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"The Coming Starvation In America" America´s Food Surpluses dwindle from 3 years per person to less than one day´s worth...

 
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The Coming Starvation In America
By James P. Wickstrom

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10-3-5

The government of the United States, by Law was to always maintain a three year mixed- grain survival storage for every man, woman, and child in the United States.

Like most Laws of the land, the politicians never took heed as to why our wise ancestors had this reserve requirement established. It was to make sure, that, in the time of a National Emergency, the people had the most important mainstay needed for survival individually and as a Nation.

Remember, the people make the Nation, the Nation does not make the people.

In the 1960´s and 1970´s the different political administrations of Washington, D.C. walked away from sanity and started to give the surplus grains which where in elevator storage all over the country, to other nations, such as the Soviet Union, India, etc.. This continued over two decades, until the elevators were empty and the reserve of grains that were in reserve as per a national crisis....were gone. Of course this was done as to inhance international "friendship" with other nations, even if those other nations were self-admitted enemies of the United States.

Remember, there was enough grain in storage, paid for by the American tax-payer, to last the masses inside the United States for three full years, if need be. But now it all is but gone!

By 1996, the United States Department of Agriculture (U.S.D.A.) claimed that there was enough food in ware-house storage to last every man, woman and child in the cities a 3 day supply and a 5 day supply for every man, woman, and child in the countryside, should a great national emergency occur. In other words, if food trucks stopped running, the food supplies for the masses would be 3 days in the cities and 5 days in the countryside.

In 2003, the U.S.D.A. stopped measuring for "days in reserve" of food for every man, woman, and child in the United States because the amount of food in storage in the United States dropped under a 1 day food supply for every man, woman, and child in the United States. Thus, the U.S.D.A. started to measure in individual pounds as to how much food was in the food-chain per person in the United States as per 300 million people.

In 2003, there was 77 pounds of food per person in the warehouse food-chain in the United States. What this means, is that during a national emergency, only 77 pounds of food per person is available before all food is TOTALLY GONE in the United States.

By September of 2005, there is now only 15.7 pounds of reserved foodstuffs in the food-chain for every man, woman, and child in the United States. This means that there has been an 80% decrease in the past two years. That decrease is becoming greater with every passing day in the United States. Of the 15.7 pounds of warehoused reserved food-stuffs, 11.0 pounds of the 15.7 pounds consists of unprocessed wheat. The rest of the 15.7 pounds of survival foods in storage for every man, woman, and child, totaling 4.7 pounds, consists of the following foods:

1. Non-fat dry milk 2. Cheese 3. Corn by the bushel 4. Peanuts by the pound 5. Lentils by the pound

That´s it folks ! . . . This is what the District of Columbia has set aside representing the 15.7 pounds in the survival food-chain for every man, woman, and child to stay alive on. This is not a daily supply, this amount represents the total food everyone will get for ....how long, who knows!

The U.S.D.A. Crop Production Report per September 12, 2005, contained said information, and this information was brought forth by Alan Guebert of the Farm & Food Report.

Collective communist farming failed in the Soviet Union and communist China, and the present form of Collective Farming (paying the farmers not to grow food) has totally failed in the United States.

Mr. Guebert also stated, that one more disaster as the likes of the hurricanes Katrina or Rita against the United States, or anything to compare to such in whatever way, would create such a food panic, it would make the New Orleans rioting look like the Mardi Gras.

The United States Government for the past 75 years has been driving the United States deeper and deeper into the realm of communism. The United States is financially broke, the farms are broken down, the Nation has been de-industrialized, and the outsourcing of jobs continues to this day. Both corrupt federal administrations, the Democrat and Republican eat off the same plate. They have labeled that plate; "Screw the taxpayer, each and every one of them."

Our European ancestors were very wise, honest and full of common sense. They had food cellars where they had food canned, that could last themwell over a year, insuring them that they would be able to plant a crop the following summer, and still be able to survive waiting for crops to mature and harvest. They did not rely on the corrupt politicans who are liars and thieves.

But as I said, time passed by and the people put a false trust in their elected and appointed public servants thinking that these same people were looking out for their personal interests. How sadly wrong the people were then, and still are.

In conclusion, I highly suggest that you pull your head out of the sand, check your food supplies, and if you do not have 6 months to a years food in reserve, then you had best sell something or do whatever you have to do, to immediately prepare yourself and your loved ones for safety. If you can store two years at this time: DO IT AS SOON AS POSSIBLE!

Remember, the 15.7 pounds of food in reserve is becoming less by the day, and at the present rate of speed, the United States is heading to what is called.... meal to meal. One more major disaster will drive the United States to its knees.

The federal government, for itself, has millions of tons of preserved foods stashed away in underground storages, but this food is not for the masses, unless they surrender their firearms, and then they will get a food coupon from the *feds* to buy out of the federal government food warehouse wherever it is set up in your area.

............. has always subjected and controlled the masses using FOOD. Remember, FOOD CONTROL IS PEOPLE CONTROL, and this same plan is being laid out laid out against the masses in the United States by COMMUNISTS in both the Republican and Democratic parties of the United States. New Orleans was your cue: Now prepare! You have been warned.

Your blood is off my hands!

James P. Wickstrom

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I believe it is now against the law for an individual citizen to stockpile more than something like 3 months of food.
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Sinanju ... That would make ´new´ political sense, in light of what the OP says.

Before you know it, they may not allow you to take more than 10 breaths per minute.

But, comes the revolution comrade......

P.S. They WON´T get the guns, if I know the vets.
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There is enough Long Pig to last a while.
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I believe it is now against the law for an individual citizen to stockpile more than something like 3 months of food.<<<<

Public law 100-690 IIRC.

Be warned, Be prepared.

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In Alabama, it is illegal to wear a fake mustache that causes laughter in church.

In Texas, it is illegal to curse in front of, or indecently expose oneself to, a corpse.

In Michigan, a man legally owns his wife´s hair.

Kansas law prohibits shooting rabbits from a motorboat.

In Idaho, the law states all boxes of candy given as romantic gifts must weigh more than 50 pounds.

It´s against the law to catch fish with your bare hands in Kansas.

In California, animals are banned from mating publicly within 1,500 feet of a tavern, school or place of worship.

In Washington state, it´s against the law to sleep in an outhouse without the owner´s permission.

Putting salt on a railroad track can be punishable by death in the state of Alabama.

In Texas, it´s illegal to put graffiti on someone else´s cow.

In Alabama, dominoes may not be played on Sunday.

In New York City, it´s illegal to shake a dust mop out a window.

In Connorsville, Wisconsin a man is legally prohibited from shooting a gun while his female partner is having an orgasm.

In New York, it´s against the law to throw a ball at someone´s head for fun.

In Pueblo, Colorado, it is illegal to let a dandelion grow within city limits.

In the state of Washington, it´s illegal to catch a fish by throwing a rock at it.

It is illegal to lie down and fall asleep with your shoes on in North Dakota.

In Berkeley, California, you can´t whistle for an escaped bird before 7:00 a.m.

An old law in Bellingham, Washington, made it illegal for a woman to take anything other than backwards steps while dancing.

In California, it is a misdemeanor to shoot at any kind of game from a moving vehicle, unless the target is a whale.

In Florida, having sexual relations with a porcupine is illegal.

San Francisco bans any "mechanical device that reproduces obscene language."

In Nogales, Arizona, it is illegal to wear suspenders.

In Atlanta, Georgia, it is illegal to tie a giraffe to a telephone pole or street lamp.

In Logan County, Colorado, it´s illegal for a man to kiss a woman while she´s asleep.

There´s a San Francisco law that states it´s illegal to play poker in public or gamble in a barricaded room.

In the state of Texas, it is illegal to take more than three sips of beer at a time while standing.

A person is not eligible to become governor in Pennsylvania if they have participated in a duel.

It´s against the law for a woman to drive in a house coat in California.

In Texas, it´s illegal to milk another person´s cow.
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Actually, I think it is more like 30 days worth of food supply. You can thank Mr. Bill Clinton for that, Due to Waco.
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AC:463 could you cite "Public law 100-690 IIRC"?
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I mean the particular "chapter and verse" I can find 100-690, but what is the IIRC part? This looks like a controled substance law.
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HEY we put that food to good use, turned it into such useless eaters as third world street trash, american project niggers, and euro trash fags
I mean, OUR children will starve, but thats progessppigbonghit
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IIRC"?<<<<

It´s internet jargon for "If I Recall Correctly"

I looked this up years ago in the UT Austin law library, so I don´t remember if I have the number right or not, but usually I do.

I have tried to find this on the net and cannot.
BTW I believe it is 30 days, not 90....
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30 days HELL, the average supply of food in this country is THREE DAYS, thats when the grocery shelves clear out without resupply.
A week later EVERYTHING is burnimg downdamned
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Any one with a freezer and that shops at Costco or Sam´s Club has more than 30 days of food.

I am sure I could stretch my pantry to last 60 days with no problem... and that is with no effort to stockpile... just buying bulk to save money.
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AC:463, re IIRC, dah.. like I feel so dumb. LOL

I think those of us that are American citizens need to spend far more time reading the bills that are before our Congress and also updating ourselves on all the existing public laws that they have passed. Most of America has very much been passed out at the wheel.
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hey 1048, WHATS THIS BULLSHIT TALK ABOUT A FUKKIN freezer!!!lmao

And just what are you gonna run that freezer on during an emergency, COWFARTS?
YEAH, go stock up that lil old freeezer dude, you are just SO smart, to be so preparded and allbeer2beer2
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... Hawaii As A Specific Example of Anti-Hoarding

For Hawaii, this information will be found in Title 10 under "Public Safety". It is located after legislation on militias, state guard troops, etc. Then you find the jewel... In Hawaii you are considered a "hoarder" if you have more than one week´s provisions on hand BUT you have to dig to uncover this information. Here is a specific example:

"HAWAII REVISED STATUTES REVISED 1997, Title 10:

(1) Prevention of *hoarding, waste, etc. To the extent necessary to prevent hoarding, waste, or destruction of materials, supplies, commodities, accommodations, facilities, and services, to effectuate equitable distribution thereof, or to establish priorities therein as the public welfare may require, to investigate, and any other law to the contrary notwithstanding, to regulate or prohibit, by means of licensing, rationing, or otherwise, the storage, transportation, use, possession, maintenance, furnishing, sale, or distribution thereof, and any business or any transaction related thereto."

Committee Notes? Huh?

In the actual Title document for Hawaii, you will not find the specifics for what length of time constitutes "hoarding" nor an amount. Instead, you must look at the committee notes which describes it as the opinion that one week´s supplies per person is considered adequate food provisions. It is not spelled out what those provisions shall consist of or how much is considered "adequate" until you get to the committee notes.

You will probably have to "dig" for the committee notes as well. Lynn Shaffer, our legislative interpreter, explains committee notes this way. "When the legislature agrees that a law or statute is needed to effect certain governmental goals to prohibit or encourage civilians to respond in a particular way, that statute has attached to it (you will see it printed in the law books) what is called "committee notes." The courts, when making a determination of how the statute is to be interpreted and applied to the case before it, looks to "legislative intent" or what was recorded in the committee´s notes when the bill was meandering its way through the legislative process."
OK, So If I Hoard, Then What?

Again using Hawaii´s Titles as an example, any items in excess of what legislation has deemed appropriate to store (in Hawaii´s case any amount over 1 week) is subject to forfeiture and may be confiscated, ordered destroyed or may be redistributed for public use. See exact text below:

"128-28 Forfeitures. The forfeiture of any property unlawfully possessed, pursuant to paragraph (2) of section 128-8, may be adjudged upon conviction of the offender found to be unlawfully in possession of the same, where no person other than the offender is entitled to notice and hearing with respect to the forfeiture, or the forfeiture may be enforced by an appropriate civil proceeding brought in the name of the State. The district courts and circuit courts shall have concurrent jurisdiction of the civil proceedings. Any property forfeited as provided in this section may be ordered destroyed, or may be ordered delivered for public use to such agency as shall be designated by the governor or the governor´s representative, or may be ordered sold, wholly or partially, for the account of the State. [L 1951, c 268, pt of 2; RL 1955, 359-25; HRS 128- 28; am imp L 1984, c 90, 1]"......
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I´ve got 5 boxes of Hostest Twinkies.
Should I turn them in or risk confescation?
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Does anyone remember where the posting is about the presidential executive orders? I believe one of them had to do with confiscation of food and water from private citizens in the case of an emergency.
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Seems that the looters furnish all of confiscation needed and in a timely mannor.
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Maybe that is why people are so overweight in the USA they are wearing their food store for the upcoming shortage.
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beware the ´fat police´ they may conficate your ass
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Insteand of throwing all that grain into cattle and eating them, try eating the grains directly. Saves a lot more food for everyone else.
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what are you guys talking about,and were do you get your information/////i used to work in a grain elevator,and we never storged grain for the u.s. govt..we did have gonernment storage for the porpose of paying back to the govt loans the farmers used.
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>>>Any one with a freezer and that shops at Costco or Sam´s Club has more than 30 days of food.

Im not sure people realize how much 30 days worth of food is. Add family members and whoa... I know MY freeze won´t feed me and mine for 30 days...You would have to PLAN, not just buy shit and freeze it. IF you need this food in a real situation, you want meat, not toaster strudel or Lean Cuisine. Bulk goes farther than prepackaged.

Really sit down and inventory what you have, if you are serious. I figure if I have to feed a family of 5, 2 meals a day, I can go for 6-8 months. BUT, I have been in to preparedness for 8 years now, too. It´s a slow process. And your inventory never goes as far as you think. And that doesn´t include hunting/fishing/gathering/gardening/livestock.

Be Prepared. That is NOT bad advice.

nawty
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Remember, there was enough grain in storage, paid for by the American tax-payer, to last the masses inside the United States for three full years, if need be. But now it all is but gone!
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No, I don´t remember. Where exactly was this grain being stored?
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what about my toilet paper.i have 2 cases of tp.
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>>>"Public law 100-690 IIRC"<<<

The only google reference to this ´law´ is from this site...

lmao
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Found it...

www.hawaii.edu/ohr/emp-d&b/drug/pl100690.pdf

Still trying to find where this outlaws food hoarding...

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Not exactly fun, but I´ve lived off beans and rice and grits before. They don´t call them bean bags for nothing you know. Don´t think cops would bother to check the furniture much, plus there´s a defense to be had in court. That´s presuming I´m still alive after the shoot-out resulting from their entrance into my house...so I´ll be charged with murder I guess, food cache last. I take the saying that a mans´ house is his castle very seriously, enough to kill or be killed for it. Under Martial Law conditions, does that negate the constitutional rights for illegal search and siezure? If so, I consider Martial Law to be the equivalent of wartime conditions in which case I plan on fighting for my life. Literally. Ruby ridge, Waco, etc. I worry about water supplies. Everyone needs a water well if possible. Also ...multi-fuel stove, lantern, pressure cooker. Innocuous items such as a small, decent propane grill and several tanks (one tank lasts me all summer..and I grill alot!). Decent cache of kerosene. Worse comes to worse, I´ll resort to eating Doves. I have enough birds around me to survive.
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>>>what about my toilet paper.i have 2 cases of tp.

Depends how many wipers you have. s226

And what you are feeding them. crisco

And, if you are serious about this and not yanking my chain, if, in the unlikely event, the shit hits the fan, and recovery seems unlikely, TP will be better than GOLD, my friend.

nawty





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