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THIS JUST IN!!! NY Judge: Carrying a Gun is a Privilege, Need to Prove Why You Need It

 
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I'm playing cowboys and Indians,hows that for a reason you asshat?
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In NYC, this is the law...you must show cause to carry.
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Unless you're a drug dealer.
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chuckleohyeah

Yep, and I'll bet said judge gets 24/7 police protection so he doesn't have to worry about the right of the average citizen to protect his or her self.

Fuck him.
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THERE IT IS!!!!!!
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Living on the east coast seems to me to meet the letter of their goofy laws.

Our poor east coast brethern suffer the illogical idiocy of their electedand or appointed officials.

Go west young men and women..
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To All, NO INFRINGEMENT ,UNDERSTAND,NO INFRINGEMENT ,anyone understand what NO means .The God given Unalienable right shall NOT BE INFRINGED.Unless you admit to being a VOTER,a CITIZEN OF THE U.S.A. ,a TAXPAYER, a RESIDENT, a DRIVER, a HUNTER, a FISHERMAN,a MARRIED PERSON,a PERSON , Sign any government form and become a LEGAL FICTION, ETC. the white rose
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Meanwhile Holder and Obama use tax-dollars to buy guns for drug cartel members!

Is this the twilight zone? I actually think I'm in it.

wtf
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Propaganda anybody?
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what happened to the constitution?
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The so called piece of paper you call the Constitution has been gone for decades. Freedom died in 1913 when the Fed took over. Gold and Silver standard is gone. The Gov owns all land in the US. We rent from them. They will take your property if you do not pay property tax.

The US went Bankrupt in 1933. James Trafficant went to Prison for mentioning this.

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We are slaves.

Peace to all.
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To All, NO INFRINGEMENT ,UNDERSTAND,NO INFRINGEMENT ,anyone understand what NO means .The God given Unalienable right shall NOT BE INFRINGED.Unless you admit to being a VOTER,a CITIZEN OF THE U.S.A. ,a TAXPAYER, a RESIDENT, a DRIVER, a HUNTER, a FISHERMAN,a MARRIED PERSON,a PERSON , Sign any government form and become a LEGAL FICTION, ETC. the white rose
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well said!!
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what happened to the constitution?
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Obama has been tearing it in strips to wipe his ass.


There may be some left come 2012, but if he get in for another 4 years, you may as well call him Stalin.

There won't be a constitution left.
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Right....Obama is the problem in the USA. ROFL
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White Plains is well above NYC. The judge is a woman an an ass. By her own reasoning if she ever defends herself she should be found guilty of murder.
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He has no authority over the 2nd amendment. That shit isn't up for debate.
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"Better to have a gun and not need it than to not have one and need it."
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I think everyone should be required to carry a gun. think about it for awhile.
Guns do not cause crime, criminals do, and if you disarm the law abiding people with gun laws the oly people left who will have guns is people who are criminals and don't respect the law. makes no sense. Gun laws are communism. Nanny state shit, and btt the police arrive , you're bled out.
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I think everyone should be required to carry a gun. think about it for awhile.
Guns do not cause crime, criminals do, and if you disarm the law abiding people with gun laws the oly people left who will have guns is people who are criminals and don't respect the law. makes no sense. Gun laws are communism. Nanny state shit, and btt the police arrive , you're bled out.
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...and if you're not already fatally wounded, the fucking cops might finish the job.
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Personally I think people who feel a need to walk around packing iron all day, when they aren't in any kind of dangerous occupation that would warrant it.. are people with mental instabilities or deep insecurity issues.
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Personally I think I have a word to describe what might come of you one day: VICTIM
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In NYC, this is the law...you must show cause to carry.
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Unless you're a drug dealer.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1537742


In NYC, this is the law...you must show cause to carry.
 Quoting: Buster Brown


Unless you're a drug dealer.
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clappa
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To All, NO INFRINGEMENT ,UNDERSTAND,NO INFRINGEMENT ,anyone understand what NO means .The God given Unalienable right shall NOT BE INFRINGED.Unless you admit to being a VOTER,a CITIZEN OF THE U.S.A. ,a TAXPAYER, a RESIDENT, a DRIVER, a HUNTER, a FISHERMAN,a MARRIED PERSON,a PERSON , Sign any government form and become a LEGAL FICTION, ETC. the white rose
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Spot on....rights are inherent, privileges are granted.
Enjoin with the USA corporation and you will need to abide by their rules. You are contracted with them.

As a Sovereign/Director/Administrator of your corporation (legal person) you dictate your own acts and rules. The government agent/employee is inferior. You have not contracted with the government, and could care less about their policies - that's their business; not yours. Any action by the government upon you results in them paying your fee schedule.
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Let's get judge behind bars where she belongs. Enough gun laws already.
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Back in the 90's I was trying to get a carry permit for NYC.....I was told its runs about 30K in lawyer fees to petition for the permit....
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I think everyone should be required to carry a gun. think about it for awhile.
Guns do not cause crime, criminals do, and if you disarm the law abiding people with gun laws the oly people left who will have guns is people who are criminals and don't respect the law. makes no sense. Gun laws are communism. Nanny state shit, and btt the police arrive , you're bled out.
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That was much more succinctly stated in a bumper sticker from the 80s:

"If you outlaw guns, only outlaws will have them."
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This is just another prime example of why people need to start waking up! YOUR freedoms are going away, slipping right through the cracks and we still sleep!

Coming soon to a town near you!!!!!


"No Cause, No Gun, Judge Tells Gun Lovers"

Apparently we now have to prove what we need our guns for...

Anybody else find this sickening! Just read this article for a tiny example of what we not hearing on the news!

I give any credit from this article to Courthouse New Services- Direct link in on the bottom!

" WHITE PLAINS, N.Y. (CN) - Five Westchester residents and the Second Amendment Foundation cannot relax a law forcing citizens to demonstrate proper cause before they pack heat on public streets, a federal judge ruled.
New York courts have interpreted "proper cause" as having a "special need for self-protection" as compared to the general population.
"I hold that the state has an important government interest in promoting public safety and preventing crime," U.S. District Judge Cathy Seibel wrote in an order dismissing a class action challenging the regulation.
Alan Kachalsky, Christina Nikolov, Eric Detmer, Johnnie Nance and Anna Marcucci-Nance say their applications for full-carry permits were rejected, even though they had all been trained in firearms and had spotless criminal records.
Kachalsky claimed he had proper cause because "we live in a world where sporadic random violence might at any moment place one in a position where one needs to defend oneself or possibly others," court documents say.
Judge Susan Cacace, his licensing officer, found that this explanation did not distinguish him from anybody else seeking a permit.
Nikolov said she deserved a license because she passed three firearms safety courses with the National Rifle Association, showed a "calm demeanor" as a pilot and flight instructor, and had a higher likelihood of being the victim of violence as a transgender woman.
Rejecting her request, Judge Jeffrey A. Cohen explained that a specific threat of violence against her was "conspicuously absent" from her application.
Nance and Marcucci-Nance cited no special needs for full-carry permits, Judge Robert K. Holdman found.
Detmer thought he satisfied the proper cause requirement as a federal law enforcement officer with the U.S. Coast Guard, but Judge Albert Lorenzo said his application contained "no justification" for a full-carry permit.
Gaining the support of the Second Amendment Foundation, the five applicants filed a federal class action lawsuit against Westchester County and the four judges serving as licensing officers in late 2010.
On Friday, Judge Seibel agreed that the plaintiffs had standing to pursue the case, but she granted summary judgment to the defendants sua sponte on the grounds that the state had the duty to protect public safety.
In a footnote, she noted that the state attorneys argued in affidavits that gun crimes are linked to general availability, and citizens with concealed handguns can endanger cops stopping them.
An affidavit also said that the "majority of criminal homicides and other serious crimes are committed by individuals who have not been convicted of a felony and would receive permits to carry concealed weapons without the 'proper cause' requirement."
Data from the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives showed that 227 firearms were recovered during the first half of 2009 in Westchester, more than double those recovered in nearby Orange County and several times more than those recovered in Dutchess, Rockland, Sullivan and Putnam.
The report also cited 132 weapon offenses in the Westchester region.
Judge Seibel entered the 60-page opinion on Friday, preceding a particularly bloody Labor Day weekend in which 48 people were shot in New York City. Mayor Mike Bloomberg called for stricter gun-control laws Tuesday. "

[link to www.courthousenews.com]
 Quoting: haarp-acane


This is why I will only live in a Shall Issue state.


OMFG! What a crock of shit! In states that have Concealed Carry Permits the crime rate is lower and those who have said permits are LAW ABIDING!
I've also spoken to many in law enforcement who were thankful there was a citizen nearby who was carrying.

NY is a state full of people who don't understand normal thinking
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Meanwhile Holder and Obama use tax-dollars to buy guns for drug cartel members!

Is this the twilight zone? I actually think I'm in it.

wtf
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Keep it up. You just made the list. of best posts of the day.
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Here you go:

“Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or
prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of
the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the
government for a redress of grievances.”-Bill of Rights Amendment I

“A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the
right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed.”-Bill of
Rights Amendment II

“The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and
effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and
no warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by oath or
affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the
persons or things to be seized.”-Bill of Rights Amendment IV

“A free people ought not only to be armed and disciplined, but they should have
sufficient arms and ammunition to maintain a status of independence from any who
might attempt to abuse them, which would include their own government”-George
Washington

“Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety
deserve neither Liberty nor Safety”-Benjamin Franklin

“When firearms go, all goes. We need them every hour.”-George Washington

“Americans have the right and advantage of being armed – unlike the citizens of
other countries whose governments are afraid to trust the people with
arms.”-James Madison

“When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government
fears the people, there is liberty. “-Thomas Jefferson

“The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms
is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in
government.”-Thomas Jefferson

“I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the government
from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of taking care of
them.”-Thomas Jefferson

“No freeman shall be debarred the use of arms.”-Thomas Jefferson

“This country, with its institutions, belongs to the people who inhabit it.
Whenever they shall grow weary of the existing government, they can exercise
their constitutional right of amending it, or their revolutionary right to
dismember or overthrow it.”-Abraham Lincoln

“A government that does not trust it’s law-abiding citizens to keep and bear
arms is itself unworthy of trust.”-James Madison

“Firearms stand next in importance to the constitution itself. They are the
American people’s liberty teeth and the keystone under independence… The rifle
and pistol are equally indispensable… The very atmosphere of firearms anywhere
and everywhere restrains evil interference – they deserve a place of honor with
all that is good.”-George Washington
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A gun can stop a home intruder faster than the police can arrive.
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To defend my rights. Proof enough.
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On Friday, Judge Seibel agreed that the plaintiffs had standing to pursue the case, but she granted summary judgment to the defendants sua sponte on the grounds that the state had the duty to protect public safety.
In a footnote, she noted that the state attorneys argued in affidavits that gun crimes are linked to general availability, and citizens with concealed handguns can endanger cops stopping them.
An affidavit also said that the "majority of criminal homicides and other serious crimes are committed by individuals who have not been convicted of a felony and would receive permits to carry concealed weapons without the 'proper cause' requirement."

[link to www.courthousenews.com]
 Quoting: haarp-acane

This federal judge has been ill-informed in this case. She should have seen the crime statistics of conceal carry in Texas. Law enforcement officers commit more crimes in Texas than do licensed concealed carry individuals.

To wit: [link to www.txdps.state.tx.us]
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Cause: For the security of a free state. I don't need to state it, the Constitution already states it.
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He has no authority over the 2nd amendment. That shit isn't up for debate.
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To All,The ignorant ones signed on the dotted line giving jurisdiction to the commie judge.Look at the signature line on bank checks and government forms upside down with a strong magnifier,you will be amazed.the white rose
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I carry my gun because I have the right to protect myself and the well being of my country whenever the need arises.
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In NYC, this is the law...you must show cause to carry.
 Quoting: Buster Brown


Most people have ZERO need to walk around with a concealed handgun. Having one in your home, to defend your family against home invaders is a different story, but it must be a pretty sad existence to feel the need to pack heat whenever one leaves the house.

Let's talk about two recent incidents: The Giffords shooting and the IHOP thing that happened yesterday. In both cases they interviewed people who were at the scene that had lawfully concealed handguns. In the former case, the guy said he never drew his because he feared that police would show up and shoot HIM in the chaos, and in the latter case the guy said he considered drawing but did not (and subsequently regretted it).

So, we have people who were probably stroking their dicks in anticpation of one day being a "Taxi Driver" style vigilante hero, and then when they day came they found out that their precious little gun did them no good at all...
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It is a sorry thing that the mere OPINION of some of these miscreants is taken as final authority.
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In NYC, this is the law...you must show cause to carry.
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Most people have ZERO need to walk around with a concealed handgun. Having one in your home, to defend your family against home invaders is a different story, but it must be a pretty sad existence to feel the need to pack heat whenever one leaves the house.

Let's talk about two recent incidents: The Giffords shooting and the IHOP thing that happened yesterday. In both cases they interviewed people who were at the scene that had lawfully concealed handguns. In the former case, the guy said he never drew his because he feared that police would show up and shoot HIM in the chaos, and in the latter case the guy said he considered drawing but did not (and subsequently regretted it).

So, we have people who were probably stroking their dicks in anticpation of one day being a "Taxi Driver" style vigilante hero, and then when they day came they found out that their precious little gun did them no good at all...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1283316


No, it's because during our training, they pound into our heads that we're not to clear leather until we're sure we have nothing left to lose...because once we draw, we WILL lose everything in civil court. And that's if we're cleared of criminal wrongdoing.

As far as being an armed civilian and shooting someone in defense of another is concerned, it's a very grey area. Even for police, it's a very grey area; the difference is that they have the deep pockets of the taxpayer backing them up in court. Those two permit holders did very well to keep their weapons holstered. There was nothing that could have been done to stop the shooting, anyway...I'm guessing the gunfire only lasted seconds.

Sure, there are probably a few "conceal-carry commandos" out there. But the majority of us are just regular people who recognize that any of us a could be a victim of violent crime, and just want to do what we can to get home to our families at night, and to help keep our loved ones safe.





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