FORBES: No Way Out Of EU Crisis | |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 4503601 Ireland 11/02/2011 03:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Oooh dear. Do we really need to explain the basics again. This is part of what got us into the mess; the belief that money (and hence 'value') can just be manufactured out of nothing. Yeah well , things are already fuked . They are. But printing more money just prolonges the 'fuckedness'. If everyone is 'printing more' then things will be exactly the same, just with different amounts of zeros on the end of the figures; but the same proportions of messed up crap. Yeah I agree , I wonder how long we have before it all collapses ??? It won't be a lot of fun , probably will have to give up GLP and a lot of other comforts . |
cdevidal
User ID: 15496 United States 11/02/2011 03:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The Forbes article doesn't tell the whole story. When you factor in derivatives, the fit has officially hit the shan: Thread: Two Financial Nukes Explode... :skippersho: Last Edited by SlowBro on 11/02/2011 03:33 PM |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1242054 Canada 11/02/2011 03:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Essentially, the markets right now are wondering: “Does France have enough money to pay what they’ve said they will pay?”. Disturbingly, the answer at the moment is, “well, we’re not sure”. If the answer ever becomes “no” then that’s it, game over. Quoting: MARTIAL LAW Yes, there is an answer to this. The ECB (like the Fed) could simply print the money and buy all the bonds. Sure, there would be inflation but so what? However, it would be illegal for the ECB to do that. (my note: This is NOT a solution as we know). It isn’t really obvious that there is a way out of this. As Paul Krugman says, we shouldn’t be here, the system should never have been designed the way it was. But it was and we are and, well, it might just be that there really, really, isn’t a nice way to get out of this problem. [link to www.forbes.com] Fact: Printing of new paper money has been stopped. By who, is not important. Greece should not pay its debt. It was frauduent debt, nothing differnt from the fraudulent credit card you carry or the fraudulent house mortgage loan you pay every month. That is why the banksters are happy to at least get back 50% of what Greece owe. The banksters have no more money. Do not let them get more money from tax payers through greece bailouts. The 1% elite days are numbered. The FIAT money days are numbered. It has been in the works of its fall for years. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1242054 Canada 11/02/2011 03:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Essentially, the markets right now are wondering: “Does France have enough money to pay what they’ve said they will pay?”. Disturbingly, the answer at the moment is, “well, we’re not sure”. If the answer ever becomes “no” then that’s it, game over. Quoting: MARTIAL LAW Yes, there is an answer to this. The ECB (like the Fed) could simply print the money and buy all the bonds. Sure, there would be inflation but so what? However, it would be illegal for the ECB to do that. (my note: This is NOT a solution as we know). It isn’t really obvious that there is a way out of this. As Paul Krugman says, we shouldn’t be here, the system should never have been designed the way it was. But it was and we are and, well, it might just be that there really, really, isn’t a nice way to get out of this problem. [link to www.forbes.com] Fact: Printing of new paper money has been stopped. By who, is not important. Greece should not pay its debt. It was frauduent debt, nothing differnt from the fraudulent credit card you carry or the fraudulent house mortgage loan you pay every month. That is why the banksters are happy to at least get back 50% of what Greece owe. The banksters have no more money. Do not let them get more money from tax payers through greece bailouts. The 1% elite days are numbered. The FIAT money days are numbered. It has been in the works of its fall for years. |
MrOysterhead
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 4478893 Germany 11/02/2011 03:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Essentially, the markets right now are wondering: “Does France have enough money to pay what they’ve said they will pay?”. Disturbingly, the answer at the moment is, “well, we’re not sure”. If the answer ever becomes “no” then that’s it, game over. Quoting: MARTIAL LAW Yes, there is an answer to this. The ECB (like the Fed) could simply print the money and buy all the bonds. Sure, there would be inflation but so what? However, it would be illegal for the ECB to do that. (my note: This is NOT a solution as we know). It isn’t really obvious that there is a way out of this. As Paul Krugman says, we shouldn’t be here, the system should never have been designed the way it was. But it was and we are and, well, it might just be that there really, really, isn’t a nice way to get out of this problem. [link to www.forbes.com] I am really not surprised, because it was all only an experiment....the second after the communism. lol |
cdevidal
User ID: 594210 United States 11/02/2011 03:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If you ignore conspiracy theory things start getting interesting by 2013-ish. If you go for conspiracy, sooner. No matter what, given the extreme number of wild issues spinning around right now (this is only one of them), expect hard times within your lifetimes. Prepare. Here's some freebies: [link to www.godlikeproductions.com] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1242054 Canada 11/02/2011 03:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 1. all major Deep Underground Military Bases by the dark cabals have been destroyed. 2. Officially 80+ countries have already joined the new alliance to crush the dark cabals 3. Printing of new money (not backed by precius metals) has been stopped 4. New monetary system is ready to go for introduction - just waiting for the right moment - perhaps the collapse 5. Arrests have been made against the dark cabals. Thule, Skulls and Bones, etc 6. the only countries the dark cabals have stronghold are U.S., Britain, France, Germany and Italy. - but soon they will be crushed... 7. BRICS (Brazil, Russia, China, India and South African countries) and in alliance to lead the introduction of new monetary system that is pro-people. |
my2centsworth
User ID: 1307594 Canada 11/02/2011 03:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I just came across this story and thought you may be interested. It pertains to some of what got the world to this critical place in time and reads like a suspense-thriller novel. Quote: QUITE A REMARKABLE STORY written by David Wilcock on Oct 31/11 I have carefully followed the Benjamin Fulford story since he first emerged on the Internet a few years ago.... It is quite a remarkable tale -- wherein a former Asia-Pacific bureau chief for Forbes Magazine stumbles into the dark world of international finance and control, and ends up becoming a key player in opposing it. Fulford discovered this quasi-governmental group had genocidal plans for humanity -- and were siphoning off massive amounts of money from the Japanese economy that could have been used to end poverty and environmental destruction. He was then contacted by positive Asian secret societies who have been resisting the Old World Order. Now, with an English-speaking Westerner they could trust, these people were able to get the truth out to the Western world. Since these early days, their alliance has grown dramatically -- to the point now that apparently 100 different countries are aligned in their efforts to overthrow the Old World Order and restore peace and prosperity to the people of this planet. It is not easy for these resistance groups to communicate publicly, due to the extensive use of murder, threats, bribery and blackmail by the Old World Order. As soon as anyone sticks their neck out, their head could easily get chopped off. Fulford claims to have survived multiple attempts on his life, and still lives to tell this amazing tale of international intrigue. End Quote: There really is more to what is happening in our world than meets the eye! The full story is at: [link to www.divinecosmos.com] edit to add interview link: Sept 16/11 Interview: [link to divinecosmos.com] Last Edited by my2centsworth on 11/02/2011 04:13 PM |
cdevidal
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MrOysterhead
User ID: 1546790 United States 11/02/2011 03:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 1. all major Deep Underground Military Bases by the dark cabals have been destroyed. 2. Officially 80+ countries have already joined the new alliance to crush the dark cabals 3. Printing of new money (not backed by precius metals) has been stopped 4. New monetary system is ready to go for introduction - just waiting for the right moment - perhaps the collapse 5. Arrests have been made against the dark cabals. Thule, Skulls and Bones, etc 6. the only countries the dark cabals have stronghold are U.S., Britain, France, Germany and Italy. - but soon they will be crushed... 7. BRICS (Brazil, Russia, China, India and South African countries) and in alliance to lead the introduction of new monetary system that is pro-people. um....that wasnt really an answer. but thanks for the list of stuff i have no idea about. There are two kinds of people who come to GLP: Those who want to know and those who want to know who wants to know. |
cdevidal
User ID: 511509 United States 11/02/2011 04:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Well it's kinda an answer if you're into conspiracy. I'm not. I'm into stuff any Democrat can verify with Wikipedia, and we're in heap big trouble. Last Edited by SlowBro on 11/02/2011 04:00 PM |
MrOysterhead
User ID: 1546790 United States 11/02/2011 04:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Well it's kinda an answer if you're into conspiracy. I'm not. I'm into stuff any Democrat can verify with Wikipedia, and we're in heap big trouble. Quoting: cdevidal kinda but didnt give a time frame which is what i was asking for. no need to add conspiracy here, its real and its happening in front of the whole world There are two kinds of people who come to GLP: Those who want to know and those who want to know who wants to know. |
smokahontas
User ID: 4505675 United States 11/02/2011 04:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | yep...it really is incredible...I almost admire how long the PTB have been able to keep the game going. Until the cable goes out you wont hear a peep from the sheep "I may not agree with what you say, but I would defend to the death your right to say it." Voltaire "Facts do not cease to exist just because they are ignored." Aldous Huxley |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 4504723 Italy 11/02/2011 04:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | One day you present a haircut in a couple of days speculators destroy the haircut effects and new more dramatic solution "mast" be applied This night the Italian Parlment will pass with the excuse of the drama new taxations THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT DIRECTLY TAKE MONEY FROM PEOPLE BANK ACCOUNTS IT"S WAR! |
cdevidal
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my2centsworth
User ID: 1307594 Canada 11/02/2011 04:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If you can get past Fulford, clearing his throat, on this interview... this really is interesting.. Is it true? I don't know, but it sure sounds like it could very well be true. Do take the time to listen to this interview. Interview: [link to divinecosmos.com] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1552402 United States 11/02/2011 04:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Essentially, the markets right now are wondering: “Does France have enough money to pay what they’ve said they will pay?”. Disturbingly, the answer at the moment is, “well, we’re not sure”. If the answer ever becomes “no” then that’s it, game over. Quoting: MARTIAL LAW Yes, there is an answer to this. The ECB (like the Fed) could simply print the money and buy all the bonds. Sure, there would be inflation but so what? However, it would be illegal for the ECB to do that. (my note: This is NOT a solution as we know). It isn’t really obvious that there is a way out of this. As Paul Krugman says, we shouldn’t be here, the system should never have been designed the way it was. But it was and we are and, well, it might just be that there really, really, isn’t a nice way to get out of this problem. [link to www.forbes.com] Well, the elites seem to be dragging their feet on tall this stuff. This should have hit the fan a long time ago, wondering what they are waiting for? |
smokahontas
User ID: 4505675 United States 11/02/2011 04:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | To finish draining the money out of the markets. Transferring the wealth. Once they declare a bank holiday and drain your pensions they will be done. "I may not agree with what you say, but I would defend to the death your right to say it." Voltaire "Facts do not cease to exist just because they are ignored." Aldous Huxley |
~^PropHeTic^~
User ID: 4507226 United Kingdom 11/02/2011 04:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | yep...it really is incredible...I almost admire how long the PTB have been able to keep the game going. thats what confusing me the most. granted i am no market whiz but with all this EU financial doom going on why isnt our market tanking? Its all electronic data hence is easily manipulated by banks and TPTB to keep the fake system going. Last Edited by ~^PropHeTic^~ on 11/02/2011 04:32 PM ^PropHeTic^ |
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cdevidal
User ID: 459710 United States 11/02/2011 04:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I wonder how many of you are aware that if God's will was done on earth as it was in Heaven, money would no longer be needed. Quoting: tcs 1445810 No wonder Jesus told us to pray "The will be done on earth as it tis in Heaven." Takes many regenerated hearts for that to be a reality. As long as selfishness exists, so will money, with all of its pros and cons. |
~^PropHeTic^~
User ID: 4507226 United Kingdom 11/02/2011 04:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Essentially, the markets right now are wondering: “Does France have enough money to pay what they’ve said they will pay?”. Disturbingly, the answer at the moment is, “well, we’re not sure”. If the answer ever becomes “no” then that’s it, game over. Quoting: MARTIAL LAW Yes, there is an answer to this. The ECB (like the Fed) could simply print the money and buy all the bonds. Sure, there would be inflation but so what? However, it would be illegal for the ECB to do that. (my note: This is NOT a solution as we know). It isn’t really obvious that there is a way out of this. As Paul Krugman says, we shouldn’t be here, the system should never have been designed the way it was. But it was and we are and, well, it might just be that there really, really, isn’t a nice way to get out of this problem. [link to www.forbes.com] Well, the elites seem to be dragging their feet on tall this stuff. This should have hit the fan a long time ago, wondering what they are waiting for? The Elite base their judgements and events on specific dates, moon cycles, numerology and planetary/star alignments. IMHO they're locked onto a fixed date in the future (probably autumn of next year) for the Global Meltdown scenario, hence are leading all the events to that date by keeping the fake financial system alive for as long as possible. IMHO the Global Economic Meltdown will take place some time AFTER the 2012 London Olympics. And then, World War 3 should be taking place sometime in 2013. Last Edited by ~^PropHeTic^~ on 11/02/2011 04:39 PM ^PropHeTic^ |
CI.95
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BigBuddha
User ID: 1547660 Netherlands 11/02/2011 04:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Oooh dear. Do we really need to explain the basics again. This is part of what got us into the mess; the belief that money (and hence 'value') can just be manufactured out of nothing. Yeah well , things are already fuked . Hallelujaaa "The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, and wiser people so full of doubts." "It is no measure of health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society" |
cdevidal
User ID: 511509 United States 11/02/2011 04:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I've been hearing and reading this for about a year now.. they always manage to pull a rabbit out of the hat and extend the death knell a few more months... wonder how many more rabbits they have? Quoting: my2centsworth Have no fear, it approaches infinity. If by rabbits in hats you mean paper from printers then yes, it approaches infinity. |
my2centsworth
User ID: 1307594 Canada 11/02/2011 04:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I've been hearing and reading this for about a year now.. they always manage to pull a rabbit out of the hat and extend the death knell a few more months... wonder how many more rabbits they have? Quoting: my2centsworth Have no fear, it approaches infinity. If by rabbits in hats you mean paper from printers then yes, it approaches infinity. I think you're right about that! Have you had a chance to listen to the Fulford interview? I'm still listening to it.. and all I can say is "Holy Shit" If Fulford is telling the truth.. there are more than a few "Hitler like" people in the "Elites". Sometimes I really do think, Ignorance is bliss! |
allegro
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