Children to make their own medical decisions without parental consent; CA bill AB499, (Prelude to legal Pedophilia?) | |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1539112 United States 09/16/2011 01:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Children to make their own medical decisions without parental consent; CA bill AB499, (Prelude to legal Pedophilia?) A family member contracted genital warts, even with the use of a condom, so in my opinion, anything that could reduce my child's odds of contracting a disease is a good thing in my book. Not to mention with females there is an increased risk of some types of cervical cancer if they have or have had genital warts. If she were to do something good for her health "behind my back," (prob couldn't happen, but who knows) I would still be proud that I raised a daughter who had her health in top priority. |
Evan03
User ID: 1376616 United States 09/16/2011 01:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Children to make their own medical decisions without parental consent; CA bill AB499, (Prelude to legal Pedophilia?) There are other ways to not get genital warts than getting injected with mercury and other toxins, that can cause neurological disorders or death. Life is tough, but its tougher when you're stupid. -john wayne Truth is the new hate speech in our age of absurdity-Ted Nougat Sarcasm is the body's natural defense against stupid. |
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tinygreen
User ID: 427545 United States 09/16/2011 01:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Children to make their own medical decisions without parental consent; CA bill AB499, (Prelude to legal Pedophilia?) oh no. we force parents to prevent disease. damn that government and its logical policies. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1529819 you are a dumb shit. so many problems come from vaccines. +1 and karma for you, Opie. 'it is not the duty of the police to protect you. their job is to protect THE CORPORATION and arrest code breakers.' (sapp vs tallahassee) |
tinygreen
User ID: 427545 United States 09/16/2011 01:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Children to make their own medical decisions without parental consent; CA bill AB499, (Prelude to legal Pedophilia?) i've already given you karma this week, but will inject you with something good when i can. 'it is not the duty of the police to protect you. their job is to protect THE CORPORATION and arrest code breakers.' (sapp vs tallahassee) |
Evan03
User ID: 1376616 United States 09/16/2011 01:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Children to make their own medical decisions without parental consent; CA bill AB499, (Prelude to legal Pedophilia?) There are other ways to not get genital warts than getting injected with mercury and other toxins, that can cause neurological disorders or death. Quoting: Evan03 Abstinence is great in theory. So are vaccines, until someone gets autism or M.S Life is tough, but its tougher when you're stupid. -john wayne Truth is the new hate speech in our age of absurdity-Ted Nougat Sarcasm is the body's natural defense against stupid. |
Evan03
User ID: 1376616 United States 09/16/2011 01:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Children to make their own medical decisions without parental consent; CA bill AB499, (Prelude to legal Pedophilia?) i've already given you karma this week, but will inject you with something good when i can. Quoting: tinygreen that sounds naughty.... Life is tough, but its tougher when you're stupid. -john wayne Truth is the new hate speech in our age of absurdity-Ted Nougat Sarcasm is the body's natural defense against stupid. |
tinygreen
User ID: 427545 United States 09/16/2011 01:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Children to make their own medical decisions without parental consent; CA bill AB499, (Prelude to legal Pedophilia?) I get my child immunized against anything they've got. I don't get kickbacks from the government to say this, but I do trust that an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure. Quoting: shame_spiral A family member contracted genital warts, even with the use of a condom, so in my opinion, anything that could reduce my child's odds of contracting a disease is a good thing in my book. Not to mention with females there is an increased risk of some types of cervical cancer if they have or have had genital warts. If she were to do something good for her health "behind my back," (prob couldn't happen, but who knows) I would still be proud that I raised a daughter who had her health in top priority. i wish you good luck with that. you should do some reading about thermerisol. seriously. 'it is not the duty of the police to protect you. their job is to protect THE CORPORATION and arrest code breakers.' (sapp vs tallahassee) |
tinygreen
User ID: 427545 United States 09/16/2011 01:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Children to make their own medical decisions without parental consent; CA bill AB499, (Prelude to legal Pedophilia?) i've already given you karma this week, but will inject you with something good when i can. Quoting: tinygreen that sounds naughty.... glad you enjoyed that evan. 'it is not the duty of the police to protect you. their job is to protect THE CORPORATION and arrest code breakers.' (sapp vs tallahassee) |
Evan03
User ID: 1376616 United States 09/16/2011 01:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Children to make their own medical decisions without parental consent; CA bill AB499, (Prelude to legal Pedophilia?) Look the point is, whether you are for vaccines or not, parents should always have the say in what is done to their kids. My child cannot legally sign a contract at 12, if my child damages anothers property at the age of 12, I pay for that. So if my child is going to get vaccinated, I sure as hell better be the one deciding. Life is tough, but its tougher when you're stupid. -john wayne Truth is the new hate speech in our age of absurdity-Ted Nougat Sarcasm is the body's natural defense against stupid. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1539112 United States 09/16/2011 01:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Children to make their own medical decisions without parental consent; CA bill AB499, (Prelude to legal Pedophilia?) There are other ways to not get genital warts than getting injected with mercury and other toxins, that can cause neurological disorders or death. Quoting: Evan03 Abstinence is great in theory. So are vaccines, until someone gets autism or M.S Honestly, I had all my vaccines growing up, plus the ones for Hepatitis B, my husband had all his, our daughter has had all hers. We have had no ill effects in our 30 years or in her almost 4. So maybe there are certain people who are affected by it and others who aren't. I'd still take my chances any day at keeping her safe from known dangers with the minute risk of the unknown. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1539112 United States 09/16/2011 01:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Children to make their own medical decisions without parental consent; CA bill AB499, (Prelude to legal Pedophilia?) Look the point is, whether you are for vaccines or not, parents should always have the say in what is done to their kids. My child cannot legally sign a contract at 12, if my child damages anothers property at the age of 12, I pay for that. So if my child is going to get vaccinated, I sure as hell better be the one deciding. Quoting: Evan03 But what about the parents who are not involved? What about the parents who don't understand any of it, or who won't even talk to their kids about sex? |
Evan03
User ID: 1376616 United States 09/16/2011 01:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Children to make their own medical decisions without parental consent; CA bill AB499, (Prelude to legal Pedophilia?) i've already given you karma this week, but will inject you with something good when i can. Quoting: tinygreen that sounds naughty.... glad you enjoyed that evan. Life is tough, but its tougher when you're stupid. -john wayne Truth is the new hate speech in our age of absurdity-Ted Nougat Sarcasm is the body's natural defense against stupid. |
Evan03
User ID: 1376616 United States 09/16/2011 01:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Children to make their own medical decisions without parental consent; CA bill AB499, (Prelude to legal Pedophilia?) Look the point is, whether you are for vaccines or not, parents should always have the say in what is done to their kids. My child cannot legally sign a contract at 12, if my child damages anothers property at the age of 12, I pay for that. So if my child is going to get vaccinated, I sure as hell better be the one deciding. Quoting: Evan03 But what about the parents who are not involved? What about the parents who don't understand any of it, or who won't even talk to their kids about sex? What about the over protective parent who will not even allow their child to eat gmo food, or drink flouride? How do you think theywould react? my point is their are extremes on both sides of the parenting spectrum. But the majority of people are somewhere in the middle. I doubt the majority of parents would be happy about their child being vaccinated without permission Life is tough, but its tougher when you're stupid. -john wayne Truth is the new hate speech in our age of absurdity-Ted Nougat Sarcasm is the body's natural defense against stupid. |
Evan03
User ID: 1376616 United States 09/16/2011 01:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Children to make their own medical decisions without parental consent; CA bill AB499, (Prelude to legal Pedophilia?) There are other ways to not get genital warts than getting injected with mercury and other toxins, that can cause neurological disorders or death. Quoting: Evan03 Abstinence is great in theory. So are vaccines, until someone gets autism or M.S Honestly, I had all my vaccines growing up, plus the ones for Hepatitis B, my husband had all his, our daughter has had all hers. We have had no ill effects in our 30 years or in her almost 4. So maybe there are certain people who are affected by it and others who aren't. I'd still take my chances any day at keeping her safe from known dangers with the minute risk of the unknown. Exactly, thats YOUR choice.I just don't want the govt making the choice for me. Life is tough, but its tougher when you're stupid. -john wayne Truth is the new hate speech in our age of absurdity-Ted Nougat Sarcasm is the body's natural defense against stupid. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1533774 United States 09/16/2011 01:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Children to make their own medical decisions without parental consent; CA bill AB499, (Prelude to legal Pedophilia?) There are other ways to not get genital warts than getting injected with mercury and other toxins, that can cause neurological disorders or death. Quoting: Evan03 Abstinence is great in theory. So are vaccines, until someone gets autism or M.S Honestly, I had all my vaccines growing up, plus the ones for Hepatitis B, my husband had all his, our daughter has had all hers. We have had no ill effects in our 30 years or in her almost 4. So maybe there are certain people who are affected by it and others who aren't. I'd still take my chances any day at keeping her safe from known dangers with the minute risk of the unknown. Yes, certain people are affected, greatly. "You don't know until you try" but then it's too late. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1533774 United States 09/16/2011 01:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Children to make their own medical decisions without parental consent; CA bill AB499, (Prelude to legal Pedophilia?) Look the point is, whether you are for vaccines or not, parents should always have the say in what is done to their kids. My child cannot legally sign a contract at 12, if my child damages anothers property at the age of 12, I pay for that. So if my child is going to get vaccinated, I sure as hell better be the one deciding. Quoting: Evan03 But what about the parents who are not involved? What about the parents who don't understand any of it, or who won't even talk to their kids about sex? Fine, give a parental notification and opt-out. If the parents don't do anything, maybe then the school could vaccinate. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1539112 United States 09/16/2011 01:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Children to make their own medical decisions without parental consent; CA bill AB499, (Prelude to legal Pedophilia?) Honestly, I had all my vaccines growing up, plus the ones for Hepatitis B, my husband had all his, our daughter has had all hers. We have had no ill effects in our 30 years or in her almost 4. So maybe there are certain people who are affected by it and others who aren't. I'd still take my chances any day at keeping her safe from known dangers with the minute risk of the unknown. Exactly, thats YOUR choice.I just don't want the govt making the choice for me. Where exactly is it that you think we live?? |
MamaHasAwakened
User ID: 1515402 United States 09/16/2011 01:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Children to make their own medical decisions without parental consent; CA bill AB499, (Prelude to legal Pedophilia?) The choice on both sides should come down to the parent. I am not totally anti vaccinations, but when there is autism in the family, I should have every right to make the decisions what goes in my child's body and not be FORCED by law to do it. Having the nurse at the pediatrician's look at you like you are an evil parent is enough when I decline the flu shot! |
Evan03
User ID: 1376616 United States 09/16/2011 01:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Children to make their own medical decisions without parental consent; CA bill AB499, (Prelude to legal Pedophilia?) The choice on both sides should come down to the parent. I am not totally anti vaccinations, but when there is autism in the family, I should have every right to make the decisions what goes in my child's body and not be FORCED by law to do it. Having the nurse at the pediatrician's look at you like you are an evil parent is enough when I decline the flu shot! Quoting: MamaHasAwakened ^^^this^^^ is exactly my point. Thank you Life is tough, but its tougher when you're stupid. -john wayne Truth is the new hate speech in our age of absurdity-Ted Nougat Sarcasm is the body's natural defense against stupid. |
closing eyes
User ID: 1530062 United States 09/16/2011 02:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Children to make their own medical decisions without parental consent; CA bill AB499, (Prelude to legal Pedophilia?) can someone please explain this in a few simple words word why this american woman should be pedophile? i don´t understand her good. my english is to bad. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1552723 its not her, it is the law that will give the child the right to choose with out parental consent, weather to take a STD vaccination, thus the right of the parent is transferred to the child. Well then it better give them the right to work and cover all the damages they incur growing up. I am legally responsible for my children until they are 18. If they give children those rights, makes parents not responsible. So basically 12 is the new 18. WTF? If you woke up breathing, you have another chance! |
StraightTequila
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1526507 Belgium 09/16/2011 02:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Children to make their own medical decisions without parental consent; CA bill AB499, (Prelude to legal Pedophilia?) You people yelling at concerned parents are ignorant. Havn't you ever turned on the T.V? Every other commercial is about a law firm talking about some medicine or vaccine, especially gaurdacile or gaurdasil or however it is spelled, that has killed the people whohave taken it. Maybe your just not parents yourselves, and don't understand the responsibility. Either way you should mind your own business and let adults make adult decisions for their children. I have real experience with vaccines and what they can do to a child, and if you want your child to end up another statistic thats your choice, but back off those of us who are awake to the damage these vaccines can cause. Quoting: Evan03 The pro points of vaccines far outweigh the bad. Granted, in the US system where medical care is 'just' a business, there's a larger area in which abuse or errors may happen. But some healthy paranoia cannot be a disguise for utter stupidity. If 'concerned parents' wouldn't subject to everything a similar rule would never exist. Even the potential damage would be reduced to virtually zero. Z-E-R-O. That's the potential risk here for my children. So get out on the streets and do something real for your children. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1506836 United States 09/16/2011 02:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Children to make their own medical decisions without parental consent; CA bill AB499, (Prelude to legal Pedophilia?) CALIF is just effed up! You can exempt your child from vaccinations - just say NO! - and say why - speak up and advocate for your child put a note in their school records demanding NO medical vaccinations are given to my child without my consent put a drs orders with it FInd a Dr that will write a note saying this child can not handle shots- they have severe reactions to certain meds - any form of medical treatment in the form of vaccinations must be directed and handled thru a physician in a hospital seeting only, just make up some bull shit no one CAN force you to do anything and if they try - fuck them! I do NOT believe this will pass! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1506836 United States 09/16/2011 02:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Children to make their own medical decisions without parental consent; CA bill AB499, (Prelude to legal Pedophilia?) CALIF is just effed up! You can exempt your child from vaccinations - just say NO! - and say why - speak up and advocate for your child Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1506836 put a note in their school records demanding NO medical vaccinations are given to my child without my consent put a drs orders with it FInd a Dr that will write a note saying this child can not handle shots- they have severe reactions to certain meds - any form of medical treatment in the form of vaccinations must be directed and handled thru a physician in a hospital seeting only, just make up some bull shit no one CAN force you to do anything and if they try - fuck them! I do NOT believe this will pass! a vaccination should be your choice- and you shuld always ask whats in it and make sure the Dr makes his supply MERCURY FREE depends on what the vaccination is - but truly this kind 12 yrs old do not have sex - not normally so this is weird! this should be parents decision - not mandated by a govt! |
MONSTER
User ID: 1339904 United States 09/16/2011 02:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Children to make their own medical decisions without parental consent; CA bill AB499, (Prelude to legal Pedophilia?) KINGDOMS, NATIONS AND KINGS HAVE BEEN BROUGHT DOWN TO THEIR KNEES WITH ONE GLANCE FROM A WOMAN. I WEAR MY SKIN OF ARMOR SO NO ONE CAN GET IN AND NO ONE CAN GET OUT. HOW CAN I MOURN YOU, WHEN I HAVE NEVER LET YOU GO, monster 1991-2008 RIP |
winning
User ID: 1551649 Spain 09/16/2011 02:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Children to make their own medical decisions without parental consent; CA bill AB499, (Prelude to legal Pedophilia?) they might be vaccinating them now but later on they will be sterilising them think about that for a moment. When will they tell us? When they have to? When will they have to? When we figure it out. when else? |
MONSTER
User ID: 1339904 United States 09/16/2011 02:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Children to make their own medical decisions without parental consent; CA bill AB499, (Prelude to legal Pedophilia?) There are other ways to not get genital warts than getting injected with mercury and other toxins, that can cause neurological disorders or death. Quoting: Evan03 Abstinence is great in theory. So are vaccines, until someone gets autism or M.S Honestly, I had all my vaccines growing up, plus the ones for Hepatitis B, my husband had all his, our daughter has had all hers. We have had no ill effects in our 30 years or in her almost 4. So maybe there are certain people who are affected by it and others who aren't. I'd still take my chances any day at keeping her safe from known dangers with the minute risk of the unknown. How do you know no ill effects? could be cancer right around the door, or other common illnesses that we think are just caused by old age. How do we know that these dont cause us to lose our health in years to come? KINGDOMS, NATIONS AND KINGS HAVE BEEN BROUGHT DOWN TO THEIR KNEES WITH ONE GLANCE FROM A WOMAN. I WEAR MY SKIN OF ARMOR SO NO ONE CAN GET IN AND NO ONE CAN GET OUT. HOW CAN I MOURN YOU, WHEN I HAVE NEVER LET YOU GO, monster 1991-2008 RIP |
MONSTER
User ID: 1339904 United States 09/16/2011 02:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Children to make their own medical decisions without parental consent; CA bill AB499, (Prelude to legal Pedophilia?) Hey, if they have control over their health will they have say in being able to illigally drink beer? KINGDOMS, NATIONS AND KINGS HAVE BEEN BROUGHT DOWN TO THEIR KNEES WITH ONE GLANCE FROM A WOMAN. I WEAR MY SKIN OF ARMOR SO NO ONE CAN GET IN AND NO ONE CAN GET OUT. HOW CAN I MOURN YOU, WHEN I HAVE NEVER LET YOU GO, monster 1991-2008 RIP |
Alex A Madison
User ID: 500063 United States 09/16/2011 02:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Children to make their own medical decisions without parental consent; CA bill AB499, (Prelude to legal Pedophilia?) The title of this is just about as stupid as I have EVER seen, Quoting: Scytherius And Parents should not have a say where the spread of disease is concerned. Michele, is that you? While I disagree with the idea that parents should have not right where medical treatment of their children is concerned... This title is a bit off. It would make as much sense to say: Prelude to Nazism. Parents have no say... It's taking an issue and trying to link it to unrelated things in order to control the debate. That's not good. I could not disagree more. Study your history: Germany started kill the disable and the elderly first than they move to what they really wanted; the killing of the "inferior race". So, If a 12 year old can make his own decision about medical issues, the power to decide any issue is no longer with the Guardian, but the child. Consent to sexual relations is different than medical consent. Our culture is probably farther from allowing a twelve year old to consent to sex now than ever. In that you're wrong. I agree with the rest of it, but your title is off and meant just to link the issue you dislike, with an even less liked one to control what people think on the issue. It's a good technique, but not a moral one. DON'T BE A DUMB-ASS, READ A BOOK! BOOKS HELP TO SHARPEN THE MIND AND MAKE LEARNING MORE ENJOYABLE. YAY BOOKS! Read mine for free. ABOMINATIONS by Alex Madison. (You can't beat a free gift! It would be nearly thirty dollars in the store...) Read it for free at: [link to orangecatpublishing.com] |