"The Coming Starvation In America" America´s Food Surpluses dwindle from 3 years per person to less than one day´s worth... | |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 31749 Ireland 10/14/2005 11:59 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: "The Coming Starvation In America" America´s Food Surpluses dwindle from 3 years per person to less than one day´s worth... Sinanju ... That would make ´new´ political sense, in light of what the OP says. Before you know it, they may not allow you to take more than 10 breaths per minute. But, comes the revolution comrade...... P.S. They WON´T get the guns, if I know the vets. |
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User ID: 21235 United States 10/14/2005 12:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: "The Coming Starvation In America" America´s Food Surpluses dwindle from 3 years per person to less than one day´s worth... I believe it is now against the law for an individual citizen to stockpile more than something like 3 months of food.<<<< Public law 100-690 IIRC. Be warned, Be prepared. Handguns are a skill; shotguns an art; rifles a science. _____________________________________ Democracy is two wolves and a sheep voting on whats for dinner. Disarmament is the precursor to Genocide. Better to take action now rather than chances later. Your choice. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 11416 United States 10/14/2005 12:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: "The Coming Starvation In America" America´s Food Surpluses dwindle from 3 years per person to less than one day´s worth... In Texas, it is illegal to curse in front of, or indecently expose oneself to, a corpse. In Michigan, a man legally owns his wife´s hair. Kansas law prohibits shooting rabbits from a motorboat. In Idaho, the law states all boxes of candy given as romantic gifts must weigh more than 50 pounds. It´s against the law to catch fish with your bare hands in Kansas. In California, animals are banned from mating publicly within 1,500 feet of a tavern, school or place of worship. In Washington state, it´s against the law to sleep in an outhouse without the owner´s permission. Putting salt on a railroad track can be punishable by death in the state of Alabama. In Texas, it´s illegal to put graffiti on someone else´s cow. In Alabama, dominoes may not be played on Sunday. In New York City, it´s illegal to shake a dust mop out a window. In Connorsville, Wisconsin a man is legally prohibited from shooting a gun while his female partner is having an orgasm. In New York, it´s against the law to throw a ball at someone´s head for fun. In Pueblo, Colorado, it is illegal to let a dandelion grow within city limits. In the state of Washington, it´s illegal to catch a fish by throwing a rock at it. It is illegal to lie down and fall asleep with your shoes on in North Dakota. In Berkeley, California, you can´t whistle for an escaped bird before 7:00 a.m. An old law in Bellingham, Washington, made it illegal for a woman to take anything other than backwards steps while dancing. In California, it is a misdemeanor to shoot at any kind of game from a moving vehicle, unless the target is a whale. In Florida, having sexual relations with a porcupine is illegal. San Francisco bans any "mechanical device that reproduces obscene language." In Nogales, Arizona, it is illegal to wear suspenders. In Atlanta, Georgia, it is illegal to tie a giraffe to a telephone pole or street lamp. In Logan County, Colorado, it´s illegal for a man to kiss a woman while she´s asleep. There´s a San Francisco law that states it´s illegal to play poker in public or gamble in a barricaded room. In the state of Texas, it is illegal to take more than three sips of beer at a time while standing. A person is not eligible to become governor in Pennsylvania if they have participated in a duel. It´s against the law for a woman to drive in a house coat in California. In Texas, it´s illegal to milk another person´s cow. |
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bundy User ID: 5470 United States 10/14/2005 12:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: "The Coming Starvation In America" America´s Food Surpluses dwindle from 3 years per person to less than one day´s worth... HEY we put that food to good use, turned it into such useless eaters as third world street trash, american project niggers, and euro trash fags I mean, OUR children will starve, but thats progess |
Omega
User ID: 21235 United States 10/14/2005 12:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: "The Coming Starvation In America" America´s Food Surpluses dwindle from 3 years per person to less than one day´s worth... It´s internet jargon for "If I Recall Correctly" I looked this up years ago in the UT Austin law library, so I don´t remember if I have the number right or not, but usually I do. I have tried to find this on the net and cannot. BTW I believe it is 30 days, not 90.... Handguns are a skill; shotguns an art; rifles a science. _____________________________________ Democracy is two wolves and a sheep voting on whats for dinner. Disarmament is the precursor to Genocide. Better to take action now rather than chances later. Your choice. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 4700 United States 10/14/2005 12:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: "The Coming Starvation In America" America´s Food Surpluses dwindle from 3 years per person to less than one day´s worth... Any one with a freezer and that shops at Costco or Sam´s Club has more than 30 days of food. I am sure I could stretch my pantry to last 60 days with no problem... and that is with no effort to stockpile... just buying bulk to save money. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 30141 United States 10/14/2005 12:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: "The Coming Starvation In America" America´s Food Surpluses dwindle from 3 years per person to less than one day´s worth... AC:463, re IIRC, dah.. like I feel so dumb. LOL I think those of us that are American citizens need to spend far more time reading the bills that are before our Congress and also updating ourselves on all the existing public laws that they have passed. Most of America has very much been passed out at the wheel. |
bundy User ID: 5470 United States 10/14/2005 12:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: "The Coming Starvation In America" America´s Food Surpluses dwindle from 3 years per person to less than one day´s worth... hey 1048, WHATS THIS BULLSHIT TALK ABOUT A FUKKIN freezer!!! And just what are you gonna run that freezer on during an emergency, COWFARTS? YEAH, go stock up that lil old freeezer dude, you are just SO smart, to be so preparded and all |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 11416 United States 10/14/2005 12:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: "The Coming Starvation In America" America´s Food Surpluses dwindle from 3 years per person to less than one day´s worth... For Hawaii, this information will be found in Title 10 under "Public Safety". It is located after legislation on militias, state guard troops, etc. Then you find the jewel... In Hawaii you are considered a "hoarder" if you have more than one week´s provisions on hand BUT you have to dig to uncover this information. Here is a specific example: "HAWAII REVISED STATUTES REVISED 1997, Title 10: (1) Prevention of *hoarding, waste, etc. To the extent necessary to prevent hoarding, waste, or destruction of materials, supplies, commodities, accommodations, facilities, and services, to effectuate equitable distribution thereof, or to establish priorities therein as the public welfare may require, to investigate, and any other law to the contrary notwithstanding, to regulate or prohibit, by means of licensing, rationing, or otherwise, the storage, transportation, use, possession, maintenance, furnishing, sale, or distribution thereof, and any business or any transaction related thereto." Committee Notes? Huh? In the actual Title document for Hawaii, you will not find the specifics for what length of time constitutes "hoarding" nor an amount. Instead, you must look at the committee notes which describes it as the opinion that one week´s supplies per person is considered adequate food provisions. It is not spelled out what those provisions shall consist of or how much is considered "adequate" until you get to the committee notes. You will probably have to "dig" for the committee notes as well. Lynn Shaffer, our legislative interpreter, explains committee notes this way. "When the legislature agrees that a law or statute is needed to effect certain governmental goals to prohibit or encourage civilians to respond in a particular way, that statute has attached to it (you will see it printed in the law books) what is called "committee notes." The courts, when making a determination of how the statute is to be interpreted and applied to the case before it, looks to "legislative intent" or what was recorded in the committee´s notes when the bill was meandering its way through the legislative process." OK, So If I Hoard, Then What? Again using Hawaii´s Titles as an example, any items in excess of what legislation has deemed appropriate to store (in Hawaii´s case any amount over 1 week) is subject to forfeiture and may be confiscated, ordered destroyed or may be redistributed for public use. See exact text below: "128-28 Forfeitures. The forfeiture of any property unlawfully possessed, pursuant to paragraph (2) of section 128-8, may be adjudged upon conviction of the offender found to be unlawfully in possession of the same, where no person other than the offender is entitled to notice and hearing with respect to the forfeiture, or the forfeiture may be enforced by an appropriate civil proceeding brought in the name of the State. The district courts and circuit courts shall have concurrent jurisdiction of the civil proceedings. Any property forfeited as provided in this section may be ordered destroyed, or may be ordered delivered for public use to such agency as shall be designated by the governor or the governor´s representative, or may be ordered sold, wholly or partially, for the account of the State. [L 1951, c 268, pt of 2; RL 1955, 359-25; HRS 128- 28; am imp L 1984, c 90, 1]"...... [link to members.aol.com] |
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AC User ID: 14521 United States 10/14/2005 02:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: "The Coming Starvation In America" America´s Food Surpluses dwindle from 3 years per person to less than one day´s worth... Does anyone remember where the posting is about the presidential executive orders? I believe one of them had to do with confiscation of food and water from private citizens in the case of an emergency. |
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john paul User ID: 2715 United States 10/14/2005 03:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: "The Coming Starvation In America" America´s Food Surpluses dwindle from 3 years per person to less than one day´s worth... what are you guys talking about,and were do you get your information/////i used to work in a grain elevator,and we never storged grain for the u.s. govt..we did have gonernment storage for the porpose of paying back to the govt loans the farmers used. |
NawtyBits*nli User ID: 28362 United States 10/14/2005 03:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: "The Coming Starvation In America" America´s Food Surpluses dwindle from 3 years per person to less than one day´s worth... >>>Any one with a freezer and that shops at Costco or Sam´s Club has more than 30 days of food. Im not sure people realize how much 30 days worth of food is. Add family members and whoa... I know MY freeze won´t feed me and mine for 30 days...You would have to PLAN, not just buy shit and freeze it. IF you need this food in a real situation, you want meat, not toaster strudel or Lean Cuisine. Bulk goes farther than prepackaged. Really sit down and inventory what you have, if you are serious. I figure if I have to feed a family of 5, 2 meals a day, I can go for 6-8 months. BUT, I have been in to preparedness for 8 years now, too. It´s a slow process. And your inventory never goes as far as you think. And that doesn´t include hunting/fishing/gathering/gardening/livestock. Be Prepared. That is NOT bad advice. nawty |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1373 United States 10/14/2005 03:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: "The Coming Starvation In America" America´s Food Surpluses dwindle from 3 years per person to less than one day´s worth... Remember, there was enough grain in storage, paid for by the American tax-payer, to last the masses inside the United States for three full years, if need be. But now it all is but gone! -------------------------- No, I don´t remember. Where exactly was this grain being stored? |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 31383 United States 10/14/2005 03:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: "The Coming Starvation In America" America´s Food Surpluses dwindle from 3 years per person to less than one day´s worth... Not exactly fun, but I´ve lived off beans and rice and grits before. They don´t call them bean bags for nothing you know. Don´t think cops would bother to check the furniture much, plus there´s a defense to be had in court. That´s presuming I´m still alive after the shoot-out resulting from their entrance into my house...so I´ll be charged with murder I guess, food cache last. I take the saying that a mans´ house is his castle very seriously, enough to kill or be killed for it. Under Martial Law conditions, does that negate the constitutional rights for illegal search and siezure? If so, I consider Martial Law to be the equivalent of wartime conditions in which case I plan on fighting for my life. Literally. Ruby ridge, Waco, etc. I worry about water supplies. Everyone needs a water well if possible. Also ...multi-fuel stove, lantern, pressure cooker. Innocuous items such as a small, decent propane grill and several tanks (one tank lasts me all summer..and I grill alot!). Decent cache of kerosene. Worse comes to worse, I´ll resort to eating Doves. I have enough birds around me to survive. |
NawtyBits*nli User ID: 28362 United States 10/14/2005 03:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: "The Coming Starvation In America" America´s Food Surpluses dwindle from 3 years per person to less than one day´s worth... >>>what about my toilet paper.i have 2 cases of tp. Depends how many wipers you have. And what you are feeding them. And, if you are serious about this and not yanking my chain, if, in the unlikely event, the shit hits the fan, and recovery seems unlikely, TP will be better than GOLD, my friend. nawty |