Recent observations on Yellowstone for serious magmatards

By the way now there have been some little earthquakes in yellowstone area which looks like there have been some movement in magma chamber. Looks like there happens something near that lake.

Last Edited by so-gui-li on 11/09/2011 01:50 AM

it looks like the whole us is having problems it is really odd any ideals anyone

[link to quakes.globalincidentmap.com]

Hi guys,

I haven’t meant to neglect this thread; I really want to keep it going for intelligent discussion about Yellowstone, volcanoes, earthquakes and other significant earth events.

I was very interested in what this morning’s national emergency system test would turn out to be. Possibly an attempt at neural reprogramming or neural repatterning,a technique that I find highly suspect and dangerous.

[link to www.ultimatetransformation.co.uk]

All I saw was a brief banner that quickly disappeared, and only a brief sound.

Now we know if FEMA attempts a complete takeover of TV, radio, and Internet, it will be only partially successful at worst and a total joke at best.

Another massive fail brought to you by TPTW.


Anyway, I am continuing to watch the Yellowstone and other situations. YMR is continuing to show an interesting activity up-tick and the weird pattern at the YPC continues. What worries me the most right now is what has been going on in Okalahoma.

The recent Oklahoma quakes certainly seem unprecedented, and in my mind not well explained. If it is the Farallon plate, it is very deep, and could possibly be related to the fearsome New Madrid and has possible significant implications for Yellowstone as well.

The following explains it well, I am always afraid of the copyright police, so I wont quote, but this is quite interesting. I do not know if the Oklahoma quakes (and possibly Colorado quakes) were tied to the Farallon, but it certainly bears watching and seems to be related to deep mid-continental quakes. The Juan de Fuca Plate is a remnant part of the (now largely subducted under the North American Plate) Farallon plate. (P.S. Thanks Jefiner for bringing up the Farallon with respect to the Oklahoma quakes, you are a genuis)

[link to www.livescience.com]

[link to showme.net]

America's Foundation:

[link to www.newscientist.com]


[link to www.sciencedaily.com]

The Farallon also ties into Yellowstone, as it pretty much is the broken foundation below the North American plate.

[i]“New Tomographic Images of the Yellowstone Plume and its Interaction with the Farallon Plate From the Integrated Analysis of Body and Surface Waves”

"The “S” shape of the anomaly in the transition zone and lower mantle seems to be structurally linked with the fragments of the Farallon slab, suggesting these feature have been interacting. In particular, we propose that the arrival and emplacement of the large Yellowstone plume promoted the tearing and weakening of the Farallon slab, and that the presence of the resulting fragments of the later caused the plume to deviated from its vertical ascent.

[link to adsabs.harvard.edu]


Someone discuses this halfway down on this page, and I would not really disagree with what was said here.

[link to alienessence.the-harbingers.com]

Was our coalmine canary chirping away in Okalahoma?

I don’t know but will keep watching.

Hugs to all of my GLP friends.


P.S. (and very off topic) I was looking for something to link about neural programming and patterning and found this very very creepy video. WTF is up with this guy and his face changes? Totally creepy. (Shut the volume off I think there may be some neuro-linguistic programming attempt in the video.)

[link to www.dailymotion.com]

Last Edited by emerald eye on 11/09/2011 06:19 PM

Emerald eye,

You have done great research and provided excellent information. Props to you

In light of this though, why do you willfully degrade yourself and others like you by calling yourself a 'tard'? You don't have to be like the rest of the arrogant crowd here who have no love in their hearts.

Be different. Be peculiar. Be yourself. You are NOT a tard.

Thanks friend,

You are very kind, and I mean no disrespect to myself or any other amateur geologist by using the term “magmatard”.

I think "magmatard" rather denotes a certain freedom from the restraints of academia such as fearing a loss of tenure, grant money, and peer respect.

We magmatards are free to question, explore, and theorize without restriction. I am also very well aware of the controls that are inherently placed, and the expectations to conform within academic structures.

Here we magmatards are free.

It is also a reminder to myself, never to take myself too seriously, but to always question, examine, and re-think.

Plus it appeals to my wacky sense of humor.

Hugs to you, ee.


Last Edited by emerald eye on 11/09/2011 06:49 PM

Compare the figures in this paper:

“Descent of the ancient Farallon slab drives localized mantle flow below the New Madrid seismic zone” (especially the maps showing viscous flow and figures (a) on page on both pages 3 and figures (a) & (b) on page 4)

[link to www.auburn.edu]

with this map of the recent quakes in the eastern and central US:

[link to folkworm.ceri.memphis.edu]

great thread. I am learning alot. Thanks!

If you look at the lines in figure (a) on page 4, and visualize the boxed area sinking, (New Madrid), see the stress pulling (traction vectors) around Colorado, Oklahoma from the west, and on the opposite side, east, near Virginia and Tennessee, all pulling towards the box.

[link to www.auburn.edu]


It makes me wonder, if the box sinks (New Madrid), does it increase the pressure somewhere else, associated with this system like Yellowstone?

Last Edited by emerald eye on 11/09/2011 10:28 PM

Emerald. If you have a moment can you pop in to the El Hierro thread by Idgits? I would really appreciate this.

We have questions about the calibration of seismographs among other things. See my post on page 356 and 358, along with a few smaller posts from Idgits.

I thought you might have knowledge about this topic, so hope you don't mind me bringing up your name as someone who might have understanding that can be passed on. I'd rather not clutter up your thread with these posts.

Thank you in advance!

I love that thread, and will pop back to take a look. It looks like the area is continuing to be quite active.

My recollection is that the settings were not overtly displayed on their sensors.

Since the information is in Spanish, (not a strong point for me in terms of linguistics) it may take some time to sort out.

I will look tomorrow, as my eyelids are getting heeeeeavy

3.3 Western Montana,today (11-11-11)

[link to neic.usgs.gov]


Showed up on Yellowstone.

[link to www.isthisthingon.org]

Hay Emerald Eye did you notice all the quakes around the u.s. seem to me going towards Yellowstone take a look at the map anyone got any ideals????????

Here is the map so you guys can see the quakes that seem to be lining up with Yellowstone.



[link to quakes.globalincidentmap.com]

I was also wandering i am watching the old faithful web cam and old faithful is giving off a lot of steam more that i have seen before like a steady stream of steam it just seams a bit odd any ideals.

Yes,

I really think that it may be due to some activity within the Farallon plate which is possibly related to the New Madrid fault, Yellowstone, and to some of the major fault lines in the Western US.

Its like a sleeping giant underneath the US, I hope it stays somewhat asleep.

[link to www.geology.wisc.edu]

[link to showme.net]



Some interesting patterns today also.

[link to www.isthisthingon.org]

Watching…..

Last Edited by emerald eye on 11/17/2011 05:22 PM

I am not quite sure what is going on here tonight at YPC (and a few others) but it is beginning to look a bit too interesting….

[link to www.isthisthingon.org]

[link to www.isthisthingon.org]

This is sort of cool, related to the Yellowstone hotspot and the Farallon:


[link to www.earthscope.org]

[link to gsa.confex.com]

Good night everyone.

Last Edited by emerald eye on 11/18/2011 01:44 AM

There have been some pretty strange patterns in the park over the last several months, but a very interesting one is going on at LKWY this AM. I haven’t had time to analyze it much yet, any thoughts?

It makes me wonder if the Farallon is doing anything new. I know there was a new sinkhole in Oklahoma last week. Has there been any unusual New Madrid activity recently?

[link to www.isthisthingon.org]

[link to www.isthisthingon.org]

That looks like hermonic tremors to me. It looks like all the other hermonic tremor examples I have seen on line.

emerald eye

Wow, my first troll on this thread. We must be on to something.

Thanks for the validation.

Ya don't say anything if you are just going to be rude. if you don't want to read it then don't. There are poeple like me who think Emerald is on the right path and is helping us by telling us what she thinks and sees.

Thanks friend.

I will continue to do my best. Things do seem to have settled down again for the moment anyway. I find geology to be fascinating, and I hope that others do as well.


The following are excepts a from an abstract presented at the 2011 GSA (Geological Society of America) at the annual meeting in October 2011.

This paper is quite recent, and actually dovetails very nicely with some of the directions that thread has taken. One of the questions that has been discussed about Yellowstone is the "deep mantle plume theory" versus some other explanation of "hotspots" causing mid-plate volcanism.


"Nearly all new body wave tomographic models utilizing EarthScope data show a distinct swath of strongly reduced seismic wave speeds extending laterally from the central SRP to Yellowstone, extending to depths of no greater than ~200 km. There is no evidence for a singular, concentrated conduit of reduced velocities below 200 km, as expected from a focused mantle plume upwelling"

"An alternative to the plume model involves mantle flow around a stranded fragment of the Farallon plate whose northern edge parallels the SRP, and whose eastern edge is beneath Yellowstone. Flow of deep mantle around this sinking portion of the Farallon would introduce ascending mantle beneath the whole of the YSRP, not just Yellowstone, and could also explain the significant tectonomagmatism of the Columbia River flood basalt event and continuing volcanic activity on the High Lava Plains."

[link to gsa.confex.com]

(GLP cut paste and copyright rules respected. "Permission is hereby granted to the author(s) of this abstract to reproduce and distribute it freely, for noncommercial purposes.")

I will have access to the full article at work tomorrow, and try to update a bit, but I am becoming more and more convinced that the old Farallon plate (the remnants of which are the Juan de Fuca, Rivera, and Cocos Plates)is responsible not only for much of the tectonic activity in the western United States, including the Yellowstone volcano, and the Newberry hotspot, but also more recently suggestions are being made to relate it to the New Madrid earthquake zone. In essence I believe that they all may share a common denominator.

The following is a good discussion of this by Dr. Humphreys:

[link to pages.uoregon.edu]

This paper also has some nice images in it, also by Dr. Humphreys:

[link to pages.uoregon.edu]


Here is another paper referencing the teleseismic mapping of the Yellowstone region by Dr. Humphreys:
[link to pages.uoregon.edu]

Some interesting images and discussion here as well:

[link to snobear.colorado.edu]

Hi Emerald, first thing... Merry Christmas

Second...

Pelican Cone has been showing some unusual activity the last few days. I made a thread on it and then on searching GLP for past threads yours popped up.

As your thread is related to mine, I hope you didn't mind me linking to yours and yours to mine. I think there is some good information between us that I feel needs fellow GLPer's to look at and work out what the hell is going on over there.

Your information is fantastic by the way and I have give you credit in my thread. Hope you can pop to mine sometime and compare notes with a nice

Thanks

Last Edited by Gizzie on 12/25/2011 03:58 AM

I also live in Wyoming. If this thing goes off like they say it will........I'm toast! I watched on TV where, I'm supposed to be buried in 8 feet of ash in mere minutes. All I can do, is prepare for the worst and hope for the best.

Let's hope GLP effect might kick in and this don't happen..

Strange things are happening. My thread and this thread has confirmed this. There is talks on here about the East sides sensors running on different frequencies than those of the rest of the park, why is what needs answering.....

Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays to you as well. I am just starting my "amazing five hour duck recipe" ymmmmmy.

[link to www.globalgourmet.com]

Thanks for your kind comments about this thread. I did notice also that there have been some anomalies at Pelican Cone. Last night when I checked, they had shut down the recording at around 1900 hours even on the University of Utah site.

[link to www.seis.utah.edu]

It was updated last night, and this is what it looked like:


[link to isthisthingon.org]

[link to isthisthingon.org]


Here is today, so it has appeared to quiet down a bit:

[link to isthisthingon.org]

Now as to possible causes?

Road construction or other human activities? On Christmas eve in Wyoming? HAHAHAHAHA The only thing that stays open on Christmas eve in Wyoming are the hospitals and Wal-Mart.

Wind? I would expect a different type of signal. Wind often seems to "vibrate the other sensors as well, so no, I don't think that is the correct explanation.

Figure 2 on this page shows wind and wave action from a hurricane:
[link to web.ics.purdue.edu]

It was a bit breezy last night but typical for this time of year and no hurricane.

[link to www.nws.noaa.gov]

(The wind is supposed to get much worse later today, so I will keep an eye on that.)

Ice breaking? This time of year and elevation? HAHAHAHAHA

Animal activity? At this time of year the Animals of Yellowstone are in the Valleys. YPC (Yellowstone Pelican Cone) is a peak.

[link to www.peakbagger.com]

The other common "explanation" is a "broken" or "Malfunctioning sensor." It is true that the Yellowstone environment is a harsh one, and sensors do get broken. Yet it is amazing to me how often these sensors supposedly "don't work correctly". I don't think the sensors are "self-healing" though so I really don't believe it is just a malfunction, as it seems to happen frequently there, then reverts back to more normal patterns

That pretty much leaves geothermal activity or other geologic activity. I am unaware of any major geothermal activity in that particular area, although I am sure that some exists, after all it is Yellowstone.

That leaves magmatic activity. My guess is this represents some type of magma movement with rock fracturing, perhaps a dyke shearing form deep magma forces.

[link to www.nap.edu]


[link to www.agu.org]

[link to www.scielo.cl]

Does that mean that Yellowstone is about the "Blow" I sure hope not, I think it will take more than just this signal.

However, that being stated, no geologist alive has ever witnessed or recorded a super volcano-eruption or its precursors, so honestly it is all an educated guess.

Holiday Cheer to everyone,

Last Edited by emerald eye on 12/25/2011 12:15 PM