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Children to make their own medical decisions without parental consent; CA bill AB499, (Prelude to legal Pedophilia?)

 
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Here are the facts.
HPV is in our lives on a daily basis. HPV causes any wart to appear on your body. There are many, many different strands of HPV virus. MOST all HPV disappears on it's own within several weeks and up to a year or two. Some HPV viruses do not appear until after a year or two after exposure. Common skin warts are very common in school aged children because they are exposed to these hpv viruses daily. HPV is like the cold virus, it's very common. Saying that HPV causes cancer is like saying the flu causes lung cancer. It's bogus!
Pre-teens and teens have died all around the globe from a vaccination that is supposed to prevent something that is most likely already in their system in one form or another. So now we are supposed to inject them with an active "bio-engineered" hpv vaccine that has known side effects and has even caused the death of some children, in order to help them "maybe" not get cancer when they grow up.
Wake up people. This is not about the welfare of your children, this is about the al-mighty dollar and big pharma getting it's dues....
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Hey, if they have control over their health will they have say in being able to illigally drink beer?
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Well... no.

18 year olds can give medical consent, but not drink and that's the way it's been for a long time.
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What is happening to our freedoms? WTF is happening in America, and what do we do? They have found the weirdest things in vaccines that never should have been there!
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Exactly, do something you misinformed Americans! Shed some blood.
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Autism and a lifetime of special needs is not worth the risk of the needle, especially without legal recourse.
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Well it's a good thing that the vaccine/autism link has been debunked then, isn't it?
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There are other ways to not get genital warts than getting injected with mercury and other toxins, that can cause neurological disorders or death.
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Abstinence is great in theory.
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So are vaccines, until someone gets autism or M.S
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Honestly, I had all my vaccines growing up, plus the ones for Hepatitis B, my husband had all his, our daughter has had all hers. We have had no ill effects in our 30 years or in her almost 4. So maybe there are certain people who are affected by it and others who aren't.
I'd still take my chances any day at keeping her safe from known dangers with the minute risk of the unknown.
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the vaccines 25-30 years ago are not the same as some of the new ones that are out now

they are specifically talking about gardasil for the most part- and some of the new flu shots i wouldnt touch with a ten foot pole.

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they tried to give my daughter gardasil in grade 5 last year i staunchly refused.

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Autism and a lifetime of special needs is not worth the risk of the needle, especially without legal recourse.
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Well it's a good thing that the vaccine/autism link has been debunked then, isn't it?
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Well of course it has. Look at the millions and millions of dollars that be lost by the pharma companies. Look at all the lawsuits there would be. It is too big of a money machine for there to be a proven link.
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Autism and a lifetime of special needs is not worth the risk of the needle, especially without legal recourse.
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Well it's a good thing that the vaccine/autism link has been debunked then, isn't it?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1283316

Well of course it has. Look at the millions and millions of dollars that be lost by the pharma companies. Look at all the lawsuits there would be. It is too big of a money machine for there to be a proven link.
 Quoting: MamaHasAwakened


^^this.

you can pay anyone to do a "study" and come up with whatever results you pay them to come up with.
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62 views, do people not get it? well i guess I need post things about fire in the sky, that will get views
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Thanks OP...I have an Autistic son, no doubt in my mind it was caused by vaccinations. If a doctor attempts to give any shots to any of my children they WILL need medical attention themselves.
5*'s + karma hf
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62 views, do people not get it? well i guess I need post things about fire in the sky, that will get views
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Thanks OP...I have an Autistic son, no doubt in my mind it was caused by vaccinations. If a doctor attempts to give any shots to any of my children they WILL need medical attention themselves.
5*'s + karma hf
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Agreed. applause2
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well, looks like I got some bad Karma points over this. Must be them DHS Fusion Center Shills.
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well, looks like I got some bad Karma points over this. Must be them DHS Fusion Center Shills.
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gave you back a +1 thummbsup for helping expose more tyranny.
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[link to en.wikipedia.org]

The youngest girl to get pregnant and have a baby is reported as being 5-6 years old.

Just because you want to make rules and laws that go against nature and God's plan for us all doesn't make it right. There is nothing wrong with any child having sex if they give permission, IMO.

I am totally against anyone taking advantage of a child in anyway, shape or form. But if a child wants to explore his sexuality with an older person they should be allowed too, regardless of what the parents think. Guess what a child has his own mind and should be able to explore life on his own terms regardless of any regulations or laws!
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So would they be covering the costs of the 275.00 vaccine too? Parents shouldn't have to pay if they don't sign on the dotted line for it.

And I thought that was what Gardisil was about. Another way to bilk people of their money for unnessary vaccines.

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[link to en.wikipedia.org]

The youngest girl to get pregnant and have a baby is reported as being 5-6 years old.

Just because you want to make rules and laws that go against nature and God's plan for us all doesn't make it right. There is nothing wrong with any child having sex if they give permission, IMO.

I am totally against anyone taking advantage of a child in anyway, shape or form. But if a child wants to explore his sexuality with an older person they should be allowed too, regardless of what the parents think. Guess what a child has his own mind and should be able to explore life on his own terms regardless of any regulations or laws!

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OP, I think you need to go back to your original title here.
How bout those Canadians '
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To the Canadian acting as the ignorant cattle.... vaccines have been linked to autism. Are you an ignorant zombie??? Do you believe everything your authority figures tell you? Are you going to bend over for them to inject and protect you too??? Your country as a sad state when you give up your freedom to protect your own body. I won't paint all Canadians with the same brush.... but I wonder how much mercury you've taken in.....
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I declined this shot for my daughter with her 11/12 year boosters. The doctor was pushing it hard, too. I figure we will revisit the issue when she's due for her next boosters. But, it's still too new for me to be comfortable with it.
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The gene pool is NOT EVOLVING! The gene pool is getting more and more SCREWED UP from these vaccines! Not only autism spectrum, learning disorders, ADD, obeisity..... look at test scores.... is it any wonder even fertility is getting messed up? Processed sugars, bleached white flours, irradiated foods.... womens pelvic bone structure mutating to more narrow making conception more difficult.... ah yes.... World Food Program... more processed foods without the natural animal fats..... FOLKS WAKE UP!!!
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We were healthier when we weren't taking so many of these drugs.
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Petition created by me here: [link to www.change.org (secure)]

Please sign, send to state senators, news agencies, friends, tweet it, facebook it.
Be Loud!
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Autism and a lifetime of special needs is not worth the risk of the needle, especially without legal recourse.
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Well it's a good thing that the vaccine/autism link has been debunked then, isn't it?
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It hasn't. They say it has, and I won't try to change your opinion if you really believe that, but it hasn't been debunked at all, and it is true.

Evidence? There's plenty out there, you can find it in five minutes if you want. Don't bother if you don't want.
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Sign that petition....

We need to do this.

I am gonna fight and be the voice as always, but I am now calling on others to step up and do the same. One voice is all it takes to break the silence. One voice is a whisper, many voices, a shout.
Be Loud!
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all the young women that are taking this HPV vaccination will never be able to conceive when they get older.

There will be no recourse either.

they will realize they fucked up and the state wont give a shit.

avoid that shit at all costs if you actually plan on having kids.
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I get my child immunized against anything they've got. I don't get kickbacks from the government to say this, but I do trust that an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure.
A family member contracted genital warts, even with the use of a condom, so in my opinion, anything that could reduce my child's odds of contracting a disease is a good thing in my book. Not to mention with females there is an increased risk of some types of cervical cancer if they have or have had genital warts.
If she were to do something good for her health "behind my back," (prob couldn't happen, but who knows) I would still be proud that I raised a daughter who had her health in top priority.
 Quoting: shame_spiral


I want to start off saying I respect your opinion and confidence in knowing your daughter would make healthy choices and decisions, if left to her alone to make. I also would like to say I respect the decision of OP to bring to light a very serious issue with global vaccines today. I have to admit I error on the side of caution more now than ever for obvious reasons. My decision to research every drug prior to having them administered now is largely due in part to my own personal belief that my son first displayed Autistic symptoms after receiving the Varicella injections. My 3 daughters didn't receive Varicella injections and none have mental health issues. Again, this is my own personal belief, nothing clinically proven by his health providers.

I would ask that you remain open-minded to the possibility that children shouldn't be provided with the option to voluntarily receive injections without parental consent. This for the fact that most children are unable or unwilling to truly investigate and comprehend the possible side effects. A parent's voice could make all the world of difference in their decision to proceed with a vaccine they knew little or nothing about regarding side effects.

My daughters, then 16, 17 and 17 have all received the 3 series injections of Gardasil. Doctor recommended and as a mother of 3 daughters in the high-risk category of developing cervical cancer due to genetics, I followed his advice to vaccinate. When they were vaccinated, I had no clue the vaccines could have been or were contaminated with rDNA which is a biohazard. Now, if I as their mother would not have thought to question their Doctor about possible biohazard contaminants, do you honestly think a 12 year old CHILD would think to question about possible contaminants in the drug that could permanently injure them physically, mentally and/or kill them?

Info below is regarding contamination of Gardasil. What's a shame is they say this is the 1st vaccine found to be contaminated by genetically engineered DNA. Shouldn't this "finding" have been "found" way before over 35 million doses have been distributed as of June 2011?

[link to healthimpactnews.com]

snip...

What is a Recombinant DNA Virus?

Recombinant DNA (rDNA) refers to novel DNA molecules engineered by joining natural or synthetic DNA segments to other DNA molecules so that they can replicate in a living cell. The possibility for these replicable forms of DNA as uncertain toxic substance or as environmental hazard has been a concern since rDNA technology was invented in 1973. Thus, rDNA is considered a potential biohazard, and NIH has mandated that research institutions monitor and regulate its use.2.

All recombinant or genetically engineered DNAs are considered potential biohazards if injected intramuscularly into the body. Merck’s Gardasil™ HPV4 vaccine is administered intramuscularly – as are many other vaccines. However, Gardasil™ is the first vaccine found to be contaminated by a genetically engineered DNA used to manufacture virus-like particle proteins for the vaccine.

SANE Vax Inc. believes the FDA should have required Merck to test for, evaluate and quantify the risks of residual recombinant HPV DNA in Gardasil™ before granting approval for marketing the vaccine. SANE Vax Inc. believes the FDA should require every lot of Gardasil™ be tested for residual HPV DNA prior to shipment.

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What's more, the FDA identified some of Merck's vaccines, including Gardasil and MMR II, also tainted with shrink rap.

[link to sideeffectslawsuitsnews.com]

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U.S. regulators are putting heat on Merck & Co. after charred bits of plastic shrink wrap were found in vials of vaccines, the latest quality problem identified by the FDA at the company’s biggest vaccine-making plant.

The affected vaccines included Gardasil for the prevention of HPV infection, Varivax for chicken pox, Pneumovax for pneumococcal disease, Zostavax for shingles and MMR II for measles, mumps and rubella.
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An everyone has been giving Rick Perry a hard time about this very issue.... makes me sick... I guess it all depends on where you are, I guess if you are in California then it's okay for it to happen there, but since Perry is in Texas, then it's a big NO NO... give me a break...
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Time to talk to your kids and teach them about propaganda and fear mongering by authorities. At the end of the day they will listen to the parents over some psychotic nurse or other programmed drones at the school facilities.

Learn the laws and be prepared to take action with a lawsuit.
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Time to talk to your kids and teach them about propaganda and fear mongering by authorities. At the end of the day they will listen to the parents over some psychotic nurse or other programmed drones at the school facilities.

Learn the laws and be prepared to take action with a lawsuit.
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You could also sign my petition to fight it... just saying.
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I declined this shot for my daughter with her 11/12 year boosters. The doctor was pushing it hard, too. I figure we will revisit the issue when she's due for her next boosters. But, it's still too new for me to be comfortable with it.
 Quoting: Tawandaaaa


I've been through this as well... You wouldn't believe the pressure they put on me to give this to my daughter. What is really sad is that the medical staff seemed completely unaware of the potential dangers of this vaccine, and didn't believe a word of what I had to say when they asked why I was against it. I basically had to hold my hand up & say, "Enough, I don't care what you guys think, the answer is NO".
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I declined this shot for my daughter with her 11/12 year boosters. The doctor was pushing it hard, too. I figure we will revisit the issue when she's due for her next boosters. But, it's still too new for me to be comfortable with it.
 Quoting: Tawandaaaa


I've been through this as well... You wouldn't believe the pressure they put on me to give this to my daughter. What is really sad is that the medical staff seemed completely unaware of the potential dangers of this vaccine, and didn't believe a word of what I had to say when they asked why I was against it. I basically had to hold my hand up & say, "Enough, I don't care what you guys think, the answer is NO".
 Quoting: BlueMind


yep i wouldnt let them inject it into my 10 year old daughter either.

i bet 90% have never even read the insert that comes with the vac.

here is a PDF of the insert:

[link to www.fda.gov]
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I declined this shot for my daughter with her 11/12 year boosters. The doctor was pushing it hard, too. I figure we will revisit the issue when she's due for her next boosters. But, it's still too new for me to be comfortable with it.
 Quoting: Tawandaaaa


I've been through this as well... You wouldn't believe the pressure they put on me to give this to my daughter. What is really sad is that the medical staff seemed completely unaware of the potential dangers of this vaccine, and didn't believe a word of what I had to say when they asked why I was against it. I basically had to hold my hand up & say, "Enough, I don't care what you guys think, the answer is NO".
 Quoting: BlueMind


You have to understand their point of view, they are instructed to do so for financial reasons (its a business after all) plus the propaganda from their peer reviews and literature.

At the end of the day who cares what they believe. Great for saying NO.
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ingredients of gardasil:

[link to www.merck.com]

amorphous aluminum hydroxyphosphate sulfate

dangers:

Study clearly demonstrates that aluminum found in vaccines can cause neurologic damage

i cant link it here because it has jumela in the url..

[link to www.google.ca]

click the google link and then click the link that says "Study clearly demonstrates that aluminum found in vaccines can cause neurologic damage" at healthsentinel.com

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