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Object to the side of the sun, definitely NOT A LENS FLARE, could it be Venus?

 
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Re: Object to the side of the sun, definitely NOT A LENS FLARE, could it be Venus?
That is not a lens flare. I don't know what it is, but whatever it is, it's really there.
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I agree...that is, I don't know what 'it' is. Great ob OP! We all should at this time put aside our preconceptions of what we know and accept what it is we don't know! WE have a limited time to draw conclusions for discussion. TPTB will see too it that when we are close the tools at our disposal will likely become fewer and further betwixt and between.
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Re: Object to the side of the sun, definitely NOT A LENS FLARE, could it be Venus?
[link to www.youtube.com]

time and place, 1pm North Wales. Everybody tell everybody to try this at home and get more captures of it!
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Re: Object to the side of the sun, definitely NOT A LENS FLARE, could it be Venus?
It's impossible to see venus in the day because of the sun light. So at least not venus.
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Re: Object to the side of the sun, definitely NOT A LENS FLARE, could it be Venus?
Internal alignment reflection. It's a mirror image of the sun reflected back from the sensor to lens and back to the sensor.
This happens when you point your camera to something so bright.

here's video from the same dude about the same subject, but watch closely around 0:56 when he puts his finger in front of his camera. you can see the dot on his finger.

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Re: Object to the side of the sun, definitely NOT A LENS FLARE, could it be Venus?
And for people saying it's lens flare.. well lens flares do not go behind clouds, they stay in front if anything.
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Re: Object to the side of the sun, definitely NOT A LENS FLARE, could it be Venus?
IT'S A DAMN LENS FLARE PEOPLE!!!

How many of these threads does there need to be?

I'm not disproving anything, just stating the obvious.

It DOES move when the camera moves, the red hue is offset on the sun and the flares to the left, and it is not visible anywhere else.

If you actually take perspective into account for a minute you would know that if an object is near the sun, the entire world would see it at any given time because the sun is so far away, the perspective on it doesn't change around the world. The earth rotates, but the sun and what is near it stay stationary, so we all get the same picture.

I didn't see this next to the sun, even with a camera. Well, scratch that, I did, but it was definitely lens flare.

Look, if elenin is bringing with it the destroyer, so be it.

But WE'LL KNOW. All of us.

It won't be a sneak attack.
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Re: Object to the side of the sun, definitely NOT A LENS FLARE, could it be Venus?
[link to www.youtube.com]
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Re: Object to the side of the sun, definitely NOT A LENS FLARE, could it be Venus?
ill wait until see it with naked eye
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Re: Object to the side of the sun, definitely NOT A LENS FLARE, could it be Venus?
There appears to be another object that is approximately 1.5" to the left of the object in question. It is much fainter, but it seems to remain stationary to the object.
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Re: Object to the side of the sun, definitely NOT A LENS FLARE, could it be Venus?
That is not a lens flare. I don't know what it is, but whatever it is, it's really there.
 Quoting: Dee Lisch


on the lens
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1555855


If it was on the lens it would move around when the camera moves. It stays completely motionless in relation to the sun, so it's no lens flare or artifact.
If it's venus then it must be getting closer lol, because I've never seen Venus that size before, and I'm no spring chicken....
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Re: Object to the side of the sun, definitely NOT A LENS FLARE, could it be Venus?
Venus was a little larger than a speck at the 8 o'clock position to the moon the other night. The disk next the sun in the video is a little bit larger and did not move with the lens flares. Mercury at this time is on the right side of the sun, according to JPL. So? Any other suggestions?????

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Re: Object to the side of the sun, definitely NOT A LENS FLARE, could it be Venus?
Internal alignment reflection. It's a mirror image of the sun reflected back from the sensor to lens and back to the sensor.
This happens when you point your camera to something so bright.

here's video from the same dude about the same subject, but watch closely around 0:56 when he puts his finger in front of his camera. you can see the dot on his finger.


 Quoting: Lnx
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Re: Object to the side of the sun, definitely NOT A LENS FLARE, could it be Venus?
We spend the day out and I was checking the sky,nonstop trying to see that mysterious object u guys r talking about.
No luck so far.
If there is something there shouldn't we be able to see it? I mean, how come it can be seen only from certain place at certain time?It's either there or it's not.

If this planet or whatever it is,is suppose to crush/pass near us and destroy our planet soon,wouldn't we be able to see it through a telescope?
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it'll all depend where in the world you are and at what time.

also how many people stand squinting at the sun trying to see something?
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Re: Object to the side of the sun, definitely NOT A LENS FLARE, could it be Venus?
Its a lens flare he gets the same lens flare on a previous video and at 0.59 you can clearly see this dot in front of his finger.
And seriously peeps do you honestly think that just one man in Wales would have seen it with a camera phone lol
Peeps need to wake up and add a dose of reality when/if it does get seen in the sky. There will be many vids an pics uploaded before jumping to conclusions check proof
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Re: Object to the side of the sun, definitely NOT A LENS FLARE, could it be Venus?
Internal alignment reflection. It's a mirror image of the sun reflected back from the sensor to lens and back to the sensor.
This happens when you point your camera to something so bright.

here's video from the same dude about the same subject, but watch closely around 0:56 when he puts his finger in front of his camera. you can see the dot on his finger.


 Quoting: Lnx


If it's a reflection of the sun, can you explain why it appears clearly at the very start of the video when the sun is completely obscured by a cloud?
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Re: Object to the side of the sun, definitely NOT A LENS FLARE, could it be Venus?
Internal alignment reflection. It's a mirror image of the sun reflected back from the sensor to lens and back to the sensor.
This happens when you point your camera to something so bright.

here's video from the same dude about the same subject, but watch closely around 0:56 when he puts his finger in front of his camera. you can see the dot on his finger.


 Quoting: Lnx


If it's a reflection of the sun, can you explain why it appears clearly at the very start of the video when the sun is completely obscured by a cloud?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1556234



Those aren't very thick clouds and doesn't block the sun that much.

and could you please explain that if this is something else than reflection, then why does this "dot" appear on his finger when he puts it in front of his camera?



Last Edited by Lnx on 09/19/2011 07:28 AM
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Re: Object to the side of the sun, definitely NOT A LENS FLARE, could it be Venus?
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Re: Object to the side of the sun, definitely NOT A LENS FLARE, could it be Venus?
Internal alignment reflection. It's a mirror image of the sun reflected back from the sensor to lens and back to the sensor.
This happens when you point your camera to something so bright.

here's video from the same dude about the same subject, but watch closely around 0:56 when he puts his finger in front of his camera. you can see the dot on his finger.


 Quoting: Lnx


Good catch.

Damn flares messing with us man LOL
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For the douche who gave me bad karma,

fuckoff2
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Re: Object to the side of the sun, definitely NOT A LENS FLARE, could it be Venus?
it doesn't have to be a flare to be camera artifact. it was not behind the cloud, it's white... it blended in with it. jeeesh.
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Re: Object to the side of the sun, definitely NOT A LENS FLARE, could it be Venus?
Is it not a parhelion? It looks very much like one....?

aka Sun Dog...
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Re: Object to the side of the sun, definitely NOT A LENS FLARE, could it be Venus?
Internal alignment reflection. It's a mirror image of the sun reflected back from the sensor to lens and back to the sensor.
This happens when you point your camera to something so bright.

here's video from the same dude about the same subject, but watch closely around 0:56 when he puts his finger in front of his camera. you can see the dot on his finger.


 Quoting: Lnx


Good catch.

Damn flares messing with us man LOL
 Quoting: Koelbren


hehe. i know ;)

I know my shiet when it comes to photos/videos.
I know what to look for and how things work :)
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Re: Object to the side of the sun, definitely NOT A LENS FLARE, could it be Venus?
You people dont get it:

This object is Venus, squeezed to be closer to the Earth and no longer able to be in the simulated orbit that has been maintained for Venus since both it and the Earth halted in their orbits in front of whatever-is-coming-to-us
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Re: Object to the side of the sun, definitely NOT A LENS FLARE, could it be Venus?
Where normally only seen as the evening or morning star, when pushed closer to the Earth and in the line of sight between the Earth and Sun, reflected sunlight allows a planet sized object with the potential for shadow to be seen. We have warned that this time was coming, when dramas from the planets caught in the cup with the Earth would play out, and this time has arrived...

Venus is alongside the sun, believe it or not.

I know this is going to raise some eyebrows worldwide.....
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