Will the real Jesus please stand up?

Mary, if you make it back soon, maybe we could switch to talking about the Eucharist, because I think this thread is winding down. I hope you are doing well. I miss you!

Jen

22The people asked, "Does he intend to kill himself? Is that what he means by saying we cannot go where he is going?"
23Jesus answered, "You are from below, but I am from above. You belong to this world, but I don't. 24That is why I said you will die with your sins unforgiven. If you don't have faith in me for who I am, you will die, and your sins will not be forgiven."
25"Who are you?" they asked Jesus.
Jesus answered, "I am exactly who I told you at the beginning. 26There is a lot more I could say to condemn you. But the one who sent me is truthful, and I tell the people of this world only what I have heard from him."
27No one understood that Jesus was talking to them about the Father.
28Jesus went on to say, "When you have lifted up the Son of Man, you will know who I am. You will also know that I don't do anything on my own. I say only what my Father taught me. 29The one who sent me is with me. I always do what pleases him, and he will never leave me."
30After Jesus said this, many of the people put their faith in him.

The Truth Will Set You Free

31Jesus told the people who had faith in him, "If you keep on obeying what I have said, you truly are my disciples. 32You will know the truth, and the truth will set you free."
33They answered, "We are Abraham's children! We have never been anyone's slaves. How can you say we will be set free?"
34Jesus replied:

I tell you for certain that anyone who sins is a slave of sin! 35And slaves don't stay in the family forever, though the Son will always remain in the family. 36If the Son gives you freedom, you are free! 37I know that you are from Abraham's family. Yet you want to kill me, because my message isn't really in your hearts. 38I am telling you what my Father has shown me, just as you are doing what your father has taught you.

Ezk 36:28 And I will put my Spirit in you and move you to follow my decrees and be careful to keep my laws.

Thanks for the kind words.

Humble opinion: The following verse would be one worth sharing...


Matthew 5:28
But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart.


How many people understand that their thoughts will keep them off of the narrow path?






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That's some stupid shit.

Jesus was not shackling people with their natural desires, dummy. That is how his enemies worked. Do you even know who Jesus' enemies were?

What he was saying, with the verse above, is that ALL HAVE SINNED. It's not about resisting the beauty of women, it's about what you do with the fact that life itself calls us toward our desires.

I absolutely loathe so-called Christians who try to make Jesus out to be the same sort of legalistic prick, that the lawyers of his day were. To them he said "Sons of Satan is what you are. You bind heavy loads and place them on the shoulders of the weak."

So your hateful, anti-human interpretation of the scripture above, is the same sort of "placing heavy loads" as Jesus hates. Don't worry though, 90% of "Christians" are of the same sort of confused idiot. Look within for Jesus, not without.

Frankly, Daniel's post exhibits more of Father's love than this reply does.

You wouldn't know love if it performed fellatio on you.

Jesus is a weapon used by shitheads. The real Jesus was an anti-establishment friend of actual humans. His enemies ran with his image, so as to use it for opposite purposes.

Women are a delight to look at. To crave them is normal. You seem to be suggesting Jesus didn't crave women, or allow his followers to crave them? That's so ghey.

Jesus was saying that everyone wants something their neighbor has. BUT it is what you do with it that matters. He wasn't saying "women are the problem".

Though the "Garden of Eden" story does say that "women are the problem" you'll find that Eden is only as old as Amarna, where Nefertiti lived. She was a hot chick, and every man wanted her. And the priests hated her of course.

So the anti-Amarna ghey priest of today, has the same Eve-hating ideas, "women are the problem" is the agreed truth of Islam and fake Christians. Both the mullahs and the bishops agree, "women are the problem".

But Jesus is not any part of this. He loved women, and saved hookers from rocks. He didn't discuss any of the stupid shit the bishops and mullahs of today seem to like discussing. Jesus was cool and women loved him as did the elderly, the oppressed, etc.

Thank you. That comment told me all I need to know about you.

What kind of testicular fortitude does it take, to step in front of a bunch of Jewishes or Muslimishes or Christianishes who are assembled en masse, to chuck rocks at the head of a woman on the ground?

What kind of eternal balls, does it take to place your own body, between a crowd of righteous dickheads, and a woman whom they intend to kill righteously?

What kind of everlasting GUTS does it take to step between those two poles, one female hating, the other, female itself, and say "this will not happen."????

It takes the kind of balls that are completely lacking, from today's Abrahamic religions. FACT.

So the mis application of scripture, is one of the biggest tools of the women hating self-deceiving crowd. It's funny how many stupid parents there are, but frankly all they are doing is losing this generation. Who would respect parents who mimick such fools as these?

Women are not the problem, they are actually the source of all life. Men can't create shit, but through women, God creates men.

Oh? Wow, such a well-developed polarizing mechinanism you have. Do you grasp all arguments so easily?

Hey, can you guys provide me some more scriptural proof of what a anti-sex boy sacrifice Jesus was?

Because the churches of today, relish in the dying and dead, virgin boy sacrifice Jesus, if you hadn't noticed. He hangs dead on the wall of thousands of churches, but he is not permitted to be a living man.

This women hating is truly hilarious. Completely anti life and Satanic. It is too bad you cannot find the will to ask further questions from an actual believer in the true and real Jesus. I find him to be refreshingly pro-uterus and pro-birth and pro-females. Sad that you have no questions for me, even as his favorite group (the ladies) have been made to suffer for 2000 years, and especially in this last century.

How sad that the churches of today lead you to hell and shrink your brains, and here you have a chance to repent and you just shovel dirt over yourself with a terse and stupid reply as above. Well, it doesn't matter because historically Jesus' record as being a lover of female and a defender of them, stands for all eternity, no matter what the female haters do.

Jesus loved boobs, and it is Satanic to suggest that he did not.

One time, Jesus allowed one of his female followers to uncover her breasts, and take one in each of her hands, and she came close to Jesus and lightly smacked him on both cheeks with her boobs, just gently smacking his face left and then right, with her delightfully smooth and luscious tits. Jesus, the perfect man, smiled as those tits playfully slapped his cheeks.

"Daughter," he said "you faith has moved me."

Now tell me: Did Jesus sin whilst allowing this woman to boob-slap him gently? I say no.

Now you may say, "Oh but the women-hating rock-throwing is from Moses!"

NO it is not. Moses, had to deal with his stupid northern tribesmen who were lava worshippers. This sort of person throws virgins into the lava, trying to appease their angry God. So Moses had to appease their insane bloodlust, and so he transferred it to animal sacrifice.

If you doubt this truth, then consider that Abraham was asked by his God, to slaughter his boy child, a virgin no doubt. Therefore, the slaughter of virgin children is how this God gets paid. Do you doubt this? Then consider that the Islamishes claim the it was not Isaac on the blood altar, it was Ishmael. You gettin this? There is not just a birthright as what Jacob and Esau fought over, there is also a DEATHRITE which is coveted. The Islamishes want to say that their sacrifice (potentially) was the one God wanted, but the Jewishes want to say it was their boy who was the more tasty (potential) sacrifice.

So I am describing the origins of Moses. He as a Pharaoh (Akhenaten) had to somehow convince these families that slaughtering their kids was the old way, and the new way would be slaughtering animals. He was a smart man.

Research the women haters and the child sacrificers and you may see the real Jesus who opposed their whole caste. There is a reason the hatred of Jesus is so high, and that his image is used by those who hate him. There is a reason the women-hating church has a wimpy, emaciated Jesus hanging from the cross: They worship virgin boy sacrifices.

The opposite of that of course, is to elevate woman to her rightful place, being the bringer of life. Now the woman haters will immediately begin weeping in hate and saying how woman will take over like some mad Hindu who slays all the men, but I think this might be a good time to bring Freud into it, as he is one of the foremost Jewishes of his time, and had good insight into why humans are so fucked up. When he died, he saved his best book for last "Was Moses an Egyptian" and that triggered WW2 where of course, Hitler Shicklegruber said famously about Nefertiti "I would build a temple exclusively for her. I am in love with her." ...Realize also that Amarna was only uncovered after the US Civil War. So this whole thing I am describing is a 20th Century struggle which 100 years from now will be the truth everyone knows.

I'm quite good at it, and I don't have a need to share my methods with you or anyone else.

I know you love to have the last word, so do reply one more time, knowing that I'll not be responding to you again.

Cool. But what would say anyway?

Probably the same regurgitated pap you swallow at your church?

Haven't read the thread, just kept seeing it bounce and decided to load it up with truth. You admit you can't go anywhere once faced with truth. That's cool. I expected it.

The essential question is this:

When Abraham was asked to sacrifice his kid, did this surprise him?

We are taught 100% that this was a novel idea, wow, totally weird that God would ask for that. Hmmm...

But in fact, researchers find much evidence for human sacrifice, examples would be children being sent up into the mountains in Peru. So the Gods of old, did get offered "first fruits" as a sacrifice.

Just like the genesis and core of the Bible explains. It all begins with some confused dude who thinks God wants dead kids. Abraham was truly stupid in this frame, wouldn't you agree?

But God stopped this event, and then we have Islamishes (Ishmael) and Jewishes (Isaac) who then commence battle over the POTENTIAL sacrifice. Funny huh?

And so then there is Jesus.

Quick question for the "human sacrifice = faith" crowd: Was it the actions in Jesus' life, that made him the perfect "lamb" for passover? What I am asking is, if Jesus allowed himself to fondle a pair of tits, would is sour the meat for him being sacrificed? It is a fair question, because I think a lot of you sacrificers would say "Yes, if he had grasped a pair of titties, his meat wouldn't have been a suitable sacrifice."

And therefore do you expose yourselves as, anti-Christ. Because you place Jesus in a box which is not of his design.

Isn't it amazing all the things Jesus DID NOT comment on, in the gospel? He was always confounding the efforts of lawyers and similar shitheads who walked after him, always trying to trip him.

Now, all Abraham's children, are lawyers of the same ilk, hounding the spirit of Jesus with the ghost of his enemies. It's amazing the evil men have accomplished by using the cloaks of Moses, Mohammed and Jesus. But these cloaks are borrowed, and eventually will be reclaimed.

Yes, truth will make you confused and it will force you to dissonate, or change.

You must see my logic, the logic of truth: If Jesus' hands had touched boobs during his life, it would have made him UNSACRIFICABLE because the rules of sacrificers, according to their God of blood, is that only virgin children are acceptable.

You must understand, that Jesus, as a man, held breasts. To not recognize that, is ghey and evil.

But as you dissonate in this moment, weeping at the idea that Jesus loved and held boobs, that is YOUR issue. That is YOU battling with your own screwed up head. Sorry, it has nothing to do with Jesus.

Face truth ye lovers of blood: Jesus' hands holding a pair of boobs, sours his meat and makes him imperfect, because then he is "polluted" by these evil women. You see how you are? You deny this man, whom you worship, the right to be a man. You must have him be a man-boy, because upon this whole idea does your bloody scheme rest.

Why would you assume that the verse does not equally apply to women who look upon men with lust in their heart?








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Well see, this world says that women (Eve) are who fucked it all up. That's the bible story, and also the Islamishes agree with the Eve and Adam story, which is actually based in the events of Amarna, and Akhenaten (monotheist) and his hot wife Nefertiti, whom Hitler obsessed over.

You are avoiding my boob question and I must insist that you answer it:

REPEAT: If Jesus had held boobs, even once, in his life, would that have soured his meat, and make him an unsuitable sacrifice?

It is a simple question, you don't even need your bible.

AGAIN: If the savior's hands, held a pair of boobs, would that contact with a female, invalidate him as the savior?

That is your question, all attempts to run, Danny boy, will lead to the same place.

No.



Any more questions?





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I should add that the 19th and 20th Century is obviously the final Satanic convulsion, and Satan would be the guy who offered Jesus the world, and to whom Jesus turned his ass.

Therefore Satan, being truly pissed, attacks what Jesus LOVES ...Women. That is the history of the 2000 years since. Women hating is the core of the Peter=church and also the core of the Islamishes empowered today.

And things really got ramped up during the last century where we got the two largest ritual slaughter altars (the altar was Europe and the US) and the wars were run by women haters (Jesuits and crypto-Jewishes) who have established the first Jewish Nation and gave them nuclear weapons! Welcome to the crap of this world, say good bye to your firstfruits and young people, they're cannon fodder.

So of course, the true Christian principle is that of boobs, and milk, and the opposite of war. It is as simple as a spray of milk splashing onto your face as an infant. Well today we have baby formula so we can eliminate wet nursing of any kind. Who would want wet nurses when you can have factories that make baby formula and prevent HIV? Everyone knows breastmilk makes you dead, and should be feared, right? Fucking idiots. I advise all lactating women to spray their elected officials with breast milk and those who act terrified are the first ones to remove from power.

Sorry for the Wartards who want to run with Jesus' and Moses' and Mohammed's cloaks and do more bullshit and blood, but you can observe for yourself, that it's winding up, and their schemes are fading.

Those who support blood and death, will reap their plantings.

NEW THREAD PROPOSAL:

"Did Jesus ever hold titties?"

Go.

Feel free to skate on by the most brilliant solution you'll ever read.

Because you see, spurts of breast milk, from dripping nude nipples, will cause many men to cover worse than mortar fire.

Haha, fuckin hilarious huh?

However, some men, would smile and open their mouths, acting all "perverted".

Haha, fuckin hilarious huh?

Me, I'm with the perverts. What can I say? As Daniel says above, it is perfectly acceptable that Jesus joggled some titties together, and maybe even squeezed those titties?

I think some die-hard Christianishes would strongly disagree. Their Jesus is the sort who would duck behind a rock if a spray of mommy milk came at him.

But as I have suggested, the lactating women have been given the weapon, in all nations and countries, in this age of sexual truths, to spray any man with their dangerous/delightful milk, and thereby separate wheat from chaff. The leaders who duck the spray of breast milk as if it were a flamethrower, are the ghey, unsalvageable ones. The leaders who smile and allow the milk to land on their lips happily, are the ones who have something to offer the world. No, these men do not have breast milk, they can't really help children. However by supporting motherhood, they would be of the rare sort of man, who like Jesus, defends the female.

Seriously, breast milk is deadly. Haha ...or is it? Time to ask all leaders to be either hot or cold. Ladies, I say spray for your lives. And if you don't have milky tits, then squeeze the tits of your sister or friend who does. Aim straight at the assheads in power.

Why do you keep repeating yourself?

Are you going to be okay?

Not repeating, just bouncing some lovliness...



Whereas the reaction my truth is like...



Anyway, thanks at least for letting Jesus be man enough to hold breasts, it's enough to cause a schism. DO NOT discuss this thread in church or at your local rotary club!

lol

You seem to be in a better mood.


But, isn't this Church?







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Hi guys,

It seems you had an interesting visitor today. Daniel, do you know who ac003 is?...just checking because you knew that Ravenous and Sword are the same person.

And ac003, just in case your comments represented the real feelings in your heart (as opposed to just messing with us for fun), I have not found a single person on this thread spouting disrespectful things about women.

And as far as Jesus is concerned, the Bible demonstrates that women were the first humans to discover that Jesus was resurrected, and they were the ones who had the privilege of telling others. This would not have happened if Jesus felt women were inferior. The disciples did not change the story to favor men, which might have happened if non-inspired individuals wrote the Bible.

Last Edited by Jenann on 09/30/2011 01:17 AM

Daniel,

You have been bringing up some good scriptural comments that generally point to idolatry. Since we are imperfect any one of us (even as believers) can find ourselves putting certain things above God, even things that are good things. This is why I am so thankful that in the book of Hebrews all the faithful are listed without mentioning the times they failed.

And knowing my own tendencies, I can usually identify one of my own idols by getting to the bottom of negative feelings when they crop up. I can resonate with Paul's "wretched man that I am" speech in Romans 7, and it thrills me that the speech doesn't end there, but rather in the gratitude that we can have for a savior who died for these things. Then I think this gratitude is what spurs us on in our individual walks with God. And I think it reminds us to readjust our mindsets in the manner of Colossians 3.

Thanks for bringing those things to our attention.

Jen

Last Edited by Jenann on 09/30/2011 01:09 AM

Well, I must go to bed. I've been having a difficult time getting back to regular hours. Mary, I hope there is nothing of concern keeping you away like illness...I will pray just in case. When this thread totally dies, I will still be checking to see if you are back so we can get into the Eucharist.

Jen

Likewise.

'Regular' hours have recently been elusive.


Just wondering- did Rosh Hashanah mean anything to you this week?




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Hi Daniel,

Yes and no. Yes, because of the Jewish beginnings of God's demonstration of himself to the world, and I think that understanding the festivals helps us understand certain things about God. I do not personally celebrate them in a formal sense. I was not looking to be "raptured" as so many were partly because I tend to think we will be taken up before the bowl judgments which would make it too early for this. But, I see no reason why the fall festivals wouldn't be fulfilled by Jesus just like the spring festivals were. I think it's a possibility that the trumpet judgments will involve Rosh Hashanah in the future. And I've been lately wondering how jubilee years might tie into the future.

The no comes into play because whereas there will be signs as the Bible says, I don't want to lose my focus on Jesus and telling others about him. I want to be prepared for however it all goes down. It would be all too easy for me to spend too much time researching theories while ignoring the work that God has prepared for me in advance (as in Ephesians).

How about you?