by AECB (see letter above) we can address the toxicity question as follows: In principle, using AECB’s regulatory limits, how many ”civilians” can be overdosed by 100 grams of plutonium? 0.1 micrograms can overdose One civilian 0.1 grams can overdose One million civilians 1 gram can overdose ten million civilians 100 grams can overdose one billion civilians 600 grams can overdose six billion civilians If there is a serious accident involving 120 grams of plutonium (in the form of MOX), how many civilian overdoses could, in principle, result? if NONE of the plutonium is safely contained there is a potential for one billion two hundred million civilian overdoses. if 90 percent of it is safely contained there is a potential for one hundred and twenty million civilian overdoses. if 99.9 percent of it is safely contained there is a potential for one hundred and twenty thousand civilian overdoses. if 99.999 percent of it is safely contained there is a potential for one thousand two hundred civilian overdoses. In principle, using AECB’s regulatory limits, how many ”atomic radiation workers” can be overdosed by 140 grams of plutonium? 1.4 micrograms can overdose one atomic worker 1.4 grams can overdose one million workers 14 grams can overdose ten million workers 140 grams can overdose one hundred million workers 560 grams can overdose four hundred million workers If there is a serious accident involving 600 grams of plutonium (in the form of MOX), how many worker overdoses could, in principle, result? if NONE of the plute is safely contained there is a potential for four hundred twenty-five million worker overdoses if 90 percent of it is safely contained there is a potential for forty-two and a half million worker overdoses if 99.9 percent of it is safely contained there is a potential for forty-two and a half thousand worker overdoses if 99.999 percent of it is safely contained there is a potential for four hundred and twenty-five worker overdoses If there is a serious accident involving 600 grams of plutonium (in the form of MOX), how many civilian overdoses could, in principle, result? if NONE of the plute is safely contained there is a potential for six billion civilian overdoses if 90 percent of it is safely contained there is a potential for six hundred million civilian overdoses if 99.9 percent of it is safely contained there is a potential for six hundred thousand civilian overdoses if 99.999 percent of it is safely contained there is a potential for six thousand civilian overdoses Each fuel rod contains 20% plutonium. There are 360 fuel pellets per rod. Estimated weight of pellets are 5 grams. There are 264 fuel rods per assembly… So. 264 x 360 =95,040 (total fuel pellets per fuel assembly) 95,040 x 5 grams = 475,200 grams of nuclear fuel… Divide 475,000 By 20% to find the quantity of plutonium… 475,000g x 0.20 (20%) = 95,040 grams of plutonium… (per fuel assembly)… [link to my.firedoglake.com] We’d be lucky if we only had to worry about the spent fuel rods from a single holding pool. We’re not that lucky. The Fukushima Daiichi plant has seven pools for spent fuel rods. Six of these are (or were) located at the top of six reactor buildings. One “common pool” is at ground level in a separate building. Each “reactor top” pool holds 3450 fuel rod assemblies. The common pool holds 6291 fuel rod assemblies. [The common pool has windows on one wall which were almost certainly destroyed by the tsunami.] Each assembly holds two hundred sixty-three fuel rods. This means the Fukushima Daiichi plant may contain over 600,000 spent fuel rods. So top fuel pool holds 3450 assemblies, common fuel pool holds 6291 assemblies… Total: 9741 assemblies x 95,040g plutonium = total =925,784,640g plutonium (in reactor 3 alone)… now it gets fun… 925,784,640g plutonium / 10% = 92,578,464g plutonium 1.0g plutonium is equal to ten million Overdose’s… 92,578,464g plutonium x 10 million Overdoses =’s Now if only 10% of the fuel in reactor 3 escaped… 927,584,640,000,000 Overdoses Globally Cheers, Emmy… p.s. 1% is simply taking off 1, zero off the end... So if only 1% of reactor 3 was released... 92,758,464,000,000 overdoses 0.1% of fuel released would be 9,275,846,400,000 overdoses... So in that case if only 1 millionth of the fuel was release respectably, 9,275,846 would be potentially affected. Though the likely hood of this is a theoretical impossibility... Due to the amounts of radiation released to date, one can be and should be certain that at least 10 pounds of plutonium was released in March 2011... 2800 grams per pound (roughly). - 10 million overdoses per gram... 28,000,000,000 Overdoses. For some reason the original article was turnicated... here is the full piece... |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 1393568 United States 09/06/2011 10:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I reposted this (the full version) here: Thread: Plutonium Japan and You. Fukushima info you need to know!!! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1499340 United States 09/06/2011 11:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | op thank ou for the info...i'm super obsessed w/ this situation & think you are probably right... i was wondering where in usa the plutonium has been found. what about canada? i'm the woman who packed her car & bf up 2 days after fuka happened & took off from portland or. & took refuge in michigan for 2 weeks until we had to go back or all would be lost(getting out of dodge thread) & all kinds of people thought i was crazy. unfortunately, my bf & i have had all those symptoms & are healthy otherwise... now thinking of leaving portland again to not get slammed by incoming 9 monthes of rain... researched everywhere to go from paraguay to austalia & it turns out florida orlando area is probably where we'll go @ the end of this month(to be near family & out of the rain...)i know fla. is BAD. i just might be happier there. i would appreciate any suggestions of where to go. |
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User ID: 1538287 United States 09/06/2011 11:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Why isn't our government monitoring/announcing radiation levels and announcing them on a regular basis? Here ya go everyone! Wonder why they're not telling us? August, 2011 "Fukushima Media Coverage May Be Harmful To Health....Psychological Consequences." [link to www.newscientist.com] |
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(OP) User ID: 1393568 United States 09/06/2011 11:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | op thank ou for the info...i'm super obsessed w/ this situation & think you are probably right... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1499340 i was wondering where in usa the plutonium has been found. what about canada? i'm the woman who packed her car & bf up 2 days after fuka happened & took off from portland or. & took refuge in michigan for 2 weeks until we had to go back or all would be lost(getting out of dodge thread) & all kinds of people thought i was crazy. unfortunately, my bf & i have had all those symptoms & are healthy otherwise... now thinking of leaving portland again to not get slammed by incoming 9 monthes of rain... researched everywhere to go from paraguay to austalia & it turns out florida orlando area is probably where we'll go @ the end of this month(to be near family & out of the rain...)i know fla. is BAD. i just might be happier there. i would appreciate any suggestions of where to go. Plutonium is very hard to detect (an alpha emitter)... If it were in your water and you used a geiger counter (the geiger counter) would more probably not detect it. Official sources have found PL - 239 in TX, WA, OR, CA, And NM. Though it has also been located in both Europe, and I believe, in Russia... (also japan but kinda a no brainier). I'd suggest south / and high latitude... But I also suggest staying put... Its likely to have contaminated the entire planet at this point... So naturally there may be no place to run... Radiation has the ability to contaminate the entire planet (in an instant). So given the 5 month advantage its had, I assure you that anywhere above 5000ft you will find high levels of PL, CS, and IO. Amongst other known isotopes... (see alpha beta and gamma emitters...) via wikipedia... |
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User ID: 1537979 Canada 09/06/2011 11:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Why isn't our government monitoring/announcing radiation levels and announcing them on a regular basis? Here ya go everyone! Wonder why they're not telling us? August, 2011 "Fukushima Media Coverage May Be Harmful To Health....Psychological Consequences." [link to www.newscientist.com] Crowd control. Writer's Block |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1294656 United States 09/06/2011 11:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | please link to official sources of plutonium found in the US. Also I should mention to people that everything that is absorbed into your body is usually filtered out. So breathing in 1 hot particle isn't going to be guaranteed death. Your body can rid itself of that dust particle you inhaled, swallowed, etc. |
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(OP) User ID: 1393568 United States 09/06/2011 11:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | please link to official sources of plutonium found in the US. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1294656 Also I should mention to people that everything that is absorbed into your body is usually filtered out. So breathing in 1 hot particle isn't going to be guaranteed death. Your body can rid itself of that dust particle you inhaled, swallowed, etc. If you read my previous posts on glp. You will find my sources. However Los Alamos Nuclear lab is one source that detected Plutonium (consistent) with the fukushima crisis... Another source is Berkeley University CA. Seattle Cancer Care WA. Avera France (intl) Tepco (japan) ect ect ect... You seem to have a problem with these findings... Is it of shock to you that plutonium has been detected? Also I never made a statement such as EVERYONE that comes into contact will perish. So I would appreciate it if you wouldn't assume what is not being implied. What you are implying is That you personally have an issue with these findings. One that Only YOU can explain... To me that is something to take note of... |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1361338 United States 09/07/2011 12:03 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Tacoma Thanks for posting. I live in western Washington and have a SOEKS geiger with nitrate tester (ecotester). It does not detect alpha emitters but does BETA and GAMMA. Every few minutes or so it will read HIGH RADIATION BACKGROUND with readings from .47 to .95 MCSV/hour sitting in my windowsill. Are these jumps from .08 to .95 hot particles? |
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(OP) User ID: 1393568 United States 09/07/2011 12:14 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | FYI In only a few months time winter will come. Pneumonia will likely be a heavy burden attributing to our already weakened lung chemistry. Once the snow pack sets in, Trillions of ionizing radiation particles will be brought down in a horrific nuclear winter… Shaking, fevers, congestion, aching bodies, & Sore throats will be our first indication that the harmful bioaccumulations of radionuclides is present… Eventually our immune systems will decline to a sort of paradigm shift. What once used to heal our bodies of infections and diseases, will hamper our health even further as it attempts to rid us of our radiotoxins. Come spring after the cold melts away ground water resting below our soil will obtain a level of MASS CONTAMINATION. Eventually leading to the nurturing of organic matter, heavily altered from its original genetic composition. This same contaminated organic matter will be what we use to feed our nations live stock. Our soils accumulative absorption of radiation; will sooner than not: plague our crops, irradiate our loved ones, and eventually cause mass pandemic. By February, of 2012, International governments will begin to effectively monitor the damage of 2011 alone… Issues will be raised, fingers will be pointed… Too little too late. We had and have a very limited amount of time to act on fukushima. If the reactors continue to create airborne radiation plumes; This in addition to the burning of radioactive materials. This winter will be all that I promised A NUCLEAR ONE. I heavily advise all enenews users, to have both food and water, as well as any other emergency supplies prior to Oct 2011. In my opinion, the coming winter will we horrific. Trust your own instincts. & as always cheers Emmy. 2011 |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 1393568 United States 09/07/2011 01:00 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Tacoma Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1361338 Thanks for posting. I live in western Washington and have a SOEKS geiger with nitrate tester (ecotester). It does not detect alpha emitters but does BETA and GAMMA. Every few minutes or so it will read HIGH RADIATION BACKGROUND with readings from .47 to .95 MCSV/hour sitting in my windowsill. Are these jumps from .08 to .95 hot particles? If it penetrates through a layer of glass its likely gamma radiation. If a hot particle came within range Yes, the meter would show a spike of radioactivity. (mainly this determines That a radioactive isotope has come within range). However it in no way tells you anything in respects to the type of the isotope, or the level of toxicity it represents... So yes it is likely reading and reporting the finding of a gamma emitting substance (As it clearly is penetrating through a layer of mass)... Beta is known to also penetrate mass (although not as well as gamma). Though in order to get a stable reading you would have to contain the isotope Or find the exact location to monitor its level of toxicity... "As particles are aloft in the wind so you will only see a spike temporarily; As it passes within your counters range..." |